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Photo allegedly showing Ruby in front of Depository minutes after assassination
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m***@gmail.com
2014-09-22 03:15:47 UTC
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Discuss...is it not what it seems...or what?
Anthony Marsh
2014-09-22 17:01:38 UTC
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Discuss...is it not what it seems...or what?
No, it is not Ruby.
Marcus Hanson
2014-09-22 18:42:10 UTC
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Discuss...is it not what it seems...or what?
Post the photo.
I could do it,but I won't.
Presumably,it's Willis 8,is it?

After you post the photo,I will explain why it is probably not Ruby.
claviger
2014-09-23 01:56:20 UTC
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Where is the photo? Did you forget the link?
David Von Pein
2014-09-23 03:46:39 UTC
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Clearly NOT Ruby....

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Anthony Marsh
2014-09-23 15:27:07 UTC
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Clearly NOT Ruby....
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-3Z67Df4IwNw/UobQptttEfI/AAAAAAAAwwQ/ci2pc1jBI88/s4000/TSBD-Entrance-11-22-63.jpg
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-zr6PSzw9a18/TZOVsqGxNvI/AAAAAAAATlo/BXYHavriq-0/s4000/TSBD--11-22-63.jpg
Massive deflection. No one is claiming that guy in the sunglasses is
Jack Ruby. I think they mean Willis 8. It started with Mark Lane.

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Is it the same guy?
Too bald.
m***@gmail.com
2014-09-23 17:07:45 UTC
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Wish i had the actual photo...Mark Lane referred to it in one of those old
televised debates. ''Ruby'' was standing off to the side, wearing a hat i
think.
Anthony Marsh
2014-09-23 23:19:56 UTC
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Post by m***@gmail.com
Wish i had the actual photo...Mark Lane referred to it in one of those old
televised debates. ''Ruby'' was standing off to the side, wearing a hat i
think.
No, you are confused. Mark Lane was complaining about the way the WC
cropped the man out of the frame in Willis 8.
But it isn't Ruby. How come you don't have the photo already?
Do they ban Google in your country?

You have to go to a conspiracy Web site because the WC defenders won't
show it to you:

http://www.the-puzzle-palace.com/willis08.jpg
David Von Pein
2014-09-24 02:17:41 UTC
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ANTHONY MARSH SAID:

You have to go to a conspiracy Web site because the WC defenders won't
show it to you.


DAVID VON PEIN SAID:

Bull.

I've had that photo on my Photo Gallery site for years [one-third of the
way down the page linked below; it'll take a little while to load,
however], right along with the other 2 pics I posted earlier which show
the SAME MAN in sunglasses. None of the three pictures is of Ruby:

http://kennedy-photos.blogspot.com/2013/02/page-1.html
Mark Florio
2014-09-25 05:01:27 UTC
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Post by Anthony Marsh
You have to go to a conspiracy Web site because the WC defenders won't
show it to you.
Bull.
I've had that photo on my Photo Gallery site for years [one-third of the
way down the page linked below; it'll take a little while to load,
however], right along with the other 2 pics I posted earlier which show
http://kennedy-photos.blogspot.com/2013/02/page-1.html
Richard Trask's PICTURES OF THE PAIN shows the picture and points out the
Ruby look-alike on page 177, and has since it was first published in 1994.
Mark Florio.
Anthony Marsh
2014-09-25 05:07:02 UTC
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Post by Anthony Marsh
You have to go to a conspiracy Web site because the WC defenders won't
show it to you.
Bull.
I've had that photo on my Photo Gallery site for years [one-third of the
way down the page linked below; it'll take a little while to load,
however], right along with the other 2 pics I posted earlier which show
http://kennedy-photos.blogspot.com/2013/02/page-1.html
I didn't see you post it here.
And with the bizarre long filenames your Web site uses I doubt that
people would know it is Willis 8, rather than the cropped WC exhibit.
Mark Florio
2014-09-26 01:41:33 UTC
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Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by Anthony Marsh
You have to go to a conspiracy Web site because the WC defenders won't
show it to you.
Bull.
I've had that photo on my Photo Gallery site for years [one-third of the
way down the page linked below; it'll take a little while to load,
however], right along with the other 2 pics I posted earlier which show
http://kennedy-photos.blogspot.com/2013/02/page-1.html
I didn't see you post it here.
And with the bizarre long filenames your Web site uses I doubt that
people would know it is Willis 8, rather than the cropped WC exhibit.
Go to his website, it's there, as it is in PICTURES OF THE PAIN. Do I
detect a sense of sour grapes and jealousy in your posts towards the time
and work DVP puts into his website? Mark Florio.
Anthony Marsh
2014-09-26 21:39:16 UTC
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Post by Mark Florio
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by Anthony Marsh
You have to go to a conspiracy Web site because the WC defenders won't
show it to you.
Bull.
I've had that photo on my Photo Gallery site for years [one-third of the
way down the page linked below; it'll take a little while to load,
however], right along with the other 2 pics I posted earlier which show
http://kennedy-photos.blogspot.com/2013/02/page-1.html
I didn't see you post it here.
And with the bizarre long filenames your Web site uses I doubt that
people would know it is Willis 8, rather than the cropped WC exhibit.
Go to his website, it's there, as it is in PICTURES OF THE PAIN. Do I
detect a sense of sour grapes and jealousy in your posts towards the time
and work DVP puts into his website? Mark Florio.
The point is that he should have posted it here when the question came up.
claviger
2014-09-25 05:06:15 UTC
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Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by m***@gmail.com
Wish i had the actual photo...Mark Lane referred to it in one of those old
televised debates. ''Ruby'' was standing off to the side, wearing a hat i
think.
No, you are confused. Mark Lane was complaining about the way the WC
cropped the man out of the frame in Willis 8.
But it isn't Ruby. How come you don't have the photo already?
Do they ban Google in your country?
You have to go to a conspiracy Web site because the WC defenders won't
http://www.the-puzzle-palace.com/willis08.jpg
It sure looks like Ruby and why not? He worked with in walking distance
of Dealey Plaza. Only thing is he's not at PMH to plant a bullet on the
stretcher. However, a reporter who knew Ruby said he was outside the
hospital.
Anthony Marsh
2014-09-25 23:13:50 UTC
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Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by m***@gmail.com
Wish i had the actual photo...Mark Lane referred to it in one of those old
televised debates. ''Ruby'' was standing off to the side, wearing a hat i
think.
No, you are confused. Mark Lane was complaining about the way the WC
cropped the man out of the frame in Willis 8.
But it isn't Ruby. How come you don't have the photo already?
Do they ban Google in your country?
You have to go to a conspiracy Web site because the WC defenders won't
http://www.the-puzzle-palace.com/willis08.jpg
It sure looks like Ruby and why not? He worked with in walking distance
of Dealey Plaza. Only thing is he's not at PMH to plant a bullet on the
stretcher. However, a reporter who knew Ruby said he was outside the
hospital.
Too bald.
mainframetech
2014-09-27 02:02:57 UTC
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Post by claviger
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by m***@gmail.com
Wish i had the actual photo...Mark Lane referred to it in one of those old
televised debates. ''Ruby'' was standing off to the side, wearing a hat i
think.
No, you are confused. Mark Lane was complaining about the way the WC
cropped the man out of the frame in Willis 8.
But it isn't Ruby. How come you don't have the photo already?
Do they ban Google in your country?
You have to go to a conspiracy Web site because the WC defenders won't
http://www.the-puzzle-palace.com/willis08.jpg
It sure looks like Ruby and why not? He worked with in walking distance
of Dealey Plaza. Only thing is he's not at PMH to plant a bullet on the
stretcher. However, a reporter who knew Ruby said he was outside the
hospital.
Let's keep the record straight. Ruby was INSIDE the hospital shortly
after the murder. Here's the video with a reporter narrating:



Chris
Mark Florio
2014-09-27 02:54:25 UTC
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Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by m***@gmail.com
Wish i had the actual photo...Mark Lane referred to it in one of those old
televised debates. ''Ruby'' was standing off to the side, wearing a hat i
think.
No, you are confused. Mark Lane was complaining about the way the WC
cropped the man out of the frame in Willis 8.
But it isn't Ruby. How come you don't have the photo already?
Do they ban Google in your country?
You have to go to a conspiracy Web site because the WC defenders won't
http://www.the-puzzle-palace.com/willis08.jpg
This is another example of when your paranoia sends you off the
thoughtless end of the pier. The reason serious people don't see the need
to publish the picture is because it's been a proven false alarm. I've
previously cited page 177 of PICTURES OF THE PAIN for the picture that
started all this. Look at page 178 that shows a clearer shot of the
look-alike and it's obviously not Ruby. Why would we want to conceal
something that's so easily shown to be false? You might say we're trying
to save CTs from their own embarrassment. Mark Florio.
Anthony Marsh
2014-09-28 03:22:05 UTC
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Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by m***@gmail.com
Wish i had the actual photo...Mark Lane referred to it in one of those old
televised debates. ''Ruby'' was standing off to the side, wearing a hat i
think.
No, you are confused. Mark Lane was complaining about the way the WC
cropped the man out of the frame in Willis 8.
But it isn't Ruby. How come you don't have the photo already?
Do they ban Google in your country?
You have to go to a conspiracy Web site because the WC defenders won't
http://www.the-puzzle-palace.com/willis08.jpg
This is another example of when your paranoia sends you off the
thoughtless end of the pier. The reason serious people don't see the need
to publish the picture is because it's been a proven false alarm. I've
previously cited page 177 of PICTURES OF THE PAIN for the picture that
started all this. Look at page 178 that shows a clearer shot of the
look-alike and it's obviously not Ruby. Why would we want to conceal
something that's so easily shown to be false? You might say we're trying
to save CTs from their own embarrassment. Mark Florio.
Why do you always have to make false charges? I've always said it wasn't
Ruby. YOU are the one who refused to upload that page from Pictures of
the Pain.

OSWALD COBBLEPOT
2014-09-24 00:05:58 UTC
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Post by m***@gmail.com
Wish i had the actual photo...Mark Lane referred to it in one of those old
televised debates. ''Ruby'' was standing off to the side, wearing a hat i
think.
It can't be Ruby. Ruby was at Parkland planting CE 399.
Ralph Cinque
2014-09-26 00:28:37 UTC
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Ruby looking at Oswald in the doorway

http://tinypic.com/r/2ptyvt5/8
Jason Burke
2014-09-26 15:41:44 UTC
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Post by Ralph Cinque
Ruby looking at Oswald in the doorway
http://tinypic.com/r/2ptyvt5/8
O-fer-two on that one, Ralph.
t***@gmail.com
2014-09-25 05:31:18 UTC
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Post by m***@gmail.com
Discuss...is it not what it seems...or what?
I think this matter is discussed in the book Pictures Of The Pain by
Richard B Trask.

You should get yourself a copy if you don't have a copy. It is regarded as
probably the best book on the photography of the assassination.

Helpful Regards,

Tim Brennan
Sydney, Australia
*Newsgroup(s) Commentator*

*...NOT ONE of the three experts was able to strike the head or the
neck of the target EVEN ONCE.* (Emphasis added).
Mark Lane, Rush to Judgment, page 129, footnoted as: XVII 261-262.

And yet here IS WC XVII 261-262, showing hits to the head...
http://www.history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh17/html/WH_Vol17_0144a.htm

X marks the spot where Mark Lane lied!
mainframetech
2014-09-27 00:35:55 UTC
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Discuss...is it not what it seems...or what?
The possibility exists that Jack Ruby was on the far side of the triple
underpass just after the shooting. A Policeman was driving in the area
and saw what he thought was Jack Ruby (he knew ruby), and he had thrown
something into his car and drove off. The policeman followed him for a
ways and got his license number. He called the number in to the
detectives on the DPD, and they didn't seem to be very interested.

Here's Tilson speaking of his experience:



McAdams has a couple 'hit' pieces in his files, and they can be viewed
and the reader make their own judgement as to the veracity of Tilson, and
the authors of the pieces.

Chris
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