Discussion:
What Buddy Walthers Found
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Russ Burr
2008-06-28 21:44:44 UTC
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From Buddy Walthers Sheriff's REport

"Upon searching this house we found stacks of hand bills concerning
"Cuba for Freedom" advertising, seeking publicity and support for Cuba.
Also found was a set of metal file cabinets containing records that
appeared to be names and activities of Cuban sympathizers. All of this
evidence was confiscated and turned over to Captain Fritz of the Dallas
Police Department and Secret Service Officers at the City Hall."

These were nothing more than Oswald's belongings.

And not the Paine's
tomnln
2008-06-29 00:59:07 UTC
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Post by Russ Burr
From Buddy Walthers Sheriff's REport
"Upon searching this house we found stacks of hand bills concerning "Cuba
for Freedom" advertising, seeking publicity and support for Cuba. Also
found was a set of metal file cabinets containing records that appeared to
be names and activities of Cuban sympathizers. All of this evidence was
confiscated and turned over to Captain Fritz of the Dallas Police
Department and Secret Service Officers at the City Hall."
These were nothing more than Oswald's belongings.
And not the Paine's
Buddy Walthers also reported Oswald visiting a house full of Anti-Castro
Cubans on Harlendale Avenue REGULARLY.

SEE item 12>>> http://whokilledjfk.net/catch_of_the_day.htm
Russ Burr
2008-06-29 16:59:58 UTC
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Post by tomnln
Post by Russ Burr
From Buddy Walthers Sheriff's REport
"Upon searching this house we found stacks of hand bills concerning
"Cuba for Freedom" advertising, seeking publicity and support for
Cuba. Also found was a set of metal file cabinets containing records
that appeared to be names and activities of Cuban sympathizers. All of
this evidence was confiscated and turned over to Captain Fritz of the
Dallas Police Department and Secret Service Officers at the City Hall."
These were nothing more than Oswald's belongings.
And not the Paine's
Buddy Walthers also reported Oswald visiting a house full of Anti-Castro
Cubans on Harlendale Avenue REGULARLY.
That's false. Never happened.
Post by tomnln
SEE item 12>>> http://whokilledjfk.net/catch_of_the_day.htm
tomnln
2008-06-30 03:45:58 UTC
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Post by Russ Burr
Post by tomnln
Post by Russ Burr
From Buddy Walthers Sheriff's REport
"Upon searching this house we found stacks of hand bills concerning
"Cuba for Freedom" advertising, seeking publicity and support for Cuba.
Also found was a set of metal file cabinets containing records that
appeared to be names and activities of Cuban sympathizers. All of this
evidence was confiscated and turned over to Captain Fritz of the Dallas
Police Department and Secret Service Officers at the City Hall."
These were nothing more than Oswald's belongings.
And not the Paine's
Buddy Walthers also reported Oswald visiting a house full of Anti-Castro
Cubans on Harlendale Avenue REGULARLY.
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Russ Burr wrote;
Post by Russ Burr
That's false. Never happened.
I write;

SEE item 12>>> http://whokilledjfk.net/catch_of_the_day.htm

That Report came from the 26 volumes that you have NOT read Russ.

You're at quite a Disadvantage.
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Russ Burr
2008-06-29 17:00:14 UTC
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Post by tomnln
Post by Russ Burr
From Buddy Walthers Sheriff's REport
"Upon searching this house we found stacks of hand bills concerning
"Cuba for Freedom" advertising, seeking publicity and support for
Cuba. Also found was a set of metal file cabinets containing records
that appeared to be names and activities of Cuban sympathizers. All of
this evidence was confiscated and turned over to Captain Fritz of the
Dallas Police Department and Secret Service Officers at the City Hall."
These were nothing more than Oswald's belongings.
And not the Paine's
Buddy Walthers also reported Oswald visiting a house full of Anti-Castro
Cubans on Harlendale Avenue REGULARLY.
SEE item 12>>> http://whokilledjfk.net/catch_of_the_day.htm
This is what the convincing document says to prove that Oswald was
hanging out with Anti-Castro Cubans in the weeks before the
assassination: "some Cubans had been having meetings on the weekends and
were possibly connected with the "Freedom for Cuba Party" of which
Oswald was a member." (WOW)

That's from the Sheriff Department, Supplementary Investigation Report
dated 11/23/63 and 11/26/63.

So Walthers never said he was attending this meeting but it's members
were possibly connected to a group that Oswald never belonged to. He was
a member of the "Hands of Cuba Committee".

Perhaps you should read what you but own your web site.

Russ
Russ Burr
2008-06-29 18:39:27 UTC
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Post by Russ Burr
Post by tomnln
Post by Russ Burr
From Buddy Walthers Sheriff's REport
"Upon searching this house we found stacks of hand bills concerning
"Cuba for Freedom" advertising, seeking publicity and support for
Cuba. Also found was a set of metal file cabinets containing records
that appeared to be names and activities of Cuban sympathizers. All
of this evidence was confiscated and turned over to Captain Fritz of
the Dallas Police Department and Secret Service Officers at the City
Hall."
These were nothing more than Oswald's belongings.
And not the Paine's
Buddy Walthers also reported Oswald visiting a house full of
Anti-Castro Cubans on Harlendale Avenue REGULARLY.
SEE item 12>>> http://whokilledjfk.net/catch_of_the_day.htm
This is what the convincing document says to prove that Oswald was
hanging out with Anti-Castro Cubans in the weeks before the
assassination: "some Cubans had been having meetings on the weekends and
were possibly connected with the "Freedom for Cuba Party" of which
Oswald was a member." (WOW)
That's from the Sheriff Department, Supplementary Investigation Report
dated 11/23/63 and 11/26/63.
So Walthers never said he was attending this meeting but it's members
were possibly connected to a group that Oswald never belonged to. He was
a member of the "Hands of Cuba Committee".
It was Fair Play for Cuba Committee. Sorry for the mistake.

Russ
Post by Russ Burr
Perhaps you should read what you but own your web site.
Russ
tomnln
2008-06-30 03:49:03 UTC
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Post by Russ Burr
Post by Russ Burr
Post by tomnln
Post by Russ Burr
From Buddy Walthers Sheriff's REport
"Upon searching this house we found stacks of hand bills concerning
"Cuba for Freedom" advertising, seeking publicity and support for Cuba.
Also found was a set of metal file cabinets containing records that
appeared to be names and activities of Cuban sympathizers. All of this
evidence was confiscated and turned over to Captain Fritz of the Dallas
Police Department and Secret Service Officers at the City Hall."
These were nothing more than Oswald's belongings.
And not the Paine's
Buddy Walthers also reported Oswald visiting a house full of Anti-Castro
Cubans on Harlendale Avenue REGULARLY.
SEE item 12>>> http://whokilledjfk.net/catch_of_the_day.htm
This is what the convincing document says to prove that Oswald was
hanging out with Anti-Castro Cubans in the weeks before the
assassination: "some Cubans had been having meetings on the weekends and
were possibly connected with the "Freedom for Cuba Party" of which Oswald
was a member." (WOW)
That's from the Sheriff Department, Supplementary Investigation Report
dated 11/23/63 and 11/26/63.
So Walthers never said he was attending this meeting but it's members
were possibly connected to a group that Oswald never belonged to. He was
a member of the "Hands of Cuba Committee".
It was Fair Play for Cuba Committee. Sorry for the mistake.
Russ
Post by Russ Burr
Perhaps you should read what you but own your web site.
Russ
Buddy Walthers Report does NOT say "Fair Play for Cuba Committee"

You "messed up" Again.

http://whokilledjfk.net/catch_of_the_day.htm

Read it & WEEP.
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t***@gmail.com
2008-06-30 16:56:07 UTC
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Hi tomnln,

Say, it has already been pointed out to you, a number of months ago,
that Buddy Walthers referred to the yellow and black pamphlets he
found in the Paine garage as *Freedom For Cuba Party* pamphlets.

It's quite clear he made the same mistake about the name of the *Fair
Play for Cuba Committee* (FPCC) when he called it the *Freedom For
Cuba Party* in his statement about Harlendale, tomnln.

You do know that Oswald was a card carrying member of the *Fair Play
for Cuba Committee*, don't you tomnln?

He distributed yellow and black pamphlets, calling for a *hands off
Cuba*, on behalf of the FPCC, in New Orleans, tomnln.

Got any evidence, apart from Walthers, that Oswald was EVER a member
of an organisation called *Freedom For Cuba Party* tomnln?

Walthers made an obvious mistake, tomnln. If you can't work that out
then I wouldn't be going around lecturing anyone about *evidence/
testimony* in *the 26 volumes* if I were you, tomnln.

That would be a very unwise idea, tomnln. A very unwise idea indeed...

Regards,

Tim Brennan
Sydney, Australia
*Newsgroup(s) Commentator*
Post by tomnln
Post by Russ Burr
Post by Russ Burr
Post by tomnln
Post by Russ Burr
From Buddy Walthers Sheriff's REport
"Upon searching this house we found stacks of hand bills concerning
"Cuba for Freedom" advertising, seeking publicity and support for Cuba.
Also found was a set of metal file cabinets containing records that
appeared to be names and activities of Cuban sympathizers. All of this
evidence was confiscated and turned over to Captain Fritz of the Dallas
Police Department and Secret Service Officers at the City Hall."
These were nothing more than Oswald's belongings.
And not the Paine's
Buddy Walthers also reported Oswald visiting a house full of Anti-Castro
Cubans on Harlendale Avenue REGULARLY.
SEE item 12>>>  http://whokilledjfk.net/catch_of_the_day.htm
This is what the convincing document says to prove that Oswald was
hanging out with Anti-Castro Cubans in the weeks before the
assassination: "some Cubans had been having meetings on the weekends and
were possibly connected with the "Freedom for Cuba Party" of which Oswald
was a member." (WOW)
That's from the Sheriff Department, Supplementary Investigation Report
dated 11/23/63 and 11/26/63.
So Walthers never said he was attending this meeting but it's members
were possibly connected to a group that Oswald never belonged to. He was
a member of the "Hands of Cuba Committee".
It was Fair Play for Cuba Committee. Sorry for the mistake.
Russ
Post by Russ Burr
Perhaps you should read what you but own your web site.
Russ
Buddy Walthers Report does NOT say "Fair Play for Cuba Committee"
You "messed up" Again.
http://whokilledjfk.net/catch_of_the_day.htm
Read it & WEEP.
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tomnln
2008-06-30 21:08:43 UTC
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<***@gmail.com> wrote in message news:f7cc4a34-5515-4e9f-bd45-***@a32g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
TOP POST

Hi tomnln,

Say, it has already been pointed out to you, a number of months ago, that
Buddy Walthers referred to the yellow and black pamphlets he found in the
Paine garage as *Freedom For Cuba Party* pamphlets.

It's quite clear he made the same mistake about the name of the *Fair Play
for Cuba Committee* (FPCC) when he called it the *Freedom For Cuba Party*
in his statement about Harlendale, tomnln.

You do know that Oswald was a card carrying member of the *Fair Play for
Cuba Committee*, don't you tomnln?

He distributed yellow and black pamphlets, calling for a *hands off Cuba*,
on behalf of the FPCC, in New Orleans, tomnln.

Got any evidence, apart from Walthers, that Oswald was EVER a member of an
organisation called *Freedom For Cuba Party* tomnln?

Walthers made an obvious mistake, tomnln. If you can't work that out then
I wouldn't be going around lecturing anyone about *evidence/ testimony* in
*the 26 volumes* if I were you, tomnln.

That would be a very unwise idea, tomnln. A very unwise idea indeed...

Regards,

Tim Brennan
Sydney, Australia
*Newsgroup(s) Commentator*



Do you Deny that Oswald was seen at the Harlendale Avenue address Timmy?

Do you Deny that it was "ANTI-CASTRO CUBANS" that MET THERE?
Post by tomnln
Post by Russ Burr
Post by Russ Burr
Post by tomnln
Post by Russ Burr
From Buddy Walthers Sheriff's REport
"Upon searching this house we found stacks of hand bills concerning
"Cuba for Freedom" advertising, seeking publicity and support for Cuba.
Also found was a set of metal file cabinets containing records that
appeared to be names and activities of Cuban sympathizers. All of this
evidence was confiscated and turned over to Captain Fritz of the Dallas
Police Department and Secret Service Officers at the City Hall."
These were nothing more than Oswald's belongings.
And not the Paine's
Buddy Walthers also reported Oswald visiting a house full of Anti-Castro
Cubans on Harlendale Avenue REGULARLY.
SEE item 12>>> http://whokilledjfk.net/catch_of_the_day.htm
This is what the convincing document says to prove that Oswald was
hanging out with Anti-Castro Cubans in the weeks before the
assassination: "some Cubans had been having meetings on the weekends and
were possibly connected with the "Freedom for Cuba Party" of which Oswald
was a member." (WOW)
That's from the Sheriff Department, Supplementary Investigation Report
dated 11/23/63 and 11/26/63.
So Walthers never said he was attending this meeting but it's members
were possibly connected to a group that Oswald never belonged to. He was
a member of the "Hands of Cuba Committee".
It was Fair Play for Cuba Committee. Sorry for the mistake.
Russ
Post by Russ Burr
Perhaps you should read what you but own your web site.
Russ
Buddy Walthers Report does NOT say "Fair Play for Cuba Committee"
You "messed up" Again.
http://whokilledjfk.net/catch_of_the_day.htm
Read it & WEEP.
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yeuhd
2008-07-01 02:51:31 UTC
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Post by tomnln
Do you Deny that Oswald was seen at the Harlendale Avenue address Timmy?
By whom? Who was Buddy Walthers's source? How can the credibility of
the report be weighed without knowing the source of the report?
tomnln
2008-07-01 05:01:13 UTC
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Post by tomnln
Do you Deny that Oswald was seen at the Harlendale Avenue address Timmy?
By whom? Who was Buddy Walthers's source? How can the credibility of
the report be weighed without knowing the source of the report?





I write;

Your source came Years Later from someone selling a book.

WHY didn't the Warren Commission discover a source during it's Hearings?

Just another example of Shoddy Investigation.

Even a TEAM of you can't justify your own evidence/testimony.
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yeuhd
2008-07-01 16:30:42 UTC
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Post by tomnln
Just another example of Shoddy Investigation.
Even a TEAM of you can't justify your own evidence/testimony.
But the Buddy Walther report is *your* evidence. Not mine! And you
still haven't answered the question: who was the Walthers's informant?
You repeatedly quote Walthers's report, but you never address the
question of who was the informant. Obviously, that's an important
question, and must be answered before the credibility of the Walthers
report can be assessed. So — who was the informant?
tomnln
2008-07-01 22:32:35 UTC
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Post by tomnln
Just another example of Shoddy Investigation.
Even a TEAM of you can't justify your own evidence/testimony.
But the Buddy Walther report is *your* evidence. Not mine! And you
still haven't answered the question: who was the Walthers's informant?
You repeatedly quote Walthers's report, but you never address the
question of who was the informant. Obviously, that's an important
question, and must be answered before the credibility of the Walthers
report can be assessed. So — who was the informant?
*******************



I write;

Boy! Talk about Ass-Backwards! ! !

The Walther Report is from the Decker Exhibit in Volume XIX page 534.

That makes it YOUR Exhibit, NOT Mine!

As for who the informant was;
Are you pointing out that the Warrten Commission did a "Shoddy/Incomplete"
Investigation?

No wonder you wanna RUN from it.

You ARE aware that the Harlendale house was occupied by "Anti-Castro Cubans"
aren't you?
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yeuhd
2008-07-02 01:55:38 UTC
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Post by tomnln
The Walther Report is from the Decker Exhibit in Volume XIX page 534.
That makes it YOUR Exhibit, NOT Mine!
No, it's your exhibit. You're the one who keeps waving it. I think it's
worthless as evidence, because it's unsourced and unverified — the worst
kind of hearsay. (Walthers later told Eric Tagg his source was his
mother-in-law.) You're the one in thrall of "official sources", not me.
Haven't you learned by now that so-called "official sources" can be false,
incomplete, or misleading, and "unofficial" sources can be relevant,
accurate, and very helpful?

To give you an example: the Warren Commission took depositions and
testimony from dozens of Dealey Plaza eyewitnesses. The statements of the
eyewitnesses are often contradictory and incompatible with other
eyewitnesses on such matters as the number of shots, the origins of the
shots, which shots hit and which missed, where the limousine was, etc. It
is impossible for all to be true; many of them must be false. Yet all are
"official sources".

To give you another example: The microanalysis of the Zapruder film that
ITEK conducted in 1975 was much more detailed and accurate than any
analysis that the Warren Commission undertook. The ITEK report is an
"unofficial" source — and it is also detailed, accurate, and useful.

So you can talk about "I only use official sources" until the cows come
home, but no one else here agrees with your "official good"/"unofficial
bad" take on evidence.
Post by tomnln
As for who the informant was;
Are you pointing out that the Warrten Commission did a "Shoddy/Incomplete"
Investigation?
The Harlendale residence *was* investigated by the FBI; nothing was found
to confirm that Oswald had ever been there.

But for the sake of argument, let's assume that Oswald did visit a home in
Dallas where an organization of anti-Castro Cubans gathered. So what?
Oswald is known to have tried to infiltrate another anti- Castro Cuban
organization in New Orleans. He also attended an "ultra- right" speech by
General Edwin Walker on October 23, 1963 (several months after Oswald
tried to kill Walker), and dutifully reported on it to Arnold Johnson of
the Communist Party, U.S.A.

Still waiting to hear from you who Walthers's source was, and why we
should believe that source.
tomnln
2008-07-02 03:17:05 UTC
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Post by tomnln
The Walther Report is from the Decker Exhibit in Volume XIX page 534.
That makes it YOUR Exhibit, NOT Mine!
No, it's your exhibit. You're the one who keeps waving it. I think it's
worthless as evidence, because it's unsourced and unverified — the worst
kind of hearsay. (Walthers later told Eric Tagg his source was his
mother-in-law.) You're the one in thrall of "official sources", not me.
Haven't you learned by now that so-called "official sources" can be false,
incomplete, or misleading, and "unofficial" sources can be relevant,
accurate, and very helpful?


yeuhd is on my side after all;

He's telling us that Law Enforcement is NOT to be Trusted.

He even uses an unofficial source who's trying to sell a book to support
his view.

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To give you an example: the Warren Commission took depositions and
testimony from dozens of Dealey Plaza eyewitnesses. The statements of the
eyewitnesses are often contradictory and incompatible with other
eyewitnesses on such matters as the number of shots, the origins of the
shots, which shots hit and which missed, where the limousine was, etc. It
is impossible for all to be true; many of them must be false. Yet all are
"official sources".

To give you another example: The microanalysis of the Zapruder film that
ITEK conducted in 1975 was much more detailed and accurate than any
analysis that the Warren Commission undertook. The ITEK report is an
"unofficial" source — and it is also detailed, accurate, and useful.

So you can talk about "I only use official sources" until the cows come
home, but no one else here agrees with your "official good"/"unofficial
bad" take on evidence.
Post by tomnln
As for who the informant was;
Are you pointing out that the Warrten Commission did a "Shoddy/Incomplete"
Investigation?
The Harlendale residence *was* investigated by the FBI; nothing was found
to confirm that Oswald had ever been there.

But for the sake of argument, let's assume that Oswald did visit a home in
Dallas where an organization of anti-Castro Cubans gathered. So what?
Oswald is known to have tried to infiltrate another anti- Castro Cuban
organization in New Orleans. He also attended an "ultra- right" speech by
General Edwin Walker on October 23, 1963 (several months after Oswald
tried to kill Walker), and dutifully reported on it to Arnold Johnson of
the Communist Party, U.S.A.

Still waiting to hear from you who Walthers's source was, and why we
should believe that source.
Russ Burr
2008-07-02 01:57:35 UTC
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Post by yeuhd
Post by tomnln
Just another example of Shoddy Investigation.
Even a TEAM of you can't justify your own evidence/testimony.
But the Buddy Walther report is *your* evidence. Not mine! And you
still haven't answered the question: who was the Walthers's informant?
You repeatedly quote Walthers's report, but you never address the
question of who was the informant. Obviously, that's an important
question, and must be answered before the credibility of the Walthers
report can be assessed. So — who was the informant?
*******************
I write;
Boy! Talk about Ass-Backwards! ! !
The Walther Report is from the Decker Exhibit in Volume XIX page 534.
That makes it YOUR Exhibit, NOT Mine!
As for who the informant was;
Are you pointing out that the Warrten Commission did a
"Shoddy/Incomplete" Investigation?
No wonder you wanna RUN from it.
You ARE aware that the Harlendale house was occupied by "Anti-Castro
Cubans" aren't you?
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But not Oswald's.
tomnln
2008-07-02 03:49:36 UTC
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Post by Russ Burr
Post by yeuhd
Post by tomnln
Just another example of Shoddy Investigation.
Even a TEAM of you can't justify your own evidence/testimony.
But the Buddy Walther report is *your* evidence. Not mine! And you
still haven't answered the question: who was the Walthers's informant?
You repeatedly quote Walthers's report, but you never address the
question of who was the informant. Obviously, that's an important
question, and must be answered before the credibility of the Walthers
report can be assessed. So — who was the informant?
*******************
I write;
Boy! Talk about Ass-Backwards! ! !
The Walther Report is from the Decker Exhibit in Volume XIX page 534.
That makes it YOUR Exhibit, NOT Mine!
As for who the informant was;
Are you pointing out that the Warrten Commission did a
"Shoddy/Incomplete" Investigation?
No wonder you wanna RUN from it.
You ARE aware that the Harlendale house was occupied by "Anti-Castro
Cubans" aren't you?
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Russ Burr wrote;
Post by Russ Burr
But not Oswald's.
Pretty Easy to "Disagree" WITH official records you haven't even read Russ.

SEE>>> http://whokilledjfk.net/catch_of_the_day.htm

I put it right on the top of the page for you.
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tomnln
2008-07-02 19:41:42 UTC
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Where's your UNREAD comeback Russ???
Post by Russ Burr
Post by yeuhd
Post by tomnln
Just another example of Shoddy Investigation.
Even a TEAM of you can't justify your own evidence/testimony.
But the Buddy Walther report is *your* evidence. Not mine! And you
still haven't answered the question: who was the Walthers's informant?
You repeatedly quote Walthers's report, but you never address the
question of who was the informant. Obviously, that's an important
question, and must be answered before the credibility of the Walthers
report can be assessed. So — who was the informant?
*******************
I write;
Boy! Talk about Ass-Backwards! ! !
The Walther Report is from the Decker Exhibit in Volume XIX page 534.
That makes it YOUR Exhibit, NOT Mine!
As for who the informant was;
Are you pointing out that the Warrten Commission did a
"Shoddy/Incomplete" Investigation?
No wonder you wanna RUN from it.
You ARE aware that the Harlendale house was occupied by "Anti-Castro
Cubans" aren't you?
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Russ Burr wrote;
Post by Russ Burr
But not Oswald's.
Pretty Easy to "Disagree" WITH official records you haven't even read Russ.

SEE>>> http://whokilledjfk.net/catch_of_the_day.htm

I put it right on the top of the page for you.
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yeuhd
2008-07-02 00:02:54 UTC
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Post by tomnln
WHY didn't the Warren Commission discover a source during it's Hearings?
Just another example of Shoddy Investigation.
Ah, but you're trying to have it both ways. On the one hand, you say
that the allegation needed further investigation, and that such lack
of investigation would be "shoddy".

But on the other hand, you hold up that shoddily uninvestigated,
unsourced allegation as established fact!

Peekaboo, we see you.
t***@gmail.com
2008-07-01 17:22:41 UTC
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Hi tomnln,
Post by t***@gmail.com
TOP POST
Hi tomnln,
Say, it has already been pointed out to you, a number of months ago, that
Buddy Walthers referred to the yellow and black pamphlets he found in the
Paine garage as *Freedom For Cuba Party* pamphlets.
It's quite clear he made the same mistake about the name of the *Fair Play
for Cuba Committee* (FPCC) when he called it the *Freedom For Cuba Party*
in his statement about Harlendale, tomnln.
You do know that Oswald was a card carrying member of the *Fair Play for
Cuba Committee*, don't you tomnln?
He distributed yellow and black pamphlets, calling for a *hands off Cuba*,
on behalf of the FPCC, in New Orleans, tomnln.
Got any evidence, apart from Walthers, that Oswald was EVER a member of an
organisation called *Freedom For Cuba Party* tomnln?
Walthers made an obvious mistake, tomnln. If you can't work that out then
I wouldn't be going around lecturing anyone about *evidence/ testimony* in
*the 26 volumes* if I were you, tomnln.
That would be a very unwise idea, tomnln. A very unwise idea indeed...
Regards,
Tim Brennan
Sydney, Australia
*Newsgroup(s) Commentator*
Do you Deny that Oswald was seen at the Harlendale Avenue address Timmy?
Well according to this FBI Airtel of 12/22/75 that I am helpfully
posting for the third time this evening he never was, tomnln:

QUOTE ON:

A review of Dallas file 134-332 reflects that former DL 282-S, whose
identity is known to the Bureau (Bufile 105-131,209), was in a top
leadership position in "ALPHA 66" at Dallas, Texas, in 1963 and 1964,
and he reported to the Dallas Office during 1964 that meetings of this
group were held during 1963 at the residence of one JORGE SALAZAR,
3126 Harlendale Street, Dallas, Texas. According to this source, as
well as other informants familiar with Cuban matters during the period
1963-1964, LEE HARVEY OSWALD was not known to have ever associated
with, or been known to members of "ALPHA 66" and there is no
information that he ever visited 3126 Harlendale Street, Dallas,
Texas, as reported by Deputy Sheriff WALTHERS.

QUOTE OFF
Post by t***@gmail.com
Do you Deny that it was "ANTI-CASTRO CUBANS" that MET THERE?
Oh no, tomnln, I don't deny that. But FBI source DL 282-S, an FBI
source within Alpha 66, says Oswald was never there, tomnln, according
to the above.

That is OFFICIAL evidence/testimony, tomnln.

Now, tomnln, a question for you:

Do you Deny that when Buddy Walthers said "FREEDOM FOR CUBA PARTY" he
actually meant "FAIR PLAY FOR CUBA COMMITTEE" tomnln?

I think it would be a very unsound idea if you did deny that, tomnln.

Very unsound indeed.

Regards,

Tim Brennan
Sydney, Australia
*Newsgroup(s) Commentator*
Post by t***@gmail.com
Post by tomnln
Post by Russ Burr
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Post by tomnln
Post by Russ Burr
From Buddy Walthers Sheriff's REport
"Upon searching this house we found stacks of hand bills concerning
"Cuba for Freedom" advertising, seeking publicity and support for Cuba.
Also found was a set of metal file cabinets containing records that
appeared to be names and activities of Cuban sympathizers. All of this
evidence was confiscated and turned over to Captain Fritz of the Dallas
Police Department and Secret Service Officers at the City Hall."
These were nothing more than Oswald's belongings.
And not the Paine's
Buddy Walthers also reported Oswald visiting a house full of Anti-Castro
Cubans on Harlendale Avenue REGULARLY.
SEE item 12>>>http://whokilledjfk.net/catch_of_the_day.htm
This is what the convincing document says to prove that Oswald was
hanging out with Anti-Castro Cubans in the weeks before the
assassination: "some Cubans had been having meetings on the weekends and
were possibly connected with the "Freedom for Cuba Party" of which Oswald
was a member." (WOW)
That's from the Sheriff Department, Supplementary Investigation Report
dated 11/23/63 and 11/26/63.
So Walthers never said he was attending this meeting but it's members
were possibly connected to a group that Oswald never belonged to. He was
a member of the "Hands of Cuba Committee".
It was Fair Play for Cuba Committee. Sorry for the mistake.
Russ
Post by Russ Burr
Perhaps you should read what you but own your web site.
Russ
Buddy Walthers Report does NOT say "Fair Play for Cuba Committee"
You "messed up" Again.
http://whokilledjfk.net/catch_of_the_day.htm
Read it & WEEP.
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2008-07-02 00:06:16 UTC
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<***@gmail.com> wrote in message news:6c708ac2-bf35-41a1-84d1-***@w5g2000prd.googlegroups.com...
MIDDLE POST

Hi tomnln,
Post by t***@gmail.com
TOP POST
Hi tomnln,
Say, it has already been pointed out to you, a number of months ago, that
Buddy Walthers referred to the yellow and black pamphlets he found in the
Paine garage as *Freedom For Cuba Party* pamphlets.
It's quite clear he made the same mistake about the name of the *Fair Play
for Cuba Committee* (FPCC) when he called it the *Freedom For Cuba Party*
in his statement about Harlendale, tomnln.
You do know that Oswald was a card carrying member of the *Fair Play for
Cuba Committee*, don't you tomnln?
He distributed yellow and black pamphlets, calling for a *hands off Cuba*,
on behalf of the FPCC, in New Orleans, tomnln.
Got any evidence, apart from Walthers, that Oswald was EVER a member of an
organisation called *Freedom For Cuba Party* tomnln?
Walthers made an obvious mistake, tomnln. If you can't work that out then
I wouldn't be going around lecturing anyone about *evidence/ testimony* in
*the 26 volumes* if I were you, tomnln.
That would be a very unwise idea, tomnln. A very unwise idea indeed...
Regards,
Tim Brennan
Sydney, Australia
*Newsgroup(s) Commentator*
Do you Deny that Oswald was seen at the Harlendale Avenue address Timmy?
Well according to this FBI Airtel of 12/22/75 that I am helpfully posting
for the third time this evening he never was, tomnln:

QUOTE ON:

A review of Dallas file 134-332 reflects that former DL 282-S, whose
identity is known to the Bureau (Bufile 105-131,209), was in a top
leadership position in "ALPHA 66" at Dallas, Texas, in 1963 and 1964, and
he reported to the Dallas Office during 1964 that meetings of this group
were held during 1963 at the residence of one JORGE SALAZAR, 3126
Harlendale Street, Dallas, Texas. According to this source, as well as
other informants familiar with Cuban matters during the period 1963-1964,
LEE HARVEY OSWALD was not known to have ever associated with, or been
known to members of "ALPHA 66" and there is no information that he ever
visited 3126 Harlendale Street, Dallas, Texas, as reported by Deputy
Sheriff WALTHERS.

QUOTE OFF
Post by t***@gmail.com
Do you Deny that it was "ANTI-CASTRO CUBANS" that MET THERE?
Oh no, tomnln, I don't deny that. But FBI source DL 282-S, an FBI source
within Alpha 66, says Oswald was never there, tomnln, according to the
above.

That is OFFICIAL evidence/testimony, tomnln.

Now, tomnln, a question for you:

Do you Deny that when Buddy Walthers said "FREEDOM FOR CUBA PARTY" he
actually meant "FAIR PLAY FOR CUBA COMMITTEE" tomnln?

I think it would be a very unsound idea if you did deny that, tomnln.

Very unsound indeed.

Regards,

Tim Brennan
Sydney, Australia
*Newsgroup(s) Commentator*
-----------------------------------------------------------------------

Are you talking about the same FBI who "Witheld" evidence???

Very unsound source Timmy.

Verry Unsound indeed.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
Post by t***@gmail.com
Post by tomnln
Post by Russ Burr
Post by Russ Burr
Post by tomnln
Post by Russ Burr
From Buddy Walthers Sheriff's REport
"Upon searching this house we found stacks of hand bills concerning
"Cuba for Freedom" advertising, seeking publicity and support for Cuba.
Also found was a set of metal file cabinets containing records that
appeared to be names and activities of Cuban sympathizers. All of this
evidence was confiscated and turned over to Captain Fritz of the Dallas
Police Department and Secret Service Officers at the City Hall."
These were nothing more than Oswald's belongings.
And not the Paine's
Buddy Walthers also reported Oswald visiting a house full of Anti-Castro
Cubans on Harlendale Avenue REGULARLY.
SEE item 12>>>http://whokilledjfk.net/catch_of_the_day.htm
This is what the convincing document says to prove that Oswald was
hanging out with Anti-Castro Cubans in the weeks before the
assassination: "some Cubans had been having meetings on the weekends and
were possibly connected with the "Freedom for Cuba Party" of which Oswald
was a member." (WOW)
That's from the Sheriff Department, Supplementary Investigation Report
dated 11/23/63 and 11/26/63.
So Walthers never said he was attending this meeting but it's members
were possibly connected to a group that Oswald never belonged to. He was
a member of the "Hands of Cuba Committee".
It was Fair Play for Cuba Committee. Sorry for the mistake.
Russ
Post by Russ Burr
Perhaps you should read what you but own your web site.
Russ
Buddy Walthers Report does NOT say "Fair Play for Cuba Committee"
You "messed up" Again.
http://whokilledjfk.net/catch_of_the_day.htm
Read it & WEEP.
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2008-07-02 19:30:12 UTC
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TOP POST

Hi tomnln,

The FBI is an unsound source, yet Buddy Walthers (who doesn't appear
to know the difference between the Fair Play for Cuba Committee and
some non-existent Freedom For Cuba Party) is a sound one in your book?

I guess it must be so, tomnln, since you've been spouting Buddy's
nonsense (which we now learn was supplied by his old mother in law,
LOL) as gospel for a number of years now, tomnln.

The FBI Airtel of 12/22/75 I quoted is an OFFICIAL record, tomnln. An
OFFICIAL record that blows your stupid claim about the obviously
flawed report by Buddy Walthers right out of the water, tomnln.

You appear to be losing your appetite for OFFICIAL records tomnln. I
guess they're just not palatable when they prove one of your pet
theories is a crock, eh? LOL, that is not much of an approach to
research, tomnln. Not much of an approach at all...

Concerned Regards,

Tim Brennan
Sydney, Australia
*Newsgroup(s) Commentator*
Post by t***@gmail.com
MIDDLE POST
Hi tomnln,
Post by t***@gmail.com
TOP POST
Hi tomnln,
Say, it has already been pointed out to you, a number of months ago, that
Buddy Walthers referred to the yellow and black pamphlets he found in the
Paine garage as *Freedom For Cuba Party* pamphlets.
It's quite clear he made the same mistake about the name of the *Fair Play
for Cuba Committee* (FPCC) when he called it the *Freedom For Cuba Party*
in his statement about Harlendale, tomnln.
You do know that Oswald was a card carrying member of the *Fair Play for
Cuba Committee*, don't you tomnln?
He distributed yellow and black pamphlets, calling for a *hands off Cuba*,
on behalf of the FPCC, in New Orleans, tomnln.
Got any evidence, apart from Walthers, that Oswald was EVER a member of an
organisation called *Freedom For Cuba Party* tomnln?
Walthers made an obvious mistake, tomnln. If you can't work that out then
I wouldn't be going around lecturing anyone about *evidence/ testimony* in
*the 26 volumes* if I were you, tomnln.
That would be a very unwise idea, tomnln. A very unwise idea indeed...
Regards,
Tim Brennan
Sydney, Australia
*Newsgroup(s) Commentator*
Do you Deny that Oswald was seen at the Harlendale Avenue address Timmy?
Well according to this FBI Airtel of 12/22/75 that I am helpfully posting
A review of Dallas file 134-332 reflects that former DL 282-S, whose
identity is known to the Bureau (Bufile 105-131,209), was in a top
leadership position in "ALPHA 66" at Dallas, Texas, in 1963 and 1964, and
he reported to the Dallas Office during 1964 that meetings of this group
were held during 1963 at the residence of one JORGE SALAZAR, 3126
Harlendale Street, Dallas, Texas. According to this source, as well as
other informants familiar with Cuban matters during the period 1963-1964,
LEE HARVEY OSWALD was not known to have ever associated with, or been
known to members of "ALPHA 66" and there is no information that he ever
visited 3126 Harlendale Street, Dallas, Texas, as reported by Deputy
Sheriff WALTHERS.
QUOTE OFF
Post by t***@gmail.com
Do you Deny that it was "ANTI-CASTRO CUBANS" that MET THERE?
Oh no, tomnln, I don't deny that. But FBI source DL 282-S, an FBI source
within Alpha 66, says Oswald was never there, tomnln, according to the
above.
That is OFFICIAL evidence/testimony, tomnln.
Do you Deny that when Buddy Walthers said "FREEDOM FOR CUBA PARTY" he
actually meant "FAIR PLAY FOR CUBA COMMITTEE" tomnln?
I think it would be a very unsound idea if you did deny that, tomnln.
Very unsound indeed.
Regards,
Tim Brennan
Sydney, Australia
*Newsgroup(s) Commentator*
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
Are you talking about the same FBI who "Witheld" evidence???
Very unsound source Timmy.
Verry Unsound indeed.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
Post by t***@gmail.com
Post by tomnln
Post by Russ Burr
Post by Russ Burr
Post by tomnln
Post by Russ Burr
From Buddy Walthers Sheriff's REport
"Upon searching this house we found stacks of hand bills concerning
"Cuba for Freedom" advertising, seeking publicity and support for Cuba.
Also found was a set of metal file cabinets containing records that
appeared to be names and activities of Cuban sympathizers. All of this
evidence was confiscated and turned over to Captain Fritz of the Dallas
Police Department and Secret Service Officers at the City Hall."
These were nothing more than Oswald's belongings.
And not the Paine's
Buddy Walthers also reported Oswald visiting a house full of Anti-Castro
Cubans on Harlendale Avenue REGULARLY.
SEE item 12>>>http://whokilledjfk.net/catch_of_the_day.htm
This is what the convincing document says to prove that Oswald was
hanging out with Anti-Castro Cubans in the weeks before the
assassination: "some Cubans had been having meetings on the weekends and
were possibly connected with the "Freedom for Cuba Party" of which Oswald
was a member." (WOW)
That's from the Sheriff Department, Supplementary Investigation Report
dated 11/23/63 and 11/26/63.
So Walthers never said he was attending this meeting but it's members
were possibly connected to a group that Oswald never belonged to. He was
a member of the "Hands of Cuba Committee".
It was Fair Play for Cuba Committee. Sorry for the mistake.
Russ
Post by Russ Burr
Perhaps you should read what you but own your web site.
Russ
Buddy Walthers Report does NOT say "Fair Play for Cuba Committee"
You "messed up" Again.
http://whokilledjfk.net/catch_of_the_day.htm
Read it & WEEP.
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2008-07-02 20:31:35 UTC
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Timmy;

All you did was type what you call an FBI Report. (After the fact, I might
add)

Why don't you SHOW us the Actual FBI Report you allude to?

LIKE I DO! ! ! !


<***@gmail.com> wrote in message news:b1ee28cb-2a2c-4ede-bf9a-***@v1g2000pra.googlegroups.com...
TOP POST

Hi tomnln,

The FBI is an unsound source, yet Buddy Walthers (who doesn't appear
to know the difference between the Fair Play for Cuba Committee and
some non-existent Freedom For Cuba Party) is a sound one in your book?

I guess it must be so, tomnln, since you've been spouting Buddy's
nonsense (which we now learn was supplied by his old mother in law,
LOL) as gospel for a number of years now, tomnln.

The FBI Airtel of 12/22/75 I quoted is an OFFICIAL record, tomnln. An
OFFICIAL record that blows your stupid claim about the obviously
flawed report by Buddy Walthers right out of the water, tomnln.

You appear to be losing your appetite for OFFICIAL records tomnln. I
guess they're just not palatable when they prove one of your pet
theories is a crock, eh? LOL, that is not much of an approach to
research, tomnln. Not much of an approach at all...

Concerned Regards,

Tim Brennan
Sydney, Australia
*Newsgroup(s) Commentator*
Post by t***@gmail.com
MIDDLE POST
Hi tomnln,
Post by t***@gmail.com
TOP POST
Hi tomnln,
Say, it has already been pointed out to you, a number of months ago, that
Buddy Walthers referred to the yellow and black pamphlets he found in the
Paine garage as *Freedom For Cuba Party* pamphlets.
It's quite clear he made the same mistake about the name of the *Fair Play
for Cuba Committee* (FPCC) when he called it the *Freedom For Cuba Party*
in his statement about Harlendale, tomnln.
You do know that Oswald was a card carrying member of the *Fair Play for
Cuba Committee*, don't you tomnln?
He distributed yellow and black pamphlets, calling for a *hands off Cuba*,
on behalf of the FPCC, in New Orleans, tomnln.
Got any evidence, apart from Walthers, that Oswald was EVER a member of an
organisation called *Freedom For Cuba Party* tomnln?
Walthers made an obvious mistake, tomnln. If you can't work that out then
I wouldn't be going around lecturing anyone about *evidence/ testimony* in
*the 26 volumes* if I were you, tomnln.
That would be a very unwise idea, tomnln. A very unwise idea indeed...
Regards,
Tim Brennan
Sydney, Australia
*Newsgroup(s) Commentator*
Do you Deny that Oswald was seen at the Harlendale Avenue address Timmy?
Well according to this FBI Airtel of 12/22/75 that I am helpfully posting
A review of Dallas file 134-332 reflects that former DL 282-S, whose
identity is known to the Bureau (Bufile 105-131,209), was in a top
leadership position in "ALPHA 66" at Dallas, Texas, in 1963 and 1964, and
he reported to the Dallas Office during 1964 that meetings of this group
were held during 1963 at the residence of one JORGE SALAZAR, 3126
Harlendale Street, Dallas, Texas. According to this source, as well as
other informants familiar with Cuban matters during the period 1963-1964,
LEE HARVEY OSWALD was not known to have ever associated with, or been
known to members of "ALPHA 66" and there is no information that he ever
visited 3126 Harlendale Street, Dallas, Texas, as reported by Deputy
Sheriff WALTHERS.
QUOTE OFF
Post by t***@gmail.com
Do you Deny that it was "ANTI-CASTRO CUBANS" that MET THERE?
Oh no, tomnln, I don't deny that. But FBI source DL 282-S, an FBI source
within Alpha 66, says Oswald was never there, tomnln, according to the
above.
That is OFFICIAL evidence/testimony, tomnln.
Do you Deny that when Buddy Walthers said "FREEDOM FOR CUBA PARTY" he
actually meant "FAIR PLAY FOR CUBA COMMITTEE" tomnln?
I think it would be a very unsound idea if you did deny that, tomnln.
Very unsound indeed.
Regards,
Tim Brennan
Sydney, Australia
*Newsgroup(s) Commentator*
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
Are you talking about the same FBI who "Witheld" evidence???
Very unsound source Timmy.
Verry Unsound indeed.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
Post by t***@gmail.com
Post by tomnln
Post by Russ Burr
Post by Russ Burr
Post by tomnln
Post by Russ Burr
From Buddy Walthers Sheriff's REport
"Upon searching this house we found stacks of hand bills concerning
"Cuba for Freedom" advertising, seeking publicity and support for Cuba.
Also found was a set of metal file cabinets containing records that
appeared to be names and activities of Cuban sympathizers. All of this
evidence was confiscated and turned over to Captain Fritz of the Dallas
Police Department and Secret Service Officers at the City Hall."
These were nothing more than Oswald's belongings.
And not the Paine's
Buddy Walthers also reported Oswald visiting a house full of Anti-Castro
Cubans on Harlendale Avenue REGULARLY.
SEE item 12>>>http://whokilledjfk.net/catch_of_the_day.htm
This is what the convincing document says to prove that Oswald was
hanging out with Anti-Castro Cubans in the weeks before the
assassination: "some Cubans had been having meetings on the
weekends
and
were possibly connected with the "Freedom for Cuba Party" of which Oswald
was a member." (WOW)
That's from the Sheriff Department, Supplementary Investigation Report
dated 11/23/63 and 11/26/63.
So Walthers never said he was attending this meeting but it's members
were possibly connected to a group that Oswald never belonged to.
He
was
a member of the "Hands of Cuba Committee".
It was Fair Play for Cuba Committee. Sorry for the mistake.
Russ
Post by Russ Burr
Perhaps you should read what you but own your web site.
Russ
Buddy Walthers Report does NOT say "Fair Play for Cuba Committee"
You "messed up" Again.
http://whokilledjfk.net/catch_of_the_day.htm
Read it & WEEP.
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2008-07-03 02:49:23 UTC
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Post by tomnln
Timmy;
All you did was type what you call an FBI Report. (After the fact, I
might add)
Why don't you SHOW us the Actual FBI Report you allude to?
LIKE I DO! ! ! !
We'd like to know that you didn't make any Typo's.
Post by tomnln
TOP POST
Hi tomnln,
The FBI is an unsound source, yet Buddy Walthers (who doesn't appear
to know the difference between the Fair Play for Cuba Committee and
some non-existent Freedom For Cuba Party) is a sound one in your book?
I guess it must be so, tomnln, since you've been spouting Buddy's
nonsense (which we now learn was supplied by his old mother in law,
LOL) as gospel for a number of years now, tomnln.
The FBI Airtel of 12/22/75 I quoted is an OFFICIAL record, tomnln. An
OFFICIAL record that blows your stupid claim about the obviously
flawed report by Buddy Walthers right out of the water, tomnln.
You appear to be losing your appetite for OFFICIAL records tomnln. I
guess they're just not palatable when they prove one of your pet
theories is a crock, eh? LOL, that is not much of an approach to
research, tomnln. Not much of an approach at all...
Concerned Regards,
Tim Brennan
Sydney, Australia
*Newsgroup(s) Commentator*
Post by t***@gmail.com
MIDDLE POST
Hi tomnln,
Post by t***@gmail.com
TOP POST
Hi tomnln,
Say, it has already been pointed out to you, a number of months ago, that
Buddy Walthers referred to the yellow and black pamphlets he found in the
Paine garage as *Freedom For Cuba Party* pamphlets.
It's quite clear he made the same mistake about the name of the *Fair Play
for Cuba Committee* (FPCC) when he called it the *Freedom For Cuba Party*
in his statement about Harlendale, tomnln.
You do know that Oswald was a card carrying member of the *Fair Play for
Cuba Committee*, don't you tomnln?
He distributed yellow and black pamphlets, calling for a *hands off Cuba*,
on behalf of the FPCC, in New Orleans, tomnln.
Got any evidence, apart from Walthers, that Oswald was EVER a member of an
organisation called *Freedom For Cuba Party* tomnln?
Walthers made an obvious mistake, tomnln. If you can't work that out then
I wouldn't be going around lecturing anyone about *evidence/ testimony* in
*the 26 volumes* if I were you, tomnln.
That would be a very unwise idea, tomnln. A very unwise idea indeed...
Regards,
Tim Brennan
Sydney, Australia
*Newsgroup(s) Commentator*
Do you Deny that Oswald was seen at the Harlendale Avenue address Timmy?
Well according to this FBI Airtel of 12/22/75 that I am helpfully posting
A review of Dallas file 134-332 reflects that former DL 282-S, whose
identity is known to the Bureau (Bufile 105-131,209), was in a top
leadership position in "ALPHA 66" at Dallas, Texas, in 1963 and 1964, and
he reported to the Dallas Office during 1964 that meetings of this group
were held during 1963 at the residence of one JORGE SALAZAR, 3126
Harlendale Street, Dallas, Texas. According to this source, as well as
other informants familiar with Cuban matters during the period 1963-1964,
LEE HARVEY OSWALD was not known to have ever associated with, or been
known to members of "ALPHA 66" and there is no information that he ever
visited 3126 Harlendale Street, Dallas, Texas, as reported by Deputy
Sheriff WALTHERS.
QUOTE OFF
Post by t***@gmail.com
Do you Deny that it was "ANTI-CASTRO CUBANS" that MET THERE?
Oh no, tomnln, I don't deny that. But FBI source DL 282-S, an FBI source
within Alpha 66, says Oswald was never there, tomnln, according to the
above.
That is OFFICIAL evidence/testimony, tomnln.
Do you Deny that when Buddy Walthers said "FREEDOM FOR CUBA PARTY" he
actually meant "FAIR PLAY FOR CUBA COMMITTEE" tomnln?
I think it would be a very unsound idea if you did deny that, tomnln.
Very unsound indeed.
Regards,
Tim Brennan
Sydney, Australia
*Newsgroup(s) Commentator*
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
Are you talking about the same FBI who "Witheld" evidence???
Very unsound source Timmy.
Verry Unsound indeed.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
Post by t***@gmail.com
Post by tomnln
Post by Russ Burr
Post by Russ Burr
Post by tomnln
Post by Russ Burr
From Buddy Walthers Sheriff's REport
"Upon searching this house we found stacks of hand bills concerning
"Cuba for Freedom" advertising, seeking publicity and support for
Cuba.
Also found was a set of metal file cabinets containing records that
appeared to be names and activities of Cuban sympathizers. All
of
this
evidence was confiscated and turned over to Captain Fritz of the Dallas
Police Department and Secret Service Officers at the City Hall."
These were nothing more than Oswald's belongings.
And not the Paine's
Buddy Walthers also reported Oswald visiting a house full of Anti-Castro
Cubans on Harlendale Avenue REGULARLY.
SEE item 12>>>http://whokilledjfk.net/catch_of_the_day.htm
This is what the convincing document says to prove that Oswald was
hanging out with Anti-Castro Cubans in the weeks before the
assassination: "some Cubans had been having meetings on the
weekends
and
were possibly connected with the "Freedom for Cuba Party" of which Oswald
was a member." (WOW)
That's from the Sheriff Department, Supplementary Investigation Report
dated 11/23/63 and 11/26/63.
So Walthers never said he was attending this meeting but it's members
were possibly connected to a group that Oswald never belonged to.
He
was
a member of the "Hands of Cuba Committee".
It was Fair Play for Cuba Committee. Sorry for the mistake.
Russ
Post by Russ Burr
Perhaps you should read what you but own your web site.
Russ
Buddy Walthers Report does NOT say "Fair Play for Cuba Committee"
You "messed up" Again.
http://whokilledjfk.net/catch_of_the_day.htm
Read it & WEEP.
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2008-07-05 05:51:48 UTC
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Hi tomnln,

Say, you're concerned about MY typographical errors, yet you can't cobble
together a one line post yourself without a typo in it?

It sounds to me, tomnln, that you don't believe that there IS any such FBI
report debunking Walthers. Do you think I would just make such things up,
tomnln?

I think we'll leave the fiction to you, tomnln, given your recent efforts.

Regards,

Tim Brennan
Sydney, Australia
*Newsgroup(s) Commentator*
Post by tomnln
Post by tomnln
Timmy;
All you did was type what you call an FBI Report.  (After the fact, I
might add)
Why don't you SHOW us the Actual FBI Report you allude to?
LIKE I DO! ! ! !
We'd like to know that you didn't make any Typo's.
Post by tomnln
TOP POST
Hi tomnln,
The FBI is an unsound source, yet Buddy Walthers (who doesn't appear
to know the difference between the Fair Play for Cuba Committee and
some non-existent Freedom For Cuba Party) is a sound one in your book?
I guess it must be so, tomnln, since you've been spouting Buddy's
nonsense (which we now learn was supplied by his old mother in law,
LOL) as gospel for a number of years now, tomnln.
The FBI Airtel of 12/22/75 I quoted is an OFFICIAL record, tomnln. An
OFFICIAL record that blows your stupid claim about the obviously
flawed report by Buddy Walthers right out of the water, tomnln.
You appear to be losing your appetite for OFFICIAL records tomnln. I
guess they're just not palatable when they prove one of your pet
theories is a crock, eh? LOL, that is not much of an approach to
research, tomnln. Not much of an approach at all...
Concerned Regards,
Tim Brennan
Sydney, Australia
*Newsgroup(s) Commentator*
Post by t***@gmail.com
MIDDLE POST
Hi tomnln,
Post by t***@gmail.com
TOP POST
Hi tomnln,
Say, it has already been pointed out to you, a number of months ago, that
Buddy Walthers referred to the yellow and black pamphlets he found in the
Paine garage as *Freedom For Cuba Party* pamphlets.
It's quite clear he made the same mistake about the name of the *Fair Play
for Cuba Committee* (FPCC) when he called it the *Freedom For Cuba Party*
in his statement about Harlendale, tomnln.
You do know that Oswald was a card carrying member of the *Fair Play for
Cuba Committee*, don't you tomnln?
He distributed yellow and black pamphlets, calling for a *hands off Cuba*,
on behalf of the FPCC, in New Orleans, tomnln.
Got any evidence, apart from Walthers, that Oswald was EVER a member of an
organisation called *Freedom For Cuba Party* tomnln?
Walthers made an obvious mistake, tomnln. If you can't work that out then
I wouldn't be going around lecturing anyone about *evidence/ testimony* in
*the 26 volumes* if I were you, tomnln.
That would be a very unwise idea, tomnln. A very unwise idea indeed...
Regards,
Tim Brennan
Sydney, Australia
*Newsgroup(s) Commentator*
Do you Deny that Oswald was seen at the Harlendale Avenue address Timmy?
Well according to this FBI Airtel of 12/22/75 that I am helpfully posting
A review of Dallas file 134-332 reflects that former DL 282-S, whose
identity is known to the Bureau (Bufile 105-131,209), was in a top
leadership position in "ALPHA 66" at Dallas, Texas, in 1963 and 1964, and
he reported to the Dallas Office during 1964 that meetings of this group
were held during 1963 at the residence of one JORGE SALAZAR, 3126
Harlendale Street, Dallas, Texas. According to this source, as well as
other informants familiar with Cuban matters during the period 1963-1964,
LEE HARVEY OSWALD was not known to have ever associated with, or been
known to members of "ALPHA 66" and there is no information that he ever
visited 3126 Harlendale Street, Dallas, Texas, as reported by Deputy
Sheriff WALTHERS.
QUOTE OFF
Post by t***@gmail.com
Do you Deny that it was "ANTI-CASTRO CUBANS" that MET THERE?
Oh no, tomnln, I don't deny that. But FBI source DL 282-S, an FBI source
within Alpha 66, says Oswald was never there, tomnln, according to the
above.
That is OFFICIAL evidence/testimony, tomnln.
Do you Deny that when Buddy Walthers said "FREEDOM FOR CUBA PARTY" he
actually meant "FAIR PLAY FOR CUBA COMMITTEE" tomnln?
I think it would be a very unsound idea if you did deny that, tomnln.
Very unsound indeed.
Regards,
Tim Brennan
Sydney, Australia
*Newsgroup(s) Commentator*
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Are you talking about the same FBI who "Witheld" evidence???
Very unsound source Timmy.
Verry Unsound indeed.
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Post by t***@gmail.com
Post by tomnln
Post by Russ Burr
Post by Russ Burr
Post by tomnln
Post by Russ Burr
From Buddy Walthers Sheriff's REport
"Upon searching this house we found stacks of hand bills concerning
"Cuba for Freedom" advertising, seeking publicity and support for
Cuba.
Also found was a set of metal file cabinets containing records that
appeared to be names and activities of Cuban sympathizers. All
of
this
evidence was confiscated and turned over to Captain Fritz of the
Dallas
Police Department and Secret Service Officers at the City Hall."
These were nothing more than Oswald's belongings.
And not the Paine's
Buddy Walthers also reported Oswald visiting a house full of
Anti-Castro
Cubans on Harlendale Avenue REGULARLY.
SEE item 12>>>http://whokilledjfk.net/catch_of_the_day.htm
This is what the convincing document says to prove that Oswald was
hanging out with Anti-Castro Cubans in the weeks before the
assassination: "some Cubans had been having meetings on the
weekends
and
were possibly connected with the "Freedom for Cuba Party" of which
Oswald
was a member." (WOW)
That's from the Sheriff Department, Supplementary Investigation Report
dated 11/23/63 and 11/26/63.
So Walthers never said he was attending this meeting but it's members
were possibly connected to a group that Oswald never belonged to.
He
was
a member of the "Hands of Cuba Committee".
It was Fair Play for Cuba Committee. Sorry for the mistake.
Russ
Post by Russ Burr
Perhaps you should read what you but own your web site.
Russ
Buddy Walthers Report does NOT say "Fair Play for Cuba Committee"
You "messed up" Again.
http://whokilledjfk.net/catch_of_the_day.htm
Read it & WEEP.
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Hi tomnln,
Post by tomnln
Timmy;
All you did was type what you call an FBI Report.  (After the fact, I might
add)
Not exactly correct, tomnln. What I did was use the OCR dump from an
actual FBI document and then correct any errors in it. That's not me
typing up what I call an FBI report, tomnln. That makes it sound like I
made it all up. That OFFICIAL report debunks your Buddy Walthers nonsense,
tomnln.
Post by tomnln
Why don't you SHOW us the Actual FBI Report you allude to?
LIKE I DO! ! ! !
Like you do? You mean like that scan of the Walthers report that you put
up at your website a couple of times that people can barely see?

Why didn't you cite it correctly, tomnln? I mean, would it be too
difficult to simply source it as 19 H 534 and post a link?:

http://www.aarclibrary.org/publib/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh19/html/WH_Vol19_0276b.htm

That way we can ALL see Walthers's obviously wrong report, tomnln, and
marvel that ANYONE would ascribe any weight to such an obviously
flawed document.

Do you think you could possably (sic) manage that next time, tomnln?

Regards,

Tim Brennan
Sydney, Australia
*Newsgroup(s) Commentator*
Anthony Marsh
2008-07-06 17:10:28 UTC
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MIDDLE POST
Hi tomnln,
Post by tomnln
Timmy;
All you did was type what you call an FBI Report. (After the fact, I might
add)
Not exactly correct, tomnln. What I did was use the OCR dump from an
actual FBI document and then correct any errors in it. That's not me
typing up what I call an FBI report, tomnln. That makes it sound like I
made it all up. That OFFICIAL report debunks your Buddy Walthers nonsense,
tomnln.
Post by tomnln
Why don't you SHOW us the Actual FBI Report you allude to?
LIKE I DO! ! ! !
Like you do? You mean like that scan of the Walthers report that you put
up at your website a couple of times that people can barely see?
Why didn't you cite it correctly, tomnln? I mean, would it be too
http://www.aarclibrary.org/publib/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh19/html/WH_Vol19_0276b.htm
That way we can ALL see Walthers's obviously wrong report, tomnln, and
marvel that ANYONE would ascribe any weight to such an obviously
flawed document.
I don't think all the blame can be placed on Walthers. His statement was
on Saturday morning and yes he was confused, but that may have been
caused by the mistake Henry Wade made at the midnight press conference
the night before when he said that Oswald was a member of the Free Cuba
Movement. It was an easy mistake to make. Walthers informant may have
made the same mistake. At the time there were no other local members of
Oswald's Fair Play For Cuba.
Post by t***@gmail.com
Do you think you could possably (sic) manage that next time, tomnln?
Regards,
Tim Brennan
Sydney, Australia
*Newsgroup(s) Commentator*
t***@gmail.com
2008-07-13 04:29:44 UTC
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Hi Tony,

That is probably correct about Buddy Walthers. Presumably by the morning
of 23 November some of those DPD officers had had very little sleep.
Walthers, however, did continue to refer to it as the *Freedom For Cuba
Party* when he testified before the Warren Commission sometime later,
before being corrected that it was actually the FPCC.

The point I am trying to make is why would anyone sieze on such an
obviously flawed report in the first place, and try and make something of
it?

The following thoroughly debunks tomnln's nonsense on the matter, though I
doubt he'll ever bother to comment on it.

http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/viewer/showDoc.do?docId=10146&relPageId=12

Perhaps he's losing his appetite for OFFICIAL records and evidence/
testimony! :-)

Regards,

Tim Brennan
Sydney, Australia
*Newsgroup(s) Commentator*
Post by t***@gmail.com
MIDDLE POST
Hi tomnln,
Post by tomnln
Timmy;
All you did was type what you call an FBI Report.  (After the fact, I might
add)
Not exactly correct, tomnln. What I did was use the OCR dump from an
actual FBI document and then correct any errors in it. That's not me
typing up what I call an FBI report, tomnln. That makes it sound like I
made it all up. That OFFICIAL report debunks yourBuddyWalthersnonsense,
tomnln.
Post by tomnln
Why don't you SHOW us the Actual FBI Report you allude to?
LIKE I DO! ! ! !
Like you do? You mean like that scan of theWalthersreport that you put
up at your website a couple of times that people can barely see?
Why didn't you cite it correctly, tomnln? I mean, would it be too
http://www.aarclibrary.org/publib/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh19/html/WH_Vol19_02...
That way we can ALL seeWalthers'sobviously wrong report, tomnln, and
marvel that ANYONE would ascribe any weight to such an obviously
flawed document.
I don't think all the blame can be placed onWalthers. His statement was
on Saturday morning and yes he was confused, but that may have been
caused by the mistake Henry Wade made at the midnight press conference
the night before when he said that Oswald was a member of the Free Cuba
Movement. It was an easy mistake to make.Walthersinformant may have
made the same mistake. At the time there were no other local members of
Oswald's Fair Play For Cuba.
Post by t***@gmail.com
Do you think you could possably (sic) manage that next time, tomnln?
Regards,
Tim Brennan
Sydney, Australia
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TOP POST

Hi Tony,

That is probably correct about Buddy Walthers. Presumably by the morning
of 23 November some of those DPD officers had had very little sleep.
Walthers, however, did continue to refer to it as the *Freedom For Cuba
Party* when he testified before the Warren Commission sometime later,
before being corrected that it was actually the FPCC.

The point I am trying to make is why would anyone sieze on such an
obviously flawed report in the first place, and try and make something of
it?

The following thoroughly debunks tomnln's nonsense on the matter, though I
doubt he'll ever bother to comment on it.

http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/viewer/showDoc.do?docId=10146&relPageId=12

Perhaps he's losing his appetite for OFFICIAL records and evidence/
testimony! :-)

Regards,

Tim Brennan
Sydney, Australia
*Newsgroup(s) Commentator*
Post by t***@gmail.com
MIDDLE POST
Hi tomnln,
Post by tomnln
Timmy;
All you did was type what you call an FBI Report. (After the fact, I
might
add)
Not exactly correct, tomnln. What I did was use the OCR dump from an
actual FBI document and then correct any errors in it. That's not me
typing up what I call an FBI report, tomnln. That makes it sound like I
made it all up. That OFFICIAL report debunks yourBuddyWalthersnonsense,
tomnln.
Post by tomnln
Why don't you SHOW us the Actual FBI Report you allude to?
LIKE I DO! ! ! !
Like you do? You mean like that scan of theWalthersreport that you put
up at your website a couple of times that people can barely see?
Why didn't you cite it correctly, tomnln? I mean, would it be too
http://www.aarclibrary.org/publib/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh19/html/WH_Vol19_02...
That way we can ALL seeWalthers'sobviously wrong report, tomnln, and
marvel that ANYONE would ascribe any weight to such an obviously
flawed document.
I don't think all the blame can be placed onWalthers. His statement was
on Saturday morning and yes he was confused, but that may have been
caused by the mistake Henry Wade made at the midnight press conference
the night before when he said that Oswald was a member of the Free Cuba
Movement. It was an easy mistake to make.Walthersinformant may have
made the same mistake. At the time there were no other local members of
Oswald's Fair Play For Cuba.
Post by t***@gmail.com
Do you think you could possably (sic) manage that next time, tomnln?
Regards,
Tim Brennan
Sydney, Australia
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TOP POST
Hi Tony,
That is probably correct about Buddy Walthers. Presumably by the morning
of 23 November some of those DPD officers had had very little sleep.
Walthers, however, did continue to refer to it as the *Freedom For Cuba
Party* when he testified before the Warren Commission sometime later,
before being corrected that it was actually the FPCC.
The point I am trying to make is why would anyone sieze on such an
obviously flawed report in the first place, and try and make something of
it?
Because certain people try to take a backdoor approach to proving
conspiracy. For example we all know that Oswald was a nonsmoker. So they
would try to twist some witness statement into seeing Oswald smoking. Then
use that to prove it wasn't the real Oswald, therefore it was a
conspiracy.
Post by t***@gmail.com
The following thoroughly debunks tomnln's nonsense on the matter, though I
doubt he'll ever bother to comment on it.
http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/viewer/showDoc.do?docId=10146&relPageId=12
Perhaps he's losing his appetite for OFFICIAL records and evidence/
testimony! :-)
He picks and chooses and misrepresents.
Post by t***@gmail.com
Regards,
Tim Brennan
Sydney, Australia
*Newsgroup(s) Commentator*
Post by t***@gmail.com
MIDDLE POST
Hi tomnln,
Post by tomnln
Timmy;
All you did was type what you call an FBI Report. (After the fact, I might
add)
Not exactly correct, tomnln. What I did was use the OCR dump from an
actual FBI document and then correct any errors in it. That's not me
typing up what I call an FBI report, tomnln. That makes it sound like I
made it all up. That OFFICIAL report debunks yourBuddyWalthersnonsense,
tomnln.
Post by tomnln
Why don't you SHOW us the Actual FBI Report you allude to?
LIKE I DO! ! ! !
Like you do? You mean like that scan of theWalthersreport that you put
up at your website a couple of times that people can barely see?
Why didn't you cite it correctly, tomnln? I mean, would it be too
http://www.aarclibrary.org/publib/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh19/html/WH_Vol19_02...
That way we can ALL seeWalthers'sobviously wrong report, tomnln, and
marvel that ANYONE would ascribe any weight to such an obviously
flawed document.
I don't think all the blame can be placed onWalthers. His statement was
on Saturday morning and yes he was confused, but that may have been
caused by the mistake Henry Wade made at the midnight press conference
the night before when he said that Oswald was a member of the Free Cuba
Movement. It was an easy mistake to make.Walthersinformant may have
made the same mistake. At the time there were no other local members of
Oswald's Fair Play For Cuba.
Post by t***@gmail.com
Do you think you could possably (sic) manage that next time, tomnln?
Regards,
Tim Brennan
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2008-06-30 21:03:45 UTC
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Post by tomnln
Post by Russ Burr
Post by Russ Burr
Post by tomnln
Post by Russ Burr
From Buddy Walthers Sheriff's REport
"Upon searching this house we found stacks of hand bills concerning
"Cuba for Freedom" advertising, seeking publicity and support for
Cuba. Also found was a set of metal file cabinets containing
records that appeared to be names and activities of Cuban
sympathizers. All of this evidence was confiscated and turned over
to Captain Fritz of the Dallas Police Department and Secret Service
Officers at the City Hall."
These were nothing more than Oswald's belongings.
And not the Paine's
Buddy Walthers also reported Oswald visiting a house full of
Anti-Castro Cubans on Harlendale Avenue REGULARLY.
SEE item 12>>> http://whokilledjfk.net/catch_of_the_day.htm
This is what the convincing document says to prove that Oswald was
hanging out with Anti-Castro Cubans in the weeks before the
assassination: "some Cubans had been having meetings on the weekends
and were possibly connected with the "Freedom for Cuba Party" of
which Oswald was a member." (WOW)
That's from the Sheriff Department, Supplementary Investigation
Report dated 11/23/63 and 11/26/63.
So Walthers never said he was attending this meeting but it's members
were possibly connected to a group that Oswald never belonged to. He
was a member of the "Hands of Cuba Committee".
It was Fair Play for Cuba Committee. Sorry for the mistake.
Russ
Post by Russ Burr
Perhaps you should read what you but own your web site.
Russ
Buddy Walthers Report does NOT say "Fair Play for Cuba Committee"
You "messed up" Again.
http://whokilledjfk.net/catch_of_the_day.htm
Read it & WEEP.
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You need new glasses. Buddy Walthers said "Freedom for Cuba Party of which
Oswald was member."He wasn't a member of that"party". He was a member of
the "Fair Play for Cuba Committee". Therefore your website takes another
hit. Oswald was never at Harlendale nor belonged to the party mentioned in
Walthers report.
tomnln
2008-07-01 02:47:56 UTC
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Post by tomnln
Post by Russ Burr
Post by Russ Burr
Post by tomnln
Post by Russ Burr
From Buddy Walthers Sheriff's REport
"Upon searching this house we found stacks of hand bills concerning
"Cuba for Freedom" advertising, seeking publicity and support for
Cuba. Also found was a set of metal file cabinets containing records
that appeared to be names and activities of Cuban sympathizers. All
of this evidence was confiscated and turned over to Captain Fritz of
the Dallas Police Department and Secret Service Officers at the City
Hall."
These were nothing more than Oswald's belongings.
And not the Paine's
Buddy Walthers also reported Oswald visiting a house full of
Anti-Castro Cubans on Harlendale Avenue REGULARLY.
SEE item 12>>> http://whokilledjfk.net/catch_of_the_day.htm
This is what the convincing document says to prove that Oswald was
hanging out with Anti-Castro Cubans in the weeks before the
assassination: "some Cubans had been having meetings on the weekends
and were possibly connected with the "Freedom for Cuba Party" of which
Oswald was a member." (WOW)
That's from the Sheriff Department, Supplementary Investigation Report
dated 11/23/63 and 11/26/63.
So Walthers never said he was attending this meeting but it's members
were possibly connected to a group that Oswald never belonged to. He
was a member of the "Hands of Cuba Committee".
It was Fair Play for Cuba Committee. Sorry for the mistake.
Russ
Post by Russ Burr
Perhaps you should read what you but own your web site.
Russ
Buddy Walthers Report does NOT say "Fair Play for Cuba Committee"
You "messed up" Again.
http://whokilledjfk.net/catch_of_the_day.htm
Read it & WEEP.
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You need new glasses. Buddy Walthers said "Freedom for Cuba Party of
whichOswald was member."He wasn't a member of that"party". He was a member
of the"Fair Play for Cuba Committee". Therefore your website takes another
hit.Oswald was never at Harlendale nor belonged to the party mentioned
inWalthers report.Buddy Walthers Report Proves you
WRONG>>>http://whokilledjfk.net/catch_of_the_day.htmSee item 12Further
study shows that that address housed "Anti-Castro Cubans".You're at a
GREAT Disadvantage not having the 26 volumes.

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yeuhd
2008-06-29 20:36:28 UTC
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Post by tomnln
Post by Russ Burr
From Buddy Walthers Sheriff's REport
"Upon searching this house we found stacks of hand bills concerning "Cuba
for Freedom" advertising, seeking publicity and support for Cuba. Also
found was a set of metal file cabinets containing records that appeared to
be names and activities of Cuban sympathizers. All of this evidence was
confiscated and turned over to Captain Fritz of the Dallas Police
Department and Secret Service Officers at the City Hall."
These were nothing more than Oswald's belongings.
And not the Paine's
Buddy Walthers also reported Oswald visiting a house full of Anti-Castro
Cubans on Harlendale Avenue REGULARLY.
SEE item 12>>>  http://whokilledjfk.net/catch_of_the_day.htm
Do you even read what you post? Nowhere does Walthers's report say
"regularly", which you even placed in capital letters to emphasize.
Walthers says only, "My informant stated that subject Oswald had been
to this house before."

By the way, the "informant" turned out to be Buddy Walthers's mother-
in-law, per the book "Brush with History: A Day in the Life of Deputy
E. R. Walthers", by Eric R. Tagg, p.45.

Vincent Bugliosi, "Reclaiming History", endnotes, p. 752-753:

We certainly know there has never been any evidence that Oswald had
any Fair Play for Cuba organization in Dallas. In fact, he was the
only member of the group even in New Orleans. Walthers’s (or his
informant’s) “Freedom For Cuba Party” seems to have been just
speculation, and, in fact, as conspiracy author Dick Russell points
out, “Free Cuba or Cuba Libre” being the mantra of anti-Castro groups
was the opposite end of the spectrum from Oswald’s Fair Play for Cuba
group (Russell, Man Who Knew Too Much, p.540). Note also that Walthers
said the group at 3128 Harlendale was only “possibly connected” with
Oswald’s group.

Actually, the group that met at 3126 (not 3128) Harlendale was the
Dallas chapter of three combined anti-Castro organizations: the SNFE
(Second National Front of Escambray), Alpha 66, and the MRP. The
address was the residence of Jorge Salazar, an anti-Castro Cuban
exile. The president of the combined Dallas group, Manuel Rodriguez
Orcarberro, had fought in Castro’s army and left Cuba for the United
States in 1960 when it became clear Castro was a Communist. An FBI
informant told the FBI three days after the assassination that
Rodriguez was violently anti-Kennedy, but Rodriguez, who confirmed the
meetings at the house on Harlendale, told the FBI he was actually an
admirer of Kennedy, being convinced he was a friend of the exiles and
a foe of Castro and Communism, and his group had even placed flowers
at the assassination site. Moreover, two other FBI informants who knew
Rodriguez said there was no evidence he had ever been anti-Kennedy.
(CD 1085u, pp.1–2, 4–5, FBI report of Dallas FBI agent Wallace R.
Heit-
man, May 26, 1964; see also CD 1085 and CD 853) And a source who was
in a top leadership position in Alpha 66 in Dallas told the Dallas FBI
in 1964 that Lee Harvey Oswald was not known to the group and had
never visited 3126 Harlendale. (SSCIA Record 157-10006-10124, January
30, 1976).
tomnln
2008-06-30 16:49:15 UTC
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BOTTOM POST;
Post by tomnln
Post by Russ Burr
From Buddy Walthers Sheriff's REport
"Upon searching this house we found stacks of hand bills concerning "Cuba
for Freedom" advertising, seeking publicity and support for Cuba. Also
found was a set of metal file cabinets containing records that appeared to
be names and activities of Cuban sympathizers. All of this evidence was
confiscated and turned over to Captain Fritz of the Dallas Police
Department and Secret Service Officers at the City Hall."
These were nothing more than Oswald's belongings.
And not the Paine's
Buddy Walthers also reported Oswald visiting a house full of Anti-Castro
Cubans on Harlendale Avenue REGULARLY.
SEE item 12>>> http://whokilledjfk.net/catch_of_the_day.htm
Do you even read what you post? Nowhere does Walthers's report say
"regularly", which you even placed in capital letters to emphasize.
Walthers says only, "My informant stated that subject Oswald had been
to this house before."

The Report swpeaks for itself.
********************

By the way, the "informant" turned out to be Buddy Walthers's mother-
in-law, per the book "Brush with History: A Day in the Life of Deputy
E. R. Walthers", by Eric R. Tagg, p.45.



Give Citation for Walther's Mother-in-Law.
Eric Tagg is NOT an Official Source.
*****************


Vincent Bugliosi, "Reclaiming History", endnotes, p. 752-753:

We certainly know there has never been any evidence that Oswald had
any Fair Play for Cuba organization in Dallas. In fact, he was the
only member of the group even in New Orleans. Walthers’s (or his
informant’s) “Freedom For Cuba Party” seems to have been just
speculation, and, in fact, as conspiracy author Dick Russell points
out, “Free Cuba or Cuba Libre” being the mantra of anti-Castro groups
was the opposite end of the spectrum from Oswald’s Fair Play for Cuba
group (Russell, Man Who Knew Too Much, p.540). Note also that Walthers
said the group at 3128 Harlendale was only “possibly connected” with
Oswald’s group.

Actually, the group that met at 3126 (not 3128) Harlendale was the
Dallas chapter of three combined anti-Castro organizations: the SNFE
(Second National Front of Escambray), Alpha 66, and the MRP. The
address was the residence of Jorge Salazar, an anti-Castro Cuban
exile. The president of the combined Dallas group, Manuel Rodriguez
Orcarberro, had fought in Castro’s army and left Cuba for the United
States in 1960 when it became clear Castro was a Communist. An FBI
informant told the FBI three days after the assassination that
Rodriguez was violently anti-Kennedy, but Rodriguez, who confirmed the
meetings at the house on Harlendale, told the FBI he was actually an
admirer of Kennedy, being convinced he was a friend of the exiles and
a foe of Castro and Communism, and his group had even placed flowers
at the assassination site. Moreover, two other FBI informants who knew
Rodriguez said there was no evidence he had ever been anti-Kennedy.
(CD 1085u, pp.1–2, 4–5, FBI report of Dallas FBI agent Wallace R.
Heit-
man, May 26, 1964; see also CD 1085 and CD 853) And a source who was
in a top leadership position in Alpha 66 in Dallas told the Dallas FBI
in 1964 that Lee Harvey Oswald was not known to the group and had
never visited 3126 Harlendale. (SSCIA Record 157-10006-10124, January
30, 1976).
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The Warren Comm ission had Walther's Report.

WHY isn't your Claim in the 26 volumes?

ps;
Your source above "CD1053" is only about Ruby and Boxer Barney Ross.

Your source above "CD-1085-u" makes NO reference to Oswald.
It DOES however admit to Anti-Castro Cubans at the Harlendale address.

If you have more from an official source I'd be happy to view it.

Until then, you're Busted AGAIN.

pps;
Bugloisi is ALSO NOT an official source.

You might do well to buy the 5 CD set of the Warren Commission Documents.

Then Bugloisi won't be able to Buffalo you.
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yeuhd
2008-07-01 01:32:26 UTC
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Post by tomnln
Post by yeuhd
By the way, the "informant" turned out to be Buddy Walthers's mother-
in-law, per the book "Brush with History: A Day in the Life of Deputy
E. R. Walthers", by Eric R. Tagg, p.45.
Give Citation for Walther's Mother-in-Law.
I just did.
Post by tomnln
ps;
Your source above "CD1053" is only about Ruby and Boxer Barney Ross.
What are you talking about? I made no reference or citation to CD 1053.
t***@hotmail.com
2008-06-29 15:21:45 UTC
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 From Buddy Walthers Sheriff's REport
"Upon searching this house we found stacks of hand bills concerning
"Cuba for Freedom" advertising, seeking publicity and support for Cuba.
Also found was a set of metal file cabinets containing records that
appeared to be names and activities of Cuban sympathizers. All of this
evidence was confiscated and turned over to Captain Fritz of the Dallas
Police Department and Secret Service Officers at the City Hall."
These were nothing more than Oswald's belongings.
And not the Paine's
And how do you know that the cabinet was Oswald's and not the Paines?
It seems more likely to me that a cabinet, which is furniture, would
be the Paines.
Russ Burr
2008-06-29 17:00:34 UTC
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Post by Russ Burr
From Buddy Walthers Sheriff's REport
"Upon searching this house we found stacks of hand bills concerning
"Cuba for Freedom" advertising, seeking publicity and support for Cuba.
Also found was a set of metal file cabinets containing records that
appeared to be names and activities of Cuban sympathizers. All of this
evidence was confiscated and turned over to Captain Fritz of the Dallas
Police Department and Secret Service Officers at the City Hall."
These were nothing more than Oswald's belongings.
And not the Paine's
And how do you know that the cabinet was Oswald's and not the Paines?
It seems more likely to me that a cabinet, which is furniture, would
be the Paines.
Probably because Marina through Ruth told the DPD that it was Lee's.

Russ
tomnln
2008-06-30 03:46:32 UTC
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Post by t***@hotmail.com
Post by Russ Burr
From Buddy Walthers Sheriff's REport
"Upon searching this house we found stacks of hand bills concerning
"Cuba for Freedom" advertising, seeking publicity and support for Cuba.
Also found was a set of metal file cabinets containing records that
appeared to be names and activities of Cuban sympathizers. All of this
evidence was confiscated and turned over to Captain Fritz of the Dallas
Police Department and Secret Service Officers at the City Hall."
These were nothing more than Oswald's belongings.
And not the Paine's
And how do you know that the cabinet was Oswald's and not the Paines?
It seems more likely to me that a cabinet, which is furniture, would
be the Paines.
Probably because Marina through Ruth told the DPD that it was Lee's.
Russ
Please qoute Ruth Paine saying THAT???

What Volume???
What Page???

You REALLY need to read the 26 volumes Russ.

"Probably" don't cut it.
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t***@hotmail.com
2008-06-29 19:53:57 UTC
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 From Buddy Walthers Sheriff's REport
"Upon searching this house we found stacks of hand bills concerning
"Cuba for Freedom" advertising, seeking publicity and support for Cuba.
Also found was a set of metal file cabinets containing records that
appeared to be names and activities of Cuban sympathizers. All of this
evidence was confiscated and turned over to Captain Fritz of the Dallas
Police Department and Secret Service Officers at the City Hall."
These were nothing more than Oswald's belongings.
And not the Paine's
Questions for you -
Why did Oswald complete index cards on "Cuban Sympathisers?'
Where did he get his information from? What meetings etc did he attend
where this information might have been collected?
Who were the people on the cards - were they investigated as
associates of Oswalds?
What has happened to these index cards?
Are these cards listed as exhibits in the WC report?

Mmmm, it seems quite clear that this "evidence" was destroyed. You
then gotta ask why? The most obvious answer is that the cards
represented evidence of some type of surveillance program which the
authorities did not exposed. Oswald, supposedly an itinerant "nut"
would not have been responsible for the nicely organised index cards,
more likely it was the Paines working as government operatives or
informants.

Please ask more questions, I know it is scary, but it is the only way
to arrive at the truth.
Anthony Marsh
2008-07-01 01:40:32 UTC
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Post by Russ Burr
From Buddy Walthers Sheriff's REport
"Upon searching this house we found stacks of hand bills concerning
"Cuba for Freedom" advertising, seeking publicity and support for Cuba.
Also found was a set of metal file cabinets containing records that
appeared to be names and activities of Cuban sympathizers. All of this
evidence was confiscated and turned over to Captain Fritz of the Dallas
Police Department and Secret Service Officers at the City Hall."
These were nothing more than Oswald's belongings.
And not the Paine's
Questions for you -
Why did Oswald complete index cards on "Cuban Sympathisers?'
Where did he get his information from? What meetings etc did he attend
where this information might have been collected?
Who were the people on the cards - were they investigated as
associates of Oswalds?
What has happened to these index cards?
Are these cards listed as exhibits in the WC report?
Please. That would be like they did a real investigation.
Post by t***@hotmail.com
Mmmm, it seems quite clear that this "evidence" was destroyed. You
then gotta ask why? The most obvious answer is that the cards
represented evidence of some type of surveillance program which the
authorities did not exposed. Oswald, supposedly an itinerant "nut"
would not have been responsible for the nicely organised index cards,
more likely it was the Paines working as government operatives or
informants.
Someone just posted the evidence photo which shows the index cards in a
metal box.

Just because the names are Hispanic does not mean they are Cuban
sympathizers. Oswald was spying on the Cuban exiles training for the
second invasion to puff up his bona fides to get into Cuba.
Post by t***@hotmail.com
Please ask more questions, I know it is scary, but it is the only way
to arrive at the truth.
yeuhd
2008-06-29 20:08:34 UTC
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Photos of Oswald's belongings confiscated from the Paine residence:

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tomnln
2008-06-30 03:55:26 UTC
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http://www.maryferrell.org/wiki/images/e/e9/Photo_wcd102_044.jpg
http://www.maryferrell.org/wiki/images/1/1e/Photo_wcd102_055.jpg
Are you claiming that those photos represent EVERYTHING confiscated from
Oswald's belongings???
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