The Treasure Trove of Secret Files

[Travis Banger]

[Under the delusion that he is debating with Tony Marsh, Big Dog:]

"I grasp that you have convinced yourself there is a treasure trove of
secret files that would solve the assassination once and for all if only
you could gain access to them. I also grasp that is nothing more than your
fantasy."

One more time, we agree 100%. That "treasure trove" is pure fantasy. Not
mine, though.

The number of secret files that I need to be released to solve the case
is:

ZERO, NONE, NINGUNO, ZILCH, THE EMPTY SET.

For the 110th. time: The fundamental base for the JFK Numbers project is
evidence that is:

(1) Readily available (3D laser measurements of The Plaza: got it).

or

(2) Petitionable (the most famous and controversial X-rays since Roentgen)

and

(3) Can be uploaded to my/your/our web server.

If they say: "Ramon, for 24 hours you can get ANY files, from the National
Archives, CIA, SS, etc. Which one would you pick?"

My reply:

NONE OF THEM. I don't give a flying fig about those "secret files" that
keep the CRAPAs, JFK Factoids, Mary Ferrell Must Be Spinning in Her Grave
Foundation and Tony Marshes of the world awake at night.

-Ramon
JFK Numbers

ps: When was science present in the case? If the scientists are hand
picked (HSCA FPP, any of the 12 Fraudulent Studies) it is not science.

[Piotr Mancini]

Post by Travis Banger
[Under the delusion that he is debating with Tony Marsh, Big Dog:]
"I grasp that you have convinced yourself there is a treasure trove of
secret files that would solve the assassination once and for all if only
you could gain access to them. I also grasp that is nothing more than your
fantasy."
One more time, we agree 100%. That "treasure trove" is pure fantasy. Not
mine, though.
The number of secret files that I need to be released to solve the case
ZERO, NONE, NINGUNO, ZILCH, THE EMPTY SET.
For the 110th. time: The fundamental base for the JFK Numbers project is
(1) Readily available (3D laser measurements of The Plaza: got it).
or
(2) Petitionable (the most famous and controversial X-rays since Roentgen)
and
(3) Can be uploaded to my/your/our web server.
If they say: "Ramon, for 24 hours you can get ANY files, from the National
Archives, CIA, SS, etc. Which one would you pick?"
NONE OF THEM. I don't give a flying fig about those "secret files" that
keep the CRAPAs, JFK Factoids, Mary Ferrell Must Be Spinning in Her Grave
Foundation and Tony Marshes of the world awake at night.
-Ramon
JFK Numbers
ps: When was science present in the case? If the scientists are hand
picked (HSCA FPP, any of the 12 Fraudulent Studies) it is not science.

THE FAB FOUR

Four files are required in order to solve the case to the satisfaction of
All People. They have filenames and everything.

Architectural Aspect (SBT/MBT):
(1) Full Dealey-Plaza.PTS

Forensic Aspect (Fatal Shot):
(2) JFK Pre-Mortem Lateral.DICOM
(3) JFK Autopsy Lateral.DICOM
(4) JFK Autopsy Anterior-Posterior.DICOM

Jason: Back when you answered questions, I asked you and Sienzant/Zircon:

"What is your position about obtaining those 4 files and placing them in a
public web server? Giving them to their only legitimate owner (The
People)?"

Guys: How is your reply coming along? Can we expect a properly worded
response sometime this year? This decade?

Naturally, there are a couple more files.

(a) Accurate model of the limo, obtained from the Official Blueprints
(which have never been used, rendering all studies so far fraudulent) and
other sources. Some of you (*) have declared the limo dimensions to be
irrelevant in a case that involves 3D (aka reality) dimensions.

(b) The Zapruder film and related images should be subjected to the
dramatic improvements made possible today by science and technology.

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLof8jFzqbDPIZ3FVW4DFIAndxp6RGl44q

Again, they must be given to their rightful owners: The People. After all,
the Zapruder descendants have been generously compensated at the tune of a
$16 million check, courtesy of We The Taxpayer (**).

As we can see here:

The most recently restored copy is only made available to productions that
uphold the official version.

-Ramon
JFK Numbers

ps: These are the files available right now:

Excellent to get started:
http://www.dealey-plaza.org/this-government-as-promised/pbs-nova/

Useless to get started:
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0BydXldbRY__vMTFBOVAycG1aWWM

Obviously, better ones are needed.

(*) IIRC it was Zircon, who holds a number of confusing degrees, knows all
about measuring pyramids in Egypt but nothing about Limos, Craniums or
Plazas.

(**) The government/whoever can keep the film, for 2 reasons:

(a) ACCURATE, digital copies are better.
(b) I cannot upload film to my/your/our webserver

[Anthony Marsh]

Post by Travis Banger
[Under the delusion that he is debating with Tony Marsh, Big Dog:]
"I grasp that you have convinced yourself there is a treasure trove of
secret files that would solve the assassination once and for all if only
you could gain access to them. I also grasp that is nothing more than your
fantasy."
One more time, we agree 100%. That "treasure trove" is pure fantasy. Not
mine, though.
The number of secret files that I need to be released to solve the case
ZERO, NONE, NINGUNO, ZILCH, THE EMPTY SET.

Because Helms destroyed all the files. And that's OK with you. I filed an
FOIA/Privacy Act trequest for my father's records and the NSA said they
had no files on him.

Well guess ho has the files? I do. I found the records that my father
kept. When he died I immediately went yo his apartment and gathered up his
papers. It took the CIA 6 hours to send up a sweep team from Washinton to
search his apartment and they found nothing. So lazy.

Post by Travis Banger
For the 110th. time: The fundamental base for the JFK Numbers project is
(1) Readily available (3D laser measurements of The Plaza: got it).
or
(2) Petitionable (the most famous and controversial X-rays since Roentgen)
and
(3) Can be uploaded to my/your/our web server.
If they say: "Ramon, for 24 hours you can get ANY files, from the National
Archives, CIA, SS, etc. Which one would you pick?"
NONE OF THEM. I don't give a flying fig about those "secret files" that
keep the CRAPAs, JFK Factoids, Mary Ferrell Must Be Spinning in Her Grave
Foundation and Tony Marshes of the world awake at night.
-Ramon
JFK Numbers
ps: When was science present in the case? If the scientists are hand
picked (HSCA FPP, any of the 12 Fraudulent Studies) it is not science.

OK, so you don;t want ro know the truth.
Maybe somebody confessed and they burned the file. But somebody kept the
recordng? Ever hear of the Watergate tapes?
Ever hear of the Trump tapes where he confesses?

[John Corbett]

Post by Travis Banger
[Under the delusion that he is debating with Tony Marsh, Big Dog:]
"I grasp that you have convinced yourself there is a treasure trove of
secret files that would solve the assassination once and for all if only
you could gain access to them. I also grasp that is nothing more than your
fantasy."
One more time, we agree 100%. That "treasure trove" is pure fantasy. Not
mine, though.
The number of secret files that I need to be released to solve the case
ZERO, NONE, NINGUNO, ZILCH, THE EMPTY SET.
For the 110th. time: The fundamental base for the JFK Numbers project is
(1) Readily available (3D laser measurements of The Plaza: got it).
or
(2) Petitionable (the most famous and controversial X-rays since Roentgen)
and
(3) Can be uploaded to my/your/our web server.
If they say: "Ramon, for 24 hours you can get ANY files, from the National
Archives, CIA, SS, etc. Which one would you pick?"
NONE OF THEM. I don't give a flying fig about those "secret files" that
keep the CRAPAs, JFK Factoids, Mary Ferrell Must Be Spinning in Her Grave
Foundation and Tony Marshes of the world awake at night.

Just what is it that you are whining for?

[[e-mail]]

Post by John Corbett
Just what is it that you are whining for?

There you go:

http://jfknumbers-forum.org/The_Power_of_Petitions

That is just a rough draft, work in progress -as usual- and the reason for
the rental of my/your/our new VPS server.

I was planning to add the petitions collected in this Crappy Joint, Filled
with Disreputable Elements and Assorted Clueless Dweebs, but so far the
only one that qualifies -aka being RATIONAL- is by Marsh:

"Release all the files!"

So Tony: Much luck with that one so far? How about asking for something
that is actually ACHIEVABLE and/or makes a DIFFERENCE?

Here's one: Demanding the Notable Doctors to put aside their differences,
stop the bullshit and sign the letter to Paul Kirk and Sweet Caroline,
asking for permission to bring a top of the line, leading edge (*) film
digitizer into the Sacred Room. They will make history for rescuing the
most famous and controversial X-rays since Roentgen from oblivion.

-Ramon The Perpetual Whiner
JFK Numbers

(*) In fact , the brand is "Vidar Edge", already certified by the National
Archives, specs here:

http://www.jfknumbers.org/ich-bin-ein-berliner/ [Get the ZIP file]

[John Corbett]

Post by ***@gmail.com

Post by John Corbett
Just what is it that you are whining for?

http://jfknumbers-forum.org/The_Power_of_Petitions
That is just a rough draft, work in progress -as usual- and the reason for
the rental of my/your/our new VPS server.

All of your projects seem to be works in progress. You never seem to
accomplish anything.

Post by ***@gmail.com
I was planning to add the petitions collected in this Crappy Joint, Filled
with Disreputable Elements and Assorted Clueless Dweebs, but so far the
"Release all the files!"

I thought you just told us you don't need any files. Your exact words
were:

"The number of secret files that I need to be released to solve the case
is:

ZERO, NONE, NINGUNO, ZILCH, THE EMPTY SET."

Post by ***@gmail.com
So Tony: Much luck with that one so far? How about asking for something
that is actually ACHIEVABLE and/or makes a DIFFERENCE?

Nothing you are doing is making a difference.

Post by ***@gmail.com
Here's one: Demanding the Notable Doctors to put aside their differences,
stop the bullshit and sign the letter to Paul Kirk and Sweet Caroline,
asking for permission to bring a top of the line, leading edge (*) film
digitizer into the Sacred Room. They will make history for rescuing the
most famous and controversial X-rays since Roentgen from oblivion.

You must think they care about what you are trying to do. They probably
care less about your snipe hunt than those of us on this newsgroup if that
is even possible.