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Two Extraterrestrials Walk Into a Bar...
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Piotr Mancini
2020-09-06 19:36:52 UTC
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A very intelligent being arrives to this planet, after being summoned to
study The Case. Spends days collecting information.

Then, everybody congregates and are informed about the ultimate finding,
which is announced much earlier than anybody imagined. Fears abound:
"Maybe it is undecidable?"

- "Did you analyze the bullet trajectory and found the definite solution
to the SBT/MBT?"

http://www.dealey-plaza.org/this-government-as-promised/SBT-MBT-Tools/RMT-for-Dummies/

- "Did you subject the Zapruder film and the other film evidence to the
dramatic advances in technology achieved in film restoration?"

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLof8jFzqbDPIZ3FVW4DFIAndxp6RGl44q

- "Did you process the pre-mortem and autopsy X-rays, ascertaining their
authenticity (or lack thereof)?"



- "Was an accurate 3D model of the victim's cranium extracted?"

- "Were there simulations based on that cranium and the Z-film done, for
the first time in history (*) using the fundamental tool that science
and technology has today, to study forensic cases that involve cranium
and cerebrum ballistics?

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLof8jFzqbDPJIiEREC5GipycH-M6OsSP3

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0BydXldbRY__vRUtNWTNTQTZSQzg

- Was the train of movement carefully simulated, determining once and for
all whether the victim was pulled or pushed?

"Meet The Man Who May Have Solved the JFK Murder Case, and Doesn't Even
Know It"

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.assassination.jfk/4b42RCsHo_Q/7dpTOu84CwAJ

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0BydXldbRY__vM0lFMHFiWF96bE0

[Masses, expectant in breathless anticipation]

"No, all that is too much work: we extraterrestrials take the fastest,
most expedient route. When solving the Rubik's cube, nothing other than
God's Algorithm is good enough."

"The reason is much simpler: one side believes in their case, their
position and thus in themselves. The other does not. It is unanimous: No
exceptions were found."

Q.E.D.

-Ramon
JFK Numbers

(*) Actually, the only time when FEA/CFD techniques have been used is this:



That MP4 file belongs in the history books. If we had any responsible
media or at least if people like Jeff Morley (or Jim DiEugenio) understood
the concept of investigative journalism.
Anthony Marsh
2020-09-08 02:06:37 UTC
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Post by Piotr Mancini
A very intelligent being arrives to this planet, after being summoned to
study The Case. Spends days collecting information.
Then, everybody congregates and are informed about the ultimate finding,
"Maybe it is undecidable?"
- "Did you analyze the bullet trajectory and found the definite solution
to the SBT/MBT?"
Well, I hate to disappoint you, but I believe that some type of Single
Bullet Theory is probable, but it would not be exactly like all the SBTs
presented by all the WC defenders. One bullet could hit JFK and then
Connally, but is has a lot of damage to do and could not come out in
perfect condition.
Post by Piotr Mancini
http://www.dealey-plaza.org/this-government-as-promised/SBT-MBT-Tools/RMT-for-Dummies/
- "Did you subject the Zapruder film and the other film evidence to the
dramatic advances in technology achieved in film restoration?"
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLof8jFzqbDPIZ3FVW4DFIAndxp6RGl44q
- "Did you process the pre-mortem and autopsy X-rays, ascertaining their
authenticity (or lack thereof)?"
http://youtu.be/ZXrlpAy4Ios
- "Was an accurate 3D model of the victim's cranium extracted?"
- "Were there simulations based on that cranium and the Z-film done, for
the first time in history (*) using the fundamental tool that science
and technology has today, to study forensic cases that involve cranium
and cerebrum ballistics?
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLof8jFzqbDPJIiEREC5GipycH-M6OsSP3
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0BydXldbRY__vRUtNWTNTQTZSQzg
- Was the train of movement carefully simulated, determining once and for
all whether the victim was pulled or pushed?
"Meet The Man Who May Have Solved the JFK Murder Case, and Doesn't Even
Know It"
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.assassination.jfk/4b42RCsHo_Q/7dpTOu84CwAJ
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0BydXldbRY__vM0lFMHFiWF96bE0
[Masses, expectant in breathless anticipation]
"No, all that is too much work: we extraterrestrials take the fastest,
most expedient route. When solving the Rubik's cube, nothing other than
God's Algorithm is good enough."
"The reason is much simpler: one side believes in their case, their
position and thus in themselves. The other does not. It is unanimous: No
exceptions were found."
Q.E.D.
-Ramon
JFK Numbers
http://youtu.be/TopJvPaHBBw
That MP4 file belongs in the history books. If we had any responsible
media or at least if people like Jeff Morley (or Jim DiEugenio) understood
the concept of investigative journalism.
Piotr Mancini
2020-09-09 00:03:20 UTC
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Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by Piotr Mancini
A very intelligent being arrives to this planet, after being summoned to
study The Case. Spends days collecting information.
Then, everybody congregates and are informed about the ultimate finding,
"Maybe it is undecidable?"
- "Did you analyze the bullet trajectory and found the definite solution
to the SBT/MBT?"
Well, I hate to disappoint you, but I believe that some type of Single
Bullet Theory is probable, but it would not be exactly like all the SBTs
presented by all the WC defenders. One bullet could hit JFK and then
Connally, but is has a lot of damage to do and could not come out in
perfect condition.
I am the one who is disappointed and really sorry for you, Tony. You have
lost the ability to:

- Read
- Comprehend
- Commit to memory what you kinda read.
- Reach inescapable conclusions (such as: "We need a better Zapruder!")

There are 3 possibilities:

(1) The SBT/MBT was possible and most likely happened (in what Z-frame?
Good question). Nobody knows, however, since the files used in all studies
are secret, Zapruder film included (*). Z Axis certified nothing.

(2) There is no way, the SBT/MBT was physically and mathematically
impossible. Nobody knows, however, since the files used in all studies
are secret, Zapruder film included (*).

(3) It is undecidable, a matter of choosing the right angles (pun
intended), etc. that produce the preordained results. In that case the
conclusion reached by Mr. Spock applies. Neither Myers nor anybody else
who claims to support the official version actually believes in their own
position and most tragically, in themselves.

Let me put this in caps, go get your reading glasses:

WE ARE PUTTING THIS PROBLEM ON THE DESKS AND COMPUTERS OF THE BEST
PEOPLE IN THE PLANET.

-Ramon The Builder of the Baseball Park
JFK Numbers

(*) And YOU people, NOBODY realized that all studies so far are fraudulent.

"Millions Were Watching And Nobody Saw Anything"
https://archive.org/details/1-millions-were-watching-and-nobody-saw-antyhing

Click here and READ WHAT HAS BEEN POSTED 100 TIMES:

"Web Based GUI Tool No. 1 failed - Time to bring the Big Guns" (staring
our very own, Tony Marsh!)

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.assassination.jfk/3ZAxNS0OilQ/WNtTDpfWBAAJ
Hank Sienzant (AKA Joe Zircon)
2020-09-08 02:07:00 UTC
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Post by Piotr Mancini
A very intelligent being arrives to this planet, after being summoned to
study The Case. Spends days collecting information.
Days? How quickly does this very intelligent being absorb information?
Does he utilize the source materials, or the secondary sources, like the
books by conspiracy authors?
Post by Piotr Mancini
Then, everybody congregates and are informed about the ultimate finding,
"Maybe it is undecidable?"
- "Did you analyze the bullet trajectory and found the definite solution
to the SBT/MBT?"
http://www.dealey-plaza.org/this-government-as-promised/SBT-MBT-Tools/RMT-for-Dummies/
- "Did you subject the Zapruder film and the other film evidence to the
dramatic advances in technology achieved in film restoration?"
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLof8jFzqbDPIZ3FVW4DFIAndxp6RGl44q
- "Did you process the pre-mortem and autopsy X-rays, ascertaining their
authenticity (or lack thereof)?"
http://youtu.be/ZXrlpAy4Ios
- "Was an accurate 3D model of the victim's cranium extracted?"
- "Were there simulations based on that cranium and the Z-film done, for
the first time in history (*) using the fundamental tool that science
and technology has today, to study forensic cases that involve cranium
and cerebrum ballistics?
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLof8jFzqbDPJIiEREC5GipycH-M6OsSP3
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0BydXldbRY__vRUtNWTNTQTZSQzg
- Was the train of movement carefully simulated, determining once and for
all whether the victim was pulled or pushed?
"Meet The Man Who May Have Solved the JFK Murder Case, and Doesn't Even
Know It"
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.assassination.jfk/4b42RCsHo_Q/7dpTOu84CwAJ
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0BydXldbRY__vM0lFMHFiWF96bE0
[Masses, expectant in breathless anticipation]
"No, all that is too much work: we extraterrestrials take the fastest,
most expedient route. When solving the Rubik's cube, nothing other than
God's Algorithm is good enough."
"The reason is much simpler: one side believes in their case, their
position and thus in themselves. The other does not. It is unanimous: No
exceptions were found."
So he doesn't study the case at all. He studies the two sides, puts them
on equivalent standing, and assumes both sides are working from factual
information and reasoning properly. Curious as to why he would make those
assumptions. One side works from the source materials. The other side
discards much of the source materials and makes assumptions to fill the
vacuum they've created that then become part of their accepted canon - you
know, like the Harper fragment was found behind the limo.

Hank
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