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Contreras account debunked
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John McAdams
2021-02-24 02:24:02 UTC
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It always has seemed reasonable plausible to me that Oswald was
seeking leftists to help him get his visa to Cuba.

If the logic here is sound (a gossip columnist would not be hundreds
of miles away from the town the gossip of which he was reporting), the
story is debunked.

.John
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Steve M. Galbraith
2021-02-25 17:41:30 UTC
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It always has seemed reasonable plausible to me that Oswald was
seeking leftists to help him get his visa to Cuba.
If the logic here is sound (a gossip columnist would not be hundreds
of miles away from the town the gossip of which he was reporting), the
story is debunked.
.John
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Duran said she told the Cuban Consul Azcue that she was "suspicious" about
the documents Oswald showed her, about their authenticity. And both said
there was a shouting match between Oswald and Azcue when he was denied the
transit visa. Azcue thew him out saying "The Revolution doesn't need
people like you!"

So they had doubts about him (phony documents?), he creates a scene, Azcue
kicks him out, and then they process his application and send it to
Havana? They didn't just trash it? As in: "He's a nut, don't send the
application..."

I've always found that very strange. What caused them to change their
minds about him?

Someone vouched for him or what? Or was this just bureaucracies passing
documents on?
Steve M. Galbraith
2021-02-26 02:13:48 UTC
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It always has seemed reasonable plausible to me that Oswald was
seeking leftists to help him get his visa to Cuba.
If the logic here is sound (a gossip columnist would not be hundreds
of miles away from the town the gossip of which he was reporting), the
story is debunked.
.John
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http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/home.htm
Duran said she told the Cuban Consul Azcue that she was "suspicious" about
the documents Oswald showed her, about their authenticity. And both said
there was a shouting match between Oswald and Azcue when he was denied the
transit visa. Azcue thew him out saying "The Revolution doesn't need
people like you!"
So they had doubts about him (phony documents?), he creates a scene, Azcue
kicks him out, and then they process his application and send it to
Havana? They didn't just trash it? As in: "He's a nut, don't send the
application..."
I've always found that very strange. What caused them to change their
minds about him?
Someone vouched for him or what? Or was this just bureaucracies passing
documents on?
From Gus Russo: An "FBI interview with Contreras established that he
"belonged to a clandestine pro-Castro revolutionary group..[which] visited
Cuba and met Castro and Raul... The group allowed Oswald to accompany them
the rest of the day [presumably Saturday], that night (at a group
safehouse), and part of the next day."

"When pressed for details of what the group discussed with Oswald,
Contreras refused to answer. He was a no-show for a scheduled follow-up
interview."

Quoting Posner from the Anthony Summers account: "They [i.e., Contreras
and his group] also personally knew consul Azce and promised to put in a
good word for Oswald. But later that night, when Contreras spoke to Azcue
and a Cuban intelligence agent, he was told to break off contacts with
Oswald as the embassy was suspicious he might be a provocation from
American intelligence. Oswald supposedly came back to Contreras and his
friends and even spent the night at their apartment, most likely Sunday,
September 29. They told him the Cuban consul would not change his mind.
But when he left in the morning he was still begging for help to get to
Cuba. Contreras and his friends did hear from him again."

Problem is that in a later interview Contreras said he was sure that the
meeting with Oswald took place in 1959 or 1960. Oswald was still in the
USSR at that time.
Anthony Marsh
2021-02-26 02:58:53 UTC
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It always has seemed reasonable plausible to me that Oswald was
seeking leftists to help him get his visa to Cuba.
If the logic here is sound (a gossip col
Not bloody likely. Oswald was a loner. He couldn't get anyone to join his
FPCC chapter and had to hire temp help workers to pass out his flyers.

umnist would not be hundreds
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of miles away from the town the gossip of which he was reporting), the
story is debunked.
.John
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