Greg Jaynes
2007-12-21 20:41:22 UTC
After Novemeber, I just kind of got caught up or lightly
interested in discussing issues mostly superfically.
I didn't want to get roiled into any debate. I didn't want
to read another BS assassination book. I didn't want
to come to Dallas and dig out my files for the sake
of answering someone who wouldn't appreciate it or
accept it anyway.
So here I was, fat dumb and happy and casually
commented that that there never was a big time
Mafia presence in Dallas. Of course I know how
assassination buffs will look at red and insist it is
blue but I was a little surprised that Martin Shackleford
comes out of no where and lays it out that I am not a
credible source about it and has the stones to use Jim
Gatewood as a source to contradict me.
I have already impeached Gatewood as a credible source
of factual information. I could go on but I'm just not going to
do it mainly because I don't give a rats ass about debating
over him or his books or his claim to be a historian.
But now that I am in Dallas and have access to my very
large set of Dallas files and resources I will go ahead and
offer a couple of sources supporting my innocent claim that
there was no big time Mafia presence in Dallas.
I can provide more but I'm having to type this and what would be
the point? Buffs call red blue anyway. This is for anyone who
read the Marcello thread and is rational.
OFFICER SAYS SYNDICATED CRIME
DOUBTFUL IN DALLAS -
Dallas Morning News October 8, 1963
By John Gedde
Detective Capt. W.P. Gannaway gave three
reasons Monday for Dallas being a prime
plum but forbidden fruit for Cosa Nostra
type syndicated crime.
Capt. Gannaway, head of the Dallas Police
Departments Vice, narcotics and intelligence
bureaus, credited the police force, the
district attorneys office and good juries
for keeping big time crime out of the city.
Altough a suspected Cosa Nostra kingpin lives
in North Dallas, there has been no major
attempt by a syndicate to move into the
city in "10 or 12 years". At that time,
Gannaway said, Chicago hoods had their plans
foiled by Dallas officers.
Capt. Gannaway said that there is crime of
the type which normally feeds syndicates--
prostitution, drugs, gambling -- but its
manner of survival proves it is not well
organized in Dallas.
"We've made cases too manytimes," said
Gannaway. "They (Mafia) know we can do
it." Again he credited an "efficient"
district attorneys office and the juries
who convict.
"The climate of Dallas is unsuccessful for
organized crime - call it what you want to",
he said. Cosa Nostra is a new term for the
veteran detective, he added but it is
probably the same as the Mafia or Black Hand.
The Dallas man {who} was captured at that
meeting (Appalachin) is under periodic
surveilance. Capt. Gannaway said there
may be members or organized crime in
Dallas practicing their trade elsewhere,
but not in Dallas.
COSA NOSTRA ACTIVITY LIMITED IN TEXAS,
CRIME FIGHTERS SAY - Dallas Morning News
Sept 15, 1965 - Mike Quinn
Excerpts:
The Southwest in general and Texas in particular
have been given a "low priority" as far as federal
investigation and surveillance are concerned in the
crackdown on organized crime and racketeering in
the United States.
It was learned Tuesday that law enforcement officials
are interested from a national crime stand point
primarily in only two men in Texas who are believed
to have definite ties to the Costa Nostra crime
syndicate.
One of them is said to live in Dallas, the other
in Houston.
Informed sources indicated that Cosa Nostra, in it's
tie-ups across the land, basically skips Texas except
for the Dallas and Houston contacts.
The term "low priority" refers to the amount of Cosa
Nostra activity as well as the amount of counter
federal-local law enforcement activity which is
required to meet racketeering efforts.
The Texas area is not one of the more active areas as
far as national crime is concerned.
-------------------------
'ORGANIZED' CRIME IN DALLAS?
Dallas Morning News July 8, 1969
by Mike Kingston Editorial staff writer
{Kingston questions Tim Timmins, Asst.
U.S. Attorney and chief federal prosecutor
in Dallas and North Texas.
KINGSTON - There is a great deal of discussion
about "organized" crime locally and nationally.
Just what do you mean when you discuss
"organized" crime?
TIMMINS - Ordinarily when people think of
organized crime they are thinking in terms of
the criminal operations sometimes referred to
as the Mafia, Coda Nostra or
"The Organization."
KINGSTON - Does there seem to be a structured
criminal organization in Dallas and the North
Texas area, or a loose confederation of groups?
TIMMINS - There does appear to ba an organization
of criminals to the extent that there are full-time
burglers and narcotic dealers residing here who
sometimes associate in a loosley knit manner.
KINGSTON - Is the Mafia or Cosa Nostra influence
identifiable in local operations?
TIMMINS - During my eight years with the U.S.
Attorneys Office in Dallas, I have seen no
evidence pf Mafia operations or influence in the
North Texas area.
There is one man who resides in Dallas who attended
the Appalachia , N.Y., meeting in November, 1957,
which 53 underworld leaders were known to attend.
If the Mafia or Cosa Nostra (the terms are synonymous)
has influence in the North Texas area, it is submerged
and not discerned by federal investigative agencies.
...... Dallas remains substantially free of the
pervading and corrupting influence of organized crime.
----------------
Respectfully,
Greg Jaynes
interested in discussing issues mostly superfically.
I didn't want to get roiled into any debate. I didn't want
to read another BS assassination book. I didn't want
to come to Dallas and dig out my files for the sake
of answering someone who wouldn't appreciate it or
accept it anyway.
So here I was, fat dumb and happy and casually
commented that that there never was a big time
Mafia presence in Dallas. Of course I know how
assassination buffs will look at red and insist it is
blue but I was a little surprised that Martin Shackleford
comes out of no where and lays it out that I am not a
credible source about it and has the stones to use Jim
Gatewood as a source to contradict me.
I have already impeached Gatewood as a credible source
of factual information. I could go on but I'm just not going to
do it mainly because I don't give a rats ass about debating
over him or his books or his claim to be a historian.
But now that I am in Dallas and have access to my very
large set of Dallas files and resources I will go ahead and
offer a couple of sources supporting my innocent claim that
there was no big time Mafia presence in Dallas.
I can provide more but I'm having to type this and what would be
the point? Buffs call red blue anyway. This is for anyone who
read the Marcello thread and is rational.
OFFICER SAYS SYNDICATED CRIME
DOUBTFUL IN DALLAS -
Dallas Morning News October 8, 1963
By John Gedde
Detective Capt. W.P. Gannaway gave three
reasons Monday for Dallas being a prime
plum but forbidden fruit for Cosa Nostra
type syndicated crime.
Capt. Gannaway, head of the Dallas Police
Departments Vice, narcotics and intelligence
bureaus, credited the police force, the
district attorneys office and good juries
for keeping big time crime out of the city.
Altough a suspected Cosa Nostra kingpin lives
in North Dallas, there has been no major
attempt by a syndicate to move into the
city in "10 or 12 years". At that time,
Gannaway said, Chicago hoods had their plans
foiled by Dallas officers.
Capt. Gannaway said that there is crime of
the type which normally feeds syndicates--
prostitution, drugs, gambling -- but its
manner of survival proves it is not well
organized in Dallas.
"We've made cases too manytimes," said
Gannaway. "They (Mafia) know we can do
it." Again he credited an "efficient"
district attorneys office and the juries
who convict.
"The climate of Dallas is unsuccessful for
organized crime - call it what you want to",
he said. Cosa Nostra is a new term for the
veteran detective, he added but it is
probably the same as the Mafia or Black Hand.
The Dallas man {who} was captured at that
meeting (Appalachin) is under periodic
surveilance. Capt. Gannaway said there
may be members or organized crime in
Dallas practicing their trade elsewhere,
but not in Dallas.
COSA NOSTRA ACTIVITY LIMITED IN TEXAS,
CRIME FIGHTERS SAY - Dallas Morning News
Sept 15, 1965 - Mike Quinn
Excerpts:
The Southwest in general and Texas in particular
have been given a "low priority" as far as federal
investigation and surveillance are concerned in the
crackdown on organized crime and racketeering in
the United States.
It was learned Tuesday that law enforcement officials
are interested from a national crime stand point
primarily in only two men in Texas who are believed
to have definite ties to the Costa Nostra crime
syndicate.
One of them is said to live in Dallas, the other
in Houston.
Informed sources indicated that Cosa Nostra, in it's
tie-ups across the land, basically skips Texas except
for the Dallas and Houston contacts.
The term "low priority" refers to the amount of Cosa
Nostra activity as well as the amount of counter
federal-local law enforcement activity which is
required to meet racketeering efforts.
The Texas area is not one of the more active areas as
far as national crime is concerned.
-------------------------
'ORGANIZED' CRIME IN DALLAS?
Dallas Morning News July 8, 1969
by Mike Kingston Editorial staff writer
{Kingston questions Tim Timmins, Asst.
U.S. Attorney and chief federal prosecutor
in Dallas and North Texas.
KINGSTON - There is a great deal of discussion
about "organized" crime locally and nationally.
Just what do you mean when you discuss
"organized" crime?
TIMMINS - Ordinarily when people think of
organized crime they are thinking in terms of
the criminal operations sometimes referred to
as the Mafia, Coda Nostra or
"The Organization."
KINGSTON - Does there seem to be a structured
criminal organization in Dallas and the North
Texas area, or a loose confederation of groups?
TIMMINS - There does appear to ba an organization
of criminals to the extent that there are full-time
burglers and narcotic dealers residing here who
sometimes associate in a loosley knit manner.
KINGSTON - Is the Mafia or Cosa Nostra influence
identifiable in local operations?
TIMMINS - During my eight years with the U.S.
Attorneys Office in Dallas, I have seen no
evidence pf Mafia operations or influence in the
North Texas area.
There is one man who resides in Dallas who attended
the Appalachia , N.Y., meeting in November, 1957,
which 53 underworld leaders were known to attend.
If the Mafia or Cosa Nostra (the terms are synonymous)
has influence in the North Texas area, it is submerged
and not discerned by federal investigative agencies.
...... Dallas remains substantially free of the
pervading and corrupting influence of organized crime.
----------------
Respectfully,
Greg Jaynes