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Dallas police corrupton in 1963
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Raymond
2008-03-02 02:29:40 UTC
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Dallas police corrupton in 1963

Tippit was a dirty cop and every other cop in Dallas knew it. Do your
homework. I talked to Harry Olsen, when he lived in California, and he
assured me that Tippit knew Jack Ruby and had ambition to make money in
his job as a local "COP" ( Olsen called me and I have a letter from
Harry)

I lived in Dallas and watched both Dallas police and the Sheriff's police
cars deliver prostitutes and booze to motel residents all over the Dallas
community. I lived in the Alamo Motel (still there , I believe... on the
Dallas Fort Worth Pike ) and after several days living there, the black
handyman informed me that if I wanted anything, including whiskey or
prostitutes. he could arrange it with the Dallas police or the "guys" from
the Sheriff's office. I never needed either---- however I witnessed many
cases where it was obvious that some residents needed the special services
offered.

I was without my own automobile and depended on local bus transportation
to get downtown to search for a job. One day, I went outside the Alamo
Motel to catch a bus for downtown ( the bus stop was directly in front of
the Alamo Motel) When I got on the city bus, I went to the back of the
bus which was common in the northern cities, After several minutes, the
bus did not move and I noticed the driver looking at ME , in the large
mirror over his operators's position. When he noticed me looking for the
reason that the bus was not moving, he said,: "Yeah, you Yankee, ....Down
here only "niggers sit in the back of the of the bus. Now, if you want
this bus to move,,,get your ass up front or we don't move."

In a short time, I became aware that this was not a safe place for a
Yankee to survive... and I got on a Greyhound bus , where LHO went to
catch a cab to Oak Cliff, and left the most undesirable place that I have
ever visited in my life

Don't bullshit yourself that the Dallas police, or the Sheriff's office,
were in power to service the people of Dallas. Dallas police were the most
corrupt citizens in the United States in 1963. It's no wonder that folks
still believe in a conspiracy in the Coup D'etat that changed the course
of the future of the lives of the American people. Shazzam ! personally
believe this was the greatest cover-up in the history of the American
plutocracy.

L'shalom

Let us Prey.
l***@gmail.com
2008-03-03 04:12:06 UTC
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So the Dallas police were so corrupt, they would willingly participate in
the murder of their country's president but not corrupt enough that in the
past 45 years not one of them could be paid to spill the beans?
Post by Raymond
Dallas police corrupton in 1963
Tippit was a dirty cop and every other cop in Dallas knew it.  Do your
homework.  I talked to Harry Olsen, when he lived in California, and he
assured me that Tippit knew Jack Ruby and had ambition to make money in
his job as a local "COP"  ( Olsen called me and I have a letter from
Harry)
I lived in Dallas and watched both Dallas police and the Sheriff's police
cars deliver prostitutes and booze to motel residents all over the Dallas
community. I lived in the Alamo Motel (still there , I believe... on the
Dallas Fort Worth Pike ) and after several days living there, the black
handyman informed me that if I wanted anything, including whiskey or
prostitutes. he could arrange it with the Dallas police or the "guys" from
the Sheriff's office. I never needed either---- however I witnessed many
cases where it was obvious that some residents needed the special services
offered.
I was without my own automobile and depended on local bus transportation
to get downtown to search for a job.  One day, I went outside the Alamo
Motel to catch a bus for downtown ( the bus stop was directly in front of
the Alamo Motel)  When I got on the city bus, I went to the back of the
bus which was common in the northern cities, After several minutes, the
bus did not move and I noticed the driver looking at ME , in the large
mirror over his operators's position. When he noticed me looking for the
reason that the bus was not moving, he said,: "Yeah, you Yankee, ....Down
here only "niggers sit in the back of the of the bus. Now, if you want
this bus to move,,,get your ass up front or we don't move."
In a short time, I became aware that this was not a safe place for a
Yankee to survive... and I got on a Greyhound bus , where LHO went to
catch a cab to Oak Cliff, and left the most undesirable place that I have
ever visited in my life
Don't bullshit yourself that the Dallas police, or the Sheriff's office,
were in power to service the people of Dallas. Dallas police were the most
corrupt citizens in the United States in 1963. It's no wonder that folks
still believe in a conspiracy in the Coup D'etat that changed the course
of the future of the lives of the American people. Shazzam !  personally
believe this was the greatest cover-up in the history of the American
plutocracy.
L'shalom
Let us Prey.
Raymond
2008-03-03 17:23:29 UTC
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So the Dallas police were so corrupt, they would willingly participate in
the murder of their country's president but not corrupt enough that in the
past 45 years not one of them could be paid to spill the beans?
To my knowledge no one ever offered to pay a policeman to "SPILL THE
BEANS " with the exception of officer RC Nelson, who wanted to tell
his story for PAYMENT.

In 1984, author, Henry Hurt met Nelson in a parking lot in Corsicana
Texas, where Nelson was in provate business. Nelson told Hurt that he
had waited a long time to tell his story for the record but not
without payment. Hurt never got the story because Hurt refused to pay
Nelson

pp 161-63-63 Reasonable Doubt
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Post by Raymond
Dallas police corrupton in 1963
Tippit was a dirty cop and every other cop in Dallas knew it. �Do your
homework. �I talked to Harry Olsen, when he lived in California, and he
assured me that Tippit knew Jack Ruby and had ambition to make money in
his job as a local "COP" �( Olsen called me and I have a letter from
Harry)
I lived in Dallas and watched both Dallas police and the Sheriff's police
cars deliver prostitutes and booze to motel residents all over the Dallas
community. I lived in the Alamo Motel (still there , I believe... on the
Dallas Fort Worth Pike ) and after several days living there, the black
handyman informed me that if I wanted anything, including whiskey or
prostitutes. he could arrange it with the Dallas police or the "guys" from
the Sheriff's office. I never needed either---- however I witnessed many
cases where it was obvious that some residents needed the special services
offered.
I was without my own automobile and depended on local bus transportation
to get downtown to search for a job. �One day, I went outside the Alamo
Motel to catch a bus for downtown ( the bus stop was directly in front of
the Alamo Motel) �When I got on the city bus, I went to the back of the
bus which was common in the northern cities, After several minutes, the
bus did not move and I noticed the driver looking at ME , in the large
mirror over his operators's position. When he noticed me looking for the
reason that the bus was not moving, he said,: "Yeah, you Yankee, ....Down
here only "niggers sit in the back of the of the bus. Now, if you want
this bus to move,,,get your ass up front or we don't move."
In a short time, I became aware that this was not a safe place for a
Yankee to survive... and I got on a Greyhound bus , where LHO went to
catch a cab to Oak Cliff, and left the most undesirable place that I have
ever visited in my life
Don't bullshit yourself that the Dallas police, or the Sheriff's office,
were in power to service the people of Dallas. Dallas police were the most
corrupt citizens in the United States in 1963. It's no wonder that folks
still believe in a conspiracy in the Coup D'etat that changed the course
of the future of the lives of the American people. Shazzam ! �personally
believe this was the greatest cover-up in the history of the American
plutocracy.
L'shalom
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Anthony Marsh
2008-03-04 02:55:38 UTC
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So the Dallas police were so corrupt, they would willingly participate in
the murder of their country's president but not corrupt enough that in the
past 45 years not one of them could be paid to spill the beans?
To my knowledge no one ever offered to pay a policeman to "SPILL THE
BEANS " with the exception of officer RC Nelson, who wanted to tell
his story for PAYMENT.
What about the movie deal for Wade?
What about Curry's book? Profiting from a tragedy.
Post by Raymond
In 1984, author, Henry Hurt met Nelson in a parking lot in Corsicana
Texas, where Nelson was in provate business. Nelson told Hurt that he
had waited a long time to tell his story for the record but not
without payment. Hurt never got the story because Hurt refused to pay
Nelson
pp 161-63-63 Reasonable Doubt
Post by l***@gmail.com
Post by Raymond
Dallas police corrupton in 1963
Tippit was a dirty cop and every other cop in Dallas knew it. �Do your
homework. �I talked to Harry Olsen, when he lived in California, and he
assured me that Tippit knew Jack Ruby and had ambition to make money in
his job as a local "COP" �( Olsen called me and I have a letter from
Harry)
I lived in Dallas and watched both Dallas police and the Sheriff's police
cars deliver prostitutes and booze to motel residents all over the Dallas
community. I lived in the Alamo Motel (still there , I believe... on the
Dallas Fort Worth Pike ) and after several days living there, the black
handyman informed me that if I wanted anything, including whiskey or
prostitutes. he could arrange it with the Dallas police or the "guys" from
the Sheriff's office. I never needed either---- however I witnessed many
cases where it was obvious that some residents needed the special services
offered.
I was without my own automobile and depended on local bus transportation
to get downtown to search for a job. �One day, I went outside the Alamo
Motel to catch a bus for downtown ( the bus stop was directly in front of
the Alamo Motel) �When I got on the city bus, I went to the back of the
bus which was common in the northern cities, After several minutes, the
bus did not move and I noticed the driver looking at ME , in the large
mirror over his operators's position. When he noticed me looking for the
reason that the bus was not moving, he said,: "Yeah, you Yankee, ....Down
here only "niggers sit in the back of the of the bus. Now, if you want
this bus to move,,,get your ass up front or we don't move."
In a short time, I became aware that this was not a safe place for a
Yankee to survive... and I got on a Greyhound bus , where LHO went to
catch a cab to Oak Cliff, and left the most undesirable place that I have
ever visited in my life
Don't bullshit yourself that the Dallas police, or the Sheriff's office,
were in power to service the people of Dallas. Dallas police were the most
corrupt citizens in the United States in 1963. It's no wonder that folks
still believe in a conspiracy in the Coup D'etat that changed the course
of the future of the lives of the American people. Shazzam ! �personally
believe this was the greatest cover-up in the history of the American
plutocracy.
L'shalom
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Raymond
2008-03-04 05:16:56 UTC
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So the Dallas police were so corrupt, they would willingly participate in
the murder of their country's president but not corrupt enough that in the
past 45 years not one of them could be paid to spill the beans?
To my knowledge no one ever offered to pay a policeman to "SPILL THE
BEANS " with the exception of officer RC Nelson, who wanted to tell
his story for PAYMENT.
What about the movie deal for Wade?
What about Curry's book? Profiting from a tragedy.
You are correct Tony. Many people made money on the the tragedy (and are
still making money) including authors with their books, Groden with his
photography and movie makers like Oliver Stone. And we should not forget
Zapruder and his family. I should have said that Nelson was the only one
(that I am aware of that outright DEMANDED payment for important
information). Hurt never got the information because Hurt refused to pay
Nelson

Some people have even made the study of the tragedy a lifetime pursuit
without pay. I see names on these newsgroups that have been posting for
many years.and to this day we are still seeking the truth..

It is an interesting subject and hopefully one day the world will know if
one angry young man managed to murder JFK all alone or whether it was a
conspiracy involving members of the very government that Kennedy was
allegedly in charge of.

I believe, If I am permitted , that it was a conspiracy and that many
people know all of the details regarding the event. They feel that there
is no point in stirring shit since it smells bad enough unstirred.

Kennedy was not loved by large groups in the military-industrial complex
that President Eisenhower warned us about and who were well pleased when
Kennedy was removed from office with a bullet. I remember that day well,
and I remember the cheering that took place in many circles and especially
among my Mafia friends.

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Post by Raymond
In 1984,  author, Henry Hurt met Nelson in a parking lot in Corsicana
Texas, where Nelson was in provate business. Nelson told Hurt that he
had waited a long time to tell his story for the record but not
without payment.  Hurt never got the story because Hurt refused to pay
Nelson
pp 161-63-63  Reasonable Doubt
Post by l***@gmail.com
Post by Raymond
Dallas police corrupton in 1963
Tippit was a dirty cop and every other cop in Dallas knew it. �Do your
homework. �I talked to Harry Olsen, when he lived in California, and he
assured me that Tippit knew Jack Ruby and had ambition to make money in
his job as a local "COP" �( Olsen called me and I have a letter from
Harry)
I lived in Dallas and watched both Dallas police and the Sheriff's police
cars deliver prostitutes and booze to motel residents all over the Dallas
community. I lived in the Alamo Motel (still there , I believe... on the
Dallas Fort Worth Pike ) and after several days living there, the black
handyman informed me that if I wanted anything, including whiskey or
prostitutes. he could arrange it with the Dallas police or the "guys" from
the Sheriff's office. I never needed either---- however I witnessed many
cases where it was obvious that some residents needed the special services
offered.
I was without my own automobile and depended on local bus transportation
to get downtown to search for a job. �One day, I went outside the Alamo
Motel to catch a bus for downtown ( the bus stop was directly in front of
the Alamo Motel) �When I got on the city bus, I went to the back of the
bus which was common in the northern cities, After several minutes, the
bus did not move and I noticed the driver looking at ME , in the large
mirror over his operators's position. When he noticed me looking for the
reason that the bus was not moving, he said,: "Yeah, you Yankee, ....Down
here only "niggers sit in the back of the of the bus. Now, if you want
this bus to move,,,get your ass up front or we don't move."
In a short time, I became aware that this was not a safe place for a
Yankee to survive... and I got on a Greyhound bus , where LHO went to
catch a cab to Oak Cliff, and left the most undesirable place that I have
ever visited in my life
Don't bullshit yourself that the Dallas police, or the Sheriff's office,
were in power to service the people of Dallas. Dallas police were the most
corrupt citizens in the United States in 1963. It's no wonder that folks
still believe in a conspiracy in the Coup D'etat that changed the course
of the future of the lives of the American people. Shazzam ! �personally
believe this was the greatest cover-up in the history of the American
plutocracy.
L'shalom
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Anthony Marsh
2008-03-05 01:10:44 UTC
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So the Dallas police were so corrupt, they would willingly participate in
the murder of their country's president but not corrupt enough that in the
past 45 years not one of them could be paid to spill the beans?
To my knowledge no one ever offered to pay a policeman to "SPILL THE
BEANS " with the exception of officer RC Nelson, who wanted to tell
his story for PAYMENT.
What about the movie deal for Wade?
What about Curry's book? Profiting from a tragedy.
You are correct Tony. Many people made money on the the tragedy (and are
still making money) including authors with their books, Groden with his
photography and movie makers like Oliver Stone. And we should not forget
You have no idea what you are talking about. I know Bob personally and
he did not make a lot of money.
Post by Raymond
Zapruder and his family. I should have said that Nelson was the only one
And Zapruder was not a conspiracy theorist. Neither was Gerald Ford
(publicly) or David Belin (publicly).
Post by Raymond
(that I am aware of that outright DEMANDED payment for important
information). Hurt never got the information because Hurt refused to pay
Nelson
Some people have even made the study of the tragedy a lifetime pursuit
without pay. I see names on these newsgroups that have been posting for
many years.and to this day we are still seeking the truth..
It is an interesting subject and hopefully one day the world will know if
one angry young man managed to murder JFK all alone or whether it was a
conspiracy involving members of the very government that Kennedy was
allegedly in charge of.
I reject your notion that the conspirators represent our very
government. The idea of a coup is that a faction out of power grabs power.
Post by Raymond
I believe, If I am permitted , that it was a conspiracy and that many
people know all of the details regarding the event. They feel that there
is no point in stirring shit since it smells bad enough unstirred.
And maybe they have revealed it already.
Post by Raymond
Kennedy was not loved by large groups in the military-industrial complex
that President Eisenhower warned us about and who were well pleased when
Kennedy was removed from office with a bullet. I remember that day well,
and I remember the cheering that took place in many circles and especially
among my Mafia friends.
------------------
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by Raymond
In 1984, author, Henry Hurt met Nelson in a parking lot in Corsicana
Texas, where Nelson was in provate business. Nelson told Hurt that he
had waited a long time to tell his story for the record but not
without payment. Hurt never got the story because Hurt refused to pay
Nelson
pp 161-63-63 Reasonable Doubt
Post by l***@gmail.com
Post by Raymond
Dallas police corrupton in 1963
Tippit was a dirty cop and every other cop in Dallas knew it. �Do your
homework. �I talked to Harry Olsen, when he lived in California, and he
assured me that Tippit knew Jack Ruby and had ambition to make money in
his job as a local "COP" �( Olsen called me and I have a letter from
Harry)
I lived in Dallas and watched both Dallas police and the Sheriff's police
cars deliver prostitutes and booze to motel residents all over the Dallas
community. I lived in the Alamo Motel (still there , I believe... on the
Dallas Fort Worth Pike ) and after several days living there, the black
handyman informed me that if I wanted anything, including whiskey or
prostitutes. he could arrange it with the Dallas police or the "guys" from
the Sheriff's office. I never needed either---- however I witnessed many
cases where it was obvious that some residents needed the special services
offered.
I was without my own automobile and depended on local bus transportation
to get downtown to search for a job. �One day, I went outside the Alamo
Motel to catch a bus for downtown ( the bus stop was directly in front of
the Alamo Motel) �When I got on the city bus, I went to the back of the
bus which was common in the northern cities, After several minutes, the
bus did not move and I noticed the driver looking at ME , in the large
mirror over his operators's position. When he noticed me looking for the
reason that the bus was not moving, he said,: "Yeah, you Yankee, ....Down
here only "niggers sit in the back of the of the bus. Now, if you want
this bus to move,,,get your ass up front or we don't move."
In a short time, I became aware that this was not a safe place for a
Yankee to survive... and I got on a Greyhound bus , where LHO went to
catch a cab to Oak Cliff, and left the most undesirable place that I have
ever visited in my life
Don't bullshit yourself that the Dallas police, or the Sheriff's office,
were in power to service the people of Dallas. Dallas police were the most
corrupt citizens in the United States in 1963. It's no wonder that folks
still believe in a conspiracy in the Coup D'etat that changed the course
of the future of the lives of the American people. Shazzam ! �personally
believe this was the greatest cover-up in the history of the American
plutocracy.
L'shalom
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Raymond
2008-03-07 01:27:54 UTC
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So the Dallas police were so corrupt, they would willingly participate in
the murder of their country's president but not corrupt enough that in the
past 45 years not one of them could be paid to spill the beans?
To my knowledge no one ever offered to pay a policeman to "SPILL THE
BEANS " with the exception of officer RC Nelson, who wanted to tell
his story for PAYMENT.
What about the movie deal for Wade?
What about Curry's book? Profiting from a tragedy.
 You are correct Tony. Many people made money on the the tragedy (and are
still making money)  including authors with their books, Groden with his
photography and movie makers like Oliver Stone. And we should not forget
Marsh wrote:

You have no idea what you are talking about. I know Bob personally and he
did not make a LOT of money.

I said, " Many people made money. "
Post by Anthony Marsh
Zapruder and his family. I should have said that Nelson was the only one
And Zapruder was not a conspiracy theorist. Neither was Gerald Ford
(publicly) or David Belin (publicly).
(that I am aware of that outright DEMANDED payment for important
information). Hurt never got the information because Hurt refused to pay
Nelson
Some people have even made the study of the tragedy a lifetime pursuit
without pay. I see names on these newsgroups that have been posting for
many years.and to this day we are still seeking the truth..
It is an interesting subject and hopefully one day the world will know if
one angry young man managed to murder JFK all alone or whether it was a
conspiracy involving members of the very government that Kennedy was
allegedly in charge of.
I reject your notion that the conspirators represent our very
government. The idea of a coup is that a faction out of power grabs power.
Magus,Marsh wrote:

" I reject your notion that the conspirators represent our very
government. The idea of a coup is that a faction out of power grabs
power."

Do you reazile what you just admitted to? That's exactly why JFK was
murfered.....The idea of a coup is that a faction out of power grabs
power.
Post by Anthony Marsh
I believe, If I am permitted , that it was a conspiracy and that many
people know all of the details regarding the event. They feel that there
is no point in stirring shit since it smells bad enough unstirred.
And maybe they have revealed it already.
Kennedy was not loved by large groups in the military-industrial complex
that President Eisenhower warned us about and who were well pleased when
Kennedy was removed from office with a bullet. I remember that day well,
and I remember the cheering that took place in many circles and especially
among my Mafia friends.
------------------
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by Raymond
In 1984,  author, Henry Hurt met Nelson in a parking lot in Corsicana
Texas, where Nelson was in provate business. Nelson told Hurt that he
had waited a long time to tell his story for the record but not
without payment.  Hurt never got the story because Hurt refused to pay
Nelson
pp 161-63-63  Reasonable Doubt
Post by l***@gmail.com
Post by Raymond
Dallas police corrupton in 1963
Tippit was a dirty cop and every other cop in Dallas knew it. �Do your
homework. �I talked to Harry Olsen, when he lived in California, and he
assured me that Tippit knew Jack Ruby and had ambition to make money in
his job as a local "COP" �( Olsen called me and I have a letter from
Harry)
I lived in Dallas and watched both Dallas police and the Sheriff's police
cars deliver prostitutes and booze to motel residents all over the Dallas
community. I lived in the Alamo Motel (still there , I believe... on the
Dallas Fort Worth Pike ) and after several days living there, the black
handyman informed me that if I wanted anything, including whiskey or
prostitutes. he could arrange it with the Dallas police or the "guys" from
the Sheriff's office. I never needed either---- however I witnessed many
cases where it was obvious that some residents needed the special services
offered.
I was without my own automobile and depended on local bus transportation
to get downtown to search for a job. �One day, I went outside the Alamo
Motel to catch a bus for downtown ( the bus stop was directly in front of
the Alamo Motel) �When I got on the city bus, I went to the back of the
bus which was common in the northern cities, After several minutes, the
bus did not move and I noticed the driver looking at ME , in the large
mirror over his operators's position. When he noticed me looking for the
reason that the bus was not moving, he said,: "Yeah, you Yankee, ....Down
here only "niggers sit in the back of the of the bus. Now, if you want
this bus to move,,,get your ass up front or we don't move."
In a short time, I became aware that this was not a safe place for a
Yankee to survive... and I got on a Greyhound bus , where LHO went to
catch a cab to Oak Cliff, and left the most undesirable place that I have
ever visited in my life
Don't bullshit yourself that the Dallas police, or the Sheriff's office,
were in power to service the people of Dallas. Dallas police were the most
corrupt citizens in the United States in 1963. It's no wonder that folks
still believe in a conspiracy in the Coup D'etat that changed the course
of the future of the lives of the American people. Shazzam ! �personally
believe this was the greatest cover-up in the history of the American
plutocracy.
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Anthony Marsh
2008-03-07 06:46:21 UTC
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So the Dallas police were so corrupt, they would willingly participate in
the murder of their country's president but not corrupt enough that in the
past 45 years not one of them could be paid to spill the beans?
To my knowledge no one ever offered to pay a policeman to "SPILL THE
BEANS " with the exception of officer RC Nelson, who wanted to tell
his story for PAYMENT.
What about the movie deal for Wade?
What about Curry's book? Profiting from a tragedy.
You are correct Tony. Many people made money on the the tragedy (and are
still making money) including authors with their books, Groden with his
photography and movie makers like Oliver Stone. And we should not forget
You have no idea what you are talking about. I know Bob personally and he
did not make a LOT of money.
I said, " Many people made money. "
You specified Groden. Of course a Hollywood filmmaker is going to make a
lot of money even if all he does is pick his nose. Duh!
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Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by Raymond
Zapruder and his family. I should have said that Nelson was the only one
And Zapruder was not a conspiracy theorist. Neither was Gerald Ford
(publicly) or David Belin (publicly).
Post by Raymond
(that I am aware of that outright DEMANDED payment for important
information). Hurt never got the information because Hurt refused to pay
Nelson
Some people have even made the study of the tragedy a lifetime pursuit
without pay. I see names on these newsgroups that have been posting for
many years.and to this day we are still seeking the truth..
It is an interesting subject and hopefully one day the world will know if
one angry young man managed to murder JFK all alone or whether it was a
conspiracy involving members of the very government that Kennedy was
allegedly in charge of.
I reject your notion that the conspirators represent our very
government. The idea of a coup is that a faction out of power grabs power.
" I reject your notion that the conspirators represent our very
government. The idea of a coup is that a faction out of power grabs
power."
Do you reazile what you just admitted to? That's exactly why JFK was
murfered.....The idea of a coup is that a faction out of power grabs
power.
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by Raymond
I believe, If I am permitted , that it was a conspiracy and that many
people know all of the details regarding the event. They feel that there
is no point in stirring shit since it smells bad enough unstirred.
And maybe they have revealed it already.
Post by Raymond
Kennedy was not loved by large groups in the military-industrial complex
that President Eisenhower warned us about and who were well pleased when
Kennedy was removed from office with a bullet. I remember that day well,
and I remember the cheering that took place in many circles and especially
among my Mafia friends.
------------------
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by Raymond
In 1984, author, Henry Hurt met Nelson in a parking lot in Corsicana
Texas, where Nelson was in provate business. Nelson told Hurt that he
had waited a long time to tell his story for the record but not
without payment. Hurt never got the story because Hurt refused to pay
Nelson
pp 161-63-63 Reasonable Doubt
Post by l***@gmail.com
Post by Raymond
Dallas police corrupton in 1963
Tippit was a dirty cop and every other cop in Dallas knew it. �Do your
homework. �I talked to Harry Olsen, when he lived in California, and he
assured me that Tippit knew Jack Ruby and had ambition to make money in
his job as a local "COP" �( Olsen called me and I have a letter from
Harry)
I lived in Dallas and watched both Dallas police and the Sheriff's police
cars deliver prostitutes and booze to motel residents all over the Dallas
community. I lived in the Alamo Motel (still there , I believe... on the
Dallas Fort Worth Pike ) and after several days living there, the black
handyman informed me that if I wanted anything, including whiskey or
prostitutes. he could arrange it with the Dallas police or the "guys" from
the Sheriff's office. I never needed either---- however I witnessed many
cases where it was obvious that some residents needed the special services
offered.
I was without my own automobile and depended on local bus transportation
to get downtown to search for a job. �One day, I went outside the Alamo
Motel to catch a bus for downtown ( the bus stop was directly in front of
the Alamo Motel) �When I got on the city bus, I went to the back of the
bus which was common in the northern cities, After several minutes, the
bus did not move and I noticed the driver looking at ME , in the large
mirror over his operators's position. When he noticed me looking for the
reason that the bus was not moving, he said,: "Yeah, you Yankee, ....Down
here only "niggers sit in the back of the of the bus. Now, if you want
this bus to move,,,get your ass up front or we don't move."
In a short time, I became aware that this was not a safe place for a
Yankee to survive... and I got on a Greyhound bus , where LHO went to
catch a cab to Oak Cliff, and left the most undesirable place that I have
ever visited in my life
Don't bullshit yourself that the Dallas police, or the Sheriff's office,
were in power to service the people of Dallas. Dallas police were the most
corrupt citizens in the United States in 1963. It's no wonder that folks
still believe in a conspiracy in the Coup D'etat that changed the course
of the future of the lives of the American people. Shazzam ! �personally
believe this was the greatest cover-up in the history of the American
plutocracy.
L'shalom
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2008-03-08 00:51:23 UTC
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So the Dallas police were so corrupt, they would willingly participate in
the murder of their country's president but not corrupt enough that in the
past 45 years not one of them could be paid to spill the beans?
To my knowledge no one ever offered to pay a policeman to "SPILL THE
BEANS " with the exception of officer RC Nelson, who wanted to tell
his story for PAYMENT.
What about the movie deal for Wade?
What about Curry's book? Profiting from a tragedy.
 You are correct Tony. Many people made money on the the tragedy (and are
still making money)  including authors with their books, Groden with his
photography and movie makers like Oliver Stone. And we should not forget
 You have no idea what you are talking about. I know Bob personally and he
did not make a LOT of money.
  I said, " Many people made money. "
You specified Groden. Of course a Hollywood filmmaker is going to make a
lot of money even if all he does is pick his nose. Duh!
JFK assassination's final authority on the facts and factoids of the
Dallas coup:

Marsh wrote:
"You have no idea what you are talking about. I know Bob
(Groden)personally and he did not make a LOT of money."

[ But he sure as Hell tried to and didn't care how.]

"You specified Groden. Of course a Hollywood filmmaker is going to
make a
lot of money even if all he does is pick his nose. Duh!"

Author Robert Groden, a Dealey Plaza regular for the past 12 years,
hawked his 11 books and glossy magazines about the assassination from
a table set up between the grassy knoll and Elm Street, where Kennedy
and Gov. John Connally were shot.

"Dallas hoped it had put all this behind it in the 1980s," said Jeff
West, executive director of the Sixth Floor Museum at Dealey Plaza.
"We had America's Team, and a wonderfully trashy TV show about us." In
short, Dallas hoped the rest of the country would obsess about who
shot JR, rather than who shot JFK.

Not much chance of that. In Dealey Plaza, someone for years has been
painting a big X in the center lane on Elm Street as it slopes down
toward the Triple Underpass: It purports to mark the exact spot where
Kennedy was struck by the fatal bullet. This is just about the only
fact in the case with which the majority of conspiracy buffs and lone-
gunman advocates agree. And it's slightly wrong.

The X is, according to the Dallas Morning News, the work of 57-year-
old Robert Groden, one of several men who regularly HAWK conspiracy
pamphlets in Dealey Plaza. The problem is that the lanes have been re-
striped since 1963, and the X is actually about 6 inches too far to
the west.

"If it is off," Groden conceded, "it's not off by much."

( Groden is off the charts of morality)

Authors opinion......Zapruder reported that he sold his film to Time-
Life on Saturday 23 November ....Enter Robert Groden. who made a copy
and made a career of it.”

Nearly every day of the year, Groden and other conspiracy buffs man
card tables around the plaza, pointing out suspicious (and bogus)
bullet marks in the pavement and expounding on theories ranging from
plausible to laughable. A few appear to be true believers; many are
merely pitchmen for $5 brochures. When I pointed out to one hawker, 35-
year-old Jimmy Longoria, that he hadn't even been born when Kennedy
was shot, he drawled, "I wasn't around when Jesus was alive, either.
But I still go to church."

http://www.truthdig.com/eartotheground/item/20061123_eclectic_crowd_marks_jfk_anniversary/

Robert J. Groden : Friend of JFK final authority on Dallas Ambush,
Tony Marsh:

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Robert J. Groden (born November 22, 1945) is an American author and
photographer, and a SELF-proclaimed and widely acknowledged expert on
the assassination of former U.S. President John F. Kennedy. His books
include JFK: The Case for Conspiracy, The Killing of a President: The
Complete Photographic Record of the JFK Assassination, and The Search
for Lee Harvey Oswald: A Comprehensive Photographic Record. He served
as a photographic consultant to the Congressional investigation that
concluded the assassination was "probably" a conspiracy.

Groden attended Forest Hills High School in Queens, New York but left
in the 11th grade . He joined the Army in 1964 and first became
interested in the JFK assassination (1963) that same year . A harsh
critic of the Warren Commission, he was one of several photographic
consultants to the House Select Committee on Assassinations (HSCA) and
testified at the 1975 United States President's Commission on CIA
activities within the United States, sometimes referred to
(improperly) as the Rockefeller Commission.

By his own admission at the OJ Simpson civil trial, Groden is a high
school dropout with no formal photography training of any kind. He is
not certified by any professional photography organizations and, in
fact, does not even know the names of such organizations. He has never
taught any photography classes nor has he ever published anything with
respect to photography. He was discharged from the Army for
"inadaptibility to military life."

He was a consultant for Oliver Stone's 1991 film JFK.

As well as his own publications, Groden co-authored with Harrison E.
Livingstone the book High Treason: The Assassination of President John
F. Kennedy & the Case for Conspiracy.

During the O.J. Simpson civil trial, Groden appeared as an expert
witness and testified that a photograph of Simpson wearing Bruno Magli
shoes at a 1993 football game was a fake. After thirty other photos by
a different photographer of Simpson on the same day wearing the same
clothes — including the shoes — surfaced, Groden maintained that the
photograph was a forgery.

Groden sued Random House over a 1993 New York Times advertisement for
Gerald Posner's book Case Closed where he was featured along with
other conspiracy theorists and declared "guilty of misleading the
American public." The U.S. District Court issued a summary judgment
and dismissed the case

"OUCH"

Groden: OINK OINK
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Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by Anthony Marsh
Zapruder and his family. I should have said that Nelson was the only one
And Zapruder was not a conspiracy theorist. Neither was Gerald Ford
(publicly) or David Belin (publicly).
(that I am aware of that outright DEMANDED payment for important
information). Hurt never got the information because Hurt refused to pay
Nelson
Some people have even made the study of the tragedy a lifetime pursuit
without pay. I see names on these newsgroups that have been posting for
many years.and to this day we are still seeking the truth..
It is an interesting subject and hopefully one day the world will know if
one angry young man managed to murder JFK all alone or whether it was a
conspiracy involving members of the very government that Kennedy was
allegedly in charge of.
I reject your notion that the conspirators represent our very
government. The idea of a coup is that a faction out of power grabs power.
 " I reject your notion that the conspirators represent our very
government.  The idea of a coup is that a faction out of power grabs
power."
  Do you reazile what you just admitted to?  That's exactly why JFK was
murfered.....The idea of a coup is that a faction out of power grabs
power.
Post by Anthony Marsh
I believe, If I am permitted , that it was a conspiracy and that many
people know all of the details regarding the event. They feel that there
is no point in stirring shit since it smells bad enough unstirred.
And maybe they have revealed it already.
Kennedy was not loved by large groups in the military-industrial complex
that President Eisenhower warned us about and who were well pleased when
Kennedy was removed from office with a bullet. I remember that day well,
and I remember the cheering that took place in many circles and especially
among my Mafia friends.
------------------
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by Raymond
In 1984,  author, Henry Hurt met Nelson in a parking lot in Corsicana
Texas, where Nelson was in provate business. Nelson told Hurt that he
had waited a long time to tell his story for the record but not
without payment.  Hurt never got the story because Hurt refused to pay
Nelson
pp 161-63-63  Reasonable Doubt
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Post by Raymond
Dallas police corrupton in 1963
Tippit was a dirty cop and every other cop in Dallas knew it. �Do your
homework. �I talked to Harry Olsen, when he lived in California, and he
assured me that Tippit knew Jack Ruby and had ambition to make money in
his job as a local "COP" �( Olsen called me and I have a letter from
Harry)
I lived in Dallas and watched both Dallas police and the Sheriff's police
cars deliver prostitutes and booze to motel residents all over the Dallas
community. I lived in the Alamo Motel (still there , I believe... on the
Dallas Fort Worth Pike ) and after several days living there, the black
handyman informed me that if I wanted anything, including whiskey or
prostitutes. he could arrange it with the Dallas police or the "guys" from
the Sheriff's office. I never needed either---- however I witnessed many
cases where it was obvious that some residents needed the special services
offered.
I was without my own automobile and depended on local bus transportation
to get downtown to search for a job. �One day, I went outside the Alamo
Motel to catch a bus for downtown ( the bus stop was directly in front of
the Alamo Motel) �When I got on the city bus, I went to the back of the
bus which was common in the northern cities, After several minutes, the
bus did not move and I noticed the driver looking at ME , in the large
mirror over his operators's position. When he noticed me looking for the
reason that the bus was not moving, he said,: "Yeah, you Yankee, ....Down
here only "niggers sit in the back of the of the bus. Now, if you want
this bus to move,,,get your ass up front or we don't move."
In a short time, I became aware that this was not a safe place for a
Yankee to survive... and I got on a Greyhound bus , where LHO went to
catch a cab to Oak Cliff, and left the most undesirable place that I have
ever visited in my life
Don't bullshit yourself that the Dallas police, or the Sheriff's office,
were in power to service the people of Dallas. Dallas police were the most
corrupt citizens in the United States in 1963. It's no wonder that folks
still believe in a conspiracy in the Coup D'etat that changed the course
of the future of the lives of the American people. Shazzam ! �personally
believe this was the greatest cover-up in the history of the American
plutocracy.
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2008-03-08 03:14:33 UTC
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So the Dallas police were so corrupt, they would willingly participate in
the murder of their country's president but not corrupt enough that in the
past 45 years not one of them could be paid to spill the beans?
To my knowledge no one ever offered to pay a policeman to "SPILL THE
BEANS " with the exception of officer RC Nelson, who wanted to tell
his story for PAYMENT.
What about the movie deal for Wade?
What about Curry's book? Profiting from a tragedy.
 You are correct Tony. Many people made money on the the tragedy (and are
still making money)  including authors with their books, Groden with his
photography and movie makers like Oliver Stone. And we should not forget
 You have no idea what you are talking about. I know Bob personally and he
did not make a LOT of money.
  I said, " Many people made money. "
You specified Groden. Of course a Hollywood filmmaker is going to make a
lot of money even if all he does is pick his nose. Duh!
JFK assassination's final authority on the facts and factoids of the
  "You have no idea what you are talking about. I know Bob
(Groden)personally and he did not make a LOT of money."
[ But he sure as Hell tried to and didn't care how.]
"You specified Groden. Of course a Hollywood filmmaker is going to
make a
 lot of money even if all he does is pick his nose. Duh!"
Author Robert Groden, a Dealey Plaza regular for the past 12 years,
hawked his 11 books and glossy magazines about the assassination from
a table set up between the grassy knoll and Elm Street, where Kennedy
and Gov. John Connally were shot.
"Dallas hoped it had put all this behind it in the 1980s," said Jeff
West, executive director of the Sixth Floor Museum at Dealey Plaza.
"We had America's Team, and a wonderfully trashy TV show about us." In
short, Dallas hoped the rest of the country would obsess about who
shot JR, rather than who shot JFK.
Not much chance of that. In Dealey Plaza, someone for years has been
painting a big X in the center lane on Elm Street as it slopes down
toward the Triple Underpass: It purports to mark the exact spot where
Kennedy was struck by the fatal bullet. This is just about the only
fact in the case with which the majority of conspiracy buffs and lone-
gunman advocates agree. And it's slightly wrong.
The X is, according to the Dallas Morning News, the work of 57-year-
old Robert Groden, one of several men who regularly HAWK conspiracy
pamphlets in Dealey Plaza. The problem is that the lanes have been re-
striped since 1963, and the X is actually about 6 inches too far to
the west.
"If it is off," Groden conceded, "it's not off by much."
( Groden is off the charts of morality)
Authors opinion......Zapruder reported that he sold his film to Time-
Life on Saturday 23 November ....Enter Robert Groden. who made a copy
and made a career of it.”
Nearly every day of the year, Groden and other conspiracy buffs man
card tables around the plaza, pointing out suspicious (and bogus)
bullet marks in the pavement and expounding on theories ranging from
plausible to laughable. A few appear to be true believers; many are
merely pitchmen for $5 brochures. When I pointed out to one hawker, 35-
year-old Jimmy Longoria, that he hadn't even been born when Kennedy
was shot, he drawled, "I wasn't around when Jesus was alive, either.
But I still go to church."
http://www.truthdig.com/eartotheground/item/20061123_eclectic_crowd_m...
Robert J. Groden : Friend of JFK final authority on Dallas Ambush,
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Robert J. Groden (born November 22, 1945) is an American author and
photographer, and a SELF-proclaimed and widely acknowledged expert on
the assassination of former U.S. President John F. Kennedy. His books
include JFK: The Case for Conspiracy, The Killing of a President: The
Complete Photographic Record of the JFK Assassination, and The Search
for Lee Harvey Oswald: A Comprehensive Photographic Record. He served
as a photographic consultant to the Congressional investigation that
concluded the assassination was "probably" a conspiracy.
Groden attended Forest Hills High School in Queens, New York but left
in the 11th grade . He joined the Army in 1964 and first became
interested in the JFK assassination (1963) that same year . A harsh
critic of the Warren Commission, he was one of several photographic
consultants to the House Select Committee on Assassinations (HSCA) and
testified at the 1975 United States President's Commission on CIA
activities within the United States, sometimes referred to
(improperly) as the Rockefeller Commission.
By his own admission at the OJ Simpson civil trial, Groden is a high
school dropout with no formal photography training of any kind. He is
not certified by any professional photography organizations and, in
fact, does not even know the names of such organizations. He has never
taught any photography classes nor has he ever published anything with
respect to photography. He was discharged from the Army for
"inadaptibility to military life."
He was a consultant for Oliver Stone's 1991 film JFK.
As well as his own publications, Groden co-authored with Harrison E.
Livingstone the book High Treason: The Assassination of President John
F. Kennedy & the Case for Conspiracy.
During the O.J. Simpson civil trial, Groden appeared as an expert
witness and testified that a photograph of Simpson wearing Bruno Magli
shoes at a 1993 football game was a fake. After thirty other photos by
a different photographer of Simpson on the same day wearing the same
clothes — including the shoes — surfaced, Groden maintained that the
photograph was a forgery.
Groden sued Random House over a 1993 New York Times advertisement for
Gerald Posner's book Case Closed where he was featured along with
other conspiracy theorists and declared "guilty of misleading the
American public." The U.S. District Court issued a summary judgment
and dismissed the case
"OUCH"
Groden: OINK OINKhttp://www.shutterstock.com/pic-8917750-cute-pink-piggy-bank-standing...
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Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by Anthony Marsh
Zapruder and his family. I should have said that Nelson was the only one
And Zapruder was not a conspiracy theorist. Neither was Gerald Ford
(publicly) or David Belin (publicly).
(that I am aware of that outright DEMANDED payment for important
information). Hurt never got the information because Hurt refused to pay
Nelson
Some people have even made the study of the tragedy a lifetime pursuit
without pay. I see names on these newsgroups that have been posting for
many years.and to this day we are still seeking the truth..
It is an interesting subject and hopefully one day the world will know if
one angry young man managed to murder JFK all alone or whether it was a
conspiracy involving members of the very government that Kennedy was
allegedly in charge of.
I reject your notion that the conspirators represent our very
government. The idea of a coup is that a faction out of power grabs power.
 " I reject your notion that the conspirators represent our very
government.  The idea of a coup is that a faction out of power grabs
power."
  Do you reazile what you just admitted to?  That's exactly why JFK was
murfered.....The idea of a coup is that a faction out of power grabs
power.
Post by Anthony Marsh
I believe, If I am permitted , that it was a conspiracy and that many
people know all of the details regarding the event. They feel that there
is no point in stirring shit since it smells bad enough unstirred.
And maybe they have revealed it already.
Kennedy was not loved by large groups in the military-industrial complex
that President Eisenhower warned us about and who were well pleased when
Kennedy was removed from office with a bullet. I remember that day well,
and I remember the cheering that took place in many circles and especially
among my Mafia friends.
------------------
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Post by Raymond
In 1984,  author, Henry Hurt met Nelson in a parking lot in Corsicana
Texas, where Nelson was in provate business. Nelson told Hurt that he
had waited a long time to tell his story for the record but not
without payment.  Hurt never got the story because Hurt refused to pay
Nelson
pp 161-63-63  Reasonable Doubt
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Post by Raymond
Dallas police corrupton in 1963
Tippit was a dirty cop and every other cop in Dallas knew it. �Do your
homework. �I talked to Harry Olsen, when he lived in California, and he
assured me that Tippit knew Jack Ruby and had ambition to make money in
his job as a local "COP" �( Olsen called me and I have a letter from
Harry)
I lived in Dallas and watched both Dallas police and the Sheriff's police
cars deliver prostitutes and booze to motel residents all over the Dallas
community. I lived in the Alamo Motel (still there , I believe... on the
Dallas Fort Worth Pike ) and after several days living there, the black
handyman informed me that if I wanted anything, including whiskey or
prostitutes. he could arrange it with the Dallas police or the "guys" from
the Sheriff's office. I never needed either---- however I witnessed many
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cars deliver prostitutes and booze to motel residents all over the Dallas
community.
Interesting. Isn't there job to protect and SERVE? Well, they're
serving :-)
t***@hotmail.com
2008-03-03 17:23:35 UTC
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So the Dallas police were so corrupt, they would willingly participate in
the murder of their country's president but not corrupt enough that in the
past 45 years not one of them could be paid to spill the beans?
Post by Raymond
Dallas police corrupton in 1963
Tippit was a dirty cop and every other cop in Dallas knew it.  Do your
homework.  I talked to Harry Olsen, when he lived in California, and he
assured me that Tippit knew Jack Ruby and had ambition to make money in
his job as a local "COP"  ( Olsen called me and I have a letter from
Harry)
I lived in Dallas and watched both Dallas police and the Sheriff's police
cars deliver prostitutes and booze to motel residents all over the Dallas
community. I lived in the Alamo Motel (still there , I believe... on the
Dallas Fort Worth Pike ) and after several days living there, the black
handyman informed me that if I wanted anything, including whiskey or
prostitutes. he could arrange it with the Dallas police or the "guys" from
the Sheriff's office. I never needed either---- however I witnessed many
cases where it was obvious that some residents needed the special services
offered.
I was without my own automobile and depended on local bus transportation
to get downtown to search for a job.  One day, I went outside the Alamo
Motel to catch a bus for downtown ( the bus stop was directly in front of
the Alamo Motel)  When I got on the city bus, I went to the back of the
bus which was common in the northern cities, After several minutes, the
bus did not move and I noticed the driver looking at ME , in the large
mirror over his operators's position. When he noticed me looking for the
reason that the bus was not moving, he said,: "Yeah, you Yankee, ....Down
here only "niggers sit in the back of the of the bus. Now, if you want
this bus to move,,,get your ass up front or we don't move."
In a short time, I became aware that this was not a safe place for a
Yankee to survive... and I got on a Greyhound bus , where LHO went to
catch a cab to Oak Cliff, and left the most undesirable place that I have
ever visited in my life
Don't bullshit yourself that the Dallas police, or the Sheriff's office,
were in power to service the people of Dallas. Dallas police were the most
corrupt citizens in the United States in 1963. It's no wonder that folks
still believe in a conspiracy in the Coup D'etat that changed the course
of the future of the lives of the American people. Shazzam !  personally
believe this was the greatest cover-up in the history of the American
plutocracy.
L'shalom
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No, the cop was corrupt enough to say he would only talk if he was
paid money to do so, the journalist said no, so the cop didn't talk.
a***@maine.rr.com
2008-03-04 02:43:34 UTC
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"So the Dallas police were so corrupt, they would willingly participate in
the murder of their country's president but not corrupt enough that in the
past 45 years not one of them could be paid to spill the beans? "

the illogic of this is colossal and almost laughable -

if they willingly participated in the JFK assasssination and were paid,
why would they accept money (probably less) for admitting to complicity in
that murder? can you give me an example where someone was paid to
participate in a murder and than got paid again to confess to personal
particpation in the murder? Have they changed the law on the statute of
limitations? -Allen Lowe
l***@gmail.com
2008-03-06 05:50:28 UTC
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the illogic of this is colossal and almost laughable -
And yet the Dallas police being enlisted to murder the President of
the United States (and not a single one objecting or refusing to go
along) makes perfect sense. You guys crack me up.
Anthony Marsh
2008-03-07 06:37:10 UTC
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Post by a***@maine.rr.com
the illogic of this is colossal and almost laughable -
And yet the Dallas police being enlisted to murder the President of
the United States (and not a single one objecting or refusing to go
along) makes perfect sense. You guys crack me up.
Yeah, you're right. Everyone knows that all policemen are 100% honest
and would never do anything wrong. Maybe on some other planet.
Raymond
2008-03-08 00:38:25 UTC
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Post by l***@gmail.com
Post by a***@maine.rr.com
the illogic of this is colossal and almost laughable -
And yet the Dallas police being enlisted to murder the President of
the United States (and not a single one objecting or refusing to go
along) makes perfect sense. You guys crack me up.
Yeah, you're right. Everyone knows that all policemen are 100% honest
and would never do anything wrong. Maybe on some other planet.
Dallas Police Department needs makeover
The existence of police injustice can easily lead to the rise of
street justice,

By: Bobak Mosharaf

There has been a need for cleaning up in the Dallas Police Department in
recent years. The city has battled with issues of corruption in its
narcotics division since a scandal began in 2001, as reported by the
Dallas Morning News. Multiple Dallas narcotics policemen were entangled in
a complicated scheme, in which informants planted fake drugs on their
predominantly Mexican victims. Fictitious drug busts followed.

Several months after innocent targets were indicted for drug dealing and
sent to jail, tests revealed that the "drugs" were nothing more than
ground up sheet-rock or billiard chalk. In many cases, the wrongfully
accused languished in jail until later court dates. For considering these
suspects guilty until proven innocent, contrary to our nations policies,
all the police officers associated in this scandal should be firmly
prosecuted.

A large number of drug cases in Dallas ended up being dismissed after the
corruption was exposed, and now many of the victims of police corruption
are being paid anywhere from $100,000 to $500,000 for their grief. The
City of Dallas is to pay more than $5.5 million in order to settle federal
lawsuits over the fake-drug scandal, but even the victims who ended up
benefiting financially from the scandal are saying that the more important
issue is the punishment for corruption and negligence in the police
department.

Democracy is jeopardized when crimes are punished in different ways or to
a different extent within the same system. Far too often, assumptions rule
the process of American justice. Police are quick to assume that whatever
evidence they find is legitimate enough to indict a minority or someone of
lower economic status. The courts assume that some cases are open and
shut, while others aren't even worth opening. The privileged are innocent
until proven guilty, while poor minorities remain guilty until proven
innocent.

Fortunately, the scandal has lead to some positive changes within the
Dallas Police Department. Several new policies outlining proper procedures
for narcotics officers were enacted: All seized drugs are sent to the lab
immediately for analysis, prosecutors will not seek to indict a suspect
until the lab results are completed, the police chief will be notified of
any payment to an informant greater than $1,000 every three months, audits
will be performed on funds used in DPD narcotics cases and narcotics
officers will receive additional training in conducting field tests on
drugs. . Even though the Dallas Police Department has taken significant
strides in compensating the victims of the scandal and revising its policy
to prevent similar events in the future, the main issue is equal
protection. Prevalent discrimination and an underlying principle of
profiling in the United States justice system have been exposed. The sense
of justice that condemned victims in the fake-drug scandal was quick,
neglected several existing policies and due processes and was slow to
indict any of the involved narcotics detectives.

The result of all this, if not correctly addressed, is chaos. Unless
America's big cities make clear, long-term steps towards ensuring equal
protection at the police department level, and reducing the practices of
discrimination and profiling, then the United States cannot hope for any
justice or tranquility. The existence of police injustice can easily lead
to the rise of street justice, as the Los Angeles riots of 1992
demonstrated. Dallas seems to be somewhat aware of this, as the city has
made an attempt to redeem itself for the actions of its police department.
But it still has a long way to go to create truly equal protection in the
big cities of America, and the next step is to hold guilty narcotics
officers legally responsible for their actions.
k***@yahoo.com
2008-04-22 15:17:45 UTC
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Post by a***@maine.rr.com
the illogic of this is colossal and almost laughable -
And yet the Dallas police being enlisted to murder the President of
the United States (and not a single one objecting or refusing to go
along) makes perfect sense. You guys crack me up.
Yeah, you're right. Everyone knows that all policemen are 100% honest
and would never do anything wrong. Maybe on some other planet.
I don't think that was the point. He wasn't saying that 100% of
policemen are honest, but that 100% of policemen aren't corrupt.

After 45 years I would think "human nature" would come into play at
some point with someone finally spilling the beans and actually giving
specific details of the great "conspiracy." Whether this would be
someone on their death bed, or giving out details while tipsy in a
bar, or going into witness protection, or someone who found religion
and just can't live with the guilt any longer, it just doesn't seem
logical that a 45 year old conspiracy would still be rock solid today
with that many people involved.
Anthony Marsh
2008-03-04 02:36:15 UTC
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Post by l***@gmail.com
So the Dallas police were so corrupt, they would willingly participate in
the murder of their country's president but not corrupt enough that in the
past 45 years not one of them could be paid to spill the beans?
And get bumped off the next day like Rosselli and Giancana? Yeah, makes
a lot of sense. You always squeal against the Mafia and live happily
ever after.
Post by l***@gmail.com
Post by Raymond
Dallas police corrupton in 1963
Tippit was a dirty cop and every other cop in Dallas knew it. Do your
homework. I talked to Harry Olsen, when he lived in California, and he
assured me that Tippit knew Jack Ruby and had ambition to make money in
his job as a local "COP" ( Olsen called me and I have a letter from
Harry)
I lived in Dallas and watched both Dallas police and the Sheriff's police
cars deliver prostitutes and booze to motel residents all over the Dallas
community. I lived in the Alamo Motel (still there , I believe... on the
Dallas Fort Worth Pike ) and after several days living there, the black
handyman informed me that if I wanted anything, including whiskey or
prostitutes. he could arrange it with the Dallas police or the "guys" from
the Sheriff's office. I never needed either---- however I witnessed many
cases where it was obvious that some residents needed the special services
offered.
I was without my own automobile and depended on local bus transportation
to get downtown to search for a job. One day, I went outside the Alamo
Motel to catch a bus for downtown ( the bus stop was directly in front of
the Alamo Motel) When I got on the city bus, I went to the back of the
bus which was common in the northern cities, After several minutes, the
bus did not move and I noticed the driver looking at ME , in the large
mirror over his operators's position. When he noticed me looking for the
reason that the bus was not moving, he said,: "Yeah, you Yankee, ....Down
here only "niggers sit in the back of the of the bus. Now, if you want
this bus to move,,,get your ass up front or we don't move."
In a short time, I became aware that this was not a safe place for a
Yankee to survive... and I got on a Greyhound bus , where LHO went to
catch a cab to Oak Cliff, and left the most undesirable place that I have
ever visited in my life
Don't bullshit yourself that the Dallas police, or the Sheriff's office,
were in power to service the people of Dallas. Dallas police were the most
corrupt citizens in the United States in 1963. It's no wonder that folks
still believe in a conspiracy in the Coup D'etat that changed the course
of the future of the lives of the American people. Shazzam ! personally
believe this was the greatest cover-up in the history of the American
plutocracy.
L'shalom
Let us Prey.
l***@gmail.com
2008-04-22 01:51:49 UTC
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Post by l***@gmail.com
So the Dallas police were so corrupt, they would willingly participate in
the murder of their country's president but not corrupt enough that in the
past 45 years not one of them could be paid to spill the beans?
Post by Raymond
Dallas police corrupton in 1963
Tippit was a dirty cop and every other cop in Dallas knew it. Do your
homework. I talked to Harry Olsen, when he lived in California, and he
assured me that Tippit knew Jack Ruby and had ambition to make money in
his job as a local "COP" ( Olsen called me and I have a letter from
Harry)
I lived in Dallas and watched both Dallas police and the Sheriff's police
cars deliver prostitutes and booze to motel residents all over the Dallas
community. I lived in the Alamo Motel (still there , I believe... on the
Dallas Fort Worth Pike ) and after several days living there, the black
handyman informed me that if I wanted anything, including whiskey or
prostitutes. he could arrange it with the Dallas police or the "guys" from
the Sheriff's office. I never needed either---- however I witnessed many
cases where it was obvious that some residents needed the special services
offered.
I was without my own automobile and depended on local bus transportation
to get downtown to search for a job. One day, I went outside the Alamo
Motel to catch a bus for downtown ( the bus stop was directly in front of
the Alamo Motel) When I got on the city bus, I went to the back of the
bus which was common in the northern cities, After several minutes, the
bus did not move and I noticed the driver looking at ME , in the large
mirror over his operators's position. When he noticed me looking for the
reason that the bus was not moving, he said,: "Yeah, you Yankee, ....Down
here only "niggers sit in the back of the of the bus. Now, if you want
this bus to move,,,get your ass up front or we don't move."
In a short time, I became aware that this was not a safe place for a
Yankee to survive... and I got on a Greyhound bus , where LHO went to
catch a cab to Oak Cliff, and left the most undesirable place that I have
ever visited in my life
Don't bullshit yourself that the Dallas police, or the Sheriff's office,
were in power to service the people of Dallas. Dallas police were the most
corrupt citizens in the United States in 1963. It's no wonder that folks
still believe in a conspiracy in the Coup D'etat that changed the course
of the future of the lives of the American people. Shazzam ! personally
believe this was the greatest cover-up in the history of the American
plutocracy.
L'shalom
Let us Prey.
The people who have come forward with information are dead. One is
from the Dallas Police. His name is Roger Craig.
Look into his case...here is brief outline of what he witnessed and
what he experienced after witnessing it...maybe this is one reason
people don't talk. Another is that there really is a code of silence
amongst police agencies. Haven't we seen this in plenty of other
cases? Why is it so hard to imagine this in Dallas a place that
considers itself a separate country come on get with the program??
Roger Craig was a Deputy Sheriff in Dallas at the time of the
assassination of President Kennedy. He was a member of a group of men
from Dallas County Sheriff James Eric "Bill" Decker's office that was
directed to stand out in front of the Sheriff's office on Main Street
(at the corner of Houston) and "take no part whatsoever in the
security of that motorcade." Once he heard the first shot, Roger Craig
immediately bolted towards Houston Street. His participation in the
formative hours of the investigation during the rest of that day and
into the evening included observations and experiences that would have
singlehandedly destroyed the entire Warren Commission fairy tale
before a grand jury or a Congressional investigation.

Roger Craig was named the Dallas Sheriff's Department "Officer of the
Year" in 1960 by the Dallas Traffic Commission. He received four
promotions while he was Deputy Sheriff. Among the most important
events he witnessed:

* at approximately 12:40 p.m., Deputy Craig was standing on the
south side of Elm Street when he heard a shrill whistle coming from
the north side of Elm and turned to see a man -- wearing faded blue
trousers and a long sleeved work shirt made of some type of grainy
material -- come running down the grassy knoll from the direction of
the TSBD. He saw a light green Rambler station wagon coming slowly
west on Elm Street, pull over to the north curb and pick up the man
coming down the hill. By this time the traffic was too heavy for him
to be able to reach them before the car drove away going west on Elm.

* after witnessing the above scene, Deputy Craig ran to the
command post at Elm and Houston to report the incident to the
authorities. When he got there and asked who was involved in the
investigation, a man turned to him and said "I'm with the Secret
Service." Craig recounted what he had just seen. This "Secret Service"
man showed little interest in Craig's description of the people
leaving, but seemed extremely interested in the description of the
Rambler to the degree this was the only part of the recounting that he
wrote down. (On 12/22/67, Roger Craig learned from Jim Garrison that
this man's name was Edgar Eugene Bradley, a right wing preacher from
North Hollywood, California and part-time assistant to Carl McIntire,
the fundamentalist minister who had founded the American Counsel of
Christian Churches. Then-governor Ronald Reagan refused to grant the
extradition request from Garrison for the indictment of Bradley during
the New Orleans Probe.)

* immediately after this Craig was told by Sheriff Decker to help
the police search the TSBD. Deputy Craig was one of the two people to
find the three rifle cartridges on the floor beneath the window on the
southeast corner of the sixth floor. All three were no more than an
inch apart and all were lined up in the same direction. One of the
three shells was crimped on the end which would have held the slug. It
had not been stepped on but merely crimped over on one small portion
of the rim. The rest of that end was perfectly round.

* he was present at when the rifle was found, and, along with
Deputy Eugene Boone who had first spotted the weapon, was immediately
joined by police Lt. Day, Homicide Capt. Fritz, and deputy constable
Seymour Weitzman, an expert on weapons who had been in the sporting
goods business for many years and was familiar with all domestic and
foreign makes. Lt. Day briefly inspected the rifle and handed it to
Capt. Fritz who asked if anyone knew what kind of rifle it was. After
a close examination, Weitzman declared it to be a 7.65 German Mauser.
Capt. Fritz agreed with him.

* at the moment when Capt. Fritz concurred with Weitzman's
identification of the rifle, an unknown Dallas police officer came
running up the stairs and advised Capt. Fritz that a Dallas policeman
had been shot in the Oak Cliff area. Craig instinctively looked at his
watch. The time was 1:06 p.m. (The Warren Commission attempted to move
this time back beyond 1:15 to plausible claim Oswald had reached the
Tippit murder scene in a more humanly possible time-frame than would
be the case if Tippit had the encounter with his murderer any
earlier.)

* Later in the afternoon Craig received word of Oswald's arrest
and that he was suspected of being involved in the Kennedy's murder.
He immediately thought of the man running down the grassy knoll and
made a telephone call to Capt. Will Fritz to gave him the description
of the man he had seen. Fritz said Craig's description sounded like
the man they had and asked him to come take a look. When he saw Oswald
in Fritz's personal office Deputy Craig confirmed that this was indeed
the man, dressed in the same way, that he had seen running down the
knoll and into the Rambler. They went into the office together and
Fritz told Oswald,

"This man (pointing to me) saw you leave." At which time the
suspect replied, "I told you people I did." Fritz, apparently trying
to console Oswald, said, "Take it easy, son -- we're just trying to
find out what happened." Fritz then said, "What about the car?" Oswald
replied, leaning forward on Fritz' desk, "That station wagon belongs
to Mrs. Paine -- don't try to drag her into this." Sitting back in his
chair, Oswald said very disgustedly and very low, "Everybody will know
who I am now."

The fact that Fritz said car and this elicited Oswald's outburst
about a station wagon -- that no one else had mentioned -- confirms
the veracity of Roger Craig's story.

* junior counsel for the Warren Commission Dave Belin, was the man
who interview Roger Craig in April of 1964. After the being questioned
in what Craig recounts as a very manipulative and selective way, Belin
asked "Do you want to follow or waive your signature or sign now?"
Craig noted, "Since there was nothing but a tape recording and a
stenographer's note book, there was obviously nothing to sign. All
other testimony which I have read (a considerable amount) included an
explanation that the person could waive his signature then or his
statement would be typed and he would be notified when it was ready
for signature. Belin did not say this to me." After Craig first saw
the transcript in January of 1968 he discovered that the testimony he
gave had been in fourteen different places.

Deputy Sheriff Roger Craig never changed his account of what he
witnessed and experienced on Friday, November 22, 1963. (The passage
where he describes the methodology employed by David Belin in
selectively recording his testimony is highly illuminating and
provides us with a glimpse of how the "W.C." interviewed witnesses in
a very controlled way.) He remained convinced, for the rest of this
life, that the man entering the Rambler station wagon was Lee Harvey
Oswald. He was fired from the Sheriff's office on July 4, 1967, and
from that day forward he never again could find steady work. Multiple
attempts were made on his life, his wife finally left him, and in the
end, he was alleged to have shot himself to death on May 15, 1975
Anthony Marsh
2008-04-22 17:07:27 UTC
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Post by l***@gmail.com
So the Dallas police were so corrupt, they would willingly participate in
the murder of their country's president but not corrupt enough that in the
past 45 years not one of them could be paid to spill the beans?
Post by Raymond
Dallas police corrupton in 1963
Tippit was a dirty cop and every other cop in Dallas knew it. Do your
homework. I talked to Harry Olsen, when he lived in California, and he
assured me that Tippit knew Jack Ruby and had ambition to make money in
his job as a local "COP" ( Olsen called me and I have a letter from
Harry)
I lived in Dallas and watched both Dallas police and the Sheriff's police
cars deliver prostitutes and booze to motel residents all over the Dallas
community. I lived in the Alamo Motel (still there , I believe... on the
Dallas Fort Worth Pike ) and after several days living there, the black
handyman informed me that if I wanted anything, including whiskey or
prostitutes. he could arrange it with the Dallas police or the "guys" from
the Sheriff's office. I never needed either---- however I witnessed many
cases where it was obvious that some residents needed the special services
offered.
I was without my own automobile and depended on local bus transportation
to get downtown to search for a job. One day, I went outside the Alamo
Motel to catch a bus for downtown ( the bus stop was directly in front of
the Alamo Motel) When I got on the city bus, I went to the back of the
bus which was common in the northern cities, After several minutes, the
bus did not move and I noticed the driver looking at ME , in the large
mirror over his operators's position. When he noticed me looking for the
reason that the bus was not moving, he said,: "Yeah, you Yankee, ....Down
here only "niggers sit in the back of the of the bus. Now, if you want
this bus to move,,,get your ass up front or we don't move."
In a short time, I became aware that this was not a safe place for a
Yankee to survive... and I got on a Greyhound bus , where LHO went to
catch a cab to Oak Cliff, and left the most undesirable place that I have
ever visited in my life
Don't bullshit yourself that the Dallas police, or the Sheriff's office,
were in power to service the people of Dallas. Dallas police were the most
corrupt citizens in the United States in 1963. It's no wonder that folks
still believe in a conspiracy in the Coup D'etat that changed the course
of the future of the lives of the American people. Shazzam ! personally
believe this was the greatest cover-up in the history of the American
plutocracy.
L'shalom
Let us Prey.
The people who have come forward with information are dead. One is
from the Dallas Police. His name is Roger Craig.
Look into his case...here is brief outline of what he witnessed and
No, do not bother looking into Roger Craig. He was a liar.
Post by l***@gmail.com
what he experienced after witnessing it...maybe this is one reason
people don't talk. Another is that there really is a code of silence
amongst police agencies. Haven't we seen this in plenty of other
cases? Why is it so hard to imagine this in Dallas a place that
considers itself a separate country come on get with the program??
Roger Craig was a Deputy Sheriff in Dallas at the time of the
assassination of President Kennedy. He was a member of a group of men
from Dallas County Sheriff James Eric "Bill" Decker's office that was
directed to stand out in front of the Sheriff's office on Main Street
(at the corner of Houston) and "take no part whatsoever in the
security of that motorcade." Once he heard the first shot, Roger Craig
immediately bolted towards Houston Street. His participation in the
formative hours of the investigation during the rest of that day and
into the evening included observations and experiences that would have
singlehandedly destroyed the entire Warren Commission fairy tale
before a grand jury or a Congressional investigation.
Roger Craig was named the Dallas Sheriff's Department "Officer of the
Year" in 1960 by the Dallas Traffic Commission. He received four
promotions while he was Deputy Sheriff. Among the most important
* at approximately 12:40 p.m., Deputy Craig was standing on the
south side of Elm Street when he heard a shrill whistle coming from
the north side of Elm and turned to see a man -- wearing faded blue
trousers and a long sleeved work shirt made of some type of grainy
material -- come running down the grassy knoll from the direction of
the TSBD. He saw a light green Rambler station wagon coming slowly
west on Elm Street, pull over to the north curb and pick up the man
coming down the hill. By this time the traffic was too heavy for him
to be able to reach them before the car drove away going west on Elm.
* after witnessing the above scene, Deputy Craig ran to the
command post at Elm and Houston to report the incident to the
authorities. When he got there and asked who was involved in the
investigation, a man turned to him and said "I'm with the Secret
Service." Craig recounted what he had just seen. This "Secret Service"
man showed little interest in Craig's description of the people
leaving, but seemed extremely interested in the description of the
Rambler to the degree this was the only part of the recounting that he
wrote down. (On 12/22/67, Roger Craig learned from Jim Garrison that
this man's name was Edgar Eugene Bradley, a right wing preacher from
North Hollywood, California and part-time assistant to Carl McIntire,
the fundamentalist minister who had founded the American Counsel of
Christian Churches. Then-governor Ronald Reagan refused to grant the
extradition request from Garrison for the indictment of Bradley during
the New Orleans Probe.)
* immediately after this Craig was told by Sheriff Decker to help
the police search the TSBD. Deputy Craig was one of the two people to
find the three rifle cartridges on the floor beneath the window on the
southeast corner of the sixth floor. All three were no more than an
inch apart and all were lined up in the same direction. One of the
three shells was crimped on the end which would have held the slug. It
had not been stepped on but merely crimped over on one small portion
of the rim. The rest of that end was perfectly round.
* he was present at when the rifle was found, and, along with
Deputy Eugene Boone who had first spotted the weapon, was immediately
joined by police Lt. Day, Homicide Capt. Fritz, and deputy constable
Seymour Weitzman, an expert on weapons who had been in the sporting
goods business for many years and was familiar with all domestic and
foreign makes. Lt. Day briefly inspected the rifle and handed it to
Capt. Fritz who asked if anyone knew what kind of rifle it was. After
a close examination, Weitzman declared it to be a 7.65 German Mauser.
Capt. Fritz agreed with him.
* at the moment when Capt. Fritz concurred with Weitzman's
identification of the rifle, an unknown Dallas police officer came
running up the stairs and advised Capt. Fritz that a Dallas policeman
had been shot in the Oak Cliff area. Craig instinctively looked at his
watch. The time was 1:06 p.m. (The Warren Commission attempted to move
this time back beyond 1:15 to plausible claim Oswald had reached the
Tippit murder scene in a more humanly possible time-frame than would
be the case if Tippit had the encounter with his murderer any
earlier.)
* Later in the afternoon Craig received word of Oswald's arrest
and that he was suspected of being involved in the Kennedy's murder.
He immediately thought of the man running down the grassy knoll and
made a telephone call to Capt. Will Fritz to gave him the description
of the man he had seen. Fritz said Craig's description sounded like
the man they had and asked him to come take a look. When he saw Oswald
in Fritz's personal office Deputy Craig confirmed that this was indeed
the man, dressed in the same way, that he had seen running down the
knoll and into the Rambler. They went into the office together and
Fritz told Oswald,
"This man (pointing to me) saw you leave." At which time the
suspect replied, "I told you people I did." Fritz, apparently trying
to console Oswald, said, "Take it easy, son -- we're just trying to
find out what happened." Fritz then said, "What about the car?" Oswald
replied, leaning forward on Fritz' desk, "That station wagon belongs
to Mrs. Paine -- don't try to drag her into this." Sitting back in his
chair, Oswald said very disgustedly and very low, "Everybody will know
who I am now."
The fact that Fritz said car and this elicited Oswald's outburst
about a station wagon -- that no one else had mentioned -- confirms
the veracity of Roger Craig's story.
* junior counsel for the Warren Commission Dave Belin, was the man
who interview Roger Craig in April of 1964. After the being questioned
in what Craig recounts as a very manipulative and selective way, Belin
asked "Do you want to follow or waive your signature or sign now?"
Craig noted, "Since there was nothing but a tape recording and a
stenographer's note book, there was obviously nothing to sign. All
other testimony which I have read (a considerable amount) included an
explanation that the person could waive his signature then or his
statement would be typed and he would be notified when it was ready
for signature. Belin did not say this to me." After Craig first saw
the transcript in January of 1968 he discovered that the testimony he
gave had been in fourteen different places.
Deputy Sheriff Roger Craig never changed his account of what he
witnessed and experienced on Friday, November 22, 1963. (The passage
where he describes the methodology employed by David Belin in
selectively recording his testimony is highly illuminating and
provides us with a glimpse of how the "W.C." interviewed witnesses in
a very controlled way.) He remained convinced, for the rest of this
life, that the man entering the Rambler station wagon was Lee Harvey
Oswald. He was fired from the Sheriff's office on July 4, 1967, and
from that day forward he never again could find steady work. Multiple
attempts were made on his life, his wife finally left him, and in the
end, he was alleged to have shot himself to death on May 15, 1975
Everything you brought up as you pretend to think it is some startlingly
new revelation is junk we have thoroughly discussed before and debunked.
curtjester1
2008-04-22 15:16:26 UTC
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Post by Raymond
Dallas police corrupton in 1963
http://www.voxfux.com/kennedy/farewell/farewell17.html

CJ
Post by Raymond
Tippit was a dirty cop and every other cop in Dallas knew it.  Do your
homework.  I talked to Harry Olsen, when he lived in California, and he
assured me that Tippit knew Jack Ruby and had ambition to make money in
his job as a local "COP"  ( Olsen called me and I have a letter from
Harry)
I lived in Dallas and watched both Dallas police and the Sheriff's police
cars deliver prostitutes and booze to motel residents all over the Dallas
community. I lived in the Alamo Motel (still there , I believe... on the
Dallas Fort Worth Pike ) and after several days living there, the black
handyman informed me that if I wanted anything, including whiskey or
prostitutes. he could arrange it with the Dallas police or the "guys" from
the Sheriff's office. I never needed either---- however I witnessed many
cases where it was obvious that some residents needed the special services
offered.
I was without my own automobile and depended on local bus transportation
to get downtown to search for a job.  One day, I went outside the Alamo
Motel to catch a bus for downtown ( the bus stop was directly in front of
the Alamo Motel)  When I got on the city bus, I went to the back of the
bus which was common in the northern cities, After several minutes, the
bus did not move and I noticed the driver looking at ME , in the large
mirror over his operators's position. When he noticed me looking for the
reason that the bus was not moving, he said,: "Yeah, you Yankee, ....Down
here only "niggers sit in the back of the of the bus. Now, if you want
this bus to move,,,get your ass up front or we don't move."
In a short time, I became aware that this was not a safe place for a
Yankee to survive... and I got on a Greyhound bus , where LHO went to
catch a cab to Oak Cliff, and left the most undesirable place that I have
ever visited in my life
Don't bullshit yourself that the Dallas police, or the Sheriff's office,
were in power to service the people of Dallas. Dallas police were the most
corrupt citizens in the United States in 1963. It's no wonder that folks
still believe in a conspiracy in the Coup D'etat that changed the course
of the future of the lives of the American people. Shazzam !  personally
believe this was the greatest cover-up in the history of the American
plutocracy.
L'shalom
Let us Prey.
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