Discussion:
I need the distance from Zapruder to the sniper's nest window.
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John Corbett
2021-02-05 19:20:35 UTC
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I had been estimating this distance in my earlier calculations but
somebody gave me the actual distance in another thread. I have
been unable to locate that thread or find the answer through a
google search. Does anybody have the correct distance? Thanks
in advance.
John Corbett
2021-02-06 20:26:55 UTC
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Post by John Corbett
I had been estimating this distance in my earlier calculations but
somebody gave me the actual distance in another thread. I have
been unable to locate that thread or find the answer through a
google search. Does anybody have the correct distance? Thanks
in advance.
I think I have found the answer to my question in this article from
John McAdams website:

http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/russ/infojfk/jfk6/blur.htm

I believe this is the HSCA analysis of the blurring of the frames which it
is trying to associate with each shot.

It states Zapruder's distance from the sniper's nest was 270 feet. I also
learned something about the camera that I didn't know. I assumed it's
motor was battery powered but from the description it sounds like it is
wound up and the speed is at it's fastest when the camera is fully wound.

I am working on some calculations to try to further refine my estimates of
when each shot was fired. I note some similarities with my previous
calculations and those in the article. However, I must take exception to
one point. It states that since fragments are already airborne in frame
313, it must mean the bullet actually struck at 312. This fails to take
into account that there is a gap between frames while the next frame is
advanced into position to be exposed. I think that if the head explosion
began in 312, we would see fragments starting to fly upward in that frame.

As I have noted before, since Zapruder's distance from the rifle was
constant, there should be a constant time lag between the shot being fired
and Zapruder hearing it. His involuntary startle reaction to each shot
should also be the same. The total time lag from when the shot was fired
until Zapruder reacted should equal the amount of time it takes the sound
of the shot to reach Zapruder plus the amount of time elapsed from when he
heard the shot and when he reacted. Once that figure is know, it should be
quite simple to find the appropriate jiggle for each shot. That's easy for
the two shots that hit JFK. It's 227 and 318. The speed of sound varies
slightly depending on temperature but I am using 1120 fps for my
calculation. That requires 4.41 frames for the sound of each shot to reach
Zapruder. I am trying to find some definitive information as to how long
it would take for an involuntary startle reaction to occur. I have been
using 200 milliseconds but that I believe is just a rough estimate. I'm
looking to see if there is a more definite answer. 200 milliseconds is
3.66 Zapruder frames so if that figure is accurate there are just over 8
seconds from gunshot to jiggle reaction (4.41 + 3.66 = 8.07).

I have a real problem with some of the conclusions in this article but I
will save them for another post when I have gotten some additional
information.
Steve Schmidt
2021-02-06 22:54:16 UTC
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Post by John Corbett
That requires 4.41 frames for the sound of each shot to reach
Zapruder. I am trying to find some definitive information as to how long
it would take for an involuntary startle reaction to occur. I have been
using 200 milliseconds but that I believe is just a rough estimate. I'm
looking to see if there is a more definite answer. 200 milliseconds is
3.66 Zapruder frames so if that figure is accurate there are just over 8
seconds from gunshot to jiggle reaction (4.41 + 3.66 = 8.07).
You obviously meant:

"200 milliseconds is 3.66 Zapruder frames so if that figure is accurate
there are just over 8 *frames* from gunshot to jiggle reaction (4.41 +
3.66 = 8.07)."
John Corbett
2021-02-07 01:19:46 UTC
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Post by John Corbett
That requires 4.41 frames for the sound of each shot to reach
Zapruder. I am trying to find some definitive information as to how long
it would take for an involuntary startle reaction to occur. I have been
using 200 milliseconds but that I believe is just a rough estimate. I'm
looking to see if there is a more definite answer. 200 milliseconds is
3.66 Zapruder frames so if that figure is accurate there are just over 8
seconds from gunshot to jiggle reaction (4.41 + 3.66 = 8.07).
"200 milliseconds is 3.66 Zapruder frames so if that figure is accurate
there are just over 8 *frames* from gunshot to jiggle reaction (4.41 +
3.66 = 8.07)."
Right you are. I made that same mistake a couple months ago and Bud
pointed it out to me. Maybe someday I'll proof read what I write before
posting it. Sometimes my fingers go on auto pilot and don't key what I am
actually thinking.
Steve Schmidt
2021-02-07 14:14:52 UTC
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Post by Steve Schmidt
Post by John Corbett
That requires 4.41 frames for the sound of each shot to reach
Zapruder. I am trying to find some definitive information as to how long
it would take for an involuntary startle reaction to occur. I have been
using 200 milliseconds but that I believe is just a rough estimate. I'm
looking to see if there is a more definite answer. 200 milliseconds is
3.66 Zapruder frames so if that figure is accurate there are just over 8
seconds from gunshot to jiggle reaction (4.41 + 3.66 = 8.07).
"200 milliseconds is 3.66 Zapruder frames so if that figure is accurate
there are just over 8 *frames* from gunshot to jiggle reaction (4.41 +
3.66 = 8.07)."
Right you are. I made that same mistake a couple months ago and Bud
pointed it out to me. Maybe someday I'll proof read what I write before
posting it. Sometimes my fingers go on auto pilot and don't key what I am
actually thinking.
Given that “every jiggle doesn’t equate to a
gunshot”, and I admit I am not well-versed in jiggle theory,
I’ve always wondered, doesn’t frame 313 seem to be the
start of a jiggle?

What constitutes a jiggle? How long does a sequence of blurry frames have
to be to be a jiggle? What are the jiggle segments of the Zapruder film?
John Corbett
2021-02-08 01:11:09 UTC
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Post by John Corbett
Post by Steve Schmidt
Post by John Corbett
That requires 4.41 frames for the sound of each shot to reach
Zapruder. I am trying to find some definitive information as to how long
it would take for an involuntary startle reaction to occur. I have been
using 200 milliseconds but that I believe is just a rough estimate. I'm
looking to see if there is a more definite answer. 200 milliseconds is
3.66 Zapruder frames so if that figure is accurate there are just over 8
seconds from gunshot to jiggle reaction (4.41 + 3.66 = 8.07).
"200 milliseconds is 3.66 Zapruder frames so if that figure is accurate
there are just over 8 *frames* from gunshot to jiggle reaction (4.41 +
3.66 = 8.07)."
Right you are. I made that same mistake a couple months ago and Bud
pointed it out to me. Maybe someday I'll proof read what I write before
posting it. Sometimes my fingers go on auto pilot and don't key what I am
actually thinking.
Given that “every jiggle doesn’t equate to a
gunshot”, and I admit I am not well-versed in jiggle theory,
I’ve always wondered, doesn’t frame 313 seem to be the
start of a jiggle?
What constitutes a jiggle? How long does a sequence of blurry frames have
to be to be a jiggle? What are the jiggle segments of the Zapruder film?
The best way to determine if there is a jiggle is to compare a small item
from one frame to the next to see if it gets enlarged. The 1967 CBS
documentary explains this better than I ever could. Start at the 38:00
mark and go forward for about 7 minutes. Beyond that, the documentary goes
off the rails due to some illogical conclusions.

https://www.c-span.org/video/?453991-2/a-cbs-news-inquiry-warren-report-part-1

Until Hank gave me this link, I was under the false impression that the
jiggle analysis was something Luis Alvarez had presented within the last
few decades but I see now it goes all the way back to the 1967
documentary. It is compelling evidence that there would almost certainly
be a jiggle following every shot. As the film shows, even when their test
cameramen were told to hold the camera steady, they were unable to do
so.
John Corbett
2021-02-09 03:40:18 UTC
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I seem to have found an answer to the amount of time required for a
startle response which is the final piece of the calculation I am using to
determine from the jiggles when each shot was fired. Luis Alvarez proposed
over 50 years ago that a cameraman will be unable to hold the camera
steady when startled by a noise as loud as a rifle shot. CBS tested this
during their 1967 documentary on the WCR and found that to be true. Since
the distance from Zapruder to the rifle was constant, about 270 feet
according to an HSCA document, the time required for the sound to reach
his ears would be the same for all three shots. It seems likely his
reaction time would be about the same for all three so we should expect
the same time lag between shot and jiggle for all three shots. Once that
figure is calculated, we can work backwards from the observed jiggles to
determine when the shots were fired.

I had read several years ago that a startle response requires about 200
milliseconds. It
appears that is an oversimplification. This is what I have discovered:

"There are many various reflexes that can occur simultaneously during a
startle response. The fastest reflex recorded in humans happens within the
masseter muscle or jaw muscle. The reflex was measured by electromyography
which records the electrical activity during movement of the muscles. This
also showed the latency response or the delay between the stimulus and the
response recorded was found to be about 14 milliseconds. The blink of the
eye which is the reflex of the orbicularis oculi muscle was found to have
a latency of about 20 to 40 milliseconds. Out of larger body parts, the
head is quickest in a movement latency in a range from 60 to 120
milliseconds. The neck then moves almost simultaneously with a latency of
75 to 121 milliseconds. Next, the shoulder jerks at 100 to 121
milliseconds along with the arms at 125 to 195 milliseconds. Lastly the
legs responds with a latency of 145 to 395 milliseconds. This type of
cascading response correlates to how the synapses travel from the brain
and down the spinal cord to activate each motor neuron."

From this layman's reading, it seems like the response time is different for different parts
of the body. That makes sense since the sound impulse must travel to the brain which will
then send the signal to the muscles throughout the bod. The response time for the arms is
in the range of 125 to 195 milliseconds. I am going to take an educated guess that the
longer time is for the extremities, i.e. than hands. Since the camera was in Zapruder's hands,
the higher figure seems the most pertinent one but if the upper arm began to move before the
hands, that could shorten the time for the jiggle to occur slightly. I am going to arbitrarily use
190 milliseconds as the lag time between the sound reaching Zapruder and the jiggle to begin.
That I believe is sufficiently close for this exercise.

I also learned in researching this that the speed of sound will vary slightly due to temperature.
I am using a speed of 1120 fps which is also close enough for this exercise. It would have
required .241 seconds for the sound of the muzzle blast to reach Zapruders ears. add to that
.190 (190 milliseconds) for his startle response gives a total lag time of .431 seconds from
muzzle blast to jiggle. At 18.3 frames per second, that indicates 7.89 frames would elapse
from the time the shot was fired until we observe a camera jiggle. Not quite 8 full frames but
very close.

Keep in mind that a jiggle could begin early during a frames exposure, late in the exposure, or
in the gap between exposures so we cannot pinpoint the shot any closer than that. Following
the two shots that struck JFK, we see camera jiggles at frames 227 and 318. Working back
7.89 seconds means it is likely those shots were fired at frames 219 and 310 or in the gap
just preceding them. This is about a frame earlier than my previous calculations. The hard
part is deciding when the missed shot was fired because we have no definitive evidence of
that, only clues. All jiggles are not associated with gunshots so finding those jiggles doesn't
tell us with certainty which one is due to a gunshot. We have to use other clues to make that
judgement. I believe the jiggle at 158 is due to the first shot that missed. This syncs up the
best with Connally's 164 head snap and Rosemary Willis slowing to a stop and turning back
toward the TSBD. I am aware others have differing opinions about when that shot was fired.

For the two shots that struck, we can calculate which frame they struck at by starting from
when the calculation indicates those shots were fired, estimating the average velocity of the
bullet and determining JFK's distance from the rifle at the moment those shots were fired.
The limo would move a negligible distance while the bullet is in the air but that would be
unlikely to change which frame the bullet struck at. At 11mph, the limo would be moving
about .88 feet per frame. JFK was estimated to be 190.8 feet from the rifle at frame 225
but I'm estimating about 187 feet at the time the bullet struck a few frames earlier. A
bullet traveling at an average velocity of 2000 fps would cover that distance in .0935
seconds or 1.71 frames. If the shot were fired at 219, it likely would have struck at frame
221. This is a frame earlier than my previous calculations. JFK's and JBC's simultaneous
reaction at frame 226 would seem to fit with that calculation. For the head shot, the
distance to the rifle was 288 feet. That would require .144 seconds or 2.64 frames for
the bullet to reach JFK. If fired at 310 it would strike either late in the exposure of 312
or in the 312-313 gap. I think the latter is more likely since we see no visible evidence of
a strike in frame 312.

I seem to have developed an obsessive compulsion to determine as precisely as possible
when the various shots were fired and when they likely struck. Precision is limited by the
fact we have to estimate things like bullet velocity, the relatively slow speed of the camera,
and the fact that we don't know when during the cycle of each frame each event occurred.
I think the above calculations give us an answer accurate to within a frame. If anyone can
see any errors I made in my calculations or factors I omitted, I welcome your comments.
Or you can tell me I'm full of shit. You won't hurt my feelings.
Anthony Marsh
2021-02-08 01:11:20 UTC
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That requires 4.41 frames for the sound of each shot to reach
Zapruder. I am trying to find some definitive information as to how long
it would take for an involuntary startle reaction to occur. I have been
using 200 milliseconds but that I believe is just a rough estimate. I'm
looking to see if there is a more definite answer. 200 milliseconds is
3.66 Zapruder frames so if that figure is accurate there are just over 8
seconds from gunshot to jiggle reaction (4.41 + 3.66 = 8.07).
"200 milliseconds is 3.66 Zapruder frames so if that figure is accurate
there are just over 8 *frames* from gunshot to jiggle reaction (4.41 +
3.66 = 8.07)."
Right you are. I made that same mistake a couple months ago and Bud
pointed it out to me. Maybe someday I'll proof read what I write before
posting it. Sometimes my fingers go on auto pilot and don't key what I am
actually thinking.
Given that ???every jiggle doesn???t equate to a
gunshot???, and I admit I am not well-versed in jiggle theory,
I???ve always wondered, doesn???t frame 313 seem to be the
start of a jiggle?
Have you even bothered to read the HSCA analysis? Of course not. You
might learn something.


PleAE Show mw qhixh jiddlw you rhink is not caused by a shot and then
tell me what caused it.
\\\
What constitutes a jiggle? How long does a sequence of blurry frames have
to be to be a jiggle? What are the jiggle segments of the Zapruder film?
Blur
Jason Burke
2021-02-08 03:22:37 UTC
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Post by John Corbett
That requires 4.41 frames for the sound of each shot to reach
Zapruder. I am trying to find some definitive information as to how long
it would take for an involuntary startle reaction to occur. I have been
using 200 milliseconds but that I believe is just a rough estimate. I'm
looking to see if there is a more definite answer. 200 milliseconds is
3.66 Zapruder frames so if that figure is accurate there are just over 8
seconds from gunshot to jiggle reaction (4.41 + 3.66 = 8.07).
"200 milliseconds is 3.66 Zapruder frames so if that figure is accurate
there are just over 8 *frames* from gunshot to jiggle reaction (4.41 +
3.66 = 8.07)."
Right you are. I made that same mistake a couple months ago and Bud
pointed it out to me. Maybe someday I'll proof read what I write before
posting it. Sometimes my fingers go on auto pilot and don't key what I am
actually thinking.
Given that ???every jiggle doesn???t equate to a
gunshot???, and I admit I am not well-versed in jiggle theory,
I???ve always wondered, doesn???t frame 313 seem to be the
start of a jiggle?
Have you even bothered to read the HSCA analysis? Of course not. You
might learn something.
Have you ever been to Dealey Plaza? Of course not. You might learn
something.
Post by Anthony Marsh
PleAE Show mw qhixh jiddlw you rhink is not caused by a shot and then
tell me what caused it.
\\\
What constitutes a jiggle? How long does a sequence of blurry frames have
to be to be a jiggle? What are the jiggle segments of the Zapruder film?
Blur
Anthony Marsh
2021-02-09 03:40:33 UTC
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Post by John Corbett
That requires 4.41 frames for the sound of each shot to reach
Zapruder. I am trying to find some definitive information as to how long
it would take for an involuntary startle reaction to occur. I have been
using 200 milliseconds but that I believe is just a rough
estimate. I'm
looking to see if there is a more definite answer. 200
milliseconds is
3.66 Zapruder frames so if that figure is accurate there are just over 8
seconds from gunshot to jiggle reaction (4.41 + 3.66 = 8.07).
"200 milliseconds is 3.66 Zapruder frames so if that figure is accurate
there are just over 8 *frames* from gunshot to jiggle reaction (4.41 +
3.66 = 8.07)."
Right you are. I made that same mistake a couple months ago and Bud
pointed it out to me. Maybe someday I'll proof read what I write before
posting it. Sometimes my fingers go on auto pilot and don't key what I am
actually thinking.
Given that ???every jiggle doesn???t equate to a
gunshot???, and I admit I am not well-versed in jiggle theory,
I???ve always wondered, doesn???t frame 313 seem to be the
start of a jiggle?
Have you even bothered to read the HSCA analysis? Of course not. You
might learn something.
Have you ever been to Dealey Plaza? Of course not. You might learn
something.
Irrelevant false equivalency.
I don't have to go to the moon to know facts about it.
I have the most accurate map of Dealy Plaza. I corrected the HSCS map.
It's called RESEARCH.
Post by Jason Burke
Post by Anthony Marsh
PleAE Show mw qhixh jiddlw you rhink is not caused by a shot and then
tell me what caused it. zEnglish please. Show you WHAT?
\\\
What constitutes a jiggle? How long does a sequence of blurry frames have
to be to be a jiggle? What are the jiggle segments of the Zapruder film?
Blur
Jason Burke
2021-02-10 10:51:11 UTC
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That requires 4.41 frames for the sound of each shot to reach
Zapruder. I am trying to find some definitive information as to how long
it would take for an involuntary startle reaction to occur. I have been
using 200 milliseconds but that I believe is just a rough estimate. I'm
looking to see if there is a more definite answer. 200
milliseconds is
3.66 Zapruder frames so if that figure is accurate there are just over 8
seconds from gunshot to jiggle reaction (4.41 + 3.66 = 8.07).
"200 milliseconds is 3.66 Zapruder frames so if that figure is accurate
there are just over 8 *frames* from gunshot to jiggle reaction (4.41 +
3.66 = 8.07)."
Right you are. I made that same mistake a couple months ago and Bud
pointed it out to me. Maybe someday I'll proof read what I write before
posting it. Sometimes my fingers go on auto pilot and don't key what I am
actually thinking.
Given that ???every jiggle doesn???t equate to a
gunshot???, and I admit I am not well-versed in jiggle theory,
I???ve always wondered, doesn???t frame 313 seem to be the
start of a jiggle?
Have you even bothered to read the HSCA analysis? Of course not. You
might learn something.
Have you ever been to Dealey Plaza? Of course not. You might learn
something.
Irrelevant false equivalency.
I don't have to go to the moon to know facts about it.
I have the most accurate map of Dealy Plaza. I corrected the HSCS map.
It's called RESEARCH.
You go with that, sweetie.
Even after all these years, you still have no clue.
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by Jason Burke
Post by Anthony Marsh
PleAE Show mw qhixh jiddlw you rhink is not caused by a shot and then
tell me what caused it. zEnglish please. Show you WHAT?
\\\
What constitutes a jiggle? How long does a sequence of blurry frames have
to be to be a jiggle? What are the jiggle segments of the Zapruder film?
Blur
Anthony Marsh
2021-02-10 19:17:47 UTC
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Post by John Corbett
That requires 4.41 frames for the sound of each shot to reach
Zapruder. I am trying to find some definitive information as to how long
it would take for an involuntary startle reaction to occur. I have been
using 200 milliseconds but that I believe is just a rough estimate. I'm
looking to see if there is a more definite answer. 200
milliseconds is
3.66 Zapruder frames so if that figure is accurate there are just over 8
seconds from gunshot to jiggle reaction (4.41 + 3.66 = 8.07).
"200 milliseconds is 3.66 Zapruder frames so if that figure is accurate
there are just over 8 *frames* from gunshot to jiggle reaction (4.41 +
3.66 = 8.07)."
Right you are. I made that same mistake a couple months ago and Bud
pointed it out to me. Maybe someday I'll proof read what I write before
posting it. Sometimes my fingers go on auto pilot and don't key what I am
actually thinking.
Given that ???every jiggle doesn???t equate to a
gunshot???, and I admit I am not well-versed in jiggle theory,
I???ve always wondered, doesn???t frame 313 seem to be the
start of a jiggle?
Have you even bothered to read the HSCA analysis? Of course not. You
might learn something.
Have you ever been to Dealey Plaza? Of course not. You might learn
something.
Irrelevant false equivalency.
I don't have to go to the moon to know facts about it.
I have the most accurate map of Dealy Plaza. I corrected the HSCS map.
It's called RESEARCH.
You go with that, sweetie.
Even after all these years, you still have no clue.
I have research, YOU have nothing.
Post by Jason Burke
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by Jason Burke
Post by Anthony Marsh
PleAE Show mw qhixh jiddlw you rhink is not caused by a shot and
then tell me what caused it. zEnglish please. Show you WHAT?
\\\
What constitutes a jiggle? How long does a sequence of blurry frames have
to be to be a jiggle? What are the jiggle segments of the Zapruder film?
Blur
John Corbett
2021-02-11 02:11:10 UTC
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Post by John Corbett
That requires 4.41 frames for the sound of each shot to reach
Zapruder. I am trying to find some definitive information as to how long
it would take for an involuntary startle reaction to occur. I have been
using 200 milliseconds but that I believe is just a rough estimate. I'm
looking to see if there is a more definite answer. 200 milliseconds is
3.66 Zapruder frames so if that figure is accurate there are just over 8
seconds from gunshot to jiggle reaction (4.41 + 3.66 = 8.07).
"200 milliseconds is 3.66 Zapruder frames so if that figure is accurate
there are just over 8 *frames* from gunshot to jiggle reaction (4.41 +
3.66 = 8.07)."
Right you are. I made that same mistake a couple months ago and Bud
pointed it out to me. Maybe someday I'll proof read what I write before
posting it. Sometimes my fingers go on auto pilot and don't key what I am
actually thinking.
Given that ???every jiggle doesn???t equate to a
gunshot???, and I admit I am not well-versed in jiggle theory,
I???ve always wondered, doesn???t frame 313 seem to be the
start of a jiggle?
Have you even bothered to read the HSCA analysis? Of course not. You
might learn something.
Have you ever been to Dealey Plaza? Of course not. You might learn
something.
Irrelevant false equivalency.
I don't have to go to the moon to know facts about it.
I have the most accurate map of Dealy Plaza. I corrected the HSCS map.
It's called RESEARCH.
You go with that, sweetie.
Even after all these years, you still have no clue.
I have research, YOU have nothing.
Barking up the wrong tree is not research.
Jason Burke
2021-02-12 02:17:14 UTC
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That requires 4.41 frames for the sound of each shot to reach
Zapruder. I am trying to find some definitive information as to how long
it would take for an involuntary startle reaction to occur. I have been
using 200 milliseconds but that I believe is just a rough estimate. I'm
looking to see if there is a more definite answer. 200
milliseconds is
3.66 Zapruder frames so if that figure is accurate there are just over 8
seconds from gunshot to jiggle reaction (4.41 + 3.66 = 8.07).
"200 milliseconds is 3.66 Zapruder frames so if that figure is accurate
there are just over 8 *frames* from gunshot to jiggle reaction (4.41 +
3.66 = 8.07)."
Right you are. I made that same mistake a couple months ago and Bud
pointed it out to me. Maybe someday I'll proof read what I write before
posting it. Sometimes my fingers go on auto pilot and don't key what I am
actually thinking.
Given that ???every jiggle doesn???t equate to a
gunshot???, and I admit I am not well-versed in jiggle theory,
I???ve always wondered, doesn???t frame 313 seem to be the
start of a jiggle?
Have you even bothered to read the HSCA analysis? Of course not.
You might learn something.
Have you ever been to Dealey Plaza? Of course not. You might learn
something.
Irrelevant false equivalency.
I don't have to go to the moon to know facts about it.
I have the most accurate map of Dealy Plaza. I corrected the HSCS map.
It's called RESEARCH.
You go with that, sweetie.
Even after all these years, you still have no clue.
I have research, YOU have nothing.
Have the forty years of "research" that you've done come to ANY correct
conclusions?
I can't think of one.
You're tilting at windmills. And many of them seem to have fallen on you.
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PleAE Show mw qhixh jiddlw you rhink is not caused by a shot and
then tell me what caused it. zEnglish please. Show you WHAT?
\\\
What constitutes a jiggle? How long does a sequence of blurry frames have
to be to be a jiggle? What are the jiggle segments of the Zapruder film?
Blur
Anthony Marsh
2021-02-14 05:17:45 UTC
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That requires 4.41 frames for the sound of each shot to reach
Zapruder. I am trying to find some definitive information as to how long
it would take for an involuntary startle reaction to occur. I have been
using 200 milliseconds but that I believe is just a rough estimate. I'm
looking to see if there is a more definite answer. 200 milliseconds is
3.66 Zapruder frames so if that figure is accurate there are just over 8
seconds from gunshot to jiggle reaction (4.41 + 3.66 = 8.07).
"200 milliseconds is 3.66 Zapruder frames so if that figure is accurate
there are just over 8 *frames* from gunshot to jiggle reaction (4.41 +
3.66 = 8.07)."
Right you are. I made that same mistake a couple months ago and Bud
pointed it out to me. Maybe someday I'll proof read what I write before
posting it. Sometimes my fingers go on auto pilot and don't key what I am
actually thinking.
Given that ???every jiggle doesn???t equate to a
gunshot???, and I admit I am not well-versed in jiggle theory,
I???ve always wondered, doesn???t frame 313 seem to be the
start of a jiggle?
Have you even bothered to read the HSCA analysis? Of course not.
You might learn something.
Have you ever been to Dealey Plaza? Of course not. You might learn
something.
Irrelevant false equivalency.
I don't have to go to the moon to know facts about it.
I have the most accurate map of Dealy Plaza. I corrected the HSCS map.
It's called RESEARCH.
You go with that, sweetie.
Even after all these years, you still have no clue.
I have research, YOU have nothing.
Have the forty years of "research" that you've done come to ANY correct
conclusions?
As I said before, I was the person who corrected the HSCA map. And I was
the only person who wrote a computer program to duplical the acoustical
studies.
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I can't think of one.
You're tilting at windmills. And many of them seem to have fallen on you.
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Post by Jason Burke
Post by Anthony Marsh
PleAE Show mw qhixh jiddlw you rhink is not caused by a shot and
then tell me what caused it. zEnglish please. Show you WHAT?
\\\
What constitutes a jiggle? How long does a sequence of blurry frames have
to be to be a jiggle? What are the jiggle segments of the Zapruder film?
Blur
John Corbett
2021-02-15 14:24:45 UTC
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As I said before, I was the person who corrected the HSCA map. And I was
the only person who wrote a computer program to duplical the acoustical
studies.
Thanks from a grateful nation.
Jason Burke
2021-02-15 19:49:05 UTC
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That requires 4.41 frames for the sound of each shot to reach
Zapruder. I am trying to find some definitive information as
to how long
it would take for an involuntary startle reaction to occur. I have been
using 200 milliseconds but that I believe is just a rough estimate. I'm
looking to see if there is a more definite answer. 200 milliseconds is
3.66 Zapruder frames so if that figure is accurate there are
just over 8
seconds from gunshot to jiggle reaction (4.41 + 3.66 = 8.07).
"200 milliseconds is 3.66 Zapruder frames so if that figure is accurate
there are just over 8 *frames* from gunshot to jiggle reaction (4.41 +
3.66 = 8.07)."
Right you are. I made that same mistake a couple months ago and Bud
pointed it out to me. Maybe someday I'll proof read what I write before
posting it. Sometimes my fingers go on auto pilot and don't key what I am
actually thinking.
Given that ???every jiggle doesn???t equate to a
gunshot???, and I admit I am not well-versed in jiggle theory,
I???ve always wondered, doesn???t frame 313 seem to be the
start of a jiggle?
Have you even bothered to read the HSCA analysis? Of course not.
You might learn something.
Have you ever been to Dealey Plaza? Of course not. You might learn
something.
Irrelevant false equivalency.
I don't have to go to the moon to know facts about it.
I have the most accurate map of Dealy Plaza. I corrected the HSCS map.
It's called RESEARCH.
You go with that, sweetie.
Even after all these years, you still have no clue.
I have research, YOU have nothing.
Have the forty years of "research" that you've done come to ANY
correct conclusions?
As I said before, I was the person who corrected the HSCA map. And I was
the only person who wrote a computer program to duplical the acoustical
studies.
And you duplicaled the acoustic studies in such a fabulous manner that
they are now the Gold Standard. Oh, wait, the acoustical studies have been
proven to be a bunch of hogwash. But you just go on living in your fantasy
world, Tony.
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by Jason Burke
I can't think of one.
You're tilting at windmills. And many of them seem to have fallen on you.
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by Jason Burke
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by Jason Burke
Post by Anthony Marsh
PleAE Show mw qhixh jiddlw you rhink is not caused by a shot and
then tell me what caused it. zEnglish please. Show you WHAT?
\\\
What constitutes a jiggle? How long does a sequence of blurry frames have
to be to be a jiggle? What are the jiggle segments of the Zapruder film?
Blur
Anthony Marsh
2021-02-16 23:57:34 UTC
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That requires 4.41 frames for the sound of each shot to reach
Zapruder. I am trying to find some definitive information as
to how long
it would take for an involuntary startle reaction to occur.
I have been
using 200 milliseconds but that I believe is just a rough
estimate. I'm
looking to see if there is a more definite answer. 200
milliseconds is
3.66 Zapruder frames so if that figure is accurate there are
just over 8
seconds from gunshot to jiggle reaction (4.41 + 3.66 = 8.07).
"200 milliseconds is 3.66 Zapruder frames so if that figure is accurate
there are just over 8 *frames* from gunshot to jiggle reaction (4.41 +
3.66 = 8.07)."
Right you are. I made that same mistake a couple months ago and Bud
pointed it out to me. Maybe someday I'll proof read what I write before
posting it. Sometimes my fingers go on auto pilot and don't key what I am
actually thinking.
Given that ???every jiggle doesn???t equate to a
gunshot???, and I admit I am not well-versed in jiggle theory,
I???ve always wondered, doesn???t frame 313 seem to be the
start of a jiggle?
Have you even bothered to read the HSCA analysis? Of course not.
You might learn something.
Have you ever been to Dealey Plaza? Of course not. You might
learn something.
Irrelevant false equivalency.
I don't have to go to the moon to know facts about it.
I have the most accurate map of Dealy Plaza. I corrected the HSCS map.
It's called RESEARCH.
You go with that, sweetie.
Even after all these years, you still have no clue.
I have research, YOU have nothing.
Have the forty years of "research" that you've done come to ANY
correct conclusions?
As I said before, I was the person who corrected the HSCA map. And I
was the only person who wrote a computer program to duplical the
acoustical studies.
And you duplicaled the acoustic studies in such a fabulous manner that
they are now the Gold Standard. Oh, wait, the acoustical studies have
been proven to be a bunch of hogwash. But you just go on living in your
fantasy world, Tony.
Did YOU challenge the Kent State shooing study? Have you ever done ANY
research in your entire life?
Post by Jason Burke
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by Jason Burke
I can't think of one.
You're tilting at windmills. And many of them seem to have fallen on you.
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by Jason Burke
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by Jason Burke
Post by Anthony Marsh
PleAE Show mw qhixh jiddlw you rhink is not caused by a shot and
then tell me what caused it. zEnglish please. Show you WHAT?
\\\
What constitutes a jiggle? How long does a sequence of blurry frames have
to be to be a jiggle? What are the jiggle segments of the Zapruder film?
Blur
Jason Burke
2021-02-17 01:22:42 UTC
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Post by John Corbett
On Saturday, February 6, 2021 at 3:26:57 PM UTC-5, John
On Friday, February 5, 2021 at 2:20:37 PM UTC-5, John
That requires 4.41 frames for the sound of each shot to reach
Zapruder. I am trying to find some definitive information
as to how long
it would take for an involuntary startle reaction to occur.
I have been
using 200 milliseconds but that I believe is just a rough
estimate. I'm
looking to see if there is a more definite answer. 200
milliseconds is
3.66 Zapruder frames so if that figure is accurate there
are just over 8
seconds from gunshot to jiggle reaction (4.41 + 3.66 = 8.07).
"200 milliseconds is 3.66 Zapruder frames so if that figure
is accurate
there are just over 8 *frames* from gunshot to jiggle
reaction (4.41 +
3.66 = 8.07)."
Right you are. I made that same mistake a couple months ago and Bud
pointed it out to me. Maybe someday I'll proof read what I write before
posting it. Sometimes my fingers go on auto pilot and don't
key what I am
actually thinking.
Given that ???every jiggle doesn???t equate to a
gunshot???, and I admit I am not well-versed in jiggle theory,
I???ve always wondered, doesn???t frame 313 seem to be the
start of a jiggle?
Have you even bothered to read the HSCA analysis? Of course
not. You might learn something.
Have you ever been to Dealey Plaza? Of course not. You might
learn something.
Irrelevant false equivalency.
I don't have to go to the moon to know facts about it.
I have the most accurate map of Dealy Plaza. I corrected the HSCS map.
It's called RESEARCH.
You go with that, sweetie.
Even after all these years, you still have no clue.
I have research, YOU have nothing.
Have the forty years of "research" that you've done come to ANY
correct conclusions?
As I said before, I was the person who corrected the HSCA map. And I
was the only person who wrote a computer program to duplical the
acoustical studies.
And you duplicaled the acoustic studies in such a fabulous manner that
they are now the Gold Standard. Oh, wait, the acoustical studies have
been proven to be a bunch of hogwash. But you just go on living in
your fantasy world, Tony.
Did YOU challenge the Kent State shooing study? Have you ever done ANY
research in your entire life?
Yawn.
I'll bet you squared the circle also with your great researching
knowledge and ability. In your spare time, of course. But I'm sure it's
proprietary, so no one else can see it.
Let's face it, Tony, If you had ANYTHING, you'd be running to CNN,
MSNBC, and the rest of the clowns.
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Post by Jason Burke
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by Jason Burke
I can't think of one.
You're tilting at windmills. And many of them seem to have fallen on you.
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by Jason Burke
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by Jason Burke
Post by Anthony Marsh
PleAE Show mw qhixh jiddlw you rhink is not caused by a shot
and then tell me what caused it. zEnglish please. Show you WHAT?
\\\
What constitutes a jiggle? How long does a sequence of blurry frames have
to be to be a jiggle? What are the jiggle segments of the Zapruder film?
Blur
Anthony Marsh
2021-02-17 22:08:52 UTC
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On Saturday, February 6, 2021 at 5:54:18 PM UTC-5, Steve
On Saturday, February 6, 2021 at 3:26:57 PM UTC-5, John
On Friday, February 5, 2021 at 2:20:37 PM UTC-5, John
That requires 4.41 frames for the sound of each shot to reach
Zapruder. I am trying to find some definitive information
as to how long
it would take for an involuntary startle reaction to
occur. I have been
using 200 milliseconds but that I believe is just a rough
estimate. I'm
looking to see if there is a more definite answer. 200
milliseconds is
3.66 Zapruder frames so if that figure is accurate there
are just over 8
seconds from gunshot to jiggle reaction (4.41 + 3.66 = 8.07).
"200 milliseconds is 3.66 Zapruder frames so if that figure
is accurate
there are just over 8 *frames* from gunshot to jiggle
reaction (4.41 +
3.66 = 8.07)."
Right you are. I made that same mistake a couple months ago and Bud
pointed it out to me. Maybe someday I'll proof read what I
write before
posting it. Sometimes my fingers go on auto pilot and don't
key what I am
actually thinking.
Given that ???every jiggle doesn???t equate to a
gunshot???, and I admit I am not well-versed in jiggle theory,
I???ve always wondered, doesn???t frame 313 seem to be the
start of a jiggle?
Have you even bothered to read the HSCA analysis? Of course
not. You might learn something.
Have you ever been to Dealey Plaza? Of course not. You might
learn something.
Irrelevant false equivalency.
I don't have to go to the moon to know facts about it.
I have the most accurate map of Dealy Plaza. I corrected the HSCS map.
It's called RESEARCH.
You go with that, sweetie.
Even after all these years, you still have no clue.
I have research, YOU have nothing.
Have the forty years of "research" that you've done come to ANY
correct conclusions?
As I said before, I was the person who corrected the HSCA map. And I
was the only person who wrote a computer program to duplical the
acoustical studies.
And you duplicaled the acoustic studies in such a fabulous manner
that they are now the Gold Standard. Oh, wait, the acoustical studies
have been proven to be a bunch of hogwash. But you just go on living
in your fantasy world, Tony.
Did YOU challenge the Kent State shooing study? Have you ever done ANY
research in your entire life?
Yawn.
I'll bet you squared the circle also with your great researching
knowledge and ability. In your spare time, of course. But I'm sure it's
proprietary, so no one else can see it.
Let's face it, Tony, If you had ANYTHING, you'd be running to CNN,
MSNBC, and the rest of the clowns.
What have they done on the JFK assassination? Not much.
The cover-up has been widespread.
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Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by Jason Burke
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by Jason Burke
I can't think of one.
You're tilting at windmills. And many of them seem to have fallen on you.
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by Jason Burke
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by Jason Burke
Post by Anthony Marsh
PleAE Show mw qhixh jiddlw you rhink is not caused by a shot
and then tell me what caused it. zEnglish please. Show you WHAT?
\\\
What constitutes a jiggle? How long does a sequence of blurry
frames have
to be to be a jiggle? What are the jiggle segments of the
Zapruder film?
Blur
Jason Burke
2021-02-19 00:44:15 UTC
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On Saturday, February 6, 2021 at 8:19:48 PM UTC-5, John
On Saturday, February 6, 2021 at 5:54:18 PM UTC-5, Steve
On Saturday, February 6, 2021 at 3:26:57 PM UTC-5, John
On Friday, February 5, 2021 at 2:20:37 PM UTC-5, John
That requires 4.41 frames for the sound of each shot to reach
Zapruder. I am trying to find some definitive information
as to how long
it would take for an involuntary startle reaction to
occur. I have been
using 200 milliseconds but that I believe is just a rough
estimate. I'm
looking to see if there is a more definite answer. 200
milliseconds is
3.66 Zapruder frames so if that figure is accurate there
are just over 8
seconds from gunshot to jiggle reaction (4.41 + 3.66 = 8.07).
"200 milliseconds is 3.66 Zapruder frames so if that
figure is accurate
there are just over 8 *frames* from gunshot to jiggle
reaction (4.41 +
3.66 = 8.07)."
Right you are. I made that same mistake a couple months ago and Bud
pointed it out to me. Maybe someday I'll proof read what I
write before
posting it. Sometimes my fingers go on auto pilot and don't
key what I am
actually thinking.
Given that ???every jiggle doesn???t equate to a
gunshot???, and I admit I am not well-versed in jiggle theory,
I???ve always wondered, doesn???t frame 313 seem to be the
start of a jiggle?
Have you even bothered to read the HSCA analysis? Of course
not. You might learn something.
Have you ever been to Dealey Plaza? Of course not. You might
learn something.
Irrelevant false equivalency.
I don't have to go to the moon to know facts about it.
I have the most accurate map of Dealy Plaza. I corrected the HSCS map.
It's called RESEARCH.
You go with that, sweetie.
Even after all these years, you still have no clue.
I have research, YOU have nothing.
Have the forty years of "research" that you've done come to ANY
correct conclusions?
As I said before, I was the person who corrected the HSCA map. And
I was the only person who wrote a computer program to duplical the
acoustical studies.
And you duplicaled the acoustic studies in such a fabulous manner
that they are now the Gold Standard. Oh, wait, the acoustical
studies have been proven to be a bunch of hogwash. But you just go
on living in your fantasy world, Tony.
Did YOU challenge the Kent State shooing study? Have you ever done
ANY research in your entire life?
Yawn.
I'll bet you squared the circle also with your great researching
knowledge and ability. In your spare time, of course. But I'm sure
it's proprietary, so no one else can see it.
Let's face it, Tony, If you had ANYTHING, you'd be running to CNN,
MSNBC, and the rest of the clowns.
What have they done on the JFK assassination? Not much.
The cover-up has been widespread.
No, Tony. It's just that everyone's out to get you.
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Post by Jason Burke
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by Jason Burke
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by Jason Burke
I can't think of one.
You're tilting at windmills. And many of them seem to have fallen on you.
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by Jason Burke
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by Jason Burke
Post by Anthony Marsh
PleAE Show mw qhixh jiddlw you rhink is not caused by a shot
and then tell me what caused it. zEnglish please. Show you WHAT?
\\\
What constitutes a jiggle? How long does a sequence of
blurry frames have
to be to be a jiggle? What are the jiggle segments of the
Zapruder film?
Blur
Anthony Marsh
2021-02-19 04:13:44 UTC
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On Saturday, February 6, 2021 at 8:19:48 PM UTC-5, John
On Saturday, February 6, 2021 at 5:54:18 PM UTC-5, Steve
On Saturday, February 6, 2021 at 3:26:57 PM UTC-5, John
On Friday, February 5, 2021 at 2:20:37 PM UTC-5, John
That requires 4.41 frames for the sound of each shot to reach
Zapruder. I am trying to find some definitive
information as to how long
it would take for an involuntary startle reaction to
occur. I have been
using 200 milliseconds but that I believe is just a
rough estimate. I'm
looking to see if there is a more definite answer. 200
milliseconds is
3.66 Zapruder frames so if that figure is accurate there
are just over 8
seconds from gunshot to jiggle reaction (4.41 + 3.66 = 8.07).
"200 milliseconds is 3.66 Zapruder frames so if that
figure is accurate
there are just over 8 *frames* from gunshot to jiggle
reaction (4.41 +
3.66 = 8.07)."
Right you are. I made that same mistake a couple months
ago and Bud
pointed it out to me. Maybe someday I'll proof read what I
write before
posting it. Sometimes my fingers go on auto pilot and
don't key what I am
actually thinking.
Given that ???every jiggle doesn???t equate to a
gunshot???, and I admit I am not well-versed in jiggle theory,
I???ve always wondered, doesn???t frame 313 seem to be the
start of a jiggle?
Have you even bothered to read the HSCA analysis? Of course
not. You might learn something.
Have you ever been to Dealey Plaza? Of course not. You might
learn something.
Irrelevant false equivalency.
I don't have to go to the moon to know facts about it.
I have the most accurate map of Dealy Plaza. I corrected the HSCS map.
It's called RESEARCH.
You go with that, sweetie.
Even after all these years, you still have no clue.
I have research, YOU have nothing.
Have the forty years of "research" that you've done come to ANY
correct conclusions?
As I said before, I was the person who corrected the HSCA map. And
I was the only person who wrote a computer program to duplical the
acoustical studies.
And you duplicaled the acoustic studies in such a fabulous manner
that they are now the Gold Standard. Oh, wait, the acoustical
studies have been proven to be a bunch of hogwash. But you just go
on living in your fantasy world, Tony.
Did YOU challenge the Kent State shooing study? Have you ever done
ANY research in your entire life?
Yawn.
I'll bet you squared the circle also with your great researching
knowledge and ability. In your spare time, of course. But I'm sure
it's proprietary, so no one else can see it.
Let's face it, Tony, If you had ANYTHING, you'd be running to CNN,
MSNBC, and the rest of the clowns.
What have they done on the JFK assassination? Not much.
The cover-up has been widespread.
No, Tony. It's just that everyone's out to get you.
No, not everyone. just Republicans. That's the only way they can win.
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Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by Jason Burke
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by Jason Burke
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by Jason Burke
I can't think of one.
You're tilting at windmills. And many of them seem to have fallen on you.
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by Jason Burke
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by Jason Burke
Post by Anthony Marsh
PleAE Show mw qhixh jiddlw you rhink is not caused by a shot
and then tell me what caused it. zEnglish please. Show you WHAT?
\\\
What constitutes a jiggle? How long does a sequence of
blurry frames have
to be to be a jiggle? What are the jiggle segments of the
Zapruder film?
Blur
Jason Burke
2021-02-19 14:58:04 UTC
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Post by Anthony Marsh
On Saturday, February 6, 2021 at 8:19:48 PM UTC-5, John
On Saturday, February 6, 2021 at 5:54:18 PM UTC-5, Steve
On Saturday, February 6, 2021 at 3:26:57 PM UTC-5, John
On Friday, February 5, 2021 at 2:20:37 PM UTC-5, John
That requires 4.41 frames for the sound of each shot to
reach
Zapruder. I am trying to find some definitive
information as to how long
it would take for an involuntary startle reaction to
occur. I have been
using 200 milliseconds but that I believe is just a
rough estimate. I'm
looking to see if there is a more definite answer. 200
milliseconds is
3.66 Zapruder frames so if that figure is accurate
there are just over 8
seconds from gunshot to jiggle reaction (4.41 + 3.66 =
8.07).
"200 milliseconds is 3.66 Zapruder frames so if that
figure is accurate
there are just over 8 *frames* from gunshot to jiggle
reaction (4.41 +
3.66 = 8.07)."
Right you are. I made that same mistake a couple months
ago and Bud
pointed it out to me. Maybe someday I'll proof read what
I write before
posting it. Sometimes my fingers go on auto pilot and
don't key what I am
actually thinking.
Given that ???every jiggle doesn???t equate to a
gunshot???, and I admit I am not well-versed in jiggle theory,
I???ve always wondered, doesn???t frame 313 seem to be the
start of a jiggle?
Have you even bothered to read the HSCA analysis? Of course
not. You might learn something.
Have you ever been to Dealey Plaza? Of course not. You might
learn something.
Irrelevant false equivalency.
I don't have to go to the moon to know facts about it.
I have the most accurate map of Dealy Plaza. I corrected the HSCS map.
It's called RESEARCH.
You go with that, sweetie.
Even after all these years, you still have no clue.
I have research, YOU have nothing.
Have the forty years of "research" that you've done come to ANY
correct conclusions?
As I said before, I was the person who corrected the HSCA map.
And I was the only person who wrote a computer program to
duplical the acoustical studies.
And you duplicaled the acoustic studies in such a fabulous manner
that they are now the Gold Standard. Oh, wait, the acoustical
studies have been proven to be a bunch of hogwash. But you just go
on living in your fantasy world, Tony.
Did YOU challenge the Kent State shooing study? Have you ever done
ANY research in your entire life?
Yawn.
I'll bet you squared the circle also with your great researching
knowledge and ability. In your spare time, of course. But I'm sure
it's proprietary, so no one else can see it.
Let's face it, Tony, If you had ANYTHING, you'd be running to CNN,
MSNBC, and the rest of the clowns.
What have they done on the JFK assassination? Not much.
The cover-up has been widespread.
No, Tony. It's just that everyone's out to get you.
No, not everyone. just Republicans. That's the only way they can win.
Delusions of grandeur, eh?
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Post by Jason Burke
I can't think of one.
You're tilting at windmills. And many of them seem to have fallen on you.
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Post by Jason Burke
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by Jason Burke
Post by Anthony Marsh
PleAE Show mw qhixh jiddlw you rhink is not caused by a
shot and then tell me what caused it. zEnglish please. Show
you WHAT?
\\\
What constitutes a jiggle? How long does a sequence of
blurry frames have
to be to be a jiggle? What are the jiggle segments of the
Zapruder film?
Blur
Anthony Marsh
2021-02-20 03:08:58 UTC
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On Saturday, February 6, 2021 at 8:19:48 PM UTC-5, John
On Saturday, February 6, 2021 at 5:54:18 PM UTC-5, Steve
On Saturday, February 6, 2021 at 3:26:57 PM UTC-5, John
On Friday, February 5, 2021 at 2:20:37 PM UTC-5, John
That requires 4.41 frames for the sound of each shot
to reach
Zapruder. I am trying to find some definitive
information as to how long
it would take for an involuntary startle reaction to
occur. I have been
using 200 milliseconds but that I believe is just a
rough estimate. I'm
looking to see if there is a more definite answer. 200
milliseconds is
3.66 Zapruder frames so if that figure is accurate
there are just over 8
seconds from gunshot to jiggle reaction (4.41 + 3.66 =
8.07).
"200 milliseconds is 3.66 Zapruder frames so if that
figure is accurate
there are just over 8 *frames* from gunshot to jiggle
reaction (4.41 +
3.66 = 8.07)."
Right you are. I made that same mistake a couple months
ago and Bud
pointed it out to me. Maybe someday I'll proof read what
I write before
posting it. Sometimes my fingers go on auto pilot and
don't key what I am
actually thinking.
Given that ???every jiggle doesn???t equate to a
gunshot???, and I admit I am not well-versed in jiggle theory,
I???ve always wondered, doesn???t frame 313 seem to be the
start of a jiggle?
Have you even bothered to read the HSCA analysis? Of
course not. You might learn something.
Have you ever been to Dealey Plaza? Of course not. You
might learn something.
Irrelevant false equivalency.
I don't have to go to the moon to know facts about it.
I have the most accurate map of Dealy Plaza. I corrected the
HSCS map.
It's called RESEARCH.
You go with that, sweetie.
Even after all these years, you still have no clue.
I have research, YOU have nothing.
Have the forty years of "research" that you've done come to ANY
correct conclusions?
As I said before, I was the person who corrected the HSCA map.
And I was the only person who wrote a computer program to
duplical the acoustical studies.
And you duplicaled the acoustic studies in such a fabulous manner
that they are now the Gold Standard. Oh, wait, the acoustical
studies have been proven to be a bunch of hogwash. But you just
go on living in your fantasy world, Tony.
Did YOU challenge the Kent State shooing study? Have you ever done
ANY research in your entire life?
Yawn.
You are afraid to answer my questions. You might accidentally tell the
truth and admit that you know nothing.
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I'll bet you squared the circle also with your great researching
knowledge and ability. In your spare time, of course. But I'm sure
it's proprietary, so no one else can see it.
Let's face it, Tony, If you had ANYTHING, you'd be running to CNN,
MSNBC, and the rest of the clowns.
What have they done on the JFK assassination? Not much.
The cover-up has been widespread.
No, Tony. It's just that everyone's out to get you.
No, not everyone. just Republicans. That's the only way they can win.
Delusions of grandeur, eh?
You saying that's why Republicans act the way they do?
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I can't think of one.
You're tilting at windmills. And many of them seem to have fallen on you.
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PleAE Show mw qhixh jiddlw you rhink is not caused by a
shot and then tell me what caused it. zEnglish please.
Show you WHAT?
\\\
What constitutes a jiggle? How long does a sequence of
blurry frames have
to be to be a jiggle? What are the jiggle segments of the
Zapruder film?
Blur
Jason Burke
2021-02-12 02:17:17 UTC
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That requires 4.41 frames for the sound of each shot to reach
Zapruder. I am trying to find some definitive information as to how long
it would take for an involuntary startle reaction to occur. I have been
using 200 milliseconds but that I believe is just a rough estimate. I'm
looking to see if there is a more definite answer. 200
milliseconds is
3.66 Zapruder frames so if that figure is accurate there are just over 8
seconds from gunshot to jiggle reaction (4.41 + 3.66 = 8.07).
"200 milliseconds is 3.66 Zapruder frames so if that figure is accurate
there are just over 8 *frames* from gunshot to jiggle reaction (4.41 +
3.66 = 8.07)."
Right you are. I made that same mistake a couple months ago and Bud
pointed it out to me. Maybe someday I'll proof read what I write before
posting it. Sometimes my fingers go on auto pilot and don't key what I am
actually thinking.
Given that ???every jiggle doesn???t equate to a
gunshot???, and I admit I am not well-versed in jiggle theory,
I???ve always wondered, doesn???t frame 313 seem to be the
start of a jiggle?
Have you even bothered to read the HSCA analysis? Of course not.
You might learn something.
Have you ever been to Dealey Plaza? Of course not. You might learn
something.
Irrelevant false equivalency.
I don't have to go to the moon to know facts about it.
I have the most accurate map of Dealy Plaza. I corrected the HSCS map.
It's called RESEARCH.
You go with that, sweetie.
Even after all these years, you still have no clue.
I have research, YOU have nothing.
Oh, great. A Mass Ave. bus driver is trying to tell ME what a great
researcher HE is. Wasn't that a Matt Damon movie?
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Post by Anthony Marsh
PleAE Show mw qhixh jiddlw you rhink is not caused by a shot and
then tell me what caused it. zEnglish please. Show you WHAT?
\\\
What constitutes a jiggle? How long does a sequence of blurry frames have
to be to be a jiggle? What are the jiggle segments of the Zapruder film?
Blur
donald willis
2021-02-15 19:49:02 UTC
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That requires 4.41 frames for the sound of each shot to reach
Zapruder. I am trying to find some definitive information as to
how long
it would take for an involuntary startle reaction to occur. I have been
using 200 milliseconds but that I believe is just a rough estimate. I'm
looking to see if there is a more definite answer. 200 milliseconds is
3.66 Zapruder frames so if that figure is accurate there are
just over 8
seconds from gunshot to jiggle reaction (4.41 + 3.66 = 8.07).
"200 milliseconds is 3.66 Zapruder frames so if that figure is accurate
there are just over 8 *frames* from gunshot to jiggle reaction (4.41 +
3.66 = 8.07)."
Right you are. I made that same mistake a couple months ago and Bud
pointed it out to me. Maybe someday I'll proof read what I write before
posting it. Sometimes my fingers go on auto pilot and don't key what I am
actually thinking.
Given that ???every jiggle doesn???t equate to a
gunshot???, and I admit I am not well-versed in jiggle theory,
I???ve always wondered, doesn???t frame 313 seem to be the
start of a jiggle?
Have you even bothered to read the HSCA analysis? Of course not.
You might learn something.
Have you ever been to Dealey Plaza? Of course not. You might learn
something.
Irrelevant false equivalency.
I don't have to go to the moon to know facts about it.
I have the most accurate map of Dealy Plaza. I corrected the HSCS map.
It's called RESEARCH.
You go with that, sweetie.
Even after all these years, you still have no clue.
I have research, YOU have nothing.
Oh, great. A Mass Ave. bus driver is trying to tell ME what a great
researcher HE is. Wasn't that a Matt Damon movie?
Yeah, one of the Jason Burke series....
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PleAE Show mw qhixh jiddlw you rhink is not caused by a shot and
then tell me what caused it. zEnglish please. Show you WHAT?
\\\
What constitutes a jiggle? How long does a sequence of blurry frames have
to be to be a jiggle? What are the jiggle segments of the Zapruder film?
Blur
Anthony Marsh
2021-02-09 03:40:27 UTC
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That requires 4.41 frames for the sound of each shot to reach
Zapruder. I am trying to find some definitive information as to how long
it would take for an involuntary startle reaction to occur. I have been
using 200 milliseconds but that I believe is just a rough estimate. I'm
looking to see if there is a more definite answer. 200 milliseconds is
3.66 Zapruder frames so if that figure is accurate there are just over 8
seconds from gunshot to jiggle reaction (4.41 + 3.66 = 8.07).
"200 milliseconds is 3.66 Zapruder frames so if that figure is accurate
there are just over 8 *frames* from gunshot to jiggle reaction (4.41 +
3.66 = 8.07)."
Right you are. I made that same mistake a couple months ago and Bud
pointed it out to me. Maybe someday I'll proof read what I write before
posting it. Sometimes my fingers go on auto pilot and don't key what I am
actually thinking.
Given that ???every jiggle doesn???t equate to a
gunshot???, and I admit I am not well-versed in jiggle theory,
I???ve always wondered, doesn???t frame 313 seem to be the
start of a jiggle?
Have you even bothered to read the HSCA analysis? Of course not. You
might learn something.
PleAE Show mw qhixh jiddlw you rhink is not caused by a shot and then
tell me what caused it.
I have no idea what you are trying to say.
Just read the HSCA analysis and even ALvarez. The big mistake that
alvarez made was trying to link it to a siren.
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What constitutes a jiggle? How long does a sequence of blurry frames have
to be to be a jiggle? What are the jiggle segments of the Zapruder film?
Blur
Steve M. Galbraith
2021-02-07 01:20:01 UTC
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I had been estimating this distance in my earlier calculations but
somebody gave me the actual distance in another thread. I have
been unable to locate that thread or find the answer through a
google search. Does anybody have the correct distance? Thanks
in advance.
I think I have found the answer to my question in this article from
http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/russ/infojfk/jfk6/blur.htm
I believe this is the HSCA analysis of the blurring of the frames which it
is trying to associate with each shot.
It states Zapruder's distance from the sniper's nest was 270 feet. I also
learned something about the camera that I didn't know. I assumed it's
motor was battery powered but from the description it sounds like it is
wound up and the speed is at it's fastest when the camera is fully wound.
I am working on some calculations to try to further refine my estimates of
when each shot was fired. I note some similarities with my previous
calculations and those in the article. However, I must take exception to
one point. It states that since fragments are already airborne in frame
313, it must mean the bullet actually struck at 312. This fails to take
into account that there is a gap between frames while the next frame is
advanced into position to be exposed. I think that if the head explosion
began in 312, we would see fragments starting to fly upward in that frame.
As I have noted before, since Zapruder's distance from the rifle was
constant, there should be a constant time lag between the shot being fired
and Zapruder hearing it. His involuntary startle reaction to each shot
should also be the same. The total time lag from when the shot was fired
until Zapruder reacted should equal the amount of time it takes the sound
of the shot to reach Zapruder plus the amount of time elapsed from when he
heard the shot and when he reacted. Once that figure is know, it should be
quite simple to find the appropriate jiggle for each shot. That's easy for
the two shots that hit JFK. It's 227 and 318. The speed of sound varies
slightly depending on temperature but I am using 1120 fps for my
calculation. That requires 4.41 frames for the sound of each shot to reach
Zapruder. I am trying to find some definitive information as to how long
it would take for an involuntary startle reaction to occur. I have been
using 200 milliseconds but that I believe is just a rough estimate. I'm
looking to see if there is a more definite answer. 200 milliseconds is
3.66 Zapruder frames so if that figure is accurate there are just over 8
seconds from gunshot to jiggle reaction (4.41 + 3.66 = 8.07).
I have a real problem with some of the conclusions in this article but I
will save them for another post when I have gotten some additional
information.
As a side note: Zapruder's granddaughter, Alexandra, said that Marilyn
Sitzman told her mother (Mrs. Zapruder) that Zapruder manually wound the
film (or more accurately the spring) up before he started shooting the
motorcade. That's a bit of double hearsay for what it's worth. Apparently
if the spring is fully wound up there's less over- or underexposure in the
film when you restart it.

Also, there's a lot of technical details about the camera and the film in
Alexandra Zapruder's book about her grandfather and the film.
Edward Bauer
2021-02-07 05:35:00 UTC
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I had been estimating this distance in my earlier calculations but
somebody gave me the actual distance in another thread. I have
been unable to locate that thread or find the answer through a
google search. Does anybody have the correct distance? Thanks
in advance.
I think I have found the answer to my question in this article from
http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/russ/infojfk/jfk6/blur.htm
I believe this is the HSCA analysis of the blurring of the frames which it
is trying to associate with each shot.
It states Zapruder's distance from the sniper's nest was 270 feet. I also
learned something about the camera that I didn't know. I assumed it's
motor was battery powered but from the description it sounds like it is
wound up and the speed is at it's fastest when the camera is fully wound.
I am working on some calculations to try to further refine my estimates of
when each shot was fired. I note some similarities with my previous
calculations and those in the article. However, I must take exception to
one point. It states that since fragments are already airborne in frame
313, it must mean the bullet actually struck at 312. This fails to take
into account that there is a gap between frames while the next frame is
advanced into position to be exposed. I think that if the head explosion
began in 312, we would see fragments starting to fly upward in that frame.
As I have noted before, since Zapruder's distance from the rifle was
constant, there should be a constant time lag between the shot being fired
and Zapruder hearing it. His involuntary startle reaction to each shot
should also be the same. The total time lag from when the shot was fired
until Zapruder reacted should equal the amount of time it takes the sound
of the shot to reach Zapruder plus the amount of time elapsed from when he
heard the shot and when he reacted. Once that figure is know, it should be
quite simple to find the appropriate jiggle for each shot. That's easy for
the two shots that hit JFK. It's 227 and 318. The speed of sound varies
slightly depending on temperature but I am using 1120 fps for my
calculation. That requires 4.41 frames for the sound of each shot to reach
Zapruder. I am trying to find some definitive information as to how long
it would take for an involuntary startle reaction to occur. I have been
using 200 milliseconds but that I believe is just a rough estimate. I'm
looking to see if there is a more definite answer. 200 milliseconds is
3.66 Zapruder frames so if that figure is accurate there are just over 8
seconds from gunshot to jiggle reaction (4.41 + 3.66 = 8.07).
I have a real problem with some of the conclusions in this article but I
will save them for another post when I have gotten some additional
information.
As a side note: Zapruder's granddaughter, Alexandra, said that Marilyn
Sitzman told her mother (Mrs. Zapruder) that Zapruder manually wound the
film (or more accurately the spring) up before he started shooting the
motorcade. That's a bit of double hearsay for what it's worth. Apparently
if the spring is fully wound up there's less over- or underexposure in the
film when you restart it.
Also, there's a lot of technical details about the camera and the film in
Alexandra Zapruder's book about her grandfather and the film.
All these calculations are published in my book, The Final Truth.
However, the crucial frame numbers aren’t when the bullets hit but
when they left Oswald’s rifle. This enables easy jiggle analyses
of every filmer in Dealey Plaza, regardless of their distance from Oswald.
The third shot hit between Z312 and Z313 (for calculation purposes
let’s say Z312.5.) Averaging 2000 feet per second, the bullet
takes 2.5 frames to reach its target. So it exploded from the
Carcano’s muzzle at Z310. That’s the critical frame.
You can read our unique jiggle analyses of the Towner, Bell, Hughes and
Dorman films.

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The Final Truth: Solving the Mystery of the JFK Assassination
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1490350578
John Corbett
2021-02-07 14:14:55 UTC
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I had been estimating this distance in my earlier calculations but
somebody gave me the actual distance in another thread. I have
been unable to locate that thread or find the answer through a
google search. Does anybody have the correct distance? Thanks
in advance.
I think I have found the answer to my question in this article from
http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/russ/infojfk/jfk6/blur.htm
I believe this is the HSCA analysis of the blurring of the frames which it
is trying to associate with each shot.
It states Zapruder's distance from the sniper's nest was 270 feet. I also
learned something about the camera that I didn't know. I assumed it's
motor was battery powered but from the description it sounds like it is
wound up and the speed is at it's fastest when the camera is fully wound.
I am working on some calculations to try to further refine my estimates of
when each shot was fired. I note some similarities with my previous
calculations and those in the article. However, I must take exception to
one point. It states that since fragments are already airborne in frame
313, it must mean the bullet actually struck at 312. This fails to take
into account that there is a gap between frames while the next frame is
advanced into position to be exposed. I think that if the head explosion
began in 312, we would see fragments starting to fly upward in that frame.
As I have noted before, since Zapruder's distance from the rifle was
constant, there should be a constant time lag between the shot being fired
and Zapruder hearing it. His involuntary startle reaction to each shot
should also be the same. The total time lag from when the shot was fired
until Zapruder reacted should equal the amount of time it takes the sound
of the shot to reach Zapruder plus the amount of time elapsed from when he
heard the shot and when he reacted. Once that figure is know, it should be
quite simple to find the appropriate jiggle for each shot. That's easy for
the two shots that hit JFK. It's 227 and 318. The speed of sound varies
slightly depending on temperature but I am using 1120 fps for my
calculation. That requires 4.41 frames for the sound of each shot to reach
Zapruder. I am trying to find some definitive information as to how long
it would take for an involuntary startle reaction to occur. I have been
using 200 milliseconds but that I believe is just a rough estimate. I'm
looking to see if there is a more definite answer. 200 milliseconds is
3.66 Zapruder frames so if that figure is accurate there are just over 8
seconds from gunshot to jiggle reaction (4.41 + 3.66 = 8.07).
I have a real problem with some of the conclusions in this article but I
will save them for another post when I have gotten some additional
information.
As a side note: Zapruder's granddaughter, Alexandra, said that Marilyn
Sitzman told her mother (Mrs. Zapruder) that Zapruder manually wound the
film (or more accurately the spring) up before he started shooting the
motorcade. That's a bit of double hearsay for what it's worth. Apparently
if the spring is fully wound up there's less over- or underexposure in the
film when you restart it.
Also, there's a lot of technical details about the camera and the film in
Alexandra Zapruder's book about her grandfather and the film.
All these calculations are published in my book, The Final Truth.
However, the crucial frame numbers aren’t when the bullets hit but
when they left Oswald’s rifle.
That's what I calculated. My preliminary calculation indicates about an 8
frame time lag between when the shot was fired until we see the jiggle in
the camera.
Post by Edward Bauer
This enables easy jiggle analyses
of every filmer in Dealey Plaza, regardless of their distance from Oswald.
The third shot hit between Z312 and Z313 (for calculation purposes
let’s say Z312.5.) Averaging 2000 feet per second, the bullet
takes 2.5 frames to reach its target. So it exploded from the
Carcano’s muzzle at Z310. That’s the critical frame.
You can read our unique jiggle analyses of the Towner, Bell, Hughes and
Dorman films.
It's quibbling but my calculations indicate there are 2.6352 frames
elapsed from the shot being fired until impact using a distance of 288
feet and an average bullet velocity of 2000 fps ((288 / 2000) X 18.3) =
2.6352. There are some figures for which we must use estimates such as the
average velocity of the bullet and the speed of sound at that time but
within those limitations I am trying to make these calculations as precise
as possible. That is the reason I asked for Zapruder's actual distance to
the sniper's nest.

Another limitation is that we do not know precisely when an event began
because the precise instant of any event could be early during the
exposure of a frame, late during the exposure, or in the gap between
exposures. This is true of when the shot was fired, when the shot struck,
and when the jiggle began. It's appearing that there are very close to 8
full frames from when the shot was fired until the camera jiggled but we
cannot be certain at the precise instant to start counting those frames. A
shot fired late in 310 would strike during the exposure of 313 and the
jiggle would begin late in 318 but if it was fired earlier in 310 it could
have struck during the 312-313 gap. I am dismissing the possibility that
the strike could have occurred late in 312 because I think we would see
some visual evidence of it had that happened.
Anthony Marsh
2021-02-07 14:14:49 UTC
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Post by John Corbett
I had been estimating this distance in my earlier calculations but
somebody gave me the actual distance in another thread. I have
been unable to locate that thread or find the answer through a
google search. Does anybody have the correct distance? Thanks
in advance.
I think I have found the answer to my question in this article from
http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/russ/infojfk/jfk6/blur.htm
I believe this is the HSCA analysis of the blurring of the frames which it
is trying to associate with each shot.
It states Zapruder's distance from the sniper's nest was 270 feet. I also
learned something about the camera that I didn't know. I assumed it's
motor was battery powered but from the description it sounds like it is
wound up and the speed is at it's fastest when the camera is fully wound.
I am working on some calculations to try to further refine my estimates of
when each shot was fired. I note some similarities with my previous
calculations and those in the article. However, I must take exception to
one point. It states that since fragments are already airborne in frame
313, it must mean the bullet actually struck at 312. This fails to take
into account that there is a gap between frames while the next frame is
advanced into position to be exposed. I think that if the head explosion
began in 312, we would see fragments starting to fly upward in that frame.
As I have noted before, since Zapruder's distance from the rifle was
constant, there should be a constant time lag between the shot being fired
and Zapruder hearing it. His involuntary startle reaction to each shot
should also be the same. The total time lag from when the shot was fired
until Zapruder reacted should equal the amount of time it takes the sound
of the shot to reach Zapruder plus the amount of time elapsed from when he
heard the shot and when he reacted. Once that figure is know, it should be
quite simple to find the appropriate jiggle for each shot. That's easy for
the two shots that hit JFK. It's 227 and 318. The speed of sound varies
slightly depending on temperature but I am using 1120 fps for my
calculation. That requires 4.41 frames for the sound of each shot to reach
Zapruder. I am trying to find some definitive information as to how long
it would take for an involuntary startle reaction to occur. I have been
using 200 milliseconds but that I believe is just a rough estimate. I'm
looking to see if there is a more definite answer. 200 milliseconds is
3.66 Zapruder frames so if that figure is accurate there are just over 8
seconds from gunshot to jiggle reaction (4.41 + 3.66 = 8.07).
I have a real problem with some of the conclusions in this article but I
will save them for another post when I have gotten some additional
information.
OMG! A WC website actually did research.
Is this one of the 7 signs?
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