Kennedy’s limousine

Kennedy???s limousine
http://frankwarner.typepad.com/free_frank_warner/2011/05/kenned.html
http://frankwarner.typepad.com/.a/6a00d83451cd3769e2014e88c25e3f970d-pi

Please tell us that you don't actually believe his diagrams. This is only
the latest of many failed attempt. Look at where he puts the hat.

In an early attempt he had the bullet go through Connally's THUMB and into
his hat. So Connally CAUGHT CE 399 with his hat?

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The guy is a moron.

bigdog

2017-04-30 00:17:10 UTC

Post by claviger
Kennedy’s limousine
http://frankwarner.typepad.com/free_frank_warner/2011/05/kenned.html
http://frankwarner.typepad.com/.a/6a00d83451cd3769e2014e88c25e3f970d-pi

There is ample photographic evidence that shows Connally was well inboard
of JFK. Some of the most compelling is that taken by David Powers from the
Queen Mary. It shows Connally almost a half a body width to the left of
JFK.

In the comments section of the first web page, someone cited Dr. Shaw as
saying the downward angle through Connally was about 25 degrees whereas
Oswald was firing at a downward angle of 21 degrees. Like other criticisms
of the SBT, this one makes invalid assumptions. It assumes Connally's
torso was perfectly vertical when struck. Since Connally was attempting to
look over his right shoulder when hit, his torso would naturally tilt
backward. All he would have needed was a 4 degree rearward tilt to make
the angle work.

Anthony Marsh

2017-05-01 02:19:39 UTC

Post by claviger
Kennedy’s limousine
http://frankwarner.typepad.com/free_frank_warner/2011/05/kenned.html
http://frankwarner.typepad.com/.a/6a00d83451cd3769e2014e88c25e3f970d-pi

Close enough for a WC defender.
And again that assumes a perfectly straight line trajectory.

Post by bigdog
torso was perfectly vertical when struck. Since Connally was attempting to
look over his right shoulder when hit, his torso would naturally tilt
backward. All he would have needed was a 4 degree rearward tilt to make
the angle work.

Silly. Connally did not need to tilt back.
You're almost as bad as the HSCA saying that JFK was leaning over tying
his shoe laces to turn the 4 degree angle into 22.

mainframetech

2017-05-01 02:28:25 UTC

Post by claviger
Kennedy’s limousine
http://frankwarner.typepad.com/free_frank_warner/2011/05/kenned.html
http://frankwarner.typepad.com/.a/6a00d83451cd3769e2014e88c25e3f970d-pi

There is ample photographic evidence that shows Connally was well inboard
of JFK. Some of the most compelling is that taken by David Powers from the
Queen Mary. It shows Connally almost a half a body width to the left of
JFK.
In the comments section of the first web page, someone cited Dr. Shaw as
saying the downward angle through Connally was about 25 degrees whereas
Oswald was firing at a downward angle of 21 degrees. Like other criticisms
of the SBT, this one makes invalid assumptions. It assumes Connally's
torso was perfectly vertical when struck. Since Connally was attempting to
look over his right shoulder when hit, his torso would naturally tilt
backward. All he would have needed was a 4 degree rearward tilt to make
the angle work.

What phony baloney! Here's a photo of the 2 men in the limousine.
Notice that they are BOTH against the right side of the limo:

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JFK looks just a bit more to the right than Connally, but that's
because he has his arm hanging out. Their torsos are just about even
front to back. I wonder who measured the 4 degrees, and what instrument
they used.

Chris

Anthony Marsh

2017-05-02 14:57:54 UTC

Post by claviger
Kennedy’s limousine
http://frankwarner.typepad.com/free_frank_warner/2011/05/kenned.html
http://frankwarner.typepad.com/.a/6a00d83451cd3769e2014e88c25e3f970d-pi

There is ample photographic evidence that shows Connally was well inboard
of JFK. Some of the most compelling is that taken by David Powers from the
Queen Mary. It shows Connally almost a half a body width to the left of
JFK.
In the comments section of the first web page, someone cited Dr. Shaw as
saying the downward angle through Connally was about 25 degrees whereas
Oswald was firing at a downward angle of 21 degrees. Like other criticisms
of the SBT, this one makes invalid assumptions. It assumes Connally's
torso was perfectly vertical when struck. Since Connally was attempting to
look over his right shoulder when hit, his torso would naturally tilt
backward. All he would have needed was a 4 degree rearward tilt to make
the angle work.

What phony baloney! Here's a photo of the 2 men in the limousine.
http://www.irishcentral.com/uploads/assets/resized_cropped_CUT_John_F_Kennedy_Jackie_Nov_22_Dallas.jpg
JFK looks just a bit more to the right than Connally, but that's
because he has his arm hanging out. Their torsos are just about even
front to back. I wonder who measured the 4 degrees, and what instrument
they used.
Chris

That's because the lap robe holder sticks out 3-1/2 inches and the jump
seat is almost 6 inches to the left of the side of the limo where JFK
was sitting in the rear seat.
No one measured 4 degrees. That is the difference between the esimated
angle and what is needed to make a SBT work.

bigdog

2017-05-03 14:54:43 UTC

Post by claviger
Kennedy’s limousine
http://frankwarner.typepad.com/free_frank_warner/2011/05/kenned.html
http://frankwarner.typepad.com/.a/6a00d83451cd3769e2014e88c25e3f970d-pi

There is ample photographic evidence that shows Connally was well inboard
of JFK. Some of the most compelling is that taken by David Powers from the
Queen Mary. It shows Connally almost a half a body width to the left of
JFK.
In the comments section of the first web page, someone cited Dr. Shaw as
saying the downward angle through Connally was about 25 degrees whereas
Oswald was firing at a downward angle of 21 degrees. Like other criticisms
of the SBT, this one makes invalid assumptions. It assumes Connally's
torso was perfectly vertical when struck. Since Connally was attempting to
look over his right shoulder when hit, his torso would naturally tilt
backward. All he would have needed was a 4 degree rearward tilt to make
the angle work.

I don't suppose you noticed that JFK's right arm is resting on the side of
the car while Connally's right arm is inside the car. If you want to see
how much inboard Connally was in relation to JFK you need to look photos
of JFK taken by David Powers from the Queen Mary such as the one below. As
you can see Connally's head is inside of both JFK and Kellerman.

https://www.bing.com/images/search?view=detailV2&ccid=sN6vhWrT&id=2D66E661CD5EAAD84CA614A2530ABB84D3F8FFF7&thid=OIP.sN6vhWrTGzdVzytpDJrMzwEsDh&q=david+powers+photo+jfk+motorcade+dallas&simid=608017085353889306&selectedIndex=4&ajaxhist=0

I look forward to the excuse you come up to explain away this inconvenient
exhibit.

Anthony Marsh

2017-05-04 03:09:17 UTC

Post by claviger
Kennedy’s limousine
http://frankwarner.typepad.com/free_frank_warner/2011/05/kenned.html
http://frankwarner.typepad.com/.a/6a00d83451cd3769e2014e88c25e3f970d-pi

There is ample photographic evidence that shows Connally was well inboard
of JFK. Some of the most compelling is that taken by David Powers from the
Queen Mary. It shows Connally almost a half a body width to the left of
JFK.
In the comments section of the first web page, someone cited Dr. Shaw as
saying the downward angle through Connally was about 25 degrees whereas
Oswald was firing at a downward angle of 21 degrees. Like other criticisms
of the SBT, this one makes invalid assumptions. It assumes Connally's
torso was perfectly vertical when struck. Since Connally was attempting to
look over his right shoulder when hit, his torso would naturally tilt
backward. All he would have needed was a 4 degree rearward tilt to make
the angle work.

I don't suppose you noticed that JFK's right arm is resting on the side of
the car while Connally's right arm is inside the car. If you want to see

Yes, that confirms that his torso was against the side of the car.

Post by bigdog
how much inboard Connally was in relation to JFK you need to look photos
of JFK taken by David Powers from the Queen Mary such as the one below. As
you can see Connally's head is inside of both JFK and Kellerman.

Been there, done that. Still not enough to get YOUR SBT to work. Keep
trying.

Post by bigdog
https://www.bing.com/images/search?view=detailV2&ccid=sN6vhWrT&id=2D66E661CD5EAAD84CA614A2530ABB84D3F8FFF7&thid=OIP.sN6vhWrTGzdVzytpDJrMzwEsDh&q=david+powers+photo+jfk+motorcade+dallas&simid=608017085353889306&selectedIndex=4&ajaxhist=0
I look forward to the excuse you come up to explain away this inconvenient
exhibit.

mainframetech

2017-05-04 03:24:07 UTC

Post by claviger
Kennedy’s limousine
http://frankwarner.typepad.com/free_frank_warner/2011/05/kenned.html
http://frankwarner.typepad.com/.a/6a00d83451cd3769e2014e88c25e3f970d-pi

There is ample photographic evidence that shows Connally was well inboard
of JFK. Some of the most compelling is that taken by David Powers from the
Queen Mary. It shows Connally almost a half a body width to the left of
JFK.
In the comments section of the first web page, someone cited Dr. Shaw as
saying the downward angle through Connally was about 25 degrees whereas
Oswald was firing at a downward angle of 21 degrees. Like other criticisms
of the SBT, this one makes invalid assumptions. It assumes Connally's
torso was perfectly vertical when struck. Since Connally was attempting to
look over his right shoulder when hit, his torso would naturally tilt
backward. All he would have needed was a 4 degree rearward tilt to make
the angle work.

I don't suppose you noticed that JFK's right arm is resting on the side of
the car while Connally's right arm is inside the car. If you want to see
how much inboard Connally was in relation to JFK you need to look photos
of JFK taken by David Powers from the Queen Mary such as the one below. As
you can see Connally's head is inside of both JFK and Kellerman.
https://www.bing.com/images/search?view=detailV2&ccid=sN6vhWrT&id=2D66E661CD5EAAD84CA614A2530ABB84D3F8FFF7&thid=OIP.sN6vhWrTGzdVzytpDJrMzwEsDh&q=david+powers+photo+jfk+motorcade+dallas&simid=608017085353889306&selectedIndex=4&ajaxhist=0
I look forward to the excuse you come up to explain away this inconvenient
exhibit.

WRONG! I like your photo! If you look closely, you'll see that
Connally is tipped back a bit as if looking upward, making him look like
he was sitting to the left, when he was really just leaning that way.
And JFK is again still laying his arm over the edge giving the impression
he is farther to the outside of the limo than he really is. The photo
shows exactly what I was saying. Thanks!

Chris

bigdog

2017-05-04 22:23:45 UTC

Post by claviger
Kennedy’s limousine
http://frankwarner.typepad.com/free_frank_warner/2011/05/kenned.html
http://frankwarner.typepad.com/.a/6a00d83451cd3769e2014e88c25e3f970d-pi

There is ample photographic evidence that shows Connally was well inboard
of JFK. Some of the most compelling is that taken by David Powers from the
Queen Mary. It shows Connally almost a half a body width to the left of
JFK.
In the comments section of the first web page, someone cited Dr. Shaw as
saying the downward angle through Connally was about 25 degrees whereas
Oswald was firing at a downward angle of 21 degrees. Like other criticisms
of the SBT, this one makes invalid assumptions. It assumes Connally's
torso was perfectly vertical when struck. Since Connally was attempting to
look over his right shoulder when hit, his torso would naturally tilt
backward. All he would have needed was a 4 degree rearward tilt to make
the angle work.

I don't suppose you noticed that JFK's right arm is resting on the side of
the car while Connally's right arm is inside the car. If you want to see
how much inboard Connally was in relation to JFK you need to look photos
of JFK taken by David Powers from the Queen Mary such as the one below. As
you can see Connally's head is inside of both JFK and Kellerman.
https://www.bing.com/images/search?view=detailV2&ccid=sN6vhWrT&id=2D66E661CD5EAAD84CA614A2530ABB84D3F8FFF7&thid=OIP.sN6vhWrTGzdVzytpDJrMzwEsDh&q=david+powers+photo+jfk+motorcade+dallas&simid=608017085353889306&selectedIndex=4&ajaxhist=0
I look forward to the excuse you come up to explain away this inconvenient
exhibit.

And I thought you were going to come up with something really stupid.
<chuckle>

Anthony Marsh

2017-05-05 04:21:31 UTC

Post by claviger
Kennedy’s limousine
http://frankwarner.typepad.com/free_frank_warner/2011/05/kenned.html
http://frankwarner.typepad.com/.a/6a00d83451cd3769e2014e88c25e3f970d-pi

There is ample photographic evidence that shows Connally was well inboard
of JFK. Some of the most compelling is that taken by David Powers from the
Queen Mary. It shows Connally almost a half a body width to the left of
JFK.
In the comments section of the first web page, someone cited Dr. Shaw as
saying the downward angle through Connally was about 25 degrees whereas
Oswald was firing at a downward angle of 21 degrees. Like other criticisms
of the SBT, this one makes invalid assumptions. It assumes Connally's
torso was perfectly vertical when struck. Since Connally was attempting to
look over his right shoulder when hit, his torso would naturally tilt
backward. All he would have needed was a 4 degree rearward tilt to make
the angle work.

I don't suppose you noticed that JFK's right arm is resting on the side of
the car while Connally's right arm is inside the car. If you want to see
how much inboard Connally was in relation to JFK you need to look photos
of JFK taken by David Powers from the Queen Mary such as the one below. As
you can see Connally's head is inside of both JFK and Kellerman.
https://www.bing.com/images/search?view=detailV2&ccid=sN6vhWrT&id=2D66E661CD5EAAD84CA614A2530ABB84D3F8FFF7&thid=OIP.sN6vhWrTGzdVzytpDJrMzwEsDh&q=david+powers+photo+jfk+motorcade+dallas&simid=608017085353889306&selectedIndex=4&ajaxhist=0
I look forward to the excuse you come up to explain away this inconvenient
exhibit.

Silly. Connally HAD to be to the left of JFK. That is the way the jump
seat was made.

claviger

2017-05-09 21:38:46 UTC

John F. Kennedy Presidential Library and Museum
Photograph, Presidential Limousine
https://www.jfklibrary.org/Asset-Viewer/Archives/JFKPOF-132-005-p0038.aspx

claviger

2017-05-04 22:11:19 UTC

Popular Research Topics
Kennedy Presidential Limousine
A tragic day in American history remembered
https://www.thehenryford.org/collections-and-research/digital-resources/popular-topics/kennedy-limo

50 Years After JFK Assassination, His Limo Tells A Story
The 1961 Lincoln Continental is on display at The Henry Ford museum in
Dearborn, Mich.
http://www.autoblog.com/2013/11/05/50-years-after-jfk-assassination-his-limo-tells-a-story/

(8) Men of Courage: President Kennedy-elimination Evidence, Motives,
Suspects, Discoveries, + Dedicated Private Citizens Researchers,
provided by Donald Roberdeau (page 8 of 14)
http://droberdeau.blogspot.com/2011/05/page-8.html
Here is the professionally scaled diagram of the Presidential
limousine detailing the windshield's inside surface bullet
fragment-caused glass defect precise location....
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Keeping an eye on the windshield
http://forum.jfkmurdersolved.com/viewtopic.php?p=29039
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Limousine
http://www.kenrahn.com/Marsh/Limousine/Limousine.html
limo_00degrees.gif
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limo_18degrees.gif
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limo99.gif
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LimoWindCrk.jpg
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LimoWindFul.jpg
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The Pulitzer Post
http://www.artearthmann.com/conspiracyFolder/Conspiracy.html
JFK's 1/4" front throat wound could have come from several different angles:
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claviger

2017-05-04 22:11:48 UTC