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Bugliosi for Von Pein
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John Deagle
2021-02-01 13:11:17 UTC
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David Von Pein
2021-02-02 12:20:40 UTC
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Post by John Deagle
http://youtu.be/302dh1wxYzE
Much obliged, John. But I've already got that Bugliosi interview. I found
it online on Sep. 16, 2017, at 10 PM (just in case you're keeping a log
book of the raw stats & data). 😁 I added that Geraldo program
to my Vincent B. archive on that date.

http://vincent-bugliosi.blogspot.com

Thanks for telling me about it anyway, John. I appreciate such audio/video
notifications regarding things related to Vince B., JFK, Reds baseball
games, airplane disasters, and old newscasts from the 1960s & '70s (among
other topics).

If you find more VB interviews you think I might not possess, give me a
shout at ***@aol.com. I'm always searching for more VB stuff. I've
archived dozens of his interviews during his "Reclaiming History" book
tour in 2007, but I know there are many more out there I haven't managed
to save yet.
John Corbett
2021-02-02 18:08:11 UTC
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Post by John Deagle
http://youtu.be/302dh1wxYzE
Much obliged, John. But I've already got that Bugliosi interview. I found
it online on Sep. 16, 2017, at 10 PM (just in case you're keeping a log
book of the raw stats & data). 😁 I added that Geraldo program
to my Vincent B. archive on that date.
http://vincent-bugliosi.blogspot.com
Thanks for telling me about it anyway, John. I appreciate such audio/video
notifications regarding things related to Vince B., JFK, Reds baseball
games, airplane disasters, and old newscasts from the 1960s & '70s (among
other topics).
If you find more VB interviews you think I might not possess, give me a
archived dozens of his interviews during his "Reclaiming History" book
tour in 2007, but I know there are many more out there I haven't managed
to save yet.
I almost commented that you probably already had it but I decided to let
you clear that up. I considered it a minor victory a few weeks ago when I
found something you DIDN'T have.

I hope you have your archives well backed up. They are a treasure trove of
information. A sort of electronic time capsule.
David Von Pein
2021-02-03 04:28:22 UTC
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Post by John Corbett
I hope you have your archives well backed up.
Yes, indeed, I do. Backed up in three places, in fact.

And it's a good thing the size of computer hard drives and external hard
drives have increased by leaps and bounds since I bought my first computer
in 2000. My first PC had a hard drive that was measured in megabytes,
rather than the terabyte I have now. In those "old days" of tiny hard
drives, I wouldn't be able to store any long videos at all. I would have
probably needed 3 of my first Gateway PCs to store just one three-hour
video of average 480p quality.
John Corbett
2021-02-04 03:08:33 UTC
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Post by David Von Pein
Post by John Corbett
I hope you have your archives well backed up.
Yes, indeed, I do. Backed up in three places, in fact.
And it's a good thing the size of computer hard drives and external hard
drives have increased by leaps and bounds since I bought my first computer
in 2000. My first PC had a hard drive that was measured in megabytes,
rather than the terabyte I have now. In those "old days" of tiny hard
drives, I wouldn't be able to store any long videos at all. I would have
probably needed 3 of my first Gateway PCs to store just one three-hour
video of average 480p quality.
I had the first generation Mac. 512K of memory. I thought that was a lot
because the IBM 370 mainframe I worked on when I got into the programming
field had 512K. The technical school I attended after I left baseball had
a Univac 9200 with 8K of memory. I think my toaster oven has more than
that now. They replaced it with a IBM 360 which had 64K of memory. It was
already obsolete which is why our school got it cheap, but we thought it
was awesome. What did we know?

The standard storage for the Mac was the 3.5" floppy. I had lots of those.
Mostly what we stored was data which requires little space and even the
graphics were monochrome which requires a lot less than color. I ended up
buying a 20M hard drive that was the size of a toaster. A friend of mine
said after ten years of storing things on it, it would probably say 1%
full.

The amazing thing was the cost. My first Mac cost $2800 in 1984 dollars.
My inflation calculator tells me that would cost $6974.69 in today's
dollars. By the 1990s I had switched to IBM clones and those would cost
about $2000 every time I upgraded which would almost be necessary about
every two years. Now they practically give away the hardware and make
their money on software. I've had the same laptop now for about 6-7 years
and my first laptop was about the same.
Steve M. Galbraith
2021-02-04 13:46:43 UTC
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Post by John Deagle
http://youtu.be/302dh1wxYzE
One of the interesting points in that discussion between Rivera and
Bugliosi was the failure of the prosecution team to bring up Simpson
telling the police that he forgot how he cut his finger (he originally
said it was in the hotel but later said he couldn't recall). As VB pointed
out, if you cut your finger as deeply as OJ did you'd remember how you did
it. And you'd put a bandage on it to stop from bleeding all over your
house. Simpson didn't; his blood was all over his bedroom, car, et cetera.

I'm trying to imagine how a JFK conspiracy advocate/Oswald defender would
respond to that piece of evidence. They'd probably say, "Lots of people
cut their fingers, it doesn't prove he killed those people." Yes, but
Simpson wasn't like "lots of people." He did specific things - like Oswald
did - that separated him from those other "people." You can't single out a
piece of evidence - strip it from any other context - and say that and
that alone doesn't prove "X". Which is what the Oswald defenders too often
do.
John Corbett
2021-02-04 15:17:05 UTC
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Post by John Deagle
http://youtu.be/302dh1wxYzE
One of the interesting points in that discussion between Rivera and
Bugliosi was the failure of the prosecution team to bring up Simpson
telling the police that he forgot how he cut his finger (he originally
said it was in the hotel but later said he couldn't recall). As VB pointed
out, if you cut your finger as deeply as OJ did you'd remember how you did
it. And you'd put a bandage on it to stop from bleeding all over your
house. Simpson didn't; his blood was all over his bedroom, car, et cetera.
I think the case was lost when the prosecution made the foolish decision
to allow the case to be tried in downtown LA rather than in the
jurisdiction where the crime was committed. That all but guaranteed a
sympathetic jury. That was followed by the blunder of having OJ try on the
gloves in the courtroom. The gloves had probably shrunk somewhat after
being soaked and then dried out. The jury was looking for any excuse at
all to disregard the overwhelming evidence of Oswald's guilt and the
prosecutors handed them one on a silver platter.
Post by Steve M. Galbraith
I'm trying to imagine how a JFK conspiracy advocate/Oswald defender would
respond to that piece of evidence. They'd probably say, "Lots of people
cut their fingers, it doesn't prove he killed those people." Yes, but
Simpson wasn't like "lots of people." He did specific things - like Oswald
did - that separated him from those other "people." You can't single out a
piece of evidence - strip it from any other context - and say that and
that alone doesn't prove "X". Which is what the Oswald defenders too often
do.
I would bet the jury's thought process was very much like that of the
typical conspiracy hobbyist. The latter want desperately to exonerate
Oswald and will invent just about any excuse necessary to dismiss each and
ever piece of compelling evidence of his guilt. Ditto for the OJ jury.
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