The History Of Socialism And Capitalism

ajohnstone

2020-10-27 20:01:39 UTC

Socialism explained in 3 minutes

But if you got time, a longer video that explains socialism without even
mentioning the word for those who are already too partisan to weigh up the
argument presented.

Anthony Marsh

2020-10-27 20:02:06 UTC

Post by MR. X
http://youtu.be/0iRvEPcQV3I

When you can think of anything, jut say Socialism to scare everybody.

John Corbett

2020-10-28 04:00:29 UTC

Post by MR. X
http://youtu.be/0iRvEPcQV3I

When you can think of anything, jut say Socialism to scare everybody.

OK.

SOCIALISM. That's enough to scare everybody. Especially since there is a
very good chance it is about to become a reality in the US.

ajohnstone

2020-10-29 02:33:33 UTC

Post by John Corbett
SOCIALISM. That's enough to scare everybody. Especially since there is a
very good chance it is about to become a reality in the US.

Absolute fantasy. Only if people accept a definition of socialism that
nobody else on the planet accepts can such an idea be classed as reality.

Biden is a centre-right politician who has some policies that calls for
increased government intervention and higher government spending, both
well within levels of previous Republican presidents.

Nor would the scenario of Harris becoming president be a move anywhere
near socialism.

Jason Burke

2020-10-29 23:40:27 UTC

Post by John Corbett
SOCIALISM. That's enough to scare everybody. Especially since there is a
very good chance it is about to become a reality in the US.

Absolute fantasy. Only if people accept a definition of socialism that
nobody else on the planet accepts can such an idea be classed as reality.
Biden is a centre-right politician who has some policies that calls for
increased government intervention and higher government spending, both
well within levels of previous Republican presidents.
Nor would the scenario of Harris becoming president be a move anywhere
near socialism.

Harris would skip right through socialism.

Anthony Marsh

2020-11-01 03:39:55 UTC

Post by John Corbett
SOCIALISM. That's enough to scare everybody. Especially since there is a
very good chance it is about to become a reality in the US.

Absolute fantasy. Only if people accept a definition of socialism that
nobody else on the planet accepts can such an idea be classed as reality.
Biden is a centre-right politician who has some policies that calls for
increased government intervention and higher government spending, both
well within levels of previous Republican presidents.
Nor would the scenario of Harris becoming president be a move anywhere
near socialism.

Harris would skip right through socialism.

So your only alternative is Nazism?

Jason Burke

2020-11-01 21:20:21 UTC

Post by John Corbett
SOCIALISM. That's enough to scare everybody. Especially since there is a
very good chance it is about to become a reality in the US.

Absolute fantasy. Only if people accept a definition of socialism that
nobody else on the planet accepts can such an idea be classed as reality.
Biden is a centre-right politician who has some policies that calls for
increased government intervention and higher government spending, both
well within levels of previous Republican presidents.
Nor would the scenario of Harris becoming president be a move anywhere
near socialism.

Harris would skip right through socialism.

So your only alternative is Nazism?

Now there you go again, Tony.

Haven't you realized that you've embarrassed yourselves about 6,847 times
via Godwin's law?

Gee. I suppose you could google it. You DO what google is, don't you,
Tony?

John Corbett

2020-11-02 14:26:33 UTC

Post by John Corbett
SOCIALISM. That's enough to scare everybody. Especially since there is a
very good chance it is about to become a reality in the US.

Absolute fantasy. Only if people accept a definition of socialism that
nobody else on the planet accepts can such an idea be classed as reality.
Biden is a centre-right politician who has some policies that calls for
increased government intervention and higher government spending, both
well within levels of previous Republican presidents.
Nor would the scenario of Harris becoming president be a move anywhere
near socialism.

Harris would skip right through socialism.

So your only alternative is Nazism?

Now there you go again, Tony.
Haven't you realized that you've embarrassed yourselves about 6,847 times
via Godwin's law?

I'd only counted 6,846. I must have missed one.

Anthony Marsh

2020-11-07 00:56:27 UTC

Post by John Corbett
SOCIALISM. That's enough to scare everybody. Especially since there is a
very good chance it is about to become a reality in the US.

Absolute fantasy. Only if people accept a definition of socialism that
nobody else on the planet accepts can such an idea be classed as reality.
Biden is a centre-right politician who has some policies that calls for
increased government intervention and higher government spending, both
well within levels of previous Republican presidents.
Nor would the scenario of Harris becoming president be a move anywhere
near socialism.

Harris would skip right through socialism.

So your only alternative is Nazism?

Now there you go again, Tony.
Haven't you realized that you've embarrassed yourselves about 6,847
times via Godwin's law?
Gee. I suppose you could google it. You DO what google is, don't you, Tony?

All you can do is make personal attacks.
I obect to your fear mongering.

John Corbett

2020-10-29 23:40:41 UTC

Post by John Corbett
SOCIALISM. That's enough to scare everybody. Especially since there is a
very good chance it is about to become a reality in the US.

Absolute fantasy. Only if people accept a definition of socialism that
nobody else on the planet accepts can such an idea be classed as reality.
Biden is a centre-right politician who has some policies that calls for
increased government intervention and higher government spending, both
well within levels of previous Republican presidents.
Nor would the scenario of Harris becoming president be a move anywhere
near socialism.

If you think Biden is a center-right politician, you must be to the left
of AOC. That's out there in La-La land.

Anthony Marsh

2020-10-30 00:58:45 UTC

Post by John Corbett
SOCIALISM. That's enough to scare everybody. Especially since there is a
very good chance it is about to become a reality in the US.

Absolute fantasy. Only if people accept a definition of socialism that
nobody else on the planet accepts can such an idea be classed as reality.

THE ONLY people you are impressing by talking about Soccialism are the
Nazis who want kill everybody.

Post by ajohnstone
Biden is a centre-right politician who has some policies that calls for

Not much left.

Post by ajohnstone
increased government intervention and higher government spending, both
well within levels of previous Republican presidents.

Yeah, what's wrong with that? You think the Nazsis didn's intervene?
You think the Jews wanted to go to the concentration camps for vacation?

Post by ajohnstone
Nor would the scenario of Harris becoming president be a move anywhere
near socialism.

WOW, YOU Learned a new word. Keep saying Socialism no matter what the
topic is. Maybe the snow is a Socialist conspiracy, eh?

Anthony Marsh

2020-10-29 23:40:11 UTC

Post by MR. X
http://youtu.be/0iRvEPcQV3I

When you can think of anything, jut say Socialism to scare everybody.

OK.
SOCIALISM. That's enough to scare everybody. Especially since there is a
very good chance it is about to become a reality in the US.

Just to stay on topic why don't you call JFK a Socialist?

John Corbett

2020-10-30 23:27:12 UTC

Post by MR. X
http://youtu.be/0iRvEPcQV3I

When you can think of anything, jut say Socialism to scare everybody.

OK.
SOCIALISM. That's enough to scare everybody. Especially since there is a
very good chance it is about to become a reality in the US.

Just to stay on topic why don't you call JFK a Socialist?

Because he wasn't.

Anthony Marsh

2020-11-01 21:19:46 UTC

Post by MR. X
http://youtu.be/0iRvEPcQV3I

When you can think of anything, jut say Socialism to scare everybody.

OK.
SOCIALISM. That's enough to scare everybody. Especially since there is a
very good chance it is about to become a reality in the US.

Just to stay on topic why don't you call JFK a Socialist?

Because he wasn't.

But the point is that you shout Socialism when anyone is to the left of
Hitler.

John Corbett

2020-11-02 14:26:30 UTC

Post by MR. X
http://youtu.be/0iRvEPcQV3I

When you can think of anything, jut say Socialism to scare everybody.

OK.
SOCIALISM. That's enough to scare everybody. Especially since there is a
very good chance it is about to become a reality in the US.

Just to stay on topic why don't you call JFK a Socialist?

Because he wasn't.

But the point is that you shout Socialism when anyone is to the left of
Hitler.

I think it is safe to say JFK was to the left of Hitler and I just said he
wasn't a socialist which proves your point is FUBAR.

Anthony Marsh

2020-11-07 00:56:31 UTC

Post by MR. X
http://youtu.be/0iRvEPcQV3I

When you can think of anything, jut say Socialism to scare everybody.

OK.
SOCIALISM. That's enough to scare everybody. Especially since there is a
very good chance it is about to become a reality in the US.

Just to stay on topic why don't you call JFK a Socialist?

Because he wasn't.

But the point is that you shout Socialism when anyone is to the left of
Hitler.

I think it is safe to say JFK was to the left of Hitler and I just said he
wasn't a socialist which proves your point is FUBAR.

Weak, maybe you are afraid to go that far so instead you call JFK a
rightwinger to make yourself look better.

John Corbett

2020-11-09 01:52:34 UTC

Post by MR. X
http://youtu.be/0iRvEPcQV3I

When you can think of anything, jut say Socialism to scare everybody.

OK.
SOCIALISM. That's enough to scare everybody. Especially since there is a
very good chance it is about to become a reality in the US.

Just to stay on topic why don't you call JFK a Socialist?

Because he wasn't.

But the point is that you shout Socialism when anyone is to the left of
Hitler.

I think it is safe to say JFK was to the left of Hitler and I just said he
wasn't a socialist which proves your point is FUBAR.

Weak, maybe you are afraid to go that far so instead you call JFK a
rightwinger to make yourself look better.

You can't counter the point I made so instead you move the goal posts. SOP
for you.

Jason Burke

2020-11-10 04:03:06 UTC

Post by MR. X
http://youtu.be/0iRvEPcQV3I

When you can think of anything, jut say Socialism to scare everybody.

OK.
SOCIALISM. That's enough to scare everybody. Especially since there is a
very good chance it is about to become a reality in the US.

Just to stay on topic why don't you call JFK a Socialist?

Because he wasn't.

But the point is that you shout Socialism when anyone is to the left of
Hitler.

I think it is safe to say JFK was to the left of Hitler and I just said he
wasn't a socialist which proves your point is FUBAR.

Weak, maybe you are afraid to go that far so instead you call JFK a
rightwinger to make yourself look better.

You can't counter the point I made so instead you move the goal posts. SOP
for you.

He'd have to have a clue to move the goalposts.

Anthony Marsh

2020-11-12 00:35:38 UTC

Post by MR. X
http://youtu.be/0iRvEPcQV3I

When you can think of anything, jut say Socialism to scare everybody.

OK.
SOCIALISM. That's enough to scare everybody. Especially since there is a
very good chance it is about to become a reality in the US.

Just to stay on topic why don't you call JFK a Socialist?

Because he wasn't.

But the point is that you shout Socialism when anyone is to the left of
Hitler.

I think it is safe to say JFK was to the left of Hitler and I just said he
wasn't a socialist which proves your point is FUBAR.

Weak, maybe you are afraid to go that far so instead you call JFK a
rightwinger to make yourself look better.

You can't counter the point I made so instead you move the goal posts. SOP
for you.

He'd have to have a clue to move the goalposts.

As usual, all you do is make personal attacks.
I am pointing out your fear mongering.

John Corbett

2020-11-13 03:43:40 UTC

Post by MR. X
http://youtu.be/0iRvEPcQV3I

When you can think of anything, jut say Socialism to scare everybody.

OK.
SOCIALISM. That's enough to scare everybody. Especially since there is a
very good chance it is about to become a reality in the US.

Just to stay on topic why don't you call JFK a Socialist?

Because he wasn't.

But the point is that you shout Socialism when anyone is to the left of
Hitler.

I think it is safe to say JFK was to the left of Hitler and I just said he
wasn't a socialist which proves your point is FUBAR.

Weak, maybe you are afraid to go that far so instead you call JFK a
rightwinger to make yourself look better.

You can't counter the point I made so instead you move the goal posts. SOP
for you.

He'd have to have a clue to move the goalposts.

As usual, all you do is make personal attacks.
I am pointing out your fear mongering.

Some people might consider that a personal attack.

Anthony Marsh

2020-11-14 04:19:55 UTC

Post by MR. X
http://youtu.be/0iRvEPcQV3I

When you can think of anything, jut say Socialism to scare everybody.

OK.
SOCIALISM. That's enough to scare everybody. Especially since there is a
very good chance it is about to become a reality in the US.

Just to stay on topic why don't you call JFK a Socialist?

Because he wasn't.

But the point is that you shout Socialism when anyone is to the left of
Hitler.

I think it is safe to say JFK was to the left of Hitler and I just said he
wasn't a socialist which proves your point is FUBAR.

Weak, maybe you are afraid to go that far so instead you call JFK a
rightwinger to make yourself look better.

You can't counter the point I made so instead you move the goal posts. SOP
for you.

He'd have to have a clue to move the goalposts.

As usual, all you do is make personal attacks.
I am pointing out your fear mongering.

Some people might consider that a personal attack.

No. I did not say anything about your personal characteristics.
Your hair is ugly. How about that?

Anthony Marsh

2020-11-11 02:11:12 UTC

Post by MR. X
http://youtu.be/0iRvEPcQV3I

When you can think of anything, jut say Socialism to scare everybody.

OK.
SOCIALISM. That's enough to scare everybody. Especially since there is a
very good chance it is about to become a reality in the US.

Just to stay on topic why don't you call JFK a Socialist?

Because he wasn't.

But the point is that you shout Socialism when anyone is to the left of
Hitler.

I think it is safe to say JFK was to the left of Hitler and I just said he
wasn't a socialist which proves your point is FUBAR.

Weak, maybe you are afraid to go that far so instead you call JFK a
rightwinger to make yourself look better.

You can't counter the point I made so instead you move the goal posts. SOP
for you.

You have no goal posts. You hsve nothing.

MR. X

2020-11-02 18:30:02 UTC

Post by MR. X
http://youtu.be/0iRvEPcQV3I

When you can think of anything, jut say Socialism to scare everybody.

OK.
SOCIALISM. That's enough to scare everybody. Especially since there is a
very good chance it is about to become a reality in the US.

Just to stay on topic why don't you call JFK a Socialist?

Because he wasn't.

But the point is that you shout Socialism when anyone is to the left of
Hitler.

Stalin was to the left of Hitler. Mao was to the left of Hitler. These two
bastards were not influenced by Hayek.

c***@gmail.com

2020-10-29 02:34:18 UTC

Post by MR. X
http://youtu.be/0iRvEPcQV3I

When you can think of anything, jut say Socialism to scare everybody.

It's like saying "Freedom" to you.

MR. X

2020-10-29 19:48:05 UTC

Post by MR. X
http://youtu.be/0iRvEPcQV3I

When you can think of anything, jut say Socialism to scare everybody.

Why don't you defect to North Korea? Have you ever eaten tree bark? Read
Frank Dikotter's Mao's Great Famine.

ajohnstone

2020-10-30 23:27:24 UTC

Mr X, i've responded already to similar comments. Blame conditions in
North Korea on democracy as you seem to believe whatever you are told as
the full official name of North Korea is the DEMOCRATIC Peoples Republic
of Korea.

As for eating tree bark, perhaps you are unaware of the famine conditions
that exist in a number of countries where transnational corporations are
tax dodging and reducing the tax revenues of those countries hindering
attempts to deal with the hunger problem. And if you wish to blame those
nation's tin-pot dictators, they would be unable to fill their
safety-deposit boxes in Switzerland with their corruption without the
complicity of global banking industry.

MR. X

2020-11-02 14:25:55 UTC

Post by ajohnstone
Mr X, i've responded already to similar comments. Blame conditions in
North Korea on democracy as you seem to believe whatever you are told as
the full official name of North Korea is the DEMOCRATIC Peoples Republic
of Korea.
As for eating tree bark, perhaps you are unaware of the famine conditions
that exist in a number of countries where transnational corporations are
tax dodging and reducing the tax revenues of those countries hindering
attempts to deal with the hunger problem. And if you wish to blame those
nation's tin-pot dictators, they would be unable to fill their
safety-deposit boxes in Switzerland with their corruption without the
complicity of global banking industry.

Is Kim Jong Eun Centre Right?

c***@gmail.com

2020-11-03 03:09:48 UTC

Name the countries, name the transnational corporations doing the tax
dodging, and cite why whatever particular example you are referring to is
the reason for the "hunger problem" in the example country.

Otherwise, we will dismiss this under Hitchens's Razor.

And if you wish to blame those

Post by ajohnstone
nation's tin-pot dictators, they would be unable to fill their
safety-deposit boxes in Switzerland with their corruption without the
complicity of global banking industry.

ajohnstone

2020-11-03 23:34:34 UTC

The studies:
https://www.taxjustice.net/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/CORPOR1.pdf

https://www.oecd.org/dac/accountable-effective-institutions/49263997.pdf

https://waronwant.org/sites/default/files/WarOnWant_ZambiaTaxReport_web.pdf

https://www.oxfam.org.nz/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/endless-corporate-tax-scandals.pdf

etc. etc., ad nauseam

The latest media report:

Google, Facebook and Microsoft should be paying more corporation tax in
developing nations, says ActionAid. The aid charity estimates that poorer
countries are missing out on up to $2.8bn
https://www.bbc.com/news/business-54691572

c***@gmail.com

2020-11-11 03:28:41 UTC

Post by ajohnstone
https://www.taxjustice.net/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/CORPOR1.pdf

No connection to hunger or famine in this study.

Post by ajohnstone
https://www.oecd.org/dac/accountable-effective-institutions/49263997.pdf

No connection to hunger or famine here.

Post by ajohnstone
https://waronwant.org/sites/default/files/WarOnWant_ZambiaTaxReport_web.pdf

Ditto.

Post by ajohnstone
https://www.oxfam.org.nz/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/endless-corporate-tax-scandals.pdf

Ditto.

Post by ajohnstone
etc. etc., ad nauseam
Google, Facebook and Microsoft should be paying more corporation tax in
developing nations, says ActionAid. The aid charity estimates that poorer
countries are missing out on up to $2.8bn
https://www.bbc.com/news/business-54691572

The articles are long on claims of tax avoidance schemes in Africa, and
nothing about how any tax avoidance schemes lead to hunger or famine, so
your claim can so far be dismissed. I think its up to the governments in
the countries cited to tax as they see fit, and an individual or
corporation is under no obligation to pay more than what the law states.

There is an easy "fix" regarding tax avoidance schemes, but as you're a
socialist, you'll dismiss the idea: A flat tax of some sort. No
deductions, no loopholes. No subsidies to build wind farms. No subsidies
to build or buy electric cars. No tax breaks for adopting a kid from
overseas. No tax breaks for starting a minority-owned business or digging
an oil well or any of a million other things the government tries to
encourage with tax policy. At the end of the year, company "X" adds up its
gross sales and pays a percentage to be determined. An individual is
exempt on the first "X" of their income and then pays a percentage of it
thereafter.

Anthony Marsh

2020-11-01 21:19:50 UTC

Post by MR. X