On 27 Nov 2004 17:57:07 -0500, "Gerry Simone (W)"
Post by Gerry Simone (W)Wasn't there a ricochet off a sidewalk? The road?
The north sidewalk about the first shot area was reported to be hit many
years later because a car wreck had scraped the concrete. Some researcher
cut it out and tested it for metal and found none. I saw it before it was
removed. It was definitely not caused by a bullet. It was about 3-4
inches and slightly curved running east to west. The north edge was about
1/8" deep and straight down. The south edge was a slope of about an inch
up to the original surface. This was probably done by a car bumper if not
deliberately done. The mark in the concrete on the south manhole concrete
was probably done by Groden but could have been a pouring defect where a
twig was covered with a thin layer of concrete and when the twig rotted
the concrete chipped away leaving about a 2" east west trench about 1/4"
deep with squared sides. This is not a bullet strike and was not filmed
on 11-22-63. If present it must be covered in dirt and not the focus of
the investigation. The Fort Worth Star Telegram took photos with a pencil
pointing at the ground strike or the bullet. Several witnesses did report
seeing other bullet srikes on the pavement but this was never proven or
documented with photos of the strike.
Post by Gerry Simone (W)A researcher told me that when Penn Jones visited DP soon after the
assassination, he noticed a police cruiser parked over the sidewalk where a
shot had struck.
Yes the cruiser is there as proven by the photos on 11-22-63 but was the
concrete damaged? We do not know and cannot prove when the concrete was
damaged before, after or on 11-22-63.
Post by Gerry Simone (W)And whatever happened to the issue that the windshield frame dent existed
before the assassination as a SSA said was possible (that dent looks too
circular to me for it be an irregular bullet fragment hit coming from the
head shot)?
I think it could be a fragmented bullet. It certainly was not at full
velocity or it would have shattered the windshield. Photos taken before
and after the assassination tend to show no damage thus I am almost
certain the damage was caused by a bullet. We are limited by the quality
of the photos. It is significant that the FBI did photograph the damage
thinking that it was a bullet strike. They could examine it in detail.
Post by Gerry Simone (W)Post by Ricky TobiasPost by Buford T. JusticeI have dug through a lot of websites. It seems most are geared towards a
conspiracy. I was just wanting to find a good, detailed article on the 3
shots fired. The best I can find is this...
Shot 1 - Misses the motorcade completely. This gives the superficial
wound
Post by Ricky TobiasPost by Buford T. Justiceto Tague's cheek.
Shot 2 - Hits Kennedy in the throat and hits the Governor multiple times.
Shot 3 - The head shot that kills Kennedy. It hits nothing else.
Is this correct?
No. Nobody knows if shot one and two above occurred in that order.
It could be 2 then 1. One of the three shots must hit the windshield
and chrome causing that damage. We also have a well documented bullet
hit near the south Elm manhole cover in the grass. The bullet did not
hit the concrete. A bullet is reported being found and others report
that in bounced out and was not found. This bullet would then go on
to hit the curb and a fragment wounds Tague.
Ricky
"Ballistic Findings in the JFK Autopsy Photos".
http://karws.gso.uri.edu/JFK/Issues_and_evidence/Frontal_shot(s)/Tobias_frontal_shots/Tobias--Ballistics_Findings.html
Post by Ricky Tobiashttp://karws.gso.uri.edu/JFK/JFK.html
Then go to: Issues and evidence
Then go to: Frontal shot(s)
or
go to: Notices and recent additions to the site
Then find above title posted April 11, 2001.
Ricky
"Ballistic Findings in the JFK Autopsy Photos".
An early draft with some errors is posted at:
http://karws.gso.uri.edu/JFK/Issues_and_evidence/Frontal_shot(s)/Tobias_frontal_shots/Tobias--Ballistics_Findings.html
Problems try:
http://karws.gso.uri.edu/JFK/JFK.html
Then go to: Issues and evidence
Then go to: Frontal shot(s)
or
go to: Notices and recent additions to the site
Then find above title posted April 11, 2001.