Post by claviger Post by firstname.lastname@example.org Post by claviger
The street was asphalt, the curb was concrete.
So you're saying that the bullet hit the curb. The one that
all those spectators were standing on. And no one standing
on either side of the street saw that happen right in front
DPDMU Sgt. Steve Ellis saw that shot and described it in detail.
Slow motion enhanced Zapruder film confirms his description.
What "slow motion enhanced Zapruder," or rather which one?
Any number of people have slowed down, sped up, blown up,
and 'enhanced' the crap out of the Zapruder film over the
years. I can't think of a single one who has found a bullet
strike on a curb. If no one else has publicly done so yet,
it's pretty doubtful that someone's found one now
And promises of some unknown person making a breakthrough
utilizing some undisclosed method have invariably turned
out to be disappointments.
As for Ellis, he's the guy who claimed that there was a
big bullet hole at the base of the Limousine's windshield.
However, it's worth discussing what Ellis said about the
subject at hand:
"We came west on Main Street to Houston Street
and took a right, facing right into that building.
The building with the window was looking right at
us as we came up to Elm Street and made a left,
heading back toward the Triple Underpass. Midway
down Elm I remember waving at my wife’s niece and
nephew, Bill and Gayle Newman, who had apparently
come out to see the President. About the time I
started on a curve on Elm, I had turned to my right
to give signals to open up the intervals since we
were fixing to get on the freeway a short distance
away. That’s all I had on my mind. Just as I turned
around, then the first shot went off. It hit back
there. I hadn’t been able to see back where Chaney
was because Curry was there, but I could see where
the shot came down into the south side of the curb.
It looked like it hit the concrete or grass there
in just a flash, and a bunch of junk flew up like a
white or gray color dust or smoke coming out of the
concrete. Just seeing it in a split second like that
I thought, 'Oh, my God!' I thought there had been
some people hit back there as people started
falling. I thought either some crank had thrown a
big “Baby John” firecracker and scared them causing
them to jump down or else a fragmentation grenade
had hit all those people. In any case, they went
down! Actually I think they threw themselves down in
anticipation of another shot.
As soon as I saw that, I turned around and
rode up beside the chief’s car and BANG!…BANG!, two
more shots went off: three shots in all! The sounds
were all clear and loud and sounded about the same.
From where I was, they sounded like they were coming
from around where the tall tree was in front of that
building. Of course, I’m forming an opinion based on
where I saw that stuff hit the street, so I knew that
it had to come from up that way, and I assumed that
all the others came from the same place.
But all the time I was moving up, I still
didn’t know it was shots until Chaney rode up beside
me and said, 'Sarge, the President’s hit!” I asked
him how bad, and he replied, “Hell, he’s dead! Man,
his head’s blown off!'"
"After the assassination, the FBI did their
investigative work on the curb where I had seen the
shot and cut off the section to analyze. However,
they cut off the wrong section. We later found the
place where it hit. Sergeant Harkness knows. He was
a three-wheel sergeant who worked traffic downtown."
So, Ellis says that "the shot came down into the
south side of the curb." That doesn't sound like
the curb on the North side of Elm. This impression
is reinforced by Ellis' statement, "I hadn’t been
able to see back where Chaney was because Curry
[i.e. the lead car with Curry, Decker, Lawson, and
Sorrels] was there. Ellis was the leftmost of the
squad of lead motorcycles; Chaney was the right
inboard member of the squad flanking the ss100x's
rear. Given Chaney's relationship with the limo,
it's hard to believe that Ellis would have been
able to see a bullet strike behind and to the right
of the limo.
Ellis said that "It looked like it hit the
concrete or grass there." But the curb on the
North side of Elm directly abuts the sidewalk.
If it hit the where the curb was, he wouldn't
have had to hedge his bet as to whether it
hit concrete or grass. On the other side of the
street, there was no sidewalk, so Ellis' fudging
between grass and concrete makes sense.
Also, consider his statement about finding the
"the FBI did their investigative work on the
curb where I had seen the shot and cut off the
section to analyze."
The only portion of curb that was removed and
analyzed was the mark on the Main St curb near
where James Tague was standing. That was on Main,
next to the triple underpass. While Ellis said,
"they cut off the wrong section" he still places
it near the Tague mark, far from the North side
of Elm, where you'd like it to be.
Post by claviger Post by email@example.com
And none of the spectators standing on the curb was
injured by the hail of bullet fragments and concrete bits
that would have been kicked up by the impact?
No because fragments sprayed the President. He reacted by
exclaiming "My God, I'm hit!" Three deep fragment wounds
were discovered on his right cheek.
It must be nice to live in a world where all
you have to do to prove something is to simply
assume that it's true. Kellerman was the only
person to say that JFK said "My God..." during the
shooting. The Connallys and Mrs Kennedy all
said that he said *nothing* during the shooting.
The only other witness in the limo did not claim
that JFK said anything, either.
Now, look at the North side of Elm in the Zapruder
film. Spectators literally have their toes on the
curb. The bullet would have hit the ground literally
at their feet. But no one was hit by fragments of
concrete and metal from the impact a few inches away
from them, while JFK (and only JFK) get hit, at
least in your version. How is that supposed to work?
Post by claviger Post by firstname.lastname@example.org
And no one noticed the inevitable divot gouged out
of the concrete by such a calamity?
I've been to Dealey Plaza and there are a half dozen gouges
in the sidewalk in the vicinity. Sgt. Ellis went back and found
the ricochet mark on the curb and showed it to his MU fellow
officers. One in particular is elongated and lines up perfectly
with the 6th floor window.
Exactly how many of those gouges were found freshly made
on or just after Nov 22, 1963? You can't be talking about
the mark Ellis described. That was on the wrong side of
your scenario, as has been demonstrated.