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New evidence links the cases of Kim Philby and Lee ... - Slate Magazine
Apr 10, 2013 -
Lee Harvey Oswald, right, suspected assassin of U.S. President John F.
Kennedy , ... leaving a legacy of mystery, paranoia and conspiracy theory
around himself, ... 1963: Fifty years ago, the year Kim Philby defected to
Moscow, ... And I've written frequently on JFK theories, recurrently
changing my mind on ... Philby and Oswald
The truth is still out there.
By Ron Rosenbaum
I've read some muddled articles on the assassination but this one is near
the top of my list. Philby and Angleton and Angleton and a DGI agent and
Oswald and....? Where's the Philby and Oswald connection?
I've read the claim that Angleton was using Oswald to uncover a KGB mole
or something but I don't think this is what is being claimed.
Rosenbaum usually is pretty interesting on the assassination; he may be
interesting here if I could figure out what he's saying.
So you do like SOME conspiracy kooks, as long as they point
the finger at the KGB.
Do you know what a Triple agent is?
What is a Triple agent?
In the article you linked to the author repeats a rumor that Philby was a
That is he was an agent for British intelligence who was pretending to be
a covert agent for the KGB but in actuality was a British agent all of the
I would hope that's the case, that Philby would not betray his family,
county, and birthright for a few Rubles in a depressing Marxist shithouse
economy where the people are depressed and hopeless. Marxism is a complete
Re "Marxism is a complete fraud." Well, ...
I think Marxism as an actual form of government can't work. Marxist
theory as describing the inevitable future is ridiculous. "Marxism" as
practiced in the Soviet Union was indeed a complete fraud.
On the other hand, the notion of a class struggle between the proletariat
and capitalists if not taken to a rigid one-size-fits/explains all extreme
can provide some insight on a lot of developments and situations in
capitalist societies (like ours in the U.S.).
And, obviously for the ideological people who spied and did other work for
the Soviet Union they thought otherwise about it being a complete fraud.
They were wrong but many were sincere if extremely naively so.
On the other hand recognizing the class structure of British society at
the time and here in the U.S. recognizing the apartheid that existed with
regard to black people and the history of colonialism in both countries
(while ignoring of course Russian colonialism!), one can see that the
countries they were turning their backs on had some major flaws and sins.
It's worth remembering that working people had to fight (and die!) to get
the unionizing rights that kept them from being crushed in poverty and
dying penniless, with most capitalists resisting them with everything they
had legally or otherwise.
As for the non-ideologicals selling out for bucks, most people have a
price and sometimes people have problems (substance abuse, expensive
tastes) that make them more likely to take the price. Seems like there is
a dude on trial in Washington right now to whom that would apply. Those
who sell themselves out cheap are bad bargainers!