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claviger
2018-11-18 14:37:13 UTC
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QUESTION EDWARD JAY EPSTEIN

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Who, if anyone, knew that Lee Harvey Oswald was an assassin prior to
November 22,1963?

Answer:

On April 10, 1963, Lee Harvey Oswald attempted to assassinate General
Edwin Walker, a right- wing leader in Dallas with a high-powered rifle,
after aborting a previous attempt on April 5th. The evidence of this
assassination attempt includes the testimony of his wife, Marina Oswald,,
a note in his handwriting Russian describing what Marina should do, after
the Walker shooting, if he were arrested, killed or had to go into hiding,
photographs of Walker's house from the sniper's position taken by Oswald's
camera and pasted into Oswald's scrapbook, and a Neutron Activation test
that showed that the metallic elements found in the bullet that was
recovered in Walker's home matched the ammunition used in Oswald's rifle
in the assassination of Kennedy (This technology for this test, done in
1977, did not exist in 1963). Oswald had told a number of people he knew
that someone should shoot Walker a month prior to the shooting, and, on
April 5th, when he made his first attempt, he had Marina take a photograph
of him dressed in black, armed to kill with a rifle and telescopic sight,
and holding in his hand the radical newspaper, The Militant. Those who
reportedly knew that he was a self-styled assassin include:

1) Marina Oswald. She testified to the Warren Commission that when Oswald
returned on the evening of April 10th, he explained to her that he had
just attempted to kill General Edwin Walker with his rifle.

2) George De Mohrenschildt. He had seen Oswald's sniper's rifle. He had
heard Oswald make rabid threats against Walker the prior month. He had
received the photograph which was signed "For George, Lee Harvey
Oswald" and dated April 5th, 1963 (Oswald's first attempt on Walker).
If he had any doubts why Oswald was holding the rifle in the photo,
Marina had scribbled on back in Russian "Hunter of Fascists. Ha. Ha"
After he heard on the radio that a sniper had fired a shot at General
Walker and, next day, he went over to Oswald's house to find out what
had happened to the rifle. According to Marina's testimony, he had
rushed up the stairs, and said "Lee, how did you miss General Walker?"

3) Jean De Mohrenschildt. According to Mohrenschildt, he had told his wife
in April 1963, when he left Dallas to go to Washington DC.

4) J. Walter Moore, a CIA officer working in the CIA's Domestic Contact
Division in Dallas, according to De Mohrenschildt. De Mohrenschildt
told me that he had reported the Walker assassination attempt and the
telltale "Hunter of Fascists" photograph to Moore.

5) Eusebio Azque, the Cuban counsel in Mexico City. Marina testified that
Oswald brought photos of the Walker shooting to Mexico to support his
request for a visa to go to Cuba. According to witnesses at the
consulate, Oswald showed these photographs to Azque, and became
involved in a heated argument with him about his bona fides as a
Pro-Castro revolutionary.


http://www.edwardjayepstein.com/question_oswald2.htm
Anthony Marsh
2018-11-19 02:26:06 UTC
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QUESTION EDWARD JAY EPSTEIN
Who, if anyone, knew that Lee Harvey Oswald was an assassin prior to
November 22,1963?
Well, DeM suspected it.
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On April 10, 1963, Lee Harvey Oswald attempted to assassinate General
Edwin Walker, a right- wing leader in Dallas with a high-powered rifle,
Not high powered. high powered hype.
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after aborting a previous attempt on April 5th. The evidence of this
He assumed that his one shot had killed Walker.
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assassination attempt includes the testimony of his wife, Marina Oswald,,
a note in his handwriting Russian describing what Marina should do, after
the Walker shooting, if he were arrested, killed or had to go into hiding,
photographs of Walker's house from the sniper's position taken by Oswald's
camera and pasted into Oswald's scrapbook, and a Neutron Activation test
that showed that the metallic elements found in the bullet that was
recovered in Walker's home matched the ammunition used in Oswald's rifle
Something like that. You can't say matched, especially with NAA back in
1973. You can say consistent with. The bullet was the same type that
Oswald bought and had in his rifle on the day of the JFK assassination.
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in the assassination of Kennedy (This technology for this test, done in
1977, did not exist in 1963). Oswald had told a number of people he knew
What technology? NAA? They could have invented it in 1963, but they were
too lazy.
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that someone should shoot Walker a month prior to the shooting, and, on
Which people? Names.
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April 5th, when he made his first attempt, he had Marina take a photograph
of him dressed in black, armed to kill with a rifle and telescopic sight,
and holding in his hand the radical newspaper, The Militant. Those who
First attempt? How many did he make?
Hyperbole.
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1) Marina Oswald. She testified to the Warren Commission that when Oswald
returned on the evening of April 10th, he explained to her that he had
just attempted to kill General Edwin Walker with his rifle.
2) George De Mohrenschildt. He had seen Oswald's sniper's rifle. He had
heard Oswald make rabid threats against Walker the prior month. He had
received the photograph which was signed "For George, Lee Harvey
Oswald" and dated April 5th, 1963 (Oswald's first attempt on Walker).
If he had any doubts why Oswald was holding the rifle in the photo,
Marina had scribbled on back in Russian "Hunter of Fascists. Ha. Ha"
After he heard on the radio that a sniper had fired a shot at General
Walker and, next day, he went over to Oswald's house to find out what
had happened to the rifle. According to Marina's testimony, he had
rushed up the stairs, and said "Lee, how did you miss General Walker?"
3) Jean De Mohrenschildt. According to Mohrenschildt, he had told his wife
in April 1963, when he left Dallas to go to Washington DC.
To go to the CIA HQs and report on his attempts to groom Oswald?
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4) J. Walter Moore, a CIA officer working in the CIA's Domestic Contact
Division in Dallas, according to De Mohrenschildt. De Mohrenschildt
told me that he had reported the Walker assassination attempt and the
telltale "Hunter of Fascists" photograph to Moore.
5) Eusebio Azque, the Cuban counsel in Mexico City. Marina testified that
Oswald brought photos of the Walker shooting to Mexico to support his
Oswald took photos of himself shooting at Walker? Did Oswald invent the
selfie back in 1963? Unnessary hyperbole. 10 yards penalty.
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request for a visa to go to Cuba. According to witnesses at the
consulate, Oswald showed these photographs to Azque, and became
involved in a heated argument with him about his bona fides as a
Pro-Castro revolutionary.
Something like that.
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http://www.edwardjayepstein.com/question_oswald2.htm
Overblown and a CIA asset.
j***@gmail.com
2018-12-03 15:56:56 UTC
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QUESTION EDWARD JAY EPSTEIN
Who, if anyone, knew that Lee Harvey Oswald was an assassin prior to
November 22,1963?
On April 10, 1963, Lee Harvey Oswald attempted to assassinate General
Edwin Walker, a right- wing leader in Dallas with a high-powered rifle,
after aborting a previous attempt on April 5th. The evidence of this
assassination attempt includes the testimony of his wife, Marina Oswald,,
a note in his handwriting Russian describing what Marina should do, after
the Walker shooting, if he were arrested, killed or had to go into hiding,
photographs of Walker's house from the sniper's position taken by Oswald's
camera and pasted into Oswald's scrapbook, and a Neutron Activation test
that showed that the metallic elements found in the bullet that was
recovered in Walker's home matched the ammunition used in Oswald's rifle
in the assassination of Kennedy (This technology for this test, done in
1977, did not exist in 1963). Oswald had told a number of people he knew
that someone should shoot Walker a month prior to the shooting, and, on
April 5th, when he made his first attempt, he had Marina take a photograph
of him dressed in black, armed to kill with a rifle and telescopic sight,
and holding in his hand the radical newspaper, The Militant. Those who
1) Marina Oswald. She testified to the Warren Commission that when Oswald
returned on the evening of April 10th, he explained to her that he had
just attempted to kill General Edwin Walker with his rifle.
2) George De Mohrenschildt. He had seen Oswald's sniper's rifle. He had
heard Oswald make rabid threats against Walker the prior month. He had
received the photograph which was signed "For George, Lee Harvey
Oswald" and dated April 5th, 1963 (Oswald's first attempt on Walker).
If he had any doubts why Oswald was holding the rifle in the photo,
Marina had scribbled on back in Russian "Hunter of Fascists. Ha. Ha"
After he heard on the radio that a sniper had fired a shot at General
Walker and, next day, he went over to Oswald's house to find out what
had happened to the rifle. According to Marina's testimony, he had
rushed up the stairs, and said "Lee, how did you miss General Walker?"
3) Jean De Mohrenschildt. According to Mohrenschildt, he had told his wife
in April 1963, when he left Dallas to go to Washington DC.
4) J. Walter Moore, a CIA officer working in the CIA's Domestic Contact
Division in Dallas, according to De Mohrenschildt. De Mohrenschildt
told me that he had reported the Walker assassination attempt and the
telltale "Hunter of Fascists" photograph to Moore.
5) Eusebio Azque, the Cuban counsel in Mexico City. Marina testified that
Oswald brought photos of the Walker shooting to Mexico to support his
request for a visa to go to Cuba. According to witnesses at the
consulate, Oswald showed these photographs to Azque, and became
involved in a heated argument with him about his bona fides as a
Pro-Castro revolutionary.
http://www.edwardjayepstein.com/question_oswald2.htm
Owald seems to have been trying to impress the Cubans with his
revolutionary credentials. The most significant act he had committed up
until then was the attempted assassination of General Walker. If he had
boasted about that to the Cubans and the CIA was recording his
conversation it would have been very embarrassing for that organisation if
such a recording became known to the public. As far as I remember the CIA
policy was to destroy such tapes after 30 days?
Steve M. Galbraith
2018-12-04 01:40:31 UTC
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QUESTION EDWARD JAY EPSTEIN
Who, if anyone, knew that Lee Harvey Oswald was an assassin prior to
November 22,1963?
On April 10, 1963, Lee Harvey Oswald attempted to assassinate General
Edwin Walker, a right- wing leader in Dallas with a high-powered rifle,
after aborting a previous attempt on April 5th. The evidence of this
assassination attempt includes the testimony of his wife, Marina Oswald,,
a note in his handwriting Russian describing what Marina should do, after
the Walker shooting, if he were arrested, killed or had to go into hiding,
photographs of Walker's house from the sniper's position taken by Oswald's
camera and pasted into Oswald's scrapbook, and a Neutron Activation test
that showed that the metallic elements found in the bullet that was
recovered in Walker's home matched the ammunition used in Oswald's rifle
in the assassination of Kennedy (This technology for this test, done in
1977, did not exist in 1963). Oswald had told a number of people he knew
that someone should shoot Walker a month prior to the shooting, and, on
April 5th, when he made his first attempt, he had Marina take a photograph
of him dressed in black, armed to kill with a rifle and telescopic sight,
and holding in his hand the radical newspaper, The Militant. Those who
1) Marina Oswald. She testified to the Warren Commission that when Oswald
returned on the evening of April 10th, he explained to her that he had
just attempted to kill General Edwin Walker with his rifle.
2) George De Mohrenschildt. He had seen Oswald's sniper's rifle. He had
heard Oswald make rabid threats against Walker the prior month. He had
received the photograph which was signed "For George, Lee Harvey
Oswald" and dated April 5th, 1963 (Oswald's first attempt on Walker).
If he had any doubts why Oswald was holding the rifle in the photo,
Marina had scribbled on back in Russian "Hunter of Fascists. Ha. Ha"
After he heard on the radio that a sniper had fired a shot at General
Walker and, next day, he went over to Oswald's house to find out what
had happened to the rifle. According to Marina's testimony, he had
rushed up the stairs, and said "Lee, how did you miss General Walker?"
3) Jean De Mohrenschildt. According to Mohrenschildt, he had told his wife
in April 1963, when he left Dallas to go to Washington DC.
4) J. Walter Moore, a CIA officer working in the CIA's Domestic Contact
Division in Dallas, according to De Mohrenschildt. De Mohrenschildt
told me that he had reported the Walker assassination attempt and the
telltale "Hunter of Fascists" photograph to Moore.
5) Eusebio Azque, the Cuban counsel in Mexico City. Marina testified that
Oswald brought photos of the Walker shooting to Mexico to support his
request for a visa to go to Cuba. According to witnesses at the
consulate, Oswald showed these photographs to Azque, and became
involved in a heated argument with him about his bona fides as a
Pro-Castro revolutionary.
http://www.edwardjayepstein.com/question_oswald2.htm
Owald seems to have been trying to impress the Cubans with his
revolutionary credentials. The most significant act he had committed up
until then was the attempted assassination of General Walker. If he had
boasted about that to the Cubans and the CIA was recording his
conversation it would have been very embarrassing for that organisation if
such a recording became known to the public. As far as I remember the CIA
policy was to destroy such tapes after 30 days?
The policy of the CIA station in Mexico City was to erase and re-use the
tapes of PHONE CALLS into and out of the consulate that they had
intercepted. They didn't have the capacity to store all of the tapes; they
reused them after erasing (through degaussing) the originals.

There is no evidence I've seen - maybe others have - that they recorded
conversations of people inside the Cuban consulate. That's been rumored -
Gus Russo quoted a Cuban DGI agent as saying they found numerous bugs
inside the consulate after they learned about the intercepted calls.

As to Azcue: Nowhere in his testimony does he mention Oswald showing him
any photographs or related documents. I'm not sure where Epstein got the
above.

Here's the relevant testimony:

Azcue: "And as he [i.e. Oswald] was carrying along certain documents which
he believed would be sufficient for the visa, and the secretary could not
resolve the case, he then calls upon me to see whether I, upon examination
of those documents, can proceed to issue the visa immediately. I answered
negatively. The documents that he submits are not enough. He is exhibiting
or producing documents such as, one, attesting to his membership in the
U.S. Communist Party. Also another indicating that he is a member of the
Fair Play for Cuba Committee. Also another document indicating his
residence in the Soviet Union, as well as a marriage certificate to a
Soviet citizen."
Anthony Marsh
2018-12-05 15:26:46 UTC
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Post by claviger
QUESTION EDWARD JAY EPSTEIN
Who, if anyone, knew that Lee Harvey Oswald was an assassin prior to
November 22,1963?
On April 10, 1963, Lee Harvey Oswald attempted to assassinate General
Edwin Walker, a right- wing leader in Dallas with a high-powered rifle,
after aborting a previous attempt on April 5th. The evidence of this
assassination attempt includes the testimony of his wife, Marina Oswald,,
a note in his handwriting Russian describing what Marina should do, after
the Walker shooting, if he were arrested, killed or had to go into hiding,
photographs of Walker's house from the sniper's position taken by Oswald's
camera and pasted into Oswald's scrapbook, and a Neutron Activation test
that showed that the metallic elements found in the bullet that was
recovered in Walker's home matched the ammunition used in Oswald's rifle
in the assassination of Kennedy (This technology for this test, done in
1977, did not exist in 1963). Oswald had told a number of people he knew
that someone should shoot Walker a month prior to the shooting, and, on
April 5th, when he made his first attempt, he had Marina take a photograph
of him dressed in black, armed to kill with a rifle and telescopic sight,
and holding in his hand the radical newspaper, The Militant. Those who
1) Marina Oswald. She testified to the Warren Commission that when Oswald
returned on the evening of April 10th, he explained to her that he had
just attempted to kill General Edwin Walker with his rifle.
2) George De Mohrenschildt. He had seen Oswald's sniper's rifle. He had
heard Oswald make rabid threats against Walker the prior month. He had
received the photograph which was signed "For George, Lee Harvey
Oswald" and dated April 5th, 1963 (Oswald's first attempt on Walker).
If he had any doubts why Oswald was holding the rifle in the photo,
Marina had scribbled on back in Russian "Hunter of Fascists. Ha. Ha"
After he heard on the radio that a sniper had fired a shot at General
Walker and, next day, he went over to Oswald's house to find out what
had happened to the rifle. According to Marina's testimony, he had
rushed up the stairs, and said "Lee, how did you miss General Walker?"
3) Jean De Mohrenschildt. According to Mohrenschildt, he had told his wife
in April 1963, when he left Dallas to go to Washington DC.
4) J. Walter Moore, a CIA officer working in the CIA's Domestic Contact
Division in Dallas, according to De Mohrenschildt. De Mohrenschildt
told me that he had reported the Walker assassination attempt and the
telltale "Hunter of Fascists" photograph to Moore.
5) Eusebio Azque, the Cuban counsel in Mexico City. Marina testified that
Oswald brought photos of the Walker shooting to Mexico to support his
request for a visa to go to Cuba. According to witnesses at the
consulate, Oswald showed these photographs to Azque, and became
involved in a heated argument with him about his bona fides as a
Pro-Castro revolutionary.
http://www.edwardjayepstein.com/question_oswald2.htm
Owald seems to have been trying to impress the Cubans with his
revolutionary credentials. The most significant act he had committed up
until then was the attempted assassination of General Walker. If he had
boasted about that to the Cubans and the CIA was recording his
conversation it would have been very embarrassing for that organisation if
such a recording became known to the public. As far as I remember the CIA
policy was to destroy such tapes after 30 days?
The policy of the CIA station in Mexico City was to erase and re-use the
tapes of PHONE CALLS into and out of the consulate that they had
intercepted. They didn't have the capacity to store all of the tapes; they
reused them after erasing (through degaussing) the originals.
There is no evidence I've seen - maybe others have - that they recorded
conversations of people inside the Cuban consulate. That's been rumored -
Gus Russo quoted a Cuban DGI agent as saying they found numerous bugs
inside the consulate after they learned about the intercepted calls.
OK, to preserve your fairy tale let's say that no spy agency has ever
put bugs in another country's embassies.

The intercepted calls were courtesy of the Mexican police bugging ALL
telephone lines. Don't tell anyone about the CIA helping them to do
that. Sources and Methods, you know.
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As to Azcue: Nowhere in his testimony does he mention Oswald showing him
any photographs or related documents. I'm not sure where Epstein got the
above.
Azcue: "And as he [i.e. Oswald] was carrying along certain documents which
he believed would be sufficient for the visa, and the secretary could not
resolve the case, he then calls upon me to see whether I, upon examination
of those documents, can proceed to issue the visa immediately. I answered
negatively. The documents that he submits are not enough. He is exhibiting
or producing documents such as, one, attesting to his membership in the
U.S. Communist Party. Also another indicating that he is a member of the
Fair Play for Cuba Committee. Also another document indicating his
residence in the Soviet Union, as well as a marriage certificate to a
Soviet citizen."
Anthony Marsh
2018-12-04 15:46:37 UTC
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Post by claviger
QUESTION EDWARD JAY EPSTEIN
Who, if anyone, knew that Lee Harvey Oswald was an assassin prior to
November 22,1963?
On April 10, 1963, Lee Harvey Oswald attempted to assassinate General
Edwin Walker, a right- wing leader in Dallas with a high-powered rifle,
after aborting a previous attempt on April 5th. The evidence of this
assassination attempt includes the testimony of his wife, Marina Oswald,,
a note in his handwriting Russian describing what Marina should do, after
the Walker shooting, if he were arrested, killed or had to go into hiding,
photographs of Walker's house from the sniper's position taken by Oswald's
camera and pasted into Oswald's scrapbook, and a Neutron Activation test
that showed that the metallic elements found in the bullet that was
recovered in Walker's home matched the ammunition used in Oswald's rifle
in the assassination of Kennedy (This technology for this test, done in
1977, did not exist in 1963). Oswald had told a number of people he knew
that someone should shoot Walker a month prior to the shooting, and, on
April 5th, when he made his first attempt, he had Marina take a photograph
of him dressed in black, armed to kill with a rifle and telescopic sight,
and holding in his hand the radical newspaper, The Militant. Those who
1) Marina Oswald. She testified to the Warren Commission that when Oswald
returned on the evening of April 10th, he explained to her that he had
just attempted to kill General Edwin Walker with his rifle.
2) George De Mohrenschildt. He had seen Oswald's sniper's rifle. He had
heard Oswald make rabid threats against Walker the prior month. He had
received the photograph which was signed "For George, Lee Harvey
Oswald" and dated April 5th, 1963 (Oswald's first attempt on Walker).
If he had any doubts why Oswald was holding the rifle in the photo,
Marina had scribbled on back in Russian "Hunter of Fascists. Ha. Ha"
After he heard on the radio that a sniper had fired a shot at General
Walker and, next day, he went over to Oswald's house to find out what
had happened to the rifle. According to Marina's testimony, he had
rushed up the stairs, and said "Lee, how did you miss General Walker?"
3) Jean De Mohrenschildt. According to Mohrenschildt, he had told his wife
in April 1963, when he left Dallas to go to Washington DC.
4) J. Walter Moore, a CIA officer working in the CIA's Domestic Contact
Division in Dallas, according to De Mohrenschildt. De Mohrenschildt
told me that he had reported the Walker assassination attempt and the
telltale "Hunter of Fascists" photograph to Moore.
5) Eusebio Azque, the Cuban counsel in Mexico City. Marina testified that
Oswald brought photos of the Walker shooting to Mexico to support his
request for a visa to go to Cuba. According to witnesses at the
consulate, Oswald showed these photographs to Azque, and became
involved in a heated argument with him about his bona fides as a
Pro-Castro revolutionary.
http://www.edwardjayepstein.com/question_oswald2.htm
Owald seems to have been trying to impress the Cubans with his
revolutionary credentials. The most significant act he had committed up
Then why didn't he brag about that to the Cubans?
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until then was the attempted assassination of General Walker. If he had
boasted about that to the Cubans and the CIA was recording his
conversation it would have been very embarrassing for that organization if
The CIA would never admit that they recorded conversations in ANY
embassy. Sources and Methods.
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such a recording became known to the public. As far as I remember the CIA
policy was to destroy such tapes after 30 days?
Say what? What tapes. What you been smokin?
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