Discussion:
WHICH CARRIES MORE WEIGHT?
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BOZ
2018-05-17 20:06:15 UTC
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At 1:22 p.m. Dallas police found a Mannlicher-Carcano rifle in the
northwest corner of the sixth floor of the TSBD.

AT 122 PM THE DALLAS PD DID NOT FIND A MANNLICHER CARCANO ON THE GRASSY
KNOLL.
mainframetech
2018-05-18 00:57:10 UTC
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Post by BOZ
At 1:22 p.m. Dallas police found a Mannlicher-Carcano rifle in the
northwest corner of the sixth floor of the TSBD.
AT 122 PM THE DALLAS PD DID NOT FIND A MANNLICHER CARCANO ON THE GRASSY
KNOLL.
Of course, anywhere a shooter was, the weapon as taken away with them.
It would be dumb to leave them. The Oswald MC rifle was left because he
was to be the 'patsy', so evidence had to be present to implicate him.

Chris
BOZ
2018-05-19 01:04:14 UTC
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Post by mainframetech
Post by BOZ
At 1:22 p.m. Dallas police found a Mannlicher-Carcano rifle in the
northwest corner of the sixth floor of the TSBD.
AT 122 PM THE DALLAS PD DID NOT FIND A MANNLICHER CARCANO ON THE GRASSY
KNOLL.
Of course, anywhere a shooter was, the weapon as taken away with them.
It would be dumb to leave them. The Oswald MC rifle was left because he
was to be the 'patsy', so evidence had to be present to implicate him.
Chris
PROVE IT.
mainframetech
2018-05-21 02:39:35 UTC
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Post by BOZ
Post by mainframetech
Post by BOZ
At 1:22 p.m. Dallas police found a Mannlicher-Carcano rifle in the
northwest corner of the sixth floor of the TSBD.
AT 122 PM THE DALLAS PD DID NOT FIND A MANNLICHER CARCANO ON THE GRASSY
KNOLL.
Of course, anywhere a shooter was, the weapon as taken away with them.
It would be dumb to leave them. The Oswald MC rifle was left because he
was to be the 'patsy', so evidence had to be present to implicate him.
Chris
PROVE IT.
Simple. The rifle was left when none of the other weapons were left,
and the 'patsy' got blamed for the murder. The plot worked.

Chris
Anthony Marsh
2018-05-22 16:06:16 UTC
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Post by BOZ
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Post by BOZ
At 1:22 p.m. Dallas police found a Mannlicher-Carcano rifle in the
northwest corner of the sixth floor of the TSBD.
AT 122 PM THE DALLAS PD DID NOT FIND A MANNLICHER CARCANO ON THE GRASSY
KNOLL.
Of course, anywhere a shooter was, the weapon as taken away with them.
It would be dumb to leave them. The Oswald MC rifle was left because he
was to be the 'patsy', so evidence had to be present to implicate him.
Chris
PROVE IT.
Simple. The rifle was left when none of the other weapons were left,
and the 'patsy' got blamed for the murder. The plot worked.
ALmost perfectly. Except for tiny little mistakes like planting the
shells in the wrong place and falsely reporting what type of rifle it was.
Post by mainframetech
Chris
Anthony Marsh
2018-05-22 16:06:25 UTC
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Post by BOZ
Post by mainframetech
Post by BOZ
At 1:22 p.m. Dallas police found a Mannlicher-Carcano rifle in the
northwest corner of the sixth floor of the TSBD.
AT 122 PM THE DALLAS PD DID NOT FIND A MANNLICHER CARCANO ON THE GRASSY
KNOLL.
Of course, anywhere a shooter was, the weapon as taken away with them.
It would be dumb to leave them. The Oswald MC rifle was left because he
was to be the 'patsy', so evidence had to be present to implicate him.
Chris
PROVE IT.
Simple. The rifle was left when none of the other weapons were left,
and the 'patsy' got blamed for the murder. The plot worked.
What about someone planting a revolver near the TSBD the next day? Did
anyone fall for that? How about the Lester bullet?
Post by mainframetech
Chris
Steve BH
2018-05-19 01:08:12 UTC
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Post by BOZ
At 1:22 p.m. Dallas police found a Mannlicher-Carcano rifle in the
northwest corner of the sixth floor of the TSBD.
AT 122 PM THE DALLAS PD DID NOT FIND A MANNLICHER CARCANO ON THE GRASSY
KNOLL.
Of course, anywhere a shooter was, the weapon as taken away with them.
It would be dumb to leave them. The Oswald MC rifle was left because he
was to be the 'patsy', so evidence had to be present to implicate him.
Chris
Right. Had Oswald been the real shooter, he'd surely have taken the
Carcano out of the depository with him when he left. Shoved up his ass,
maybe?

"Officer Baker, that's one of our employees. And you can tell he was once
a marine...."
mainframetech
2018-05-21 02:39:20 UTC
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Post by Steve BH
Post by mainframetech
Post by BOZ
At 1:22 p.m. Dallas police found a Mannlicher-Carcano rifle in the
northwest corner of the sixth floor of the TSBD.
AT 122 PM THE DALLAS PD DID NOT FIND A MANNLICHER CARCANO ON THE GRASSY
KNOLL.
Of course, anywhere a shooter was, the weapon as taken away with them.
It would be dumb to leave them. The Oswald MC rifle was left because he
was to be the 'patsy', so evidence had to be present to implicate him.
Chris
Right. Had Oswald been the real shooter, he'd surely have taken the
Carcano out of the depository with him when he left. Shoved up his ass,
maybe?
"Officer Baker, that's one of our employees. And you can tell he was once
a marine...."
If you followed the evidence on Oswald, you'd find that he had NO
intention of killing anyone. He wanted to rat on many people, probably to
the FBI. He didn't practice with his rifle, he simply got photos of
himself with it and rolled it up in a blanket and threw in the garage.
The FBI was unable to find any place that he bought ammunition, and when
he bought the rifle, he ignored the ad that was with the rife to buy ammo
for the rifle.

The rifle had problems with the scope from a bad mounting, and that
problem was never fixed so that there was not any practice with the
rifle.

As well, Oswald was not guilty of shooting at the Walker house.

Chris
Anthony Marsh
2018-05-22 16:06:52 UTC
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Post by mainframetech
Post by Steve BH
Post by mainframetech
Post by BOZ
At 1:22 p.m. Dallas police found a Mannlicher-Carcano rifle in the
northwest corner of the sixth floor of the TSBD.
AT 122 PM THE DALLAS PD DID NOT FIND A MANNLICHER CARCANO ON THE GRASSY
KNOLL.
Of course, anywhere a shooter was, the weapon as taken away with them.
It would be dumb to leave them. The Oswald MC rifle was left because he
was to be the 'patsy', so evidence had to be present to implicate him.
Chris
Right. Had Oswald been the real shooter, he'd surely have taken the
Carcano out of the depository with him when he left. Shoved up his ass,
maybe?
"Officer Baker, that's one of our employees. And you can tell he was once
a marine...."
If you followed the evidence on Oswald, you'd find that he had NO
intention of killing anyone. He wanted to rat on many people, probably to
What about Walker, can't you even admit that?
Post by mainframetech
the FBI. He didn't practice with his rifle, he simply got photos of
himself with it and rolled it up in a blanket and threw in the garage.
What did he do with the other 16 rounds? Eat them?
Post by mainframetech
The FBI was unable to find any place that he bought ammunition, and when
he bought the rifle, he ignored the ad that was with the rife to buy ammo
for the rifle.
Maybe with good reason, to get better ammo.
Post by mainframetech
The rifle had problems with the scope from a bad mounting, and that
problem was never fixed so that there was not any practice with the
rifle.
We don't know when the scope got screwed up.
Post by mainframetech
As well, Oswald was not guilty of shooting at the Walker house.
So he just left the note for Marina for fun and confessed to take credit
for something he didn't do?
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Chris
bigdog
2018-05-19 01:12:12 UTC
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Post by BOZ
At 1:22 p.m. Dallas police found a Mannlicher-Carcano rifle in the
northwest corner of the sixth floor of the TSBD.
AT 122 PM THE DALLAS PD DID NOT FIND A MANNLICHER CARCANO ON THE GRASSY
KNOLL.
Of course, anywhere a shooter was, the weapon as taken away with them.
It would be dumb to leave them. The Oswald MC rifle was left because he
was to be the 'patsy', so evidence had to be present to implicate him.
I've always said we can't know what was going on in the mind of Oswald but
I think I'm safe in saying he left the rifle behind because he would have
drawn attention to himself if he carried it out of the TSBD minutes after
the president had been shot. Imagine if he had still been holding it when
Baker confronted him in the lunchroom.
Jason Burke
2018-05-19 01:28:03 UTC
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Post by mainframetech
Post by BOZ
At 1:22 p.m. Dallas police found a Mannlicher-Carcano rifle in the
northwest corner of the sixth floor of the TSBD.
AT 122 PM THE DALLAS PD DID NOT FIND A MANNLICHER CARCANO ON THE GRASSY
KNOLL.
Of course, anywhere a shooter was, the weapon as taken away with them.
It would be dumb to leave them. The Oswald MC rifle was left because he
was to be the 'patsy', so evidence had to be present to implicate him.
Chris
Desperate. Really desperate.
Anthony Marsh
2018-05-20 00:59:13 UTC
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Post by Jason Burke
Post by BOZ
At 1:22 p.m. Dallas police found a Mannlicher-Carcano rifle in the
northwest corner of the sixth floor of the TSBD.
AT 122 PM THE DALLAS PD DID NOT FIND A MANNLICHER CARCANO ON THE GRASSY
KNOLL.
    Of course, anywhere a shooter was, the weapon as taken away with
them.
It would be dumb to leave them.  The Oswald MC rifle was left because he
was to be the 'patsy', so evidence had to be present to implicate him.
Chris
Desperate. Really desperate.
So you say that the person who fired the shots must always be the one
who owns the weapon. Is that a real rule or just your opinion?
So, the shooter today was the father because he owned the revolver and
the shotgun?
Bill Clarke
2018-05-19 14:43:31 UTC
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In article <b464a138-f873-446f-92e7-***@googlegroups.com>,
mainframetech says...
Post by mainframetech
Post by BOZ
At 1:22 p.m. Dallas police found a Mannlicher-Carcano rifle in the
northwest corner of the sixth floor of the TSBD.
AT 122 PM THE DALLAS PD DID NOT FIND A MANNLICHER CARCANO ON THE GRASSY
KNOLL.
Of course, anywhere a shooter was, the weapon as taken away with them.
It would be dumb to leave them. The Oswald MC rifle was left because he
was to be the 'patsy', so evidence had to be present to implicate him.
Chris
And then there is the more simple explanation that it would make it much
easier to escape if one wasn't carrying a rifle with him. Doing so would
make a person stand out like a sore thumb in a crowd. Isn't there a
saying about the most simple explanation?
Anthony Marsh
2018-05-20 18:36:14 UTC
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Post by Bill Clarke
mainframetech says...
Post by mainframetech
Post by BOZ
At 1:22 p.m. Dallas police found a Mannlicher-Carcano rifle in the
northwest corner of the sixth floor of the TSBD.
AT 122 PM THE DALLAS PD DID NOT FIND A MANNLICHER CARCANO ON THE GRASSY
KNOLL.
Of course, anywhere a shooter was, the weapon as taken away with them.
It would be dumb to leave them. The Oswald MC rifle was left because he
was to be the 'patsy', so evidence had to be present to implicate him.
Chris
And then there is the more simple explanation that it would make it much
easier to escape if one wasn't carrying a rifle with him. Doing so would
make a person stand out like a sore thumb in a crowd. Isn't there a
saying about the most simple explanation?
What about the man seen carrying a rifle up to the grassy knoll? Didn't
THAT stick out like a sore thumb or didn't you even know about it?
mainframetech
2018-05-21 02:38:45 UTC
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Post by Bill Clarke
mainframetech says...
Post by mainframetech
Post by BOZ
At 1:22 p.m. Dallas police found a Mannlicher-Carcano rifle in the
northwest corner of the sixth floor of the TSBD.
AT 122 PM THE DALLAS PD DID NOT FIND A MANNLICHER CARCANO ON THE GRASSY
KNOLL.
Of course, anywhere a shooter was, the weapon as taken away with them.
It would be dumb to leave them. The Oswald MC rifle was left because he
was to be the 'patsy', so evidence had to be present to implicate him.
Chris
And then there is the more simple explanation that it would make it much
easier to escape if one wasn't carrying a rifle with him. Doing so would
make a person stand out like a sore thumb in a crowd. Isn't there a
saying about the most simple explanation?
Among simple explanations is the story that When Oswald reached the
first floor level, he hid the rifle there. Less chance it would be found
than on the floor where street witnesses saw a rifle sticking out.

Chris
Anthony Marsh
2018-05-22 16:07:22 UTC
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Post by Bill Clarke
mainframetech says...
Post by mainframetech
Post by BOZ
At 1:22 p.m. Dallas police found a Mannlicher-Carcano rifle in the
northwest corner of the sixth floor of the TSBD.
AT 122 PM THE DALLAS PD DID NOT FIND A MANNLICHER CARCANO ON THE GRASSY
KNOLL.
Of course, anywhere a shooter was, the weapon as taken away with them.
It would be dumb to leave them. The Oswald MC rifle was left because he
was to be the 'patsy', so evidence had to be present to implicate him.
Chris
And then there is the more simple explanation that it would make it much
easier to escape if one wasn't carrying a rifle with him. Doing so would
make a person stand out like a sore thumb in a crowd. Isn't there a
saying about the most simple explanation?
Among simple explanations is the story that When Oswald reached the
first floor level, he hid the rifle there. Less chance it would be found
I am not familiar with that story. Was it in a book? Why do you need
Oswald to go all the way to the first floor to hide the rifle? Then he'd
have to go to the second floor. Maybe he hid it in the Coke machine.
Post by mainframetech
than on the floor where street witnesses saw a rifle sticking out.
Chris
Anthony Marsh
2018-05-18 20:42:23 UTC
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Post by BOZ
At 1:22 p.m. Dallas police found a Mannlicher-Carcano rifle in the
northwest corner of the sixth floor of the TSBD.
AT 122 PM THE DALLAS PD DID NOT FIND A MANNLICHER CARCANO ON THE GRASSY
KNOLL.
Too late. It was gone by then.
BOZ
2018-05-19 14:49:17 UTC
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Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by BOZ
At 1:22 p.m. Dallas police found a Mannlicher-Carcano rifle in the
northwest corner of the sixth floor of the TSBD.
AT 122 PM THE DALLAS PD DID NOT FIND A MANNLICHER CARCANO ON THE GRASSY
KNOLL.
Too late. It was gone by then.
PROOF. IT WAS NEVER THERE. IT ONLY EXISTS IN YOUR MIND.
Anthony Marsh
2018-05-20 18:34:55 UTC
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Post by BOZ
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by BOZ
At 1:22 p.m. Dallas police found a Mannlicher-Carcano rifle in the
northwest corner of the sixth floor of the TSBD.
AT 122 PM THE DALLAS PD DID NOT FIND A MANNLICHER CARCANO ON THE GRASSY
KNOLL.
Too late. It was gone by then.
PROOF. IT WAS NEVER THERE. IT ONLY EXISTS IN YOUR MIND.
I could say the same things about your opinions.
Originally they said they found a Mauser in the TSBD.
Did that magically disappear?
BOZ
2018-05-21 19:57:10 UTC
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Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by BOZ
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by BOZ
At 1:22 p.m. Dallas police found a Mannlicher-Carcano rifle in the
northwest corner of the sixth floor of the TSBD.
AT 122 PM THE DALLAS PD DID NOT FIND A MANNLICHER CARCANO ON THE GRASSY
KNOLL.
Too late. It was gone by then.
PROOF. IT WAS NEVER THERE. IT ONLY EXISTS IN YOUR MIND.
I could say the same things about your opinions.
Originally they said they found a Mauser in the TSBD.
Did that magically disappear?
A CARCANO IS AN ITALIAN MAUSER. MAUSER REFERS TO THE BOLT ACTION.
Anthony Marsh
2018-05-23 01:34:20 UTC
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Post by BOZ
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by BOZ
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by BOZ
At 1:22 p.m. Dallas police found a Mannlicher-Carcano rifle in the
northwest corner of the sixth floor of the TSBD.
AT 122 PM THE DALLAS PD DID NOT FIND A MANNLICHER CARCANO ON THE GRASSY
KNOLL.
Too late. It was gone by then.
PROOF. IT WAS NEVER THERE. IT ONLY EXISTS IN YOUR MIND.
I could say the same things about your opinions.
Originally they said they found a Mauser in the TSBD.
Did that magically disappear?
A CARCANO IS AN ITALIAN MAUSER. MAUSER REFERS TO THE BOLT ACTION.
So your solution is to say that 1=2.
It LOOKED like a Mauser. A Carcano is not a Mauser.
Your argument is so specious that it would mean that EVERY bolt action
rifle is a Mauser.
bigdog
2018-05-23 03:17:12 UTC
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Post by BOZ
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by BOZ
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by BOZ
At 1:22 p.m. Dallas police found a Mannlicher-Carcano rifle in the
northwest corner of the sixth floor of the TSBD.
AT 122 PM THE DALLAS PD DID NOT FIND A MANNLICHER CARCANO ON THE GRASSY
KNOLL.
Too late. It was gone by then.
PROOF. IT WAS NEVER THERE. IT ONLY EXISTS IN YOUR MIND.
I could say the same things about your opinions.
Originally they said they found a Mauser in the TSBD.
Did that magically disappear?
A CARCANO IS AN ITALIAN MAUSER. MAUSER REFERS TO THE BOLT ACTION.
The Carcano is not a Mauser although it is sometimes referred to as such
because it uses a Mauser type bolt action. The misnomer Mannlicher-Carcano
stems from the use of an en bloc clip first developed by Ferdinand
Mannlicher for his Austrian made 1885 rifles. The Carcano does not use the
Mannlicher en bloc clip but a similar one developed for the German Model
1888 Commission Rifle.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carcano

The WC may have been the originator of the erroneous term
Mannlicher-Carcano. It is one of the few things they got wrong.
Steve BH
2018-05-23 20:59:07 UTC
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Post by bigdog
Post by BOZ
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by BOZ
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by BOZ
At 1:22 p.m. Dallas police found a Mannlicher-Carcano rifle in the
northwest corner of the sixth floor of the TSBD.
AT 122 PM THE DALLAS PD DID NOT FIND A MANNLICHER CARCANO ON THE GRASSY
KNOLL.
Too late. It was gone by then.
PROOF. IT WAS NEVER THERE. IT ONLY EXISTS IN YOUR MIND.
I could say the same things about your opinions.
Originally they said they found a Mauser in the TSBD.
Did that magically disappear?
A CARCANO IS AN ITALIAN MAUSER. MAUSER REFERS TO THE BOLT ACTION.
The Carcano is not a Mauser although it is sometimes referred to as such
because it uses a Mauser type bolt action. The misnomer Mannlicher-Carcano
stems from the use of an en bloc clip first developed by Ferdinand
Mannlicher for his Austrian made 1885 rifles. The Carcano does not use the
Mannlicher en bloc clip but a similar one developed for the German Model
1888 Commission Rifle.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carcano
The WC may have been the originator of the erroneous term
Mannlicher-Carcano. It is one of the few things they got wrong.
Indeed the WC got it wrong, but they are not the originators of the error.
I think that distinction belongs to the Western Cartridge Company, which
made 6.5 x 52 mm cartridges with 160 gr. round nosed FMJ slugs, designed
to be fired in surplus Mannlicher and Carcano rifles. This ammo was boxed
and sold as "Mannlicher-Carcano" ammunition. If you Google for the image,
you can see some boxes. Oswald must have bought at least one of these in
Dallas in late March, 1963 after taking delivery of the rifle. He didn't
buy any ammo with it, thus clearly had to buy his own American ammo (and
the three brass and one life cartridges found with the rifle in the TSBD
had indeed been made by Western).

Because the FMJ military-style ammo was sold as "Mannlicher-Carcano"
ammunition, a few people decided that Oswald's rifle, which fired this
stuff, was a Mannlicher-Carcano rifle. Of course, it was not.

In Italian, if fact, the rifles are known as "CAR-can-oh" with accent on
first, not second syllable. I suppose that is hypercorrectionalistic.

"Arma virum Carcano." -- Virgilius Al Yankovic
Anthony Marsh
2018-05-24 14:29:50 UTC
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Post by bigdog
Post by BOZ
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by BOZ
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by BOZ
At 1:22 p.m. Dallas police found a Mannlicher-Carcano rifle in the
northwest corner of the sixth floor of the TSBD.
AT 122 PM THE DALLAS PD DID NOT FIND A MANNLICHER CARCANO ON THE GRASSY
KNOLL.
Too late. It was gone by then.
PROOF. IT WAS NEVER THERE. IT ONLY EXISTS IN YOUR MIND.
I could say the same things about your opinions.
Originally they said they found a Mauser in the TSBD.
Did that magically disappear?
A CARCANO IS AN ITALIAN MAUSER. MAUSER REFERS TO THE BOLT ACTION.
The Carcano is not a Mauser although it is sometimes referred to as such
because it uses a Mauser type bolt action. The misnomer Mannlicher-Carcano
stems from the use of an en bloc clip first developed by Ferdinand
Mannlicher for his Austrian made 1885 rifles. The Carcano does not use the
Mannlicher en bloc clip but a similar one developed for the German Model
1888 Commission Rifle.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carcano
The WC may have been the originator of the erroneous term
Mannlicher-Carcano. It is one of the few things they got wrong.
It's not fair to blame it all on the WC.
Other people started calling it a Mannlicher-Carcano even before the WC.
Maybe you should blame Walter Chronkite. Whenever he said anything, the
public accepted it as the absolute truth.
Steve BH
2018-05-23 20:49:43 UTC
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Post by BOZ
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by BOZ
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by BOZ
At 1:22 p.m. Dallas police found a Mannlicher-Carcano rifle in the
northwest corner of the sixth floor of the TSBD.
AT 122 PM THE DALLAS PD DID NOT FIND A MANNLICHER CARCANO ON THE GRASSY
KNOLL.
Too late. It was gone by then.
PROOF. IT WAS NEVER THERE. IT ONLY EXISTS IN YOUR MIND.
I could say the same things about your opinions.
Originally they said they found a Mauser in the TSBD.
Did that magically disappear?
A CARCANO IS AN ITALIAN MAUSER. MAUSER REFERS TO THE BOLT ACTION.
"Mauser" refers to a rifle made by the German arms company Königliche
Waffen Schmieden, founded by the Mauser brothers. It doesn't have a thing
to do with bolt actions. The Mausers did not invent the bolt action. They
did once patent a type of bolt with a non-rotary type of lock.
John McAdams
2018-05-23 21:01:59 UTC
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Post by BOZ
Post by Anthony Marsh
I could say the same things about your opinions.
Originally they said they found a Mauser in the TSBD.
Did that magically disappear?
A CARCANO IS AN ITALIAN MAUSER. MAUSER REFERS TO THE BOLT ACTION.
"Mauser" refers to a rifle made by the German arms company Königliche
Waffen Schmieden, founded by the Mauser brothers. It doesn't have a thing
to do with bolt actions. The Mausers did not invent the bolt action. They
did once patent a type of bolt with a non-rotary type of lock.
A couple of pieces of testimony from Weitzman:


Mr. BALL - In the statement that you made to the Dallas Police
Department that afternoon, you referred to the rifle as a 7.65 Mauser
bolt action?
Mr. WEITZMAN - In a glance, that's what it looked like.

[a little later]

Mr. BALL - I understand that. Now, in your statement to the Federal
Bureau of Investigation, you gave a description of the rifle, how it
looked.
Mr. WEITZMAN - I said it was a Mauser-type action, didn't I?
Mr. BALL - Mauser bolt action.

Weitzman, whose stint working in a sporting goods store was far from
making him a weapons expert, seem to think that "Mauser" was a generic
term for a bolt action rifle, or perhaps that "Mauser" was a good
guess of what such a rifle must be.

Obviously, he was wrong, and the Alyea film shows Oswald's
Mannlicher-Carcano.

.John
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http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/home.htm
Anthony Marsh
2018-05-24 22:02:20 UTC
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Post by Steve BH
Post by BOZ
Post by Anthony Marsh
I could say the same things about your opinions.
Originally they said they found a Mauser in the TSBD.
Did that magically disappear?
A CARCANO IS AN ITALIAN MAUSER. MAUSER REFERS TO THE BOLT ACTION.
"Mauser" refers to a rifle made by the German arms company Königliche
Waffen Schmieden, founded by the Mauser brothers. It doesn't have a thing
to do with bolt actions. The Mausers did not invent the bolt action. They
did once patent a type of bolt with a non-rotary type of lock.
Mr. BALL - In the statement that you made to the Dallas Police
Department that afternoon, you referred to the rifle as a 7.65 Mauser
bolt action?
Mr. WEITZMAN - In a glance, that's what it looked like.
[a little later]
Mr. BALL - I understand that. Now, in your statement to the Federal
Bureau of Investigation, you gave a description of the rifle, how it
looked.
Mr. WEITZMAN - I said it was a Mauser-type action, didn't I?
Mr. BALL - Mauser bolt action.
Weitzman, whose stint working in a sporting goods store was far from
making him a weapons expert, seem to think that "Mauser" was a generic
term for a bolt action rifle, or perhaps that "Mauser" was a good
guess of what such a rifle must be.
Yes, but I don't blame him. It was an honest mistake.
Post by John McAdams
Obviously, he was wrong, and the Alyea film shows Oswald's
Mannlicher-Carcano.
Careful, we have some kooks who will deny even that. And some will say
the Carcano was planted after the Mauser was found.
Post by John McAdams
.John
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