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Jeff Morley's piece for JustSecurity
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Marcus Hanson
2019-05-07 02:42:17 UTC
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Steve M. Galbraith
2019-05-08 17:14:47 UTC
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That's some of the most hyperbolic and exaggerated claims I've read in a
long time. It's like reading a tabloid magazine.

This is particularly tendentious: "The first was Joannides’ role
in an authorized and deniable CIA psychological warfare operation that
generated propaganda about Oswald. A job evaluation from 1963 revealed
Joannides ran a CIA-funded anti-Castro student group, the Cuban Student
Directorate, known by the code name AMSPELL. Within 48 hours of
Kennedy’s death, Joannides’ agents published the first JFK
conspiracy theory, claiming Oswald and Cuban leader Fidel Castro, were
“the presumed assassins.”

There isn't a shred of evidence that "Joannide's agents" acted on
instructions of him or the CIA.

Of course, Morley doesn't explicitly say that. But he clearly is trying to
mislead the average reader into thinking so.
Steve M. Galbraith
2019-05-12 23:00:50 UTC
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That's some of the most hyperbolic and exaggerated claims I've read in a
long time. It's like reading a tabloid magazine.
This is particularly tendentious: "The first was Joannides’ role
in an authorized and deniable CIA psychological warfare operation that
generated propaganda about Oswald. A job evaluation from 1963 revealed
Joannides ran a CIA-funded anti-Castro student group, the Cuban Student
Directorate, known by the code name AMSPELL. Within 48 hours of
Kennedy’s death, Joannides’ agents published the first JFK
conspiracy theory, claiming Oswald and Cuban leader Fidel Castro, were
“the presumed assassins.”
There isn't a shred of evidence that "Joannide's agents" acted on
instructions of him or the CIA.
Of course, Morley doesn't explicitly say that. But he clearly is trying to
mislead the average reader into thinking so.
Morley himself says this about the anti-Castro groups disseminating
post-assassination stories that connected Oswald to Castro (in his book on
on Win Scott):

"All the former leaders [of the DRE] emphasized that they did not take
orders from the CIA, and there is good reason to take them at their word.
In 1963, they were passionate young anticommunists who feared their
homeland was in danger of slipping under one-party control forever. They
did not need a CIA man from Washington [i.e., Joannides] to tell them to
take action against a public supporter of Castro like Oswald."

So here he admits that these leaders didn't take orders from the CIA
specifically Joannides. Then he suggests in the above story they did.

Which Morley to believe?
W. Tracy Parnell
2019-05-14 03:12:22 UTC
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That's some of the most hyperbolic and exaggerated claims I've read in a
long time. It's like reading a tabloid magazine.
This is particularly tendentious: "The first was Joannides’ role
in an authorized and deniable CIA psychological warfare operation that
generated propaganda about Oswald. A job evaluation from 1963 revealed
Joannides ran a CIA-funded anti-Castro student group, the Cuban Student
Directorate, known by the code name AMSPELL. Within 48 hours of
Kennedy’s death, Joannides’ agents published the first JFK
conspiracy theory, claiming Oswald and Cuban leader Fidel Castro, were
“the presumed assassins.”
There isn't a shred of evidence that "Joannide's agents" acted on
instructions of him or the CIA.
Of course, Morley doesn't explicitly say that. But he clearly is trying to
mislead the average reader into thinking so.
Morley himself says this about the anti-Castro groups disseminating
post-assassination stories that connected Oswald to Castro (in his book on
"All the former leaders [of the DRE] emphasized that they did not take
orders from the CIA, and there is good reason to take them at their word.
In 1963, they were passionate young anticommunists who feared their
homeland was in danger of slipping under one-party control forever. They
did not need a CIA man from Washington [i.e., Joannides] to tell them to
take action against a public supporter of Castro like Oswald."
So here he admits that these leaders didn't take orders from the CIA
specifically Joannides. Then he suggests in the above story they did.
Which Morley to believe?
More evidence that Morley is well aware that the DRE didn't take orders
and that the CIA through Joannides did not have anything to do with the
"presumed assassins" information the DRE published-they actually tried to
stop it. Again the evidence comes from Morley's own writings, this quote
is from Bugliosi's Reclaiming History speaking about Morley's "Revelation
19.63" piece in the Miami New Times:

"Morley writes that when José Antonio Lanuza, the coordinator of the
DRE’s North American chapters, heard the stories on November 22,
19= 63, that linked Oswald to the shooting, he “remembered
delegate Carlos Bringuier’s reports from New Orleans and went to
DRE headquarters to check his files. There he found Bringuier’s
letter about the confrontations with Oswald, along with tapes of the WDSU
radio debate. The groups’ leaders gathered, he said, and one of
them—Salvat, Fernandez-Rocha, or Borja—made the first
outside call about the discovered material.” The call was to
Joannides, who told the DRE representative not to do anything or contact
anyone else for at least an hour so he could contact Washington
headquarters for instructions. But by the time Joannides called back to
tell the DRE leaders to hold what they had until the FBI came to pick it
up, Lanuza was so anxious to release the information about
Oswald’s being associated with the pro-Castro group FPCC that he
contacted the New York Times and Miami News before the hour was up."
Steve M. Galbraith
2019-05-15 01:30:00 UTC
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That's some of the most hyperbolic and exaggerated claims I've read in a
long time. It's like reading a tabloid magazine.
This is particularly tendentious: "The first was Joannides’ role
in an authorized and deniable CIA psychological warfare operation that
generated propaganda about Oswald. A job evaluation from 1963 revealed
Joannides ran a CIA-funded anti-Castro student group, the Cuban Student
Directorate, known by the code name AMSPELL. Within 48 hours of
Kennedy’s death, Joannides’ agents published the first JFK
conspiracy theory, claiming Oswald and Cuban leader Fidel Castro, were
“the presumed assassins.”
There isn't a shred of evidence that "Joannide's agents" acted on
instructions of him or the CIA.
Of course, Morley doesn't explicitly say that. But he clearly is trying to
mislead the average reader into thinking so.
Morley himself says this about the anti-Castro groups disseminating
post-assassination stories that connected Oswald to Castro (in his book on
"All the former leaders [of the DRE] emphasized that they did not take
orders from the CIA, and there is good reason to take them at their word.
In 1963, they were passionate young anticommunists who feared their
homeland was in danger of slipping under one-party control forever. They
did not need a CIA man from Washington [i.e., Joannides] to tell them to
take action against a public supporter of Castro like Oswald."
So here he admits that these leaders didn't take orders from the CIA
specifically Joannides. Then he suggests in the above story they did.
Which Morley to believe?
More evidence that Morley is well aware that the DRE didn't take orders
and that the CIA through Joannides did not have anything to do with the
"presumed assassins" information the DRE published-they actually tried to
stop it. Again the evidence comes from Morley's own writings, this quote
is from Bugliosi's Reclaiming History speaking about Morley's "Revelation
"Morley writes that when José Antonio Lanuza, the coordinator of the
DRE’s North American chapters, heard the stories on November 22,
19 63, that linked Oswald to the shooting, he “remembered
delegate Carlos Bringuier’s reports from New Orleans and went to
DRE headquarters to check his files. There he found Bringuier’s
letter about the confrontations with Oswald, along with tapes of the WDSU
radio debate. The groups’ leaders gathered, he said, and one of
them—Salvat, Fernandez-Rocha, or Borja—made the first
outside call about the discovered material.” The call was to
Joannides, who told the DRE representative not to do anything or contact
anyone else for at least an hour so he could contact Washington
headquarters for instructions. But by the time Joannides called back to
tell the DRE leaders to hold what they had until the FBI came to pick it
up, Lanuza was so anxious to release the information about
Oswald’s being associated with the pro-Castro group FPCC that he
contacted the New York Times and Miami News before the hour was up."
Tracy: Yes, that account is also in Morley's book on Scott.

Here's part of it: "They [i.e., the leaders of the DRE] wanted to go
public [about Oswald's pro-Castro views], they told their CIA handler
[Joannides].

"He said he had to consult with Washington and that we should not do
anything," recalls Tony Lanuza. "We went ahead anyway." The DRE leaders
began telling people that Kennedy's killer was a Castro supporter who had
lived in "the home of the Soviet foreign minister for two months."
Ramon F Herrera
2019-05-11 23:39:14 UTC
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That is a perfect example of losing fights that most be fought.

(1) The Supreme Court agrees to hear only about 1% of cases that are
brought to it.

(2) The most recent member of the court -a Trumpite and ergo Destroyer
of Evidence- already told Jeff Morley: "Go to hell".

-Ramon
JFK Numbers

#FreeTheCranium
#FreeTheBlueprints

ps:
https://abovethelaw.com/2019/05/brett-kavanaugh-anthony-kennedy-rehabilitation-insult/
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