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Jack Ruby in front of the TSBD
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John McAdams
2011-05-13 03:13:09 UTC
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Jack Ruby in front of the TSBD
Jack was not in the Dallas Morning News at the time of the JFK murder
as he testified and the Warren Wizards believed.
http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/viewer/showDoc.do?docId=486...http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/viewer/showDoc.do?docId=486...
http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/viewer/showDoc.do?docId=486...
Jack Ruby telephoned a friend on November 22nd and asked if he would
"like to watch the fireworks." Unknown to Ruby, his friend was an
informant for the criminal intelligence division of the Internal
Revenue Service. He and Ruby were standing at the corner of the Postal
Annex Building at the time of the shooting. Minutes after the shooting
Phil Willis, who knew Jack Ruby, saw and photographed a man who looked
like Ruby near the front of the School Book Depository.
You're going to need to supply a citation for that.

.John
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John McAdams
2011-05-13 03:16:37 UTC
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John McAdams wrote,
" I don't think you have any evidence that Ruby was a pimp. In fact,
he was rather moralistic about the notion that some of his
"girls" might be hustling. "
The Warren Commission took a great deal of testimony from people who
werelittle more than character witnesses for Jack Ruby. Despite the
greatheaps of paperwork available to them which characterized Ruby as
asmuggler of arms and narcotics, a pimp, a man of some importance to
the Chicago Mob,
In about January 1956, a pimp named James Breen met with Ruby to
discuss collaboration ...
Comment?
You need a citation.

.John
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Raymond
2011-05-13 13:14:04 UTC
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Post by John McAdams
John McAdams wrote,
" I don't think you have any evidence that Ruby was a pimp. In fact,
he was rather moralistic about the notion that some of his
"girls" might be hustling. "
The Warren Commission took a great deal of testimony from people who
werelittle more than character witnesses for Jack Ruby. Despite the
greatheaps of paperwork available to them which characterized Ruby as
asmuggler of arms and narcotics, a pimp, a man of some importance to
the Chicago Mob,
In about January 1956, a pimp named James Breen met with Ruby to
discuss collaboration ...
Comment?
You need a citation.
.John
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Hi John
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Jack Ruby telephoned a friend on November 22nd and asked if he would
"like to watch the fireworks." Unknown to Ruby, his friend was an
informant for the criminal intelligence division of the Internal
Revenue Service. He and Ruby were standing at the corner of the Postal
Annex Building at the time of the shooting. Minutes after the shooting
Phil Willis, who knew Jack Ruby, saw and photographed a man who looked
like Ruby near the front of the School Book Depository

http://www.jfkassassinationforum.com/index.php?topic=2718.0;wap2
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Anthony Marsh
2011-05-13 13:12:15 UTC
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Post by John McAdams
Jack Ruby in front of the TSBD
Jack was not in the Dallas Morning News at the time of the JFK murder
as he testified and the Warren Wizards believed.
http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/viewer/showDoc.do?docId=486...http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/viewer/showDoc.do?docId=486...
http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/viewer/showDoc.do?docId=486...
Jack Ruby telephoned a friend on November 22nd and asked if he would
"like to watch the fireworks." Unknown to Ruby, his friend was an
informant for the criminal intelligence division of the Internal
Revenue Service. He and Ruby were standing at the corner of the Postal
Annex Building at the time of the shooting. Minutes after the shooting
Phil Willis, who knew Jack Ruby, saw and photographed a man who looked
like Ruby near the front of the School Book Depository.
You're going to need to supply a citation for that.
.John
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http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/home.htm
The warm weather brings them out from hiding.
Ace Kefford
2011-05-13 13:22:01 UTC
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Post by John McAdams
Jack Ruby in front of the TSBD
Jack was not in the Dallas Morning News at the time of the JFK murder
as he testified and the Warren Wizards believed.
http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/viewer/showDoc.do?docId=486......
http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/viewer/showDoc.do?docId=486...
Jack Ruby telephoned a friend on November 22nd and asked if he would
"like to watch the fireworks." Unknown to Ruby, his friend was an
informant for the criminal intelligence division of the Internal
Revenue Service. He and Ruby were standing at the corner of the Postal
Annex Building at the time of the shooting. Minutes after the shooting
Phil Willis, who knew Jack Ruby, saw and photographed a man who looked
like Ruby near the front of the School Book Depository.
You're going to need to supply a citation for that.
.John
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John,

On the Willis photo, it's pretty well known that Willis speculated
that one of his post-shooting photos might show Jack Ruby. (That may
have even been covered in his Warren Commission testimony.) My
recollection, which might be wrong, is that a researcher (and I
believe it was a conspiracy-based researcher) later used other
photographs of the same scene to show that the possible Ruby was not
in fact our man Jack.

As for the IRS informant and "fireworks" that does not ring any bells
with me. (And, of course, would make no sense for Ruby to say if he
had foreknowledge of the upcoming assassination -- although it seems
he was such an odd guy I suppose he might have).

Ace
Lt.Bullitt
2011-05-13 15:02:41 UTC
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Post by John McAdams
Jack Ruby in front of the TSBD
Jack was not in the Dallas Morning News at the time of the JFK murder
as he testified and the Warren Wizards believed.
http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/viewer/showDoc.do?docId=486......
http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/viewer/showDoc.do?docId=486...
Jack Ruby telephoned a friend on November 22nd and asked if he would
"like to watch the fireworks." Unknown to Ruby, his friend was an
informant for the criminal intelligence division of the Internal
Revenue Service. He and Ruby were standing at the corner of the Postal
Annex Building at the time of the shooting. Minutes after the shooting
Phil Willis, who knew Jack Ruby, saw and photographed a man who looked
like Ruby near the front of the School Book Depository.
You're going to need to supply a citation for that.
.John
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John,
On the Willis photo, it's pretty well known that Willis speculated
that one of his post-shooting photos might show Jack Ruby.  (That may
have even been covered in his Warren Commission testimony.)  My
recollection, which might be wrong, is that a researcher (and I
believe it was a conspiracy-based researcher) later used other
photographs of the same scene to show that the possible Ruby was not
in fact our man Jack.
As for the IRS informant and "fireworks" that does not ring any bells
with me.  (And, of course, would make no sense for Ruby to say if he
had foreknowledge of the upcoming assassination -- although it seems
he was such an odd guy I suppose he might have).
Ace- Hide quoted text -
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Victoria Adams thought she saw Jack Ruby "standing on the corner of
Houston and Elm asking questions there." She also "noticed him take a
colored boy away on a motorcycle."

Is this corroboration of Willis or more evidence that she was a very
shaky witness at best?
Ace Kefford
2011-05-14 01:19:29 UTC
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Post by Lt.Bullitt
Post by Ace Kefford
Post by John McAdams
Jack Ruby in front of the TSBD
Jack was not in the Dallas Morning News at the time of the JFK murder
as he testified and the Warren Wizards believed.
http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/viewer/showDoc.do?docId=486......
http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/viewer/showDoc.do?docId=486...
Jack Ruby telephoned a friend on November 22nd and asked if he would
"like to watch the fireworks." Unknown to Ruby, his friend was an
informant for the criminal intelligence division of the Internal
Revenue Service. He and Ruby were standing at the corner of the Postal
Annex Building at the time of the shooting. Minutes after the shooting
Phil Willis, who knew Jack Ruby, saw and photographed a man who looked
like Ruby near the front of the School Book Depository.
You're going to need to supply a citation for that.
.John
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John,
On the Willis photo, it's pretty well known that Willis speculated
that one of his post-shooting photos might show Jack Ruby.  (That may
have even been covered in his Warren Commission testimony.)  My
recollection, which might be wrong, is that a researcher (and I
believe it was a conspiracy-based researcher) later used other
photographs of the same scene to show that the possible Ruby was not
in fact our man Jack.
As for the IRS informant and "fireworks" that does not ring any bells
with me.  (And, of course, would make no sense for Ruby to say if he
had foreknowledge of the upcoming assassination -- although it seems
he was such an odd guy I suppose he might have).
Ace- Hide quoted text -
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Victoria Adams thought she saw Jack Ruby "standing on the corner of
Houston and Elm asking questions there."  She also "noticed him take a
colored boy away on a motorcycle."
Is this corroboration of Willis or more evidence that she was a very
shaky witness at best?- Hide quoted text -
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Lt.,

I'm only operating off memory, but I am pretty sure that a researcher by
using other photos made it clear that the man in the Willis photo was not
Ruby.

I realize that's not enough to settle this, since it is off my claim to a
shaky memory, but I am hoping someone else could cite to that research.

All I know is that IF MY MEMORY IS RIGHT back then when I was still firmly
in the conspiracy camp, these photos convinced me it wasn't Ruby and that
was another "lead" that I tossed aside while pursuing the real
controversies..

Ace
r***@sbcglobal.net
2011-05-15 18:11:03 UTC
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Jack Ruby in front of the TSBD
Jack was not in the Dallas Morning News at the time of the JFK murder
as he testified and the Warren Wizards believed.
http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/viewer/showDoc.do?docId=486......
http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/viewer/showDoc.do?docId=486...
Jack Ruby telephoned a friend on November 22nd and asked if he would
"like to watch the fireworks." Unknown to Ruby, his friend was an
informant for the criminal intelligence division of the Internal
Revenue Service. He and Ruby were standing at the corner of the Postal
Annex Building at the time of the shooting. Minutes after the shooting
Phil Willis, who knew Jack Ruby, saw and photographed a man who looked
like Ruby near the front of the School Book Depository.
You're going to need to supply a citation for that.
.John
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John,
On the Willis photo, it's pretty well known that Willis speculated
that one of his post-shooting photos might show Jack Ruby.  (That may
have even been covered in his Warren Commission testimony.)  My
recollection, which might be wrong, is that a researcher (and I
believe it was a conspiracy-based researcher) later used other
photographs of the same scene to show that the possible Ruby was not
in fact our man Jack.
As for the IRS informant and "fireworks" that does not ring any bells
with me.  (And, of course, would make no sense for Ruby to say if he
had foreknowledge of the upcoming assassination -- although it seems
he was such an odd guy I suppose he might have).
Ace- Hide quoted text -
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Victoria Adams thought she saw Jack Ruby "standing on the corner of
Houston and Elm asking questions there."  She also "noticed him take a
colored boy away on a motorcycle."
Is this corroboration of Willis or more evidence that she was a very
shaky witness at best?- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Lt.,
I'm only operating off memory, but I am pretty sure that a researcher by
using other photos made it clear that the man in the Willis photo was not
Ruby.
I realize that's not enough to settle this, since it is off my claim to a
shaky memory, but I am hoping someone else could cite to that research.
All I know is that IF MY MEMORY IS RIGHT back then when I was still firmly
in the conspiracy camp, these photos convinced me it wasn't Ruby and that
was another "lead" that I tossed aside while pursuing the real
controversies..
Ace
***A TV producer i worked with, produced a conspiracy video, The
Garrison Tapes. The Willis photo of a man resembling Ruby, was
presented in the video. I didn't need a researcher to demonstrate to
me that the person in the photo was not Ruby, despite whatever
resemblance there was.

***Ron Judge

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