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If not Brennan then who? + + + + + + + (crickets) + + + + + + +
Sure, it was Brennan who provided height & weight estimates, though he
could hardly, realistically, have done so.
This is old news. Brennan's description was not perfect. Witnesses
seldom get 100% right. He was probably asked the weight by the police
officer and guessed wrong. Brennan estimated height was 5'10". LHO was
5"9" tall. DPD Baker got it right with LHO standing right in front of
Or was he? [cue Mark Snow music] (obscure reference to The X-Files) If you
try hard enough you could find come crazy theories about a second Oswald
or a KGB replacement Oswald who was not 5'9" tall, but actually 5'10"
tall. And if you want to be a really hip apologist you could claim that
Oswald grew an inch taller from when the Marines FALSELY measured his
height to when he was in the TSBD. Or maybe he was standing on bricks or
something. Try harder.
As a 17 year old teenager when he joined the Marines it is possible LHO
did grow another inch taller after his boot camp photo was taken.
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Just never admit that Brennan never actually saw Oswald in the window.
He saw LHO in the 6th floor window in two different circumstances.
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him, so a very good guess by Brennan down on the street.
Post by donald willis
It was Brennan who volunteered it was a Winchester rifle, though he
admitted he knew nothing about guns.
WC. Interviews. Google.
Please provide a cite where Brennan called it a Winchester.
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It was Brennan who didn't have a clothing description, as per Sawyer's
APB. Though he provides one in his original affidavit.
So maybe it was Sawyer's mistake.
I don't think Sawyer just made it up. Someone said it.
Sawyer was an oddball who was so confused at the scene of the crime even
the Dispatcher had to correct his mistakes.
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And Brennan did not know that the shooter was in the depository, as per
Sawyer's 12:46 transmission.
Obviously Sawyer's mistake
Cops make mistakes all the time. Forgive them and move on.
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Though photos and his affidavit seem to contradict Sawyer.
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Sawyer & Brennan--a perfect match!
CTs groping for anything to discredit Brennan.
He discredited himself.
How so? Several witnesses saw a rifle in the 6th floor window.
What is debatable? Six witness gave statements they saw a rifle in the
6th floor window. They were interviewed by police and signed official
written statements as witnesses.
I find only 4 affidavits from that weekend which even designate a floor
Brennan: "second row of windows from the top"
Worrell: "about 5 or 6 stories up"
Fischer: "there was a man on the fifth floor"
Edwards: "a man at the window on the fifth floor"
As far as I can find, then, only Brennan specifically designated the sixth
floor (or "second... from the top"). A long way from "six".... Actually,
I see no one who specified "6th floor"....
Are you a white supremacist trying to blame 3 black employees? Is Johnny
Powell a friend of yours? Here are two witnesses you missed:
TESTIMONY Of MRS. EARLE CABELL
Mr. HUBERT. The Texas Depository Building?
Mrs. CABELL. I was actually facing it.
Mr. HUBERT. What was the first thing you noticed of an extraordinary nature,
Mrs. CABELL. I heard the shot, and without having to turn my head, I jerked
my head up.
Mr. HUBERT. Why did you do that?
Mrs. CABELL. Because I heard the direction from which the shot came, and I
just jerked my head up.
Mr. HUBERT. What did you see?
Mrs. CABELL. I saw a projection out of one of those windows. Those windows
on the sixth floor are in groups of twos.
Mr. HUBERT. In which window did you see the projection?
Mrs. CABELL. I have always been a little confused about that, but I think
it was the first window.
Mr. HUBERT. On what floor?
Mrs. CABELL. On the top floor. Now I cannot take oath and say which window.
There was some confusion in my mind.
Mr. HUBERT. But you say there were double windows. Is the confusion about
whether it was the first or second double window, or the first or second
window of the double windows?
Mrs. CABELL. The first or second window of the first group of double windows.
Mr. HUBERT. What was this projection?
Mrs. CABELL. I cannot tell you. It was rather long looking, the projection.
Mr. HUBERT. What did it seem like? An arm of an individual, or something
Mrs. CABELL. I did not know, because I did not see a hand or a head or a
human form behind it. It was in just a fleeting second that I jerked my
head up and I saw something in that window, and I turned around to say to
Earle, "Earle, it is a shot", and before I got the words out, just as I
got the words out, he said, "Oh, no; it must have been a "the second two
shots rang out. After that, there is a certain amount of confusion in my
mind. I was acutely aware of the odor of gunpowder. I was aware that the
motorcade stopped dead still. There was no question about that.
Mr. HUBERT. Let me ask you, after the first shot and your observation of
this object in that window as you have described it, you turned your attention
from that window?
Mrs. CABELL. That is right.
Mr. HUBERT. So that you were not looking in the direction of that window
when the second and third shots were fired?
Mrs. CABELL. No.
Mr. HUBERT. Did you look in that direction thereafter?
Mrs. CABELL. If I did, I don't recall. I am completely aware of the people
running up that hill. I saw the man throw the child on the ground and throw
himself. I saw a woman in a bright green dress throw herself on the ground.
I saw the policeman running up the grassy slope.
Mr. HUBERT. You also mentioned that you were acutely aware of the smell of
Mrs. CABELL. Yes.
Mr. HUBERT. When was that relative to the shots? I mean how soon after?
Mrs. CABELL. I cannot say for sure, because as I told you, the motorcade was
stopped. And somewhere in there, Congressman Roberts said, "That is a
.30-06." I didn't know what a .30-06 was.
(Sounds like Congressman Roberts saw it too.)
TESTIMONY OF ROBERT HILL JACKSON
Mr. SPECTER - Will you identify for me on Commission Exhibit 347, Precisely
as possible, where your automobile was at the time you heard the first
Mr. JACKSON - Approximately right here, I would say the midpoint of this
building. Approximately where we heard the first report.
Mr. SPECTER - Now, will you mark a black "X" on 347 the spot where your car
was at the time you heard the first shot?
Mr. JACKSON - Right here approximately. And as we heard the first shot, I
believe it was Tom Dillard from the Dallas News who made some remark as to
that sounding like a firecracker, and it could have been somebody else who
said that. But someone else did speak up and make that comment and before
he actually the sentence we heard the other two shots. Then we realized or
we thought it was gunfire, and then we could not at that point see the
President's car. We were still moving slowly, and after the third shot the
second two shots seemed much closer together than the first shot, than
they were to the first shot. Then after the last shot, I guess all of us
were just looking all around and I just looked straight up ahead of me
which would have been looking at the School Book Depository and I noticed
two Negro men in a window straining to see directly above them, and my
eyes followed right on up to the window above them and I saw the rifle, or
what looked like a rifle approximately half of weapon, I guess I saw. and
just looked at it, it was drawn fairly slowly back into the building, and
I saw no one in the window with it. I didn't even see a form in the
Mr. SPECTER - What did you do next?
Mr. JACKSON - I said "There is the gun," or it came from that window. I tried
to point it out. But by the time the other people looked up, of course,
it was gone, and about that time, we were beginning to turn the corner.
Mr. SPECTER - Which corner were you beginning to turn?
Mr. JACKSON - Houston onto Elm.
Mr. SPECTER - I now show you a photograph marked as Commission Exhibit No.
348 and ask you if you can identify what that depicts?
Mr. JACKSON - This is the School Book Depository. This is the window the
two colored men were looking out of. This is the window where the rifle was.
Mr. SPECTER - Will you mark the window where the rifle was with an "A" and
would you please mark the window where you have identified the men below
with a "B."
Mr. SPECTER - Referring to your mark of "A," the photograph will show that
you have marked the window on the sixth floor with the marking being placed
on the window on the westerly half of the first double window.
Mr. JACKSON - I am sorry. This window here on the very end was the window
where the weapon was. I am sorry, I just marked the double - actually this
is the rifle window right here.
Mr. SPECTER - Will you take the black pencil again and draw an arrow - before
you start to mark, hear the rest of the question - as precisely as you
can to the exact spot where you saw what you have described as the rifle.
Mr. SPECTER - Was the window you have just marked as being the spot from
which the rifle protruded, open when you looked up?
Mr. JACKSON - Yes, sir.
Mr. SPECTER - What is your best recollection as to how far open it was at
Mr. JACKSON - I would say that it was open like that window there, halfway.
Mr. SPECTER - Indicating a window on the sixth floor of the westernmost
portion of the building open halfway as you described it.
My last comment, as to the description of your last window, is only for the
purpose of what you have said in identifying a window to show how far open
the window was.
Mr. JACKSON - Yes.