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Amazing how some people's minds work
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bigdog
2018-06-04 19:22:25 UTC
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In another thread which had digressed to a discussion of alleged Russian
hacking of the 2016 election, one of our most prolific posters made the
following statement:

"Stay tuned to MSNBC. New documents are being released that show how the
RUSSIANS tried to hack the computers. Phising.

They also wanted to modify the voter roles to take off all black voters."

Can you imagine if they had been successful and no black voters were
allowed to vote. Gee, that wouldn't have been too suspicious.
mainframetech
2018-06-04 23:52:35 UTC
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Post by bigdog
In another thread which had digressed to a discussion of alleged Russian
hacking of the 2016 election, one of our most prolific posters made the
"Stay tuned to MSNBC. New documents are being released that show how the
RUSSIANS tried to hack the computers. Phising.
They also wanted to modify the voter roles to take off all black voters."
Can you imagine if they had been successful and no black voters were
allowed to vote. Gee, that wouldn't have been too suspicious.
However, SOME of the black voters could have been stopped, making it
easier to fool enough people to sway the election. The GOP tries to stop
black voters in every election and they use many tricks to do it.

Chris
Jason Burke
2018-06-05 20:49:15 UTC
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Post by bigdog
In another thread which had digressed to a discussion of alleged Russian
hacking of the 2016 election, one of our most prolific posters made the
"Stay tuned to MSNBC. New documents are being released that show how the
RUSSIANS tried to hack the computers. Phising.
They also wanted to modify the voter roles to take off all black voters."
Can you imagine if they had been successful and no black voters were
allowed to vote. Gee, that wouldn't have been too suspicious.
However, SOME of the black voters could have been stopped, making it
easier to fool enough people to sway the election. The GOP tries to stop
black voters in every election and they use many tricks to do it.
Chris
I no they let me be vote four tiems!
XXX
2018-06-06 19:36:26 UTC
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Post by bigdog
In another thread which had digressed to a discussion of alleged Russian
hacking of the 2016 election, one of our most prolific posters made the
"Stay tuned to MSNBC. New documents are being released that show how the
RUSSIANS tried to hack the computers. Phising.
They also wanted to modify the voter roles to take off all black voters."
Can you imagine if they had been successful and no black voters were
allowed to vote. Gee, that wouldn't have been too suspicious.
However, SOME of the black voters could have been stopped, making it
easier to fool enough people to sway the election. The GOP tries to stop
black voters in every election and they use many tricks to do it.
Chris
I no they let me be vote four tiems!
Pro-Trump group linked to Breitbart may have broken election law: expert
BY JOHN BOWDEN - 05/29/18 10:19 AM EDT 51
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Pro-Trump group linked to Breitbart may have broken election law: expert
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A group tied to Breitbart News that was meant to boost President Trump's
support among urban and African-American communities may have violated
election law, according to a former Federal Election Commission (FEC)
general counsel.

Lawrence Noble, who served at the FEC during both GOP and Democratic
administrations, told Bloomberg News that descriptions of the group
"Trump for Urban Communities" from the group's founder, Bruce Carter,
raise questions as to whether the group's financial dealings violated
campaign finance laws.

In an interview with Bloomberg, Carter, who previously founded the
pro-Bernie Sanders group "Black Men for Bernie," described himself as
recruited by Breitbart reporter Dustin Stockton supposedly on behalf of
the Trump campaign to encourage black voters to either stay home or
support Trump over his opponent, Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton, on
Election Day.

A whistleblower from Cambridge Analytica told lawmakers earlier this
month that the Trump campaign coordinated with his data company in an
effort to suppress the black vote.

“If you can’t stomach Trump, just don’t vote for the other people and
don’t vote at all,” Carter described the message the Trump campaign
wanted him to spread. “That’s what they wanted, that’s what they got.”

Carter's group did not report its finances, which he says he believed he
was not required to do as a member of the campaign. However, his group
took donations including at least one as large as $100,000 from a
supporter, which far exceeds the legal $2,700 limit of contributions to
a group that coordinates with a campaign.

“There are some real problems here,” Noble, who now works at the
Campaign Legal Center, told Bloomberg. “I would think this is more than
enough evidence for the FEC to open an investigation.”

The Trump campaign and former Breitbart chairman Stephen Bannon did not
respond to requests for comment from Bloomberg, but the former Breitbart
News chief dismissed allegations that he attempted to suppress the black
vote in 2016 in an interview with the news outlet last week.

“When you ask them why they didn’t vote for her or why they didn’t turn
up, it’s because they didn’t like [Clinton's] policies,” Bannon said.
Bud
2018-06-05 22:11:26 UTC
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Post by bigdog
In another thread which had digressed to a discussion of alleged Russian
hacking of the 2016 election, one of our most prolific posters made the
"Stay tuned to MSNBC. New documents are being released that show how the
RUSSIANS tried to hack the computers. Phising.
They also wanted to modify the voter roles to take off all black voters."
Can you imagine if they had been successful and no black voters were
allowed to vote. Gee, that wouldn't have been too suspicious.
However, SOME of the black voters could have been stopped, making it
easier to fool enough people to sway the election. The GOP tries to stop
black voters in every election and they use many tricks to do it.
Chris
Like those "WHITE ONLY" signs on the polling booths.

Libs love their contrived mythologies and false narratives.
mainframetech
2018-06-07 01:11:53 UTC
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Post by Bud
Post by mainframetech
Post by bigdog
In another thread which had digressed to a discussion of alleged Russian
hacking of the 2016 election, one of our most prolific posters made the
"Stay tuned to MSNBC. New documents are being released that show how the
RUSSIANS tried to hack the computers. Phising.
They also wanted to modify the voter roles to take off all black voters."
Can you imagine if they had been successful and no black voters were
allowed to vote. Gee, that wouldn't have been too suspicious.
However, SOME of the black voters could have been stopped, making it
easier to fool enough people to sway the election. The GOP tries to stop
black voters in every election and they use many tricks to do it.
Chris
Like those "WHITE ONLY" signs on the polling booths.
Libs love their contrived mythologies and false narratives.
As you well know, there are any tactics that are used to keep black
voters away from the polls. Ina number of cases the laws made for that
purpose have had to be put down by the Supreme Court.

https://www.aclu.org/blog/voting-rights/fighting-voter-suppression/alabamas-effort-suppress-black-vote-couldnt-prevent

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voter_suppression_in_the_United_States

https://scholars.org/brief/how-conservatives-rewrote-north-carolina-election-laws-discourage-voter-participation

https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/05/15/528457693/supreme-court-declines-republican-bid-to-revive-north-carolina-voter-id-law


And on and on ad infinitum.

Chris
bigdog
2018-06-08 01:05:10 UTC
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Post by mainframetech
Post by Bud
Post by mainframetech
Post by bigdog
In another thread which had digressed to a discussion of alleged Russian
hacking of the 2016 election, one of our most prolific posters made the
"Stay tuned to MSNBC. New documents are being released that show how the
RUSSIANS tried to hack the computers. Phising.
They also wanted to modify the voter roles to take off all black voters."
Can you imagine if they had been successful and no black voters were
allowed to vote. Gee, that wouldn't have been too suspicious.
However, SOME of the black voters could have been stopped, making it
easier to fool enough people to sway the election. The GOP tries to stop
black voters in every election and they use many tricks to do it.
Chris
Like those "WHITE ONLY" signs on the polling booths.
Libs love their contrived mythologies and false narratives.
As you well know, there are any tactics that are used to keep black
voters away from the polls. Ina number of cases the laws made for that
purpose have had to be put down by the Supreme Court.
https://www.aclu.org/blog/voting-rights/fighting-voter-suppression/alabamas-effort-suppress-black-vote-couldnt-prevent
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voter_suppression_in_the_United_States
https://scholars.org/brief/how-conservatives-rewrote-north-carolina-election-laws-discourage-voter-participation
https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/05/15/528457693/supreme-court-declines-republican-bid-to-revive-north-carolina-voter-id-law
And on and on ad infinitum.
Explain how any of these laws intended to maintain the integrity of our
elections target blacks.
Anthony Marsh
2018-06-09 14:09:31 UTC
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Post by bigdog
Post by mainframetech
Post by Bud
Post by mainframetech
Post by bigdog
In another thread which had digressed to a discussion of alleged Russian
hacking of the 2016 election, one of our most prolific posters made the
"Stay tuned to MSNBC. New documents are being released that show how the
RUSSIANS tried to hack the computers. Phising.
They also wanted to modify the voter roles to take off all black voters."
Can you imagine if they had been successful and no black voters were
allowed to vote. Gee, that wouldn't have been too suspicious.
However, SOME of the black voters could have been stopped, making it
easier to fool enough people to sway the election. The GOP tries to stop
black voters in every election and they use many tricks to do it.
Chris
Like those "WHITE ONLY" signs on the polling booths.
Libs love their contrived mythologies and false narratives.
As you well know, there are any tactics that are used to keep black
voters away from the polls. Ina number of cases the laws made for that
purpose have had to be put down by the Supreme Court.
https://www.aclu.org/blog/voting-rights/fighting-voter-suppression/alabamas-effort-suppress-black-vote-couldnt-prevent
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voter_suppression_in_the_United_States
https://scholars.org/brief/how-conservatives-rewrote-north-carolina-election-laws-discourage-voter-participation
https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/05/15/528457693/supreme-court-declines-republican-bid-to-revive-north-carolina-voter-id-law
And on and on ad infinitum.
Explain how any of these laws intended to maintain the integrity of our
elections target blacks.
Because they are written by White racists.
OHLeeRedux
2018-06-10 18:02:10 UTC
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Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by bigdog
Post by mainframetech
Post by Bud
Post by mainframetech
Post by bigdog
In another thread which had digressed to a discussion of alleged Russian
hacking of the 2016 election, one of our most prolific posters made the
"Stay tuned to MSNBC. New documents are being released that show how the
RUSSIANS tried to hack the computers. Phising.
They also wanted to modify the voter roles to take off all black voters."
Can you imagine if they had been successful and no black voters were
allowed to vote. Gee, that wouldn't have been too suspicious.
However, SOME of the black voters could have been stopped, making it
easier to fool enough people to sway the election. The GOP tries to stop
black voters in every election and they use many tricks to do it.
Chris
Like those "WHITE ONLY" signs on the polling booths.
Libs love their contrived mythologies and false narratives.
As you well know, there are any tactics that are used to keep black
voters away from the polls. Ina number of cases the laws made for that
purpose have had to be put down by the Supreme Court.
https://www.aclu.org/blog/voting-rights/fighting-voter-suppression/alabamas-effort-suppress-black-vote-couldnt-prevent
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voter_suppression_in_the_United_States
https://scholars.org/brief/how-conservatives-rewrote-north-carolina-election-laws-discourage-voter-participation
https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/05/15/528457693/supreme-court-declines-republican-bid-to-revive-north-carolina-voter-id-law
And on and on ad infinitum.
Explain how any of these laws intended to maintain the integrity of our
elections target blacks.
Because they are written by White racists.
Don't stay out in the sun too long, Anthony, or you'll melt!
mainframetech
2018-06-09 18:19:17 UTC
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Post by bigdog
Post by mainframetech
Post by Bud
Post by mainframetech
Post by bigdog
In another thread which had digressed to a discussion of alleged Russian
hacking of the 2016 election, one of our most prolific posters made the
"Stay tuned to MSNBC. New documents are being released that show how the
RUSSIANS tried to hack the computers. Phising.
They also wanted to modify the voter roles to take off all black voters."
Can you imagine if they had been successful and no black voters were
allowed to vote. Gee, that wouldn't have been too suspicious.
However, SOME of the black voters could have been stopped, making it
easier to fool enough people to sway the election. The GOP tries to stop
black voters in every election and they use many tricks to do it.
Chris
Like those "WHITE ONLY" signs on the polling booths.
Libs love their contrived mythologies and false narratives.
As you well know, there are any tactics that are used to keep black
voters away from the polls. Ina number of cases the laws made for that
purpose have had to be put down by the Supreme Court.
https://www.aclu.org/blog/voting-rights/fighting-voter-suppression/alabamas-effort-suppress-black-vote-couldnt-prevent
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voter_suppression_in_the_United_States
https://scholars.org/brief/how-conservatives-rewrote-north-carolina-election-laws-discourage-voter-participation
https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/05/15/528457693/supreme-court-declines-republican-bid-to-revive-north-carolina-voter-id-law
And on and on ad infinitum.
Explain how any of these laws intended to maintain the integrity of our
elections target blacks.
No problem.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/public-safety/appeals-court-strikes-down-north-carolinas-voter-id-law/2016/07/29/810b5844-4f72-11e6-aa14-e0c1087f7583_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.f145c7786ef5

Chris
Bud
2018-06-10 18:07:31 UTC
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Post by bigdog
Post by mainframetech
Post by Bud
Post by mainframetech
Post by bigdog
In another thread which had digressed to a discussion of alleged Russian
hacking of the 2016 election, one of our most prolific posters made the
"Stay tuned to MSNBC. New documents are being released that show how the
RUSSIANS tried to hack the computers. Phising.
They also wanted to modify the voter roles to take off all black voters."
Can you imagine if they had been successful and no black voters were
allowed to vote. Gee, that wouldn't have been too suspicious.
However, SOME of the black voters could have been stopped, making it
easier to fool enough people to sway the election. The GOP tries to stop
black voters in every election and they use many tricks to do it.
Chris
Like those "WHITE ONLY" signs on the polling booths.
Libs love their contrived mythologies and false narratives.
As you well know, there are any tactics that are used to keep black
voters away from the polls. Ina number of cases the laws made for that
purpose have had to be put down by the Supreme Court.
https://www.aclu.org/blog/voting-rights/fighting-voter-suppression/alabamas-effort-suppress-black-vote-couldnt-prevent
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voter_suppression_in_the_United_States
https://scholars.org/brief/how-conservatives-rewrote-north-carolina-election-laws-discourage-voter-participation
https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/05/15/528457693/supreme-court-declines-republican-bid-to-revive-north-carolina-voter-id-law
And on and on ad infinitum.
Explain how any of these laws intended to maintain the integrity of our
elections target blacks.
No problem.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/public-safety/appeals-court-strikes-down-north-carolinas-voter-id-law/2016/07/29/810b5844-4f72-11e6-aa14-e0c1087f7583_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.f145c7786ef5
Chris
Where was it established that black people do not have valid
identification at the same rate that while people do? Is this just an
assumption? Is this just another product of the low expectations liberals
have for black people?
Anthony Marsh
2018-06-11 14:13:03 UTC
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Post by Bud
Post by mainframetech
Post by bigdog
Post by mainframetech
Post by Bud
Post by mainframetech
Post by bigdog
In another thread which had digressed to a discussion of alleged Russian
hacking of the 2016 election, one of our most prolific posters made the
"Stay tuned to MSNBC. New documents are being released that show how the
RUSSIANS tried to hack the computers. Phising.
They also wanted to modify the voter roles to take off all black voters."
Can you imagine if they had been successful and no black voters were
allowed to vote. Gee, that wouldn't have been too suspicious.
However, SOME of the black voters could have been stopped, making it
easier to fool enough people to sway the election. The GOP tries to stop
black voters in every election and they use many tricks to do it.
Chris
Like those "WHITE ONLY" signs on the polling booths.
Libs love their contrived mythologies and false narratives.
As you well know, there are any tactics that are used to keep black
voters away from the polls. Ina number of cases the laws made for that
purpose have had to be put down by the Supreme Court.
https://www.aclu.org/blog/voting-rights/fighting-voter-suppression/alabamas-effort-suppress-black-vote-couldnt-prevent
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voter_suppression_in_the_United_States
https://scholars.org/brief/how-conservatives-rewrote-north-carolina-election-laws-discourage-voter-participation
https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/05/15/528457693/supreme-court-declines-republican-bid-to-revive-north-carolina-voter-id-law
And on and on ad infinitum.
Explain how any of these laws intended to maintain the integrity of our
elections target blacks.
No problem.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/public-safety/appeals-court-strikes-down-north-carolinas-voter-id-law/2016/07/29/810b5844-4f72-11e6-aa14-e0c1087f7583_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.f145c7786ef5
Chris
Where was it established that black people do not have valid
identification at the same rate that while people do? Is this just an
assumption? Is this just another product of the low expectations liberals
have for black people?
Court cases.
bigdog
2018-06-10 18:23:46 UTC
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Post by mainframetech
Post by bigdog
Post by mainframetech
Post by Bud
Post by mainframetech
Post by bigdog
In another thread which had digressed to a discussion of alleged Russian
hacking of the 2016 election, one of our most prolific posters made the
"Stay tuned to MSNBC. New documents are being released that show how the
RUSSIANS tried to hack the computers. Phising.
They also wanted to modify the voter roles to take off all black voters."
Can you imagine if they had been successful and no black voters were
allowed to vote. Gee, that wouldn't have been too suspicious.
However, SOME of the black voters could have been stopped, making it
easier to fool enough people to sway the election. The GOP tries to stop
black voters in every election and they use many tricks to do it.
Chris
Like those "WHITE ONLY" signs on the polling booths.
Libs love their contrived mythologies and false narratives.
As you well know, there are any tactics that are used to keep black
voters away from the polls. Ina number of cases the laws made for that
purpose have had to be put down by the Supreme Court.
https://www.aclu.org/blog/voting-rights/fighting-voter-suppression/alabamas-effort-suppress-black-vote-couldnt-prevent
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voter_suppression_in_the_United_States
https://scholars.org/brief/how-conservatives-rewrote-north-carolina-election-laws-discourage-voter-participation
https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/05/15/528457693/supreme-court-declines-republican-bid-to-revive-north-carolina-voter-id-law
And on and on ad infinitum.
Explain how any of these laws intended to maintain the integrity of our
elections target blacks.
No problem.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/public-safety/appeals-court-strikes-down-north-carolinas-voter-id-law/2016/07/29/810b5844-4f72-11e6-aa14-e0c1087f7583_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.f145c7786ef5
The story doesn't explain how these laws target blacks any more than you
did. It simply cites judges who make the same claim. What needs to be
understood is that judges are far from being above politics. In fact they
are by nature political animals who first become local judges with the
endorsement of one of the two major parties, usually as payment for having
been good servants of the party. From those ranks most appellate court
judges are named. Since federal judges get appointed for life, at any
given time there is going to be a mix of both liberal and conservative
judges and whether you win or lose at the appellate level often depends on
which you draw rather than the merits of your case. Often different
circuits will issue conflicting rulings and it is left up to SCOTUS to
have the final say.

I am not at all surprise that liberals would find judges friendly to their
cause. What I would like to see explained is why any of these voter-ID
laws are discriminatory to blacks when white, Hispanic, Asian, etc. voters
have to provide the same IDs that black voters do. Whether SCOTUS is going
to step in and have the final say on this matter remains to be seen.
Anthony Marsh
2018-06-11 14:12:52 UTC
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Post by mainframetech
Post by bigdog
Post by mainframetech
Post by Bud
Post by mainframetech
Post by bigdog
In another thread which had digressed to a discussion of alleged Russian
hacking of the 2016 election, one of our most prolific posters made the
"Stay tuned to MSNBC. New documents are being released that show how the
RUSSIANS tried to hack the computers. Phising.
They also wanted to modify the voter roles to take off all black voters."
Can you imagine if they had been successful and no black voters were
allowed to vote. Gee, that wouldn't have been too suspicious.
However, SOME of the black voters could have been stopped, making it
easier to fool enough people to sway the election. The GOP tries to stop
black voters in every election and they use many tricks to do it.
Chris
Like those "WHITE ONLY" signs on the polling booths.
Libs love their contrived mythologies and false narratives.
As you well know, there are any tactics that are used to keep black
voters away from the polls. Ina number of cases the laws made for that
purpose have had to be put down by the Supreme Court.
https://www.aclu.org/blog/voting-rights/fighting-voter-suppression/alabamas-effort-suppress-black-vote-couldnt-prevent
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voter_suppression_in_the_United_States
https://scholars.org/brief/how-conservatives-rewrote-north-carolina-election-laws-discourage-voter-participation
https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/05/15/528457693/supreme-court-declines-republican-bid-to-revive-north-carolina-voter-id-law
And on and on ad infinitum.
Explain how any of these laws intended to maintain the integrity of our
elections target blacks.
No problem.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/public-safety/appeals-court-strikes-down-north-carolinas-voter-id-law/2016/07/29/810b5844-4f72-11e6-aa14-e0c1087f7583_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.f145c7786ef5
The story doesn't explain how these laws target blacks any more than you
did. It simply cites judges who make the same claim. What needs to be
understood is that judges are far from being above politics. In fact they
are by nature political animals who first become local judges with the
endorsement of one of the two major parties, usually as payment for having
been good servants of the party. From those ranks most appellate court
judges are named. Since federal judges get appointed for life, at any
given time there is going to be a mix of both liberal and conservative
judges and whether you win or lose at the appellate level often depends on
which you draw rather than the merits of your case. Often different
circuits will issue conflicting rulings and it is left up to SCOTUS to
have the final say.
I am not at all surprise that liberals would find judges friendly to their
cause. What I would like to see explained is why any of these voter-ID
OMG. You mean judges who believe in Democracy rather than Fascism. They
are getting pretty rare now.
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laws are discriminatory to blacks when white, Hispanic, Asian, etc. voters
have to provide the same IDs that black voters do. Whether SCOTUS is going
to step in and have the final say on this matter remains to be seen.
Obviously avoiding the obvious. It easier for WHITES to get those IDs.
Put all the facilities ONLY in WHITE areas and NONE in BlACK areas.
mainframetech
2018-06-12 21:56:38 UTC
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Post by bigdog
In another thread which had digressed to a discussion of alleged Russian
hacking of the 2016 election, one of our most prolific posters made the
"Stay tuned to MSNBC. New documents are being released that show how the
RUSSIANS tried to hack the computers. Phising.
They also wanted to modify the voter roles to take off all black voters."
Can you imagine if they had been successful and no black voters were
allowed to vote. Gee, that wouldn't have been too suspicious.
However, SOME of the black voters could have been stopped, making it
easier to fool enough people to sway the election. The GOP tries to stop
black voters in every election and they use many tricks to do it.
Chris
Like those "WHITE ONLY" signs on the polling booths.
Libs love their contrived mythologies and false narratives.
As you well know, there are any tactics that are used to keep black
voters away from the polls. Ina number of cases the laws made for that
purpose have had to be put down by the Supreme Court.
https://www.aclu.org/blog/voting-rights/fighting-voter-suppression/alabamas-effort-suppress-black-vote-couldnt-prevent
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voter_suppression_in_the_United_States
https://scholars.org/brief/how-conservatives-rewrote-north-carolina-election-laws-discourage-voter-participation
https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/05/15/528457693/supreme-court-declines-republican-bid-to-revive-north-carolina-voter-id-law
And on and on ad infinitum.
Explain how any of these laws intended to maintain the integrity of our
elections target blacks.
No problem.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/public-safety/appeals-court-strikes-down-north-carolinas-voter-id-law/2016/07/29/810b5844-4f72-11e6-aa14-e0c1087f7583_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.f145c7786ef5
The story doesn't explain how these laws target blacks any more than you
did. It simply cites judges who make the same claim. What needs to be
understood is that judges are far from being above politics. In fact they
are by nature political animals who first become local judges with the
endorsement of one of the two major parties, usually as payment for having
been good servants of the party. From those ranks most appellate court
judges are named. Since federal judges get appointed for life, at any
given time there is going to be a mix of both liberal and conservative
judges and whether you win or lose at the appellate level often depends on
which you draw rather than the merits of your case. Often different
circuits will issue conflicting rulings and it is left up to SCOTUS to
have the final say.
I am not at all surprise that liberals would find judges friendly to their
cause. What I would like to see explained is why any of these voter-ID
laws are discriminatory to blacks when white, Hispanic, Asian, etc. voters
have to provide the same IDs that black voters do. Whether SCOTUS is going
to step in and have the final say on this matter remains to be seen.
As usual, you have to be educated. Here's one of the reasons the NC
law was struckdown:

"The court’s decision not to hear an appeal in the case
effectively overturned one of the most far-reaching attempts by
Republicans to counter what they contended, without evidence, was
widespread voter fraud in North Carolina. The law rejected the forms of
identification used disproportionately by blacks, including IDs issued to
government employees, students and people receiving public assistance."

From: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/15/us/politics/voter-id-laws-supreme-court-north-carolina.html

Chris
bigdog
2018-06-13 20:01:16 UTC
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In another thread which had digressed to a discussion of alleged Russian
hacking of the 2016 election, one of our most prolific posters made the
"Stay tuned to MSNBC. New documents are being released that show how the
RUSSIANS tried to hack the computers. Phising.
They also wanted to modify the voter roles to take off all black voters."
Can you imagine if they had been successful and no black voters were
allowed to vote. Gee, that wouldn't have been too suspicious.
However, SOME of the black voters could have been stopped, making it
easier to fool enough people to sway the election. The GOP tries to stop
black voters in every election and they use many tricks to do it.
Chris
Like those "WHITE ONLY" signs on the polling booths.
Libs love their contrived mythologies and false narratives.
As you well know, there are any tactics that are used to keep black
voters away from the polls. Ina number of cases the laws made for that
purpose have had to be put down by the Supreme Court.
https://www.aclu.org/blog/voting-rights/fighting-voter-suppression/alabamas-effort-suppress-black-vote-couldnt-prevent
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voter_suppression_in_the_United_States
https://scholars.org/brief/how-conservatives-rewrote-north-carolina-election-laws-discourage-voter-participation
https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/05/15/528457693/supreme-court-declines-republican-bid-to-revive-north-carolina-voter-id-law
And on and on ad infinitum.
Explain how any of these laws intended to maintain the integrity of our
elections target blacks.
No problem.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/public-safety/appeals-court-strikes-down-north-carolinas-voter-id-law/2016/07/29/810b5844-4f72-11e6-aa14-e0c1087f7583_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.f145c7786ef5
The story doesn't explain how these laws target blacks any more than you
did. It simply cites judges who make the same claim. What needs to be
understood is that judges are far from being above politics. In fact they
are by nature political animals who first become local judges with the
endorsement of one of the two major parties, usually as payment for having
been good servants of the party. From those ranks most appellate court
judges are named. Since federal judges get appointed for life, at any
given time there is going to be a mix of both liberal and conservative
judges and whether you win or lose at the appellate level often depends on
which you draw rather than the merits of your case. Often different
circuits will issue conflicting rulings and it is left up to SCOTUS to
have the final say.
I am not at all surprise that liberals would find judges friendly to their
cause. What I would like to see explained is why any of these voter-ID
laws are discriminatory to blacks when white, Hispanic, Asian, etc. voters
have to provide the same IDs that black voters do. Whether SCOTUS is going
to step in and have the final say on this matter remains to be seen.
As usual, you have to be educated. Here's one of the reasons the NC
"The court’s decision not to hear an appeal in the case
effectively overturned one of the most far-reaching attempts by
Republicans to counter what they contended, without evidence, was
widespread voter fraud in North Carolina. The law rejected the forms of
identification used disproportionately by blacks, including IDs issued to
government employees, students and people receiving public assistance."
From: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/15/us/politics/voter-id-laws-supreme-court-north-carolina.html
I never knew he High Court used the New York Times to write their legal
opinions for them.
Anthony Marsh
2018-06-14 19:13:08 UTC
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Post by bigdog
Post by mainframetech
Post by bigdog
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Post by bigdog
Post by mainframetech
Post by Bud
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Post by bigdog
In another thread which had digressed to a discussion of alleged Russian
hacking of the 2016 election, one of our most prolific posters made the
"Stay tuned to MSNBC. New documents are being released that show how the
RUSSIANS tried to hack the computers. Phising.
They also wanted to modify the voter roles to take off all black voters."
Can you imagine if they had been successful and no black voters were
allowed to vote. Gee, that wouldn't have been too suspicious.
However, SOME of the black voters could have been stopped, making it
easier to fool enough people to sway the election. The GOP tries to stop
black voters in every election and they use many tricks to do it.
Chris
Like those "WHITE ONLY" signs on the polling booths.
Libs love their contrived mythologies and false narratives.
As you well know, there are any tactics that are used to keep black
voters away from the polls. Ina number of cases the laws made for that
purpose have had to be put down by the Supreme Court.
https://www.aclu.org/blog/voting-rights/fighting-voter-suppression/alabamas-effort-suppress-black-vote-couldnt-prevent
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voter_suppression_in_the_United_States
https://scholars.org/brief/how-conservatives-rewrote-north-carolina-election-laws-discourage-voter-participation
https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/05/15/528457693/supreme-court-declines-republican-bid-to-revive-north-carolina-voter-id-law
And on and on ad infinitum.
Explain how any of these laws intended to maintain the integrity of our
elections target blacks.
No problem.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/public-safety/appeals-court-strikes-down-north-carolinas-voter-id-law/2016/07/29/810b5844-4f72-11e6-aa14-e0c1087f7583_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.f145c7786ef5
The story doesn't explain how these laws target blacks any more than you
did. It simply cites judges who make the same claim. What needs to be
understood is that judges are far from being above politics. In fact they
are by nature political animals who first become local judges with the
endorsement of one of the two major parties, usually as payment for having
been good servants of the party. From those ranks most appellate court
judges are named. Since federal judges get appointed for life, at any
given time there is going to be a mix of both liberal and conservative
judges and whether you win or lose at the appellate level often depends on
which you draw rather than the merits of your case. Often different
circuits will issue conflicting rulings and it is left up to SCOTUS to
have the final say.
I am not at all surprise that liberals would find judges friendly to their
cause. What I would like to see explained is why any of these voter-ID
laws are discriminatory to blacks when white, Hispanic, Asian, etc. voters
have to provide the same IDs that black voters do. Whether SCOTUS is going
to step in and have the final say on this matter remains to be seen.
As usual, you have to be educated. Here's one of the reasons the NC
"The court???s decision not to hear an appeal in the case
effectively overturned one of the most far-reaching attempts by
Republicans to counter what they contended, without evidence, was
widespread voter fraud in North Carolina. The law rejected the forms of
identification used disproportionately by blacks, including IDs issued to
government employees, students and people receiving public assistance."
From: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/15/us/politics/voter-id-laws-supreme-court-north-carolina.html
I never knew he High Court used the New York Times to write their legal
opinions for them.
Stop being silly. The NYT often reports court decisions.
mainframetech
2018-06-14 19:14:02 UTC
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Post by mainframetech
Post by bigdog
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Post by bigdog
Post by mainframetech
Post by Bud
Post by mainframetech
Post by bigdog
In another thread which had digressed to a discussion of alleged Russian
hacking of the 2016 election, one of our most prolific posters made the
"Stay tuned to MSNBC. New documents are being released that show how the
RUSSIANS tried to hack the computers. Phising.
They also wanted to modify the voter roles to take off all black voters."
Can you imagine if they had been successful and no black voters were
allowed to vote. Gee, that wouldn't have been too suspicious.
However, SOME of the black voters could have been stopped, making it
easier to fool enough people to sway the election. The GOP tries to stop
black voters in every election and they use many tricks to do it.
Chris
Like those "WHITE ONLY" signs on the polling booths.
Libs love their contrived mythologies and false narratives.
As you well know, there are any tactics that are used to keep black
voters away from the polls. Ina number of cases the laws made for that
purpose have had to be put down by the Supreme Court.
https://www.aclu.org/blog/voting-rights/fighting-voter-suppression/alabamas-effort-suppress-black-vote-couldnt-prevent
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voter_suppression_in_the_United_States
https://scholars.org/brief/how-conservatives-rewrote-north-carolina-election-laws-discourage-voter-participation
https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/05/15/528457693/supreme-court-declines-republican-bid-to-revive-north-carolina-voter-id-law
And on and on ad infinitum.
Explain how any of these laws intended to maintain the integrity of our
elections target blacks.
No problem.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/public-safety/appeals-court-strikes-down-north-carolinas-voter-id-law/2016/07/29/810b5844-4f72-11e6-aa14-e0c1087f7583_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.f145c7786ef5
The story doesn't explain how these laws target blacks any more than you
did. It simply cites judges who make the same claim. What needs to be
understood is that judges are far from being above politics. In fact they
are by nature political animals who first become local judges with the
endorsement of one of the two major parties, usually as payment for having
been good servants of the party. From those ranks most appellate court
judges are named. Since federal judges get appointed for life, at any
given time there is going to be a mix of both liberal and conservative
judges and whether you win or lose at the appellate level often depends on
which you draw rather than the merits of your case. Often different
circuits will issue conflicting rulings and it is left up to SCOTUS to
have the final say.
I am not at all surprise that liberals would find judges friendly to their
cause. What I would like to see explained is why any of these voter-ID
laws are discriminatory to blacks when white, Hispanic, Asian, etc. voters
have to provide the same IDs that black voters do. Whether SCOTUS is going
to step in and have the final say on this matter remains to be seen.
As usual, you have to be educated. Here's one of the reasons the NC
"The court’s decision not to hear an appeal in the case
effectively overturned one of the most far-reaching attempts by
Republicans to counter what they contended, without evidence, was
widespread voter fraud in North Carolina. The law rejected the forms of
identification used disproportionately by blacks, including IDs issued to
government employees, students and people receiving public assistance."
From: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/15/us/politics/voter-id-laws-supreme-court-north-carolina.html
I never knew he High Court used the New York Times to write their legal
opinions for them.
WHOA! You're going off into fantasyland again! The NY Times reported
on what the court decided. If you don't believe it because you believe
someone else who should be nameless that purveys 'fake news' himself, then
you can check the rulings of the Supreme Court. They're on the 'net
somewhere on their own website.

Chris
bigdog
2018-06-15 21:09:41 UTC
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Post by bigdog
Post by mainframetech
Post by Bud
Post by mainframetech
Post by bigdog
In another thread which had digressed to a discussion of alleged Russian
hacking of the 2016 election, one of our most prolific posters made the
"Stay tuned to MSNBC. New documents are being released that show how the
RUSSIANS tried to hack the computers. Phising.
They also wanted to modify the voter roles to take off all black voters."
Can you imagine if they had been successful and no black voters were
allowed to vote. Gee, that wouldn't have been too suspicious.
However, SOME of the black voters could have been stopped, making it
easier to fool enough people to sway the election. The GOP tries to stop
black voters in every election and they use many tricks to do it.
Chris
Like those "WHITE ONLY" signs on the polling booths.
Libs love their contrived mythologies and false narratives.
As you well know, there are any tactics that are used to keep black
voters away from the polls. Ina number of cases the laws made for that
purpose have had to be put down by the Supreme Court.
https://www.aclu.org/blog/voting-rights/fighting-voter-suppression/alabamas-effort-suppress-black-vote-couldnt-prevent
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voter_suppression_in_the_United_States
https://scholars.org/brief/how-conservatives-rewrote-north-carolina-election-laws-discourage-voter-participation
https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/05/15/528457693/supreme-court-declines-republican-bid-to-revive-north-carolina-voter-id-law
And on and on ad infinitum.
Explain how any of these laws intended to maintain the integrity of our
elections target blacks.
No problem.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/public-safety/appeals-court-strikes-down-north-carolinas-voter-id-law/2016/07/29/810b5844-4f72-11e6-aa14-e0c1087f7583_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.f145c7786ef5
The story doesn't explain how these laws target blacks any more than you
did. It simply cites judges who make the same claim. What needs to be
understood is that judges are far from being above politics. In fact they
are by nature political animals who first become local judges with the
endorsement of one of the two major parties, usually as payment for having
been good servants of the party. From those ranks most appellate court
judges are named. Since federal judges get appointed for life, at any
given time there is going to be a mix of both liberal and conservative
judges and whether you win or lose at the appellate level often depends on
which you draw rather than the merits of your case. Often different
circuits will issue conflicting rulings and it is left up to SCOTUS to
have the final say.
I am not at all surprise that liberals would find judges friendly to their
cause. What I would like to see explained is why any of these voter-ID
laws are discriminatory to blacks when white, Hispanic, Asian, etc. voters
have to provide the same IDs that black voters do. Whether SCOTUS is going
to step in and have the final say on this matter remains to be seen.
As usual, you have to be educated. Here's one of the reasons the NC
"The court’s decision not to hear an appeal in the case
effectively overturned one of the most far-reaching attempts by
Republicans to counter what they contended, without evidence, was
widespread voter fraud in North Carolina. The law rejected the forms of
identification used disproportionately by blacks, including IDs issued to
government employees, students and people receiving public assistance."
From: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/15/us/politics/voter-id-laws-supreme-court-north-carolina.html
I never knew he High Court used the New York Times to write their legal
opinions for them.
WHOA! You're going off into fantasyland again! The NY Times reported
on what the court decided. If you don't believe it because you believe
someone else who should be nameless that purveys 'fake news' himself, then
you can check the rulings of the Supreme Court. They're on the 'net
somewhere on their own website.
Why did you quote the NYT instead of the actual SCOTUS opinion.
Anthony Marsh
2018-06-14 00:54:38 UTC
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Post by mainframetech
Post by bigdog
Post by mainframetech
Post by bigdog
Post by mainframetech
Post by Bud
Post by mainframetech
Post by bigdog
In another thread which had digressed to a discussion of alleged Russian
hacking of the 2016 election, one of our most prolific posters made the
"Stay tuned to MSNBC. New documents are being released that show how the
RUSSIANS tried to hack the computers. Phising.
They also wanted to modify the voter roles to take off all black voters."
Can you imagine if they had been successful and no black voters were
allowed to vote. Gee, that wouldn't have been too suspicious.
However, SOME of the black voters could have been stopped, making it
easier to fool enough people to sway the election. The GOP tries to stop
black voters in every election and they use many tricks to do it.
Chris
Like those "WHITE ONLY" signs on the polling booths.
Libs love their contrived mythologies and false narratives.
As you well know, there are any tactics that are used to keep black
voters away from the polls. Ina number of cases the laws made for that
purpose have had to be put down by the Supreme Court.
https://www.aclu.org/blog/voting-rights/fighting-voter-suppression/alabamas-effort-suppress-black-vote-couldnt-prevent
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voter_suppression_in_the_United_States
https://scholars.org/brief/how-conservatives-rewrote-north-carolina-election-laws-discourage-voter-participation
https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/05/15/528457693/supreme-court-declines-republican-bid-to-revive-north-carolina-voter-id-law
And on and on ad infinitum.
Explain how any of these laws intended to maintain the integrity of our
elections target blacks.
No problem.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/public-safety/appeals-court-strikes-down-north-carolinas-voter-id-law/2016/07/29/810b5844-4f72-11e6-aa14-e0c1087f7583_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.f145c7786ef5
The story doesn't explain how these laws target blacks any more than you
did. It simply cites judges who make the same claim. What needs to be
understood is that judges are far from being above politics. In fact they
are by nature political animals who first become local judges with the
endorsement of one of the two major parties, usually as payment for having
been good servants of the party. From those ranks most appellate court
judges are named. Since federal judges get appointed for life, at any
given time there is going to be a mix of both liberal and conservative
judges and whether you win or lose at the appellate level often depends on
which you draw rather than the merits of your case. Often different
circuits will issue conflicting rulings and it is left up to SCOTUS to
have the final say.
I am not at all surprise that liberals would find judges friendly to their
cause. What I would like to see explained is why any of these voter-ID
laws are discriminatory to blacks when white, Hispanic, Asian, etc. voters
have to provide the same IDs that black voters do. Whether SCOTUS is going
to step in and have the final say on this matter remains to be seen.
As usual, you have to be educated. Here's one of the reasons the NC
"The court???s decision not to hear an appeal in the case
effectively overturned one of the most far-reaching attempts by
Republicans to counter what they contended, without evidence, was
widespread voter fraud in North Carolina. The law rejected the forms of
identification used disproportionately by blacks, including IDs issued to
government employees, students and people receiving public assistance."
From: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/15/us/politics/voter-id-laws-supreme-court-north-carolina.html
Chris
They will deny everything always.
Anthony Marsh
2018-06-10 18:29:20 UTC
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Post by mainframetech
Post by bigdog
Post by mainframetech
Post by Bud
Post by mainframetech
Post by bigdog
In another thread which had digressed to a discussion of alleged Russian
hacking of the 2016 election, one of our most prolific posters made the
"Stay tuned to MSNBC. New documents are being released that show how the
RUSSIANS tried to hack the computers. Phising.
They also wanted to modify the voter roles to take off all black voters."
Can you imagine if they had been successful and no black voters were
allowed to vote. Gee, that wouldn't have been too suspicious.
However, SOME of the black voters could have been stopped, making it
easier to fool enough people to sway the election. The GOP tries to stop
black voters in every election and they use many tricks to do it.
Chris
Like those "WHITE ONLY" signs on the polling booths.
Libs love their contrived mythologies and false narratives.
As you well know, there are any tactics that are used to keep black
voters away from the polls. Ina number of cases the laws made for that
purpose have had to be put down by the Supreme Court.
https://www.aclu.org/blog/voting-rights/fighting-voter-suppression/alabamas-effort-suppress-black-vote-couldnt-prevent
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voter_suppression_in_the_United_States
https://scholars.org/brief/how-conservatives-rewrote-north-carolina-election-laws-discourage-voter-participation
https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/05/15/528457693/supreme-court-declines-republican-bid-to-revive-north-carolina-voter-id-law
And on and on ad infinitum.
Explain how any of these laws intended to maintain the integrity of our
elections target blacks.
No problem.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/public-safety/appeals-court-strikes-down-north-carolinas-voter-id-law/2016/07/29/810b5844-4f72-11e6-aa14-e0c1087f7583_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.f145c7786ef5
Chris
Nice, but the Nazis refuse to read the Washington Post so I'll have to
cut and paste it for them:


Courts & Law
Appeals court strikes down North Carolina???s voter-ID law

A pile of government pamphlets explaining North Carolina's controversial
voting law sits on table at a polling station in Charlotte in March.
(Chris Keane/Reuters)
By Robert Barnes and Ann E. Marimow July 29, 2016 Email the author

Voting rights activists scored legal victories in key presidential
election states Friday, the most important being a federal appeals court
ruling that North Carolina???s Republican-led legislature enacted new
voting restrictions in 2013 to intentionally blunt the growing clout of
African American voters.

The unanimous decision by a three-judge panel of the U.S. Court of
Appeals for the 4th Circuit was an overwhelming victory for the Justice
Department and civil rights groups. Election law experts consider North
Carolina???s voter law one of the nation???s most far-reaching.

In Wisconsin, where one federal judge already had eased restrictions on
voter-ID requirements, a second judge found that additional elements of
the law passed by the legislature and signed by Gov. Scott Walker
(R-Wis.) were unconstitutional.

U.S. District Judge James D. Peterson suggested he would strike the
entire law if he were not bound by the Supreme Court???s decision that
states may use properly written voter-ID laws to guard against voter fraud.

???The evidence in this case casts doubt on the notion that voter ID laws
foster integrity and confidence,??? Peterson wrote. ???The Wisconsin
experience demonstrates that a preoccupation with mostly phantom
election fraud leads to real incidents of disenfranchisement, which
undermine rather than enhance confidence in elections, particularly in
minority communities. To put it bluntly, Wisconsin???s strict version of
voter ID law is a cure worse than the disease.??? The state will appeal
both rulings.

This year more states than ever will require potential voters to show
photo ID in order to vote in the election. Here's why this is so
controversial. (Monica Akhtar/The Washington Post)

In the North Carolina case, the 4th Circuit panel agreed with
allegations that North Carolina???s omnibus bill selectively chose
voter-ID requirements, reduced the number of early-voting days and
changed registration procedures in ways meant to harm blacks, who
overwhelmingly vote for the Democratic Party.

???The new provisions target African Americans with almost surgical
precision??? and ???impose cures for problems that did not exist,??? Judge
Diana Gribbon Motz wrote for the panel. ???Thus the asserted
justifications cannot and do not conceal the State???s true motivation.???

[How North Carolina became the epicenter of the voting rights battle]

The rulings ??? along with that of a state court that halted an attempt in
Kansas to require proof of citizenship to register ??? marked important
wins for opponents of restrictive voting laws that are being challenged
throughout the country ahead of November???s presidential election. Put
together, the decisions suggest a growing judicial suspicion of the wave
of voting-restriction legislation passed in recent years by
??Republican-led legislatures that said it was necessary to combat voter
fraud.

The decisions are likely to prompt the states to ask the Supreme Court
for emergency action. But it is far from clear whether the eight
justices, evenly divided between conservative and liberal, would get
involved. The proximity of an election is often reason for justices to
let an appeals court ruling stand.

Federal courts have been examining what are popular and, to some,
seemingly common-sense laws ??? requiring photo ID, for instance ??? to see
whether they favor one group over another.

In North Carolina, for instance, the judges at oral arguments noted that
government-issued driver???s licenses are an acceptable form of
identification but that ??government-issued public assistance cards ???
used disproportionately by minorities in the state ??? are not.

Republican leaders in North Carolina vowed an appeal to the high court.
They issued a fiery statement denouncing the ruling ???by three partisan
Democrats??? and suggested it was intended to help the Democratic
candidates for president and governor.

North Carolina is considered a key swing state, and African American
voters have played an increasing role in making it competitive.

???We can only wonder if the intent is to reopen the door for voter fraud,
potentially allowing fellow Democrat politicians like Hillary Clinton
and Roy Cooper to steal the election,??? said Senate Leader Phil Berger
and House Speaker Tim Moore.

[The ???smoking gun??? proving N.C. Republicans tried to disenfranchise blacks]

Motz, 73, was nominated by President Bill Clinton. The other judges on
the panel were Henry Floyd, nominated to the federal bench by President
George W. Bush and elevated to the 4th Circuit by President Obama, and
James A. Wynn Jr., a former North Carolina Supreme Court justice
nominated to the federal circuit by Obama.

Election law experts are skeptical there is evidence of widespread
cheating at the polls in this country. In particular, they find that
voting fraud is most often associated with absentee balloting, rather
than the kind of impersonation voting that ID laws are meant to combat.

Speaking to reporters in Baton Rouge on Friday, U.S. Attorney General
Loretta E. Lynch praised the court???s ruling and said the Justice
Department will continue to challenge restrictive voting laws. ???The
ability of Americans to have a voice in the direction of their country ???
to have a fair and free opportunity to help write the story of this
nation ??? is fundamental to who we are and who we aspire to be,??? Lynch said.

Democrats and civil rights groups have also filed suits in Ohio and Arizona.

The North Carolina decision by the Richmond-based court on Friday
reverses a 485-page ruling by District Judge Thomas D. Schroeder that
upheld the voting measures passed in 2013.

North Carolina lawmakers overhauled the state???s election law soon after
the Supreme Court???s decision in Shelby County v. Holder, which freed
certain states with a history of discrimination from a Voting Rights Act
requirement that they receive federal approval before changing voting
rules. North Carolina was one of the states.

Legislators quickly eliminated same-day voter registration, rolled back
of a week of early voting and put an end to out-of-precinct voting. The
appeals court???s ruling reinstates those provisions that civil rights
groups, led by the state NAACP, said were used disproportionately by
African American voters.

Motz wrote that Schroeder???s comprehensive examination of the
legislature???s action ???seems to have missed the forest in carefully
surveying the many trees. This failure of perspective led the court to
ignore critical facts bearing on legislative intent, including the
inextricable link between race and politics in North Carolina.???

The panel seemed to say it found the equivalent of a smoking gun.
???Before enacting that law, the legislature requested data on the use, by
race, of a number of voting practices,??? Motz wrote. ???Upon receipt of the
race data, the General Assembly enacted legislation that restricted
voting and registration in five different ways, all of which
disproportionately affected African Americans.???

The panel found the law was passed with racially discriminatory intent,
violating the Constitution and the Voting Rights Act. It said that
???intentionally targeting a particular race???s access to the franchise
because its members vote for a particular party, in a predictable
manner, constitutes discriminatory purpose.???

Motz added: ???Our conclusion does not mean, and we do not suggest, that
any member of the General Assembly harbored racial hatred or animosity
toward any minority group.???

But she said the ???totality of the circumstances ??? North Carolina???s
history of voting discrimination; the surge in African American voting;
the legislature???s knowledge that African Americans voting translated
into support for one party; and the swift elimination of the tools
African Americans had used to vote and imposition of a new barrier at
the first opportunity to do so ??? cumulatively and unmistakably reveal
that the General Assembly used [the law] to entrench itself.???

???Even if done for partisan ends, that constituted racial
discrimination,??? Motz wrote.

Such a finding could have meant that the judges could order North
Carolina back under federal supervision. But the panel declined to take
that step, saying it was enough to block the parts of the law it found
offensive.

[A recap of oral arguments before the 4th Circuit]

North Carolina Gov. Pat McCrory (R) issue a short statement that, like
that of the legislative leaders, said the decision would be appealed,
and he repeated claims about the partisan cast of the panel. ???Three
Democratic judges are undermining the integrity of our elections while
also maligning our state,??? said McCrory, who is in a tight reelection
battle with Cooper, the state???s Democratic attorney general.

Voting rights advocates applauded the ruling and said it sent a strong
message to legislatures throughout the country.

North Carolina was one of 17 states set to have more-restrictive voting
laws in place for this presidential election than in 2012. Laws in
several states, including Wisconsin, Texas and Virginia, also are being
challenged in court.

[Appeals court says Texas voter-ID law discriminates against minorities]

In Wisconsin, a federal judge previously ruled that voters who lack the
specific kind of identification the state requires be allowed to vote in
November by signing an affidavit as to their identity. In a separate
lawsuit, groups asked Peterson to rule on other aspects of the law.

He struck part of the law restricting hours for in-person voting before
the election, saying it intentionally discriminates. ???The legislature???s
immediate goal was to achieve a partisan objective, but the means of
achieving that objective was to suppress the reliably Democratic vote of
Milwaukee???s African Americans,??? Peterson concluded.

In Texas, the entire U.S. Court of Appeals for the 5th Circuit ruled
that Texas???s strict voter-ID law discriminates against minority voters,
and it ordered a lower court to come up with a fix for the law in time
for the November elections.

The appeals court, one of the most conservative in the country, declined
to strike down the law completely but said provisions must be made to
allow those who lack the specific ID the law requires to be able to cast
a vote. The state has decided not to appeal that ruling to the Supreme
Court, and a district judge is to rule soon on what accommodations must
be made.
Comments
Bud
2018-06-08 22:23:13 UTC
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Post by mainframetech
Post by Bud
Post by mainframetech
Post by bigdog
In another thread which had digressed to a discussion of alleged Russian
hacking of the 2016 election, one of our most prolific posters made the
"Stay tuned to MSNBC. New documents are being released that show how the
RUSSIANS tried to hack the computers. Phising.
They also wanted to modify the voter roles to take off all black voters."
Can you imagine if they had been successful and no black voters were
allowed to vote. Gee, that wouldn't have been too suspicious.
However, SOME of the black voters could have been stopped, making it
easier to fool enough people to sway the election. The GOP tries to stop
black voters in every election and they use many tricks to do it.
Chris
Like those "WHITE ONLY" signs on the polling booths.
Libs love their contrived mythologies and false narratives.
As you well know, there are any tactics that are used to keep black
voters away from the polls. Ina number of cases the laws made for that
purpose have had to be put down by the Supreme Court.
https://www.aclu.org/blog/voting-rights/fighting-voter-suppression/alabamas-effort-suppress-black-vote-couldnt-prevent
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voter_suppression_in_the_United_States
https://scholars.org/brief/how-conservatives-rewrote-north-carolina-election-laws-discourage-voter-participation
https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/05/15/528457693/supreme-court-declines-republican-bid-to-revive-north-carolina-voter-id-law
And on and on ad infinitum.
Chris
So, hundreds of thousands of blacks who got out to vote for Obama were
somehow prevented by the GOP from getting out and voting for Hillary?
bigdog
2018-06-09 18:22:33 UTC
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Post by Bud
Post by mainframetech
Post by Bud
Post by mainframetech
Post by bigdog
In another thread which had digressed to a discussion of alleged Russian
hacking of the 2016 election, one of our most prolific posters made the
"Stay tuned to MSNBC. New documents are being released that show how the
RUSSIANS tried to hack the computers. Phising.
They also wanted to modify the voter roles to take off all black voters."
Can you imagine if they had been successful and no black voters were
allowed to vote. Gee, that wouldn't have been too suspicious.
However, SOME of the black voters could have been stopped, making it
easier to fool enough people to sway the election. The GOP tries to stop
black voters in every election and they use many tricks to do it.
Chris
Like those "WHITE ONLY" signs on the polling booths.
Libs love their contrived mythologies and false narratives.
As you well know, there are any tactics that are used to keep black
voters away from the polls. Ina number of cases the laws made for that
purpose have had to be put down by the Supreme Court.
https://www.aclu.org/blog/voting-rights/fighting-voter-suppression/alabamas-effort-suppress-black-vote-couldnt-prevent
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voter_suppression_in_the_United_States
https://scholars.org/brief/how-conservatives-rewrote-north-carolina-election-laws-discourage-voter-participation
https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/05/15/528457693/supreme-court-declines-republican-bid-to-revive-north-carolina-voter-id-law
And on and on ad infinitum.
Chris
So, hundreds of thousands of blacks who got out to vote for Obama were
somehow prevented by the GOP from getting out and voting for Hillary?
Apparently lots of blacks who voter for Obama were able to vote for Trump
as well. Those must have been the racist blacks.
Anthony Marsh
2018-06-10 18:09:38 UTC
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Post by bigdog
Post by Bud
Post by mainframetech
Post by Bud
Post by mainframetech
Post by bigdog
In another thread which had digressed to a discussion of alleged Russian
hacking of the 2016 election, one of our most prolific posters made the
"Stay tuned to MSNBC. New documents are being released that show how the
RUSSIANS tried to hack the computers. Phising.
They also wanted to modify the voter roles to take off all black voters."
Can you imagine if they had been successful and no black voters were
allowed to vote. Gee, that wouldn't have been too suspicious.
However, SOME of the black voters could have been stopped, making it
easier to fool enough people to sway the election. The GOP tries to stop
black voters in every election and they use many tricks to do it.
Chris
Like those "WHITE ONLY" signs on the polling booths.
Libs love their contrived mythologies and false narratives.
As you well know, there are any tactics that are used to keep black
voters away from the polls. Ina number of cases the laws made for that
purpose have had to be put down by the Supreme Court.
https://www.aclu.org/blog/voting-rights/fighting-voter-suppression/alabamas-effort-suppress-black-vote-couldnt-prevent
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voter_suppression_in_the_United_States
https://scholars.org/brief/how-conservatives-rewrote-north-carolina-election-laws-discourage-voter-participation
https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/05/15/528457693/supreme-court-declines-republican-bid-to-revive-north-carolina-voter-id-law
And on and on ad infinitum.
Chris
So, hundreds of thousands of blacks who got out to vote for Obama were
somehow prevented by the GOP from getting out and voting for Hillary?
Apparently lots of blacks who voter for Obama were able to vote for Trump
as well. Those must have been the racist blacks.
Not sure what your grammar means, but do you even understand that 99% of
blacks voted for Obama and only 1% voted for Trump? I guess you call 1%
lots. Like Trump saying that many people say he should get the Nobel
Peace Prize.
John McAdams
2018-06-10 18:17:58 UTC
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On 10 Jun 2018 14:09:38 -0400, Anthony Marsh
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by bigdog
Post by Bud
So, hundreds of thousands of blacks who got out to vote for Obama were
somehow prevented by the GOP from getting out and voting for Hillary?
Blacks were not enthusiastic about Hillary.

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/21/us/many-in-milwaukee-neighborhood-didnt-vote-and-dont-regret-it.html
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by bigdog
Apparently lots of blacks who voter for Obama were able to vote for Trump
as well. Those must have been the racist blacks.
Not sure what your grammar means, but do you even understand that 99% of
blacks voted for Obama and only 1% voted for Trump? I guess you call 1%
lots. Like Trump saying that many people say he should get the Nobel
Peace Prize.
Quit making stuff up, Tony.

In 2016, 89% of blacks voted for Hillary, and 8% for Trump.

https://www.cnn.com/election/2016/results/exit-polls

In 2012, 93% of blacks voted for Obama, and 6% for Romney.

http://www.cnn.com/election/2012/results/race/president/

The difference, of course was because a black guy was running in 2012.

The 2016 vote was typical of the black vote in presidential elections
where a black is not running.

.John
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http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/home.htm
bigdog
2018-06-11 14:21:41 UTC
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Post by John McAdams
On 10 Jun 2018 14:09:38 -0400, Anthony Marsh
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by bigdog
Post by Bud
So, hundreds of thousands of blacks who got out to vote for Obama were
somehow prevented by the GOP from getting out and voting for Hillary?
Blacks were not enthusiastic about Hillary.
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/21/us/many-in-milwaukee-neighborhood-didnt-vote-and-dont-regret-it.html
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by bigdog
Apparently lots of blacks who voter for Obama were able to vote for Trump
as well. Those must have been the racist blacks.
Not sure what your grammar means, but do you even understand that 99% of
blacks voted for Obama and only 1% voted for Trump? I guess you call 1%
lots. Like Trump saying that many people say he should get the Nobel
Peace Prize.
Quit making stuff up, Tony.
In 2016, 89% of blacks voted for Hillary, and 8% for Trump.
It would be hard to characterize that 8% as racists. There were lots of
voters, black and white, who voted for Obama in 2012 and Trump in 2016.
Post by John McAdams
https://www.cnn.com/election/2016/results/exit-polls
In 2012, 93% of blacks voted for Obama, and 6% for Romney.
http://www.cnn.com/election/2012/results/race/president/
The difference, of course was because a black guy was running in 2012.
The 2016 vote was typical of the black vote in presidential elections
where a black is not running.
This of course was one of the key components. Percentage wise Hillary
dropped off slightly from Obama's numbers, as expected, but more damaging
was the drop in black turnout, also to be expected. Turnout is the wild
card in polling. It's a lot easier to predict the percentage a candidate
will get from a demographic group than it is to predict at what rate that
group will turnout. Pre-election polling in 2016 oversampled blacks and
undersampled white blue collar and rural voters who turned out to be
Trump's ace in the hole. There wasn't a huge difference between
pre-election polling and the actual vote count but it was enough to make
the difference in the three blue wall states where Trump scored major
upset wins.
Anthony Marsh
2018-06-12 12:34:00 UTC
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Post by bigdog
Post by John McAdams
On 10 Jun 2018 14:09:38 -0400, Anthony Marsh
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by bigdog
Post by Bud
So, hundreds of thousands of blacks who got out to vote for Obama were
somehow prevented by the GOP from getting out and voting for Hillary?
Blacks were not enthusiastic about Hillary.
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/21/us/many-in-milwaukee-neighborhood-didnt-vote-and-dont-regret-it.html
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by bigdog
Apparently lots of blacks who voter for Obama were able to vote for Trump
as well. Those must have been the racist blacks.
Not sure what your grammar means, but do you even understand that 99% of
blacks voted for Obama and only 1% voted for Trump? I guess you call 1%
lots. Like Trump saying that many people say he should get the Nobel
Peace Prize.
Quit making stuff up, Tony.
In 2016, 89% of blacks voted for Hillary, and 8% for Trump.
It would be hard to characterize that 8% as racists. There were lots of
voters, black and white, who voted for Obama in 2012 and Trump in 2016.
At least 8% of the voters are racists. Like those guys marching with the
Tiki Torches. Hurry, Hurry, I just saw them on sale at Ocean State Job
Lot. 50% off.
Post by bigdog
Post by John McAdams
https://www.cnn.com/election/2016/results/exit-polls
In 2012, 93% of blacks voted for Obama, and 6% for Romney.
http://www.cnn.com/election/2012/results/race/president/
The difference, of course was because a black guy was running in 2012.
The 2016 vote was typical of the black vote in presidential elections
where a black is not running.
This of course was one of the key components. Percentage wise Hillary
dropped off slightly from Obama's numbers, as expected, but more damaging
was the drop in black turnout, also to be expected. Turnout is the wild
Due to Republican voter suppression efforts.
Post by bigdog
card in polling. It's a lot easier to predict the percentage a candidate
will get from a demographic group than it is to predict at what rate that
group will turnout. Pre-election polling in 2016 oversampled blacks and
undersampled white blue collar and rural voters who turned out to be
Trump's ace in the hole. There wasn't a huge difference between
pre-election polling and the actual vote count but it was enough to make
the difference in the three blue wall states where Trump scored major
upset wins.
There was a campaign to increase racist voter turnout.
Endorsements by the KKK and other hate groups.
Bud
2018-06-13 03:03:45 UTC
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Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by bigdog
Post by John McAdams
On 10 Jun 2018 14:09:38 -0400, Anthony Marsh
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by bigdog
Post by Bud
So, hundreds of thousands of blacks who got out to vote for Obama were
somehow prevented by the GOP from getting out and voting for Hillary?
Blacks were not enthusiastic about Hillary.
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/21/us/many-in-milwaukee-neighborhood-didnt-vote-and-dont-regret-it.html
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by bigdog
Apparently lots of blacks who voter for Obama were able to vote for Trump
as well. Those must have been the racist blacks.
Not sure what your grammar means, but do you even understand that 99% of
blacks voted for Obama and only 1% voted for Trump? I guess you call 1%
lots. Like Trump saying that many people say he should get the Nobel
Peace Prize.
Quit making stuff up, Tony.
In 2016, 89% of blacks voted for Hillary, and 8% for Trump.
It would be hard to characterize that 8% as racists. There were lots of
voters, black and white, who voted for Obama in 2012 and Trump in 2016.
At least 8% of the voters are racists.
More than that among the black voters. They had no problem getting out
to vote for a fellow black but when Hillary ran they said "Fuck that white
bitch".
Post by Anthony Marsh
Like those guys marching with the
Tiki Torches. Hurry, Hurry, I just saw them on sale at Ocean State Job
Lot. 50% off.
Post by bigdog
Post by John McAdams
https://www.cnn.com/election/2016/results/exit-polls
In 2012, 93% of blacks voted for Obama, and 6% for Romney.
http://www.cnn.com/election/2012/results/race/president/
The difference, of course was because a black guy was running in 2012.
The 2016 vote was typical of the black vote in presidential elections
where a black is not running.
This of course was one of the key components. Percentage wise Hillary
dropped off slightly from Obama's numbers, as expected, but more damaging
was the drop in black turnout, also to be expected. Turnout is the wild
Due to Republican voter suppression efforts.
Due to black racism.
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by bigdog
card in polling. It's a lot easier to predict the percentage a candidate
will get from a demographic group than it is to predict at what rate that
group will turnout. Pre-election polling in 2016 oversampled blacks and
undersampled white blue collar and rural voters who turned out to be
Trump's ace in the hole. There wasn't a huge difference between
pre-election polling and the actual vote count but it was enough to make
the difference in the three blue wall states where Trump scored major
upset wins.
There was a campaign to increase racist voter turnout.
Yeah, the media campaign to make black thugs into heroes.
Post by Anthony Marsh
Endorsements by the KKK and other hate groups.
All twelve Klan members voted for Trump, big deal. The real key voting
block is people getting free money from the government. Hard to get those
lazy bastards out to the polls, though.
mainframetech
2018-06-11 01:56:22 UTC
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Post by bigdog
Post by Bud
Post by mainframetech
Post by Bud
Post by mainframetech
Post by bigdog
In another thread which had digressed to a discussion of alleged Russian
hacking of the 2016 election, one of our most prolific posters made the
"Stay tuned to MSNBC. New documents are being released that show how the
RUSSIANS tried to hack the computers. Phising.
They also wanted to modify the voter roles to take off all black voters."
Can you imagine if they had been successful and no black voters were
allowed to vote. Gee, that wouldn't have been too suspicious.
However, SOME of the black voters could have been stopped, making it
easier to fool enough people to sway the election. The GOP tries to stop
black voters in every election and they use many tricks to do it.
Chris
Like those "WHITE ONLY" signs on the polling booths.
Libs love their contrived mythologies and false narratives.
As you well know, there are any tactics that are used to keep black
voters away from the polls. Ina number of cases the laws made for that
purpose have had to be put down by the Supreme Court.
https://www.aclu.org/blog/voting-rights/fighting-voter-suppression/alabamas-effort-suppress-black-vote-couldnt-prevent
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voter_suppression_in_the_United_States
https://scholars.org/brief/how-conservatives-rewrote-north-carolina-election-laws-discourage-voter-participation
https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/05/15/528457693/supreme-court-declines-republican-bid-to-revive-north-carolina-voter-id-law
And on and on ad infinitum.
Chris
So, hundreds of thousands of blacks who got out to vote for Obama were
somehow prevented by the GOP from getting out and voting for Hillary?
Apparently lots of blacks who voter for Obama were able to vote for Trump
as well. Those must have been the racist blacks.
There are plenty of blacks that hate whites. Obvious why given the
history.

Chris
John McAdams
2018-06-11 01:58:03 UTC
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Post by mainframetech
Post by bigdog
Apparently lots of blacks who voter for Obama were able to vote for Trump
as well. Those must have been the racist blacks.
There are plenty of blacks that hate whites. Obvious why given the
history.
Sure, and that's just a dandy way for blacks to get back at racists
and make themselves better off. So beneficial for the black
community.

.John
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http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/home.htm
Anthony Marsh
2018-06-12 13:25:34 UTC
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Post by John McAdams
Post by mainframetech
Post by bigdog
Apparently lots of blacks who voter for Obama were able to vote for Trump
as well. Those must have been the racist blacks.
There are plenty of blacks that hate whites. Obvious why given the
history.
Sure, and that's just a dandy way for blacks to get back at racists
and make themselves better off. So beneficial for the black
community.
Who authorized you to speak for the Black Community?
Can you even understand that free people are better off than slaves?
Or you think slaves have it easy? Don't have to pay taxes or mortgage.
Post by John McAdams
.John
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http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/home.htm
OHLeeRedux
2018-06-13 02:47:06 UTC
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Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by John McAdams
Post by mainframetech
Post by bigdog
Apparently lots of blacks who voter for Obama were able to vote for Trump
as well. Those must have been the racist blacks.
There are plenty of blacks that hate whites. Obvious why given the
history.
Sure, and that's just a dandy way for blacks to get back at racists
and make themselves better off. So beneficial for the black
community.
Who authorized you to speak for the Black Community?
Same question to you, white boy.
Post by Anthony Marsh
Can you even understand that free people are better off than slaves?
Or you think slaves have it easy? Don't have to pay taxes or mortgage.
Post by John McAdams
.John
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http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/home.htm
claviger
2018-06-13 02:49:15 UTC
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Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by John McAdams
Post by mainframetech
Post by bigdog
Apparently lots of blacks who voter for Obama were able to vote for Trump
as well. Those must have been the racist blacks.
There are plenty of blacks that hate whites. Obvious why given the
history.
Sure, and that's just a dandy way for blacks to get back at racists
and make themselves better off. So beneficial for the black
community.
Who authorized you to speak for the Black Community?
Who authorized you? Do you speak for the growing number of Black
Conservatives? No! You want Black people to remain virtual slaves
working for the Big Liberal Plantation in Washington DC. Vote Liberal
and the payoff is bigger welfare checks, taxed and paid for by working
people in America of all races.
Post by Anthony Marsh
Can you even understand that free people are better off than slaves?
High taxes make the Middle Class slaves to the Federal Government
too. The irony is the King George taxes were insignificant compared
to the Monster Feral Government in DC.
Post by Anthony Marsh
Or you think slaves have it easy? Don't have to pay taxes or mortgage.
Under the current system many Blacks are slaves to the Welfare System.
However, there is commonsense help on the way. Hard working Black
citizens are waking up to the gigantic con job in Washington DC. They are
some of the best spokesmen and spokeswomen for Conservative ethics. White
Liberals attack religion and especially Christianity. Black Americans are
the highest percentage of any ethnic group that attend church.

Here is the first Black owned Christian TV network:

https://shadowandact.com/the-only-independent-black-owned-operated-christian-tv-network-in-the-usa-receives-expanded-distribution-on-comcast-cable/

Two of many outstanding Black ministers:

The Power Pastor: How A.R. Bernard Built a New York Megachurch
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/.../reverend-ar-bernard-new-york-megachurch.htm...
The reverend’s intellectualism and distinctive brand of man-up
Christianity draws a wide audience to his church, the largest in New York.

No More Excuses Men's Conference - Oak Cliff Bible Fellowship
https://www.ocbfchurch.org/ministries/mens.../no-more-excuses-mens-conference/
Dr. Tony Evans

The message is honest work is the path to real freedom of choice
when you don't rely on welfare, and if you are on welfare volunteer
to give back to your neighborhood or your project, make a cleaner
safer place to live. Be a volunteer guardian at the local park where
mothers go and children play. It's important that young Black men
and women join local Police, Fire, and EMT Departments to serve
and protect their own neighborhoods. To the young Blacks: stay in
school and say NO to drugs! The unambiguous rejection to Liberal
Hollywood dearth of ethics where the message is drugs are cool.

This Conservative message is take control of your own destiny and
develop your own God given talent. If the Congress passes needed
tax reform the USA economy will respond, and expand causing the
domestic jobs market to burgeon.

Top Black Christian Magazines, Websites and Blogs
https://faithfullymagazine.com › Unwind
Black Christian News Network (BCNN1):
BCNN1.com says it is dedicated to reporting breaking
news from a black, Christian perspective for the glory
of God.

15 Black Christian Leaders You Should Know - OnFaith
https://www.onfaith.co/onfaith/2015/02/05/15-black-christian-leaders-you.../36068
Feb 5, 2015 - In honor of Black History Month, here is
a list of black Christian leaders ... a church planting
network, and has authored multiple books, among ...

A Conservative Tide is rising and Black Americans are responding.
As President Reagan used to say: "A Rising Tide Lifts All Boats."
John McAdams
2018-06-13 02:58:56 UTC
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Post by claviger
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by John McAdams
Post by mainframetech
Post by bigdog
Apparently lots of blacks who voter for Obama were able to vote for Trump
as well. Those must have been the racist blacks.
There are plenty of blacks that hate whites. Obvious why given the
history.
Sure, and that's just a dandy way for blacks to get back at racists
and make themselves better off. So beneficial for the black
community.
Who authorized you to speak for the Black Community?
Who authorized you? Do you speak for the growing number of Black
Conservatives? No! You want Black people to remain virtual slaves
working for the Big Liberal Plantation in Washington DC. Vote Liberal
and the payoff is bigger welfare checks, taxed and paid for by working
people in America of all races.
I don't see any evidence of a "rising number" of blacks inclined to
defect from the Democratic Party.

But there is a considerable amount of skepticism about welfare
dependency in the black community.

For example:

WARNING: VULGAR LANGUAGE AND IMAGES



.John
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http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/home.htm
mainframetech
2018-06-14 01:12:09 UTC
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Post by John McAdams
Post by claviger
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by John McAdams
Post by mainframetech
Post by bigdog
Apparently lots of blacks who voter for Obama were able to vote for Trump
as well. Those must have been the racist blacks.
There are plenty of blacks that hate whites. Obvious why given the
history.
Sure, and that's just a dandy way for blacks to get back at racists
and make themselves better off. So beneficial for the black
community.
Who authorized you to speak for the Black Community?
Who authorized you? Do you speak for the growing number of Black
Conservatives? No! You want Black people to remain virtual slaves
working for the Big Liberal Plantation in Washington DC. Vote Liberal
and the payoff is bigger welfare checks, taxed and paid for by working
people in America of all races.
I don't see any evidence of a "rising number" of blacks inclined to
defect from the Democratic Party.
But there is a considerable amount of skepticism about welfare
dependency in the black community.
WARNING: VULGAR LANGUAGE AND IMAGES
http://youtu.be/xLTTX35LNJo
.John
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http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/home.htm
LOL! One day it was bound to happen. A conservatives joke book!

Chris
Anthony Marsh
2018-06-14 14:45:53 UTC
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Raw Message
Post by John McAdams
Post by claviger
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by John McAdams
Post by mainframetech
Post by bigdog
Apparently lots of blacks who voter for Obama were able to vote for Trump
as well. Those must have been the racist blacks.
There are plenty of blacks that hate whites. Obvious why given the
history.
Sure, and that's just a dandy way for blacks to get back at racists
and make themselves better off. So beneficial for the black
community.
Who authorized you to speak for the Black Community?
Who authorized you? Do you speak for the growing number of Black
Conservatives? No! You want Black people to remain virtual slaves
working for the Big Liberal Plantation in Washington DC. Vote Liberal
and the payoff is bigger welfare checks, taxed and paid for by working
people in America of all races.
I don't see any evidence of a "rising number" of blacks inclined to
defect from the Democratic Party.
Either it's wishful thinking or he has a vivid imagination.
Post by John McAdams
But there is a considerable amount of skepticism about welfare
dependency in the black community.
WARNING: VULGAR LANGUAGE AND IMAGES
http://youtu.be/xLTTX35LNJo
.John
-----------------------
http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/home.htm
Anthony Marsh
2018-06-14 14:47:25 UTC
Permalink
Raw Message
Post by John McAdams
Post by claviger
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by John McAdams
Post by mainframetech
Post by bigdog
Apparently lots of blacks who voter for Obama were able to vote for Trump
as well. Those must have been the racist blacks.
There are plenty of blacks that hate whites. Obvious why given the
history.
Sure, and that's just a dandy way for blacks to get back at racists
and make themselves better off. So beneficial for the black
community.
Who authorized you to speak for the Black Community?
Who authorized you? Do you speak for the growing number of Black
Conservatives? No! You want Black people to remain virtual slaves
working for the Big Liberal Plantation in Washington DC. Vote Liberal
and the payoff is bigger welfare checks, taxed and paid for by working
people in America of all races.
I don't see any evidence of a "rising number" of blacks inclined to
defect from the Democratic Party.
But there is a considerable amount of skepticism about welfare
dependency in the black community.
WARNING: VULGAR LANGUAGE AND IMAGES
http://youtu.be/xLTTX35LNJo
That is a HOAX produced by rappers.
Post by John McAdams
.John
-----------------------
http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/home.htm
Anthony Marsh
2018-06-14 14:48:29 UTC
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Raw Message
Post by John McAdams
Post by claviger
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by John McAdams
Post by mainframetech
Post by bigdog
Apparently lots of blacks who voter for Obama were able to vote for Trump
as well. Those must have been the racist blacks.
There are plenty of blacks that hate whites. Obvious why given the
history.
Sure, and that's just a dandy way for blacks to get back at racists
and make themselves better off. So beneficial for the black
community.
Who authorized you to speak for the Black Community?
Who authorized you? Do you speak for the growing number of Black
Conservatives? No! You want Black people to remain virtual slaves
working for the Big Liberal Plantation in Washington DC. Vote Liberal
and the payoff is bigger welfare checks, taxed and paid for by working
people in America of all races.
I don't see any evidence of a "rising number" of blacks inclined to
defect from the Democratic Party.
But there is a considerable amount of skepticism about welfare
dependency in the black community.
WARNING: VULGAR LANGUAGE AND IMAGES
http://youtu.be/xLTTX35LNJo
HOAX
Post by John McAdams
.John
-----------------------
http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/home.htm
OHLeeRedux
2018-06-15 01:56:25 UTC
Permalink
Raw Message
Post by John McAdams
Post by claviger
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by John McAdams
Post by mainframetech
Post by bigdog
Apparently lots of blacks who voter for Obama were able to vote for Trump
as well. Those must have been the racist blacks.
There are plenty of blacks that hate whites. Obvious why given the
history.
Sure, and that's just a dandy way for blacks to get back at racists
and make themselves better off. So beneficial for the black
community.
Who authorized you to speak for the Black Community?
Who authorized you? Do you speak for the growing number of Black
Conservatives? No! You want Black people to remain virtual slaves
working for the Big Liberal Plantation in Washington DC. Vote Liberal
and the payoff is bigger welfare checks, taxed and paid for by working
people in America of all races.
I don't see any evidence of a "rising number" of blacks inclined to
defect from the Democratic Party.
But there is a considerable amount of skepticism about welfare
dependency in the black community.
WARNING: VULGAR LANGUAGE AND IMAGES
http://youtu.be/xLTTX35LNJo
HOAX
FAKE NEWS. You sound more and more like you hero, Donald Trump, every day,
Anthony.
mainframetech
2018-06-14 01:14:28 UTC
Permalink
Raw Message
Post by claviger
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by John McAdams
Post by mainframetech
Post by bigdog
Apparently lots of blacks who voter for Obama were able to vote for Trump
as well. Those must have been the racist blacks.
There are plenty of blacks that hate whites. Obvious why given the
history.
Sure, and that's just a dandy way for blacks to get back at racists
and make themselves better off. So beneficial for the black
community.
Who authorized you to speak for the Black Community?
Who authorized you? Do you speak for the growing number of Black
Conservatives? No! You want Black people to remain virtual slaves
working for the Big Liberal Plantation in Washington DC. Vote Liberal
and the payoff is bigger welfare checks, taxed and paid for by working
people in America of all races.
Odd, since Clinton put in Workfare! A plan I like. If you can work
and are receiving welfare, we'll give you a job to get paid for.
Cleaning up the town you live in or any number of unskilled jobs.
Post by claviger
Post by Anthony Marsh
Can you even understand that free people are better off than slaves?
High taxes make the Middle Class slaves to the Federal Government
too. The irony is the King George taxes were insignificant compared
to the Monster Feral Government in DC.
Post by Anthony Marsh
Or you think slaves have it easy? Don't have to pay taxes or mortgage.
Under the current system many Blacks are slaves to the Welfare System.
The usual, typical error in conservative thinking. Right now there are
not enough jobs to go around since the unemployment rolls have dried up.
We need more illegal immigrants to fill in the gaps...:)
Post by claviger
However, there is commonsense help on the way. Hard working Black
citizens are waking up to the gigantic con job in Washington DC. They are
some of the best spokesmen and spokeswomen for Conservative ethics. White
Liberals attack religion and especially Christianity. Black Americans are
the highest percentage of any ethnic group that attend church.
https://shadowandact.com/the-only-independent-black-owned-operated-christian-tv-network-in-the-usa-receives-expanded-distribution-on-comcast-cable/
The Power Pastor: How A.R. Bernard Built a New York Megachurch
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/.../reverend-ar-bernard-new-york-megachurch.htm...
The reverend’s intellectualism and distinctive brand of man-up
Christianity draws a wide audience to his church, the largest in New York.
No More Excuses Men's Conference - Oak Cliff Bible Fellowship
https://www.ocbfchurch.org/ministries/mens.../no-more-excuses-mens-conference/
Dr. Tony Evans
The message is honest work is the path to real freedom of choice
when you don't rely on welfare, and if you are on welfare volunteer
to give back to your neighborhood or your project, make a cleaner
safer place to live. Be a volunteer guardian at the local park where
mothers go and children play. It's important that young Black men
and women join local Police, Fire, and EMT Departments to serve
and protect their own neighborhoods. To the young Blacks: stay in
school and say NO to drugs! The unambiguous rejection to Liberal
Hollywood dearth of ethics where the message is drugs are cool.
This Conservative message is take control of your own destiny and
develop your own God given talent. If the Congress passes needed
tax reform the USA economy will respond, and expand causing the
domestic jobs market to burgeon.
Yeah, I could wish away the last tax 'reform' bill. a TEMPORARY bonus
for a few workers, and PERMANENT tax breaks for the very wealthy. And to
top it off, throwing 13 million people off their Health Insurance
(Medicaid). Where will they go now? Wait until they are seriously ill,
then go to the ER? Where was Trump when everyone really needed him? He
promised a "better, cheaper" Health system to replace Obamacare, and he
keeps whittling away at Obamacare and nothing has come in to replace it.
We're going to go back to where the Insurance companies were in charge and
gutted the customers and threw people off healthcare for previous
conditions.
Post by claviger
Top Black Christian Magazines, Websites and Blogs
https://faithfullymagazine.com › Unwind
BCNN1.com says it is dedicated to reporting breaking
news from a black, Christian perspective for the glory
of God.
15 Black Christian Leaders You Should Know - OnFaith
https://www.onfaith.co/onfaith/2015/02/05/15-black-christian-leaders-you.../36068
Feb 5, 2015 - In honor of Black History Month, here is
a list of black Christian leaders ... a church planting
network, and has authored multiple books, among ...
A Conservative Tide is rising and Black Americans are responding.
As President Reagan used to say: "A Rising Tide Lifts All Boats."
This tide seems to be electing democrats mostly in elections around the
country. I think many are tired of Trump already after only a year.

Chris
Bud
2018-06-15 00:48:36 UTC
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Raw Message
Post by mainframetech
Post by claviger
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by John McAdams
Post by mainframetech
Post by bigdog
Apparently lots of blacks who voter for Obama were able to vote for Trump
as well. Those must have been the racist blacks.
There are plenty of blacks that hate whites. Obvious why given the
history.
Sure, and that's just a dandy way for blacks to get back at racists
and make themselves better off. So beneficial for the black
community.
Who authorized you to speak for the Black Community?
Who authorized you? Do you speak for the growing number of Black
Conservatives? No! You want Black people to remain virtual slaves
working for the Big Liberal Plantation in Washington DC. Vote Liberal
and the payoff is bigger welfare checks, taxed and paid for by working
people in America of all races.
Odd, since Clinton put in Workfare! A plan I like. If you can work
and are receiving welfare, we'll give you a job to get paid for.
Cleaning up the town you live in or any number of unskilled jobs.
The problem with this is when you create this new bureaucracy with its
supervisors, managers and other assorted drones to hand out brooms it
costs more than hiring a private company to do the cleaning.
Post by mainframetech
Post by claviger
Post by Anthony Marsh
Can you even understand that free people are better off than slaves?
High taxes make the Middle Class slaves to the Federal Government
too. The irony is the King George taxes were insignificant compared
to the Monster Feral Government in DC.
Post by Anthony Marsh
Or you think slaves have it easy? Don't have to pay taxes or mortgage.
Under the current system many Blacks are slaves to the Welfare System.
The usual, typical error in conservative thinking. Right now there are
not enough jobs to go around since the unemployment rolls have dried up.
We need more illegal immigrants to fill in the gaps...:)
Typical error in liberal thinking. The libs are always pushing to
increase the minimum wage, but a flood of cheap labor keeps wages down. It
is simple supply and demand, when the demand for labor goes up, companies
are forced to pay more to secure that labor.
Post by mainframetech
Post by claviger
However, there is commonsense help on the way. Hard working Black
citizens are waking up to the gigantic con job in Washington DC. They are
some of the best spokesmen and spokeswomen for Conservative ethics. White
Liberals attack religion and especially Christianity. Black Americans are
the highest percentage of any ethnic group that attend church.
https://shadowandact.com/the-only-independent-black-owned-operated-christian-tv-network-in-the-usa-receives-expanded-distribution-on-comcast-cable/
The Power Pastor: How A.R. Bernard Built a New York Megachurch
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/.../reverend-ar-bernard-new-york-megachurch.htm...
The reverend’s intellectualism and distinctive brand of man-up
Christianity draws a wide audience to his church, the largest in New York.
No More Excuses Men's Conference - Oak Cliff Bible Fellowship
https://www.ocbfchurch.org/ministries/mens.../no-more-excuses-mens-conference/
Dr. Tony Evans
The message is honest work is the path to real freedom of choice
when you don't rely on welfare, and if you are on welfare volunteer
to give back to your neighborhood or your project, make a cleaner
safer place to live. Be a volunteer guardian at the local park where
mothers go and children play. It's important that young Black men
and women join local Police, Fire, and EMT Departments to serve
and protect their own neighborhoods. To the young Blacks: stay in
school and say NO to drugs! The unambiguous rejection to Liberal
Hollywood dearth of ethics where the message is drugs are cool.
This Conservative message is take control of your own destiny and
develop your own God given talent. If the Congress passes needed
tax reform the USA economy will respond, and expand causing the
domestic jobs market to burgeon.
Yeah, I could wish away the last tax 'reform' bill. a TEMPORARY bonus
for a few workers, and PERMANENT tax breaks for the very wealthy. And to
top it off, throwing 13 million people off their Health Insurance
(Medicaid). Where will they go now? Wait until they are seriously ill,
then go to the ER? Where was Trump when everyone really needed him? He
promised a "better, cheaper" Health system to replace Obamacare, and he
keeps whittling away at Obamacare and nothing has come in to replace it.
We're going to go back to where the Insurance companies were in charge and
gutted the customers and threw people off healthcare for previous
conditions.
Post by claviger
Top Black Christian Magazines, Websites and Blogs
https://faithfullymagazine.com › Unwind
BCNN1.com says it is dedicated to reporting breaking
news from a black, Christian perspective for the glory
of God.
15 Black Christian Leaders You Should Know - OnFaith
https://www.onfaith.co/onfaith/2015/02/05/15-black-christian-leaders-you.../36068
Feb 5, 2015 - In honor of Black History Month, here is
a list of black Christian leaders ... a church planting
network, and has authored multiple books, among ...
A Conservative Tide is rising and Black Americans are responding.
As President Reagan used to say: "A Rising Tide Lifts All Boats."
This tide seems to be electing democrats mostly in elections around the
country. I think many are tired of Trump already after only a year.
Chris
Jason Burke
2018-06-16 04:44:40 UTC
Permalink
Raw Message
Post by Bud
Post by mainframetech
Post by claviger
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by John McAdams
Post by mainframetech
Post by bigdog
Apparently lots of blacks who voter for Obama were able to vote for Trump
as well. Those must have been the racist blacks.
There are plenty of blacks that hate whites. Obvious why given the
history.
Sure, and that's just a dandy way for blacks to get back at racists
and make themselves better off. So beneficial for the black
community.
Who authorized you to speak for the Black Community?
Who authorized you? Do you speak for the growing number of Black
Conservatives? No! You want Black people to remain virtual slaves
working for the Big Liberal Plantation in Washington DC. Vote Liberal
and the payoff is bigger welfare checks, taxed and paid for by working
people in America of all races.
Odd, since Clinton put in Workfare! A plan I like. If you can work
and are receiving welfare, we'll give you a job to get paid for.
Cleaning up the town you live in or any number of unskilled jobs.
The problem with this is when you create this new bureaucracy with its
supervisors, managers and other assorted drones to hand out brooms it
costs more than hiring a private company to do the cleaning.
Post by mainframetech
Post by claviger
Post by Anthony Marsh
Can you even understand that free people are better off than slaves?
High taxes make the Middle Class slaves to the Federal Government
too. The irony is the King George taxes were insignificant compared
to the Monster Feral Government in DC.
Post by Anthony Marsh
Or you think slaves have it easy? Don't have to pay taxes or mortgage.
Under the current system many Blacks are slaves to the Welfare System.
The usual, typical error in conservative thinking. Right now there are
not enough jobs to go around since the unemployment rolls have dried up.
We need more illegal immigrants to fill in the gaps...:)
Typical error in liberal thinking. The libs are always pushing to
increase the minimum wage, but a flood of cheap labor keeps wages down. It
is simple supply and demand, when the demand for labor goes up, companies
are forced to pay more to secure that labor.
Don't confuse Chris with logic.
Post by Bud
Post by mainframetech
Post by claviger
However, there is commonsense help on the way. Hard working Black
citizens are waking up to the gigantic con job in Washington DC. They are
some of the best spokesmen and spokeswomen for Conservative ethics. White
Liberals attack religion and especially Christianity. Black Americans are
the highest percentage of any ethnic group that attend church.
https://shadowandact.com/the-only-independent-black-owned-operated-christian-tv-network-in-the-usa-receives-expanded-distribution-on-comcast-cable/
The Power Pastor: How A.R. Bernard Built a New York Megachurch
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/.../reverend-ar-bernard-new-york-megachurch.htm...
The reverend’s intellectualism and distinctive brand of man-up
Christianity draws a wide audience to his church, the largest in New York.
No More Excuses Men's Conference - Oak Cliff Bible Fellowship
https://www.ocbfchurch.org/ministries/mens.../no-more-excuses-mens-conference/
Dr. Tony Evans
The message is honest work is the path to real freedom of choice
when you don't rely on welfare, and if you are on welfare volunteer
to give back to your neighborhood or your project, make a cleaner
safer place to live. Be a volunteer guardian at the local park where
mothers go and children play. It's important that young Black men
and women join local Police, Fire, and EMT Departments to serve
and protect their own neighborhoods. To the young Blacks: stay in
school and say NO to drugs! The unambiguous rejection to Liberal
Hollywood dearth of ethics where the message is drugs are cool.
This Conservative message is take control of your own destiny and
develop your own God given talent. If the Congress passes needed
tax reform the USA economy will respond, and expand causing the
domestic jobs market to burgeon.
Yeah, I could wish away the last tax 'reform' bill. a TEMPORARY bonus
for a few workers, and PERMANENT tax breaks for the very wealthy. And to
top it off, throwing 13 million people off their Health Insurance
(Medicaid). Where will they go now? Wait until they are seriously ill,
then go to the ER? Where was Trump when everyone really needed him? He
promised a "better, cheaper" Health system to replace Obamacare, and he
keeps whittling away at Obamacare and nothing has come in to replace it.
We're going to go back to where the Insurance companies were in charge and
gutted the customers and threw people off healthcare for previous
conditions.
Post by claviger
Top Black Christian Magazines, Websites and Blogs
https://faithfullymagazine.com › Unwind
BCNN1.com says it is dedicated to reporting breaking
news from a black, Christian perspective for the glory
of God.
15 Black Christian Leaders You Should Know - OnFaith
https://www.onfaith.co/onfaith/2015/02/05/15-black-christian-leaders-you.../36068
Feb 5, 2015 - In honor of Black History Month, here is
a list of black Christian leaders ... a church planting
network, and has authored multiple books, among ...
A Conservative Tide is rising and Black Americans are responding.
As President Reagan used to say: "A Rising Tide Lifts All Boats."
This tide seems to be electing democrats mostly in elections around the
country. I think many are tired of Trump already after only a year.
Chris
mainframetech
2018-06-12 21:54:02 UTC
Permalink
Raw Message
Post by John McAdams
Post by mainframetech
Post by bigdog
Apparently lots of blacks who voter for Obama were able to vote for Trump
as well. Those must have been the racist blacks.
There are plenty of blacks that hate whites. Obvious why given the
history.
Sure, and that's just a dandy way for blacks to get back at racists
and make themselves better off. So beneficial for the black
community.
.John
-----------------------
http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/home.htm
Even with sarcasm, you're on the right track. Fosters more violence.

Chris
bigdog
2018-06-12 02:06:28 UTC
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Post by mainframetech
Post by bigdog
Post by Bud
Post by mainframetech
Post by Bud
Post by mainframetech
Post by bigdog
In another thread which had digressed to a discussion of alleged Russian
hacking of the 2016 election, one of our most prolific posters made the
"Stay tuned to MSNBC. New documents are being released that show how the
RUSSIANS tried to hack the computers. Phising.
They also wanted to modify the voter roles to take off all black voters."
Can you imagine if they had been successful and no black voters were
allowed to vote. Gee, that wouldn't have been too suspicious.
However, SOME of the black voters could have been stopped, making it
easier to fool enough people to sway the election. The GOP tries to stop
black voters in every election and they use many tricks to do it.
Chris
Like those "WHITE ONLY" signs on the polling booths.
Libs love their contrived mythologies and false narratives.
As you well know, there are any tactics that are used to keep black
voters away from the polls. Ina number of cases the laws made for that
purpose have had to be put down by the Supreme Court.
https://www.aclu.org/blog/voting-rights/fighting-voter-suppression/alabamas-effort-suppress-black-vote-couldnt-prevent
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voter_suppression_in_the_United_States
https://scholars.org/brief/how-conservatives-rewrote-north-carolina-election-laws-discourage-voter-participation
https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/05/15/528457693/supreme-court-declines-republican-bid-to-revive-north-carolina-voter-id-law
And on and on ad infinitum.
Chris
So, hundreds of thousands of blacks who got out to vote for Obama were
somehow prevented by the GOP from getting out and voting for Hillary?
Apparently lots of blacks who voter for Obama were able to vote for Trump
as well. Those must have been the racist blacks.
There are plenty of blacks that hate whites. Obvious why given the
history.
Is that the reason they voted for Trump?
Anthony Marsh
2018-06-14 00:50:52 UTC
Permalink
Raw Message
Post by bigdog
Post by mainframetech
Post by bigdog
Post by Bud
Post by mainframetech
Post by Bud
Post by mainframetech
Post by bigdog
In another thread which had digressed to a discussion of alleged Russian
hacking of the 2016 election, one of our most prolific posters made the
"Stay tuned to MSNBC. New documents are being released that show how the
RUSSIANS tried to hack the computers. Phising.
They also wanted to modify the voter roles to take off all black voters."
Can you imagine if they had been successful and no black voters were
allowed to vote. Gee, that wouldn't have been too suspicious.
However, SOME of the black voters could have been stopped, making it
easier to fool enough people to sway the election. The GOP tries to stop
black voters in every election and they use many tricks to do it.
Chris
Like those "WHITE ONLY" signs on the polling booths.
Libs love their contrived mythologies and false narratives.
As you well know, there are any tactics that are used to keep black
voters away from the polls. Ina number of cases the laws made for that
purpose have had to be put down by the Supreme Court.
https://www.aclu.org/blog/voting-rights/fighting-voter-suppression/alabamas-effort-suppress-black-vote-couldnt-prevent
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voter_suppression_in_the_United_States
https://scholars.org/brief/how-conservatives-rewrote-north-carolina-election-laws-discourage-voter-participation
https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/05/15/528457693/supreme-court-declines-republican-bid-to-revive-north-carolina-voter-id-law
And on and on ad infinitum.
Chris
So, hundreds of thousands of blacks who got out to vote for Obama were
somehow prevented by the GOP from getting out and voting for Hillary?
Apparently lots of blacks who voter for Obama were able to vote for Trump
as well. Those must have been the racist blacks.
There are plenty of blacks that hate whites. Obvious why given the
history.
Is that the reason they voted for Trump?
How many? 1 or 2? Maybe they saw a chance to make some money.
mainframetech
2018-06-10 00:33:37 UTC
Permalink
Raw Message
Post by Bud
Post by mainframetech
Post by Bud
Post by mainframetech
Post by bigdog
In another thread which had digressed to a discussion of alleged Russian
hacking of the 2016 election, one of our most prolific posters made the
"Stay tuned to MSNBC. New documents are being released that show how the
RUSSIANS tried to hack the computers. Phising.
They also wanted to modify the voter roles to take off all black voters."
Can you imagine if they had been successful and no black voters were
allowed to vote. Gee, that wouldn't have been too suspicious.
However, SOME of the black voters could have been stopped, making it
easier to fool enough people to sway the election. The GOP tries to stop
black voters in every election and they use many tricks to do it.
Chris
Like those "WHITE ONLY" signs on the polling booths.
Libs love their contrived mythologies and false narratives.
As you well know, there are any tactics that are used to keep black
voters away from the polls. Ina number of cases the laws made for that
purpose have had to be put down by the Supreme Court.
https://www.aclu.org/blog/voting-rights/fighting-voter-suppression/alabamas-effort-suppress-black-vote-couldnt-prevent
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voter_suppression_in_the_United_States
https://scholars.org/brief/how-conservatives-rewrote-north-carolina-election-laws-discourage-voter-participation
https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/05/15/528457693/supreme-court-declines-republican-bid-to-revive-north-carolina-voter-id-law
And on and on ad infinitum.
Chris
So, hundreds of thousands of blacks who got out to vote for Obama were
somehow prevented by the GOP from getting out and voting for Hillary?
You didn't get that from the links provided?

Chris
Bud
2018-06-11 01:43:44 UTC
Permalink
Raw Message
Post by mainframetech
Post by Bud
Post by mainframetech
Post by Bud
Post by mainframetech
Post by bigdog
In another thread which had digressed to a discussion of alleged Russian
hacking of the 2016 election, one of our most prolific posters made the
"Stay tuned to MSNBC. New documents are being released that show how the
RUSSIANS tried to hack the computers. Phising.
They also wanted to modify the voter roles to take off all black voters."
Can you imagine if they had been successful and no black voters were
allowed to vote. Gee, that wouldn't have been too suspicious.
However, SOME of the black voters could have been stopped, making it
easier to fool enough people to sway the election. The GOP tries to stop
black voters in every election and they use many tricks to do it.
Chris
Like those "WHITE ONLY" signs on the polling booths.
Libs love their contrived mythologies and false narratives.
As you well know, there are any tactics that are used to keep black
voters away from the polls. Ina number of cases the laws made for that
purpose have had to be put down by the Supreme Court.
https://www.aclu.org/blog/voting-rights/fighting-voter-suppression/alabamas-effort-suppress-black-vote-couldnt-prevent
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voter_suppression_in_the_United_States
https://scholars.org/brief/how-conservatives-rewrote-north-carolina-election-laws-discourage-voter-participation
https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/05/15/528457693/supreme-court-declines-republican-bid-to-revive-north-carolina-voter-id-law
And on and on ad infinitum.
Chris
So, hundreds of thousands of blacks who got out to vote for Obama were
somehow prevented by the GOP from getting out and voting for Hillary?
You didn't get that from the links provided?
Chris
You did?
Anthony Marsh
2018-06-11 01:46:25 UTC
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Post by Bud
Post by mainframetech
Post by Bud
Post by mainframetech
Post by bigdog
In another thread which had digressed to a discussion of alleged Russian
hacking of the 2016 election, one of our most prolific posters made the
"Stay tuned to MSNBC. New documents are being released that show how the
RUSSIANS tried to hack the computers. Phising.
They also wanted to modify the voter roles to take off all black voters."
Can you imagine if they had been successful and no black voters were
allowed to vote. Gee, that wouldn't have been too suspicious.
However, SOME of the black voters could have been stopped, making it
easier to fool enough people to sway the election. The GOP tries to stop
black voters in every election and they use many tricks to do it.
Chris
Like those "WHITE ONLY" signs on the polling booths.
Libs love their contrived mythologies and false narratives.
As you well know, there are any tactics that are used to keep black
voters away from the polls. Ina number of cases the laws made for that
purpose have had to be put down by the Supreme Court.
https://www.aclu.org/blog/voting-rights/fighting-voter-suppression/alabamas-effort-suppress-black-vote-couldnt-prevent
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voter_suppression_in_the_United_States
https://scholars.org/brief/how-conservatives-rewrote-north-carolina-election-laws-discourage-voter-participation
https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/05/15/528457693/supreme-court-declines-republican-bid-to-revive-north-carolina-voter-id-law
And on and on ad infinitum.
Chris
So, hundreds of thousands of blacks who got out to vote for Obama were
somehow prevented by the GOP from getting out and voting for Hillary?
Yes. Millions. The Republicans had 8 years to work on the project.
Project Blackball.
Bud
2018-06-12 02:01:51 UTC
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Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by Bud
Post by mainframetech
Post by Bud
Post by mainframetech
Post by bigdog
In another thread which had digressed to a discussion of alleged Russian
hacking of the 2016 election, one of our most prolific posters made the
"Stay tuned to MSNBC. New documents are being released that show how the
RUSSIANS tried to hack the computers. Phising.
They also wanted to modify the voter roles to take off all black voters."
Can you imagine if they had been successful and no black voters were
allowed to vote. Gee, that wouldn't have been too suspicious.
However, SOME of the black voters could have been stopped, making it
easier to fool enough people to sway the election. The GOP tries to stop
black voters in every election and they use many tricks to do it.
Chris
Like those "WHITE ONLY" signs on the polling booths.
Libs love their contrived mythologies and false narratives.
As you well know, there are any tactics that are used to keep black
voters away from the polls. Ina number of cases the laws made for that
purpose have had to be put down by the Supreme Court.
https://www.aclu.org/blog/voting-rights/fighting-voter-suppression/alabamas-effort-suppress-black-vote-couldnt-prevent
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voter_suppression_in_the_United_States
https://scholars.org/brief/how-conservatives-rewrote-north-carolina-election-laws-discourage-voter-participation
https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/05/15/528457693/supreme-court-declines-republican-bid-to-revive-north-carolina-voter-id-law
And on and on ad infinitum.
Chris
So, hundreds of thousands of blacks who got out to vote for Obama were
somehow prevented by the GOP from getting out and voting for Hillary?
Yes. Millions. The Republicans had 8 years to work on the project.
Project Blackball.
Is this the plan where the GOP gets the Democrats to run a candidate
that black people couldn`t be bothered to go out and vote for?
Anthony Marsh
2018-06-14 00:52:49 UTC
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Post by Bud
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by Bud
Post by mainframetech
Post by Bud
Post by mainframetech
Post by bigdog
In another thread which had digressed to a discussion of alleged Russian
hacking of the 2016 election, one of our most prolific posters made the
"Stay tuned to MSNBC. New documents are being released that show how the
RUSSIANS tried to hack the computers. Phising.
They also wanted to modify the voter roles to take off all black voters."
Can you imagine if they had been successful and no black voters were
allowed to vote. Gee, that wouldn't have been too suspicious.
However, SOME of the black voters could have been stopped, making it
easier to fool enough people to sway the election. The GOP tries to stop
black voters in every election and they use many tricks to do it.
Chris
Like those "WHITE ONLY" signs on the polling booths.
Libs love their contrived mythologies and false narratives.
As you well know, there are any tactics that are used to keep black
voters away from the polls. Ina number of cases the laws made for that
purpose have had to be put down by the Supreme Court.
https://www.aclu.org/blog/voting-rights/fighting-voter-suppression/alabamas-effort-suppress-black-vote-couldnt-prevent
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voter_suppression_in_the_United_States
https://scholars.org/brief/how-conservatives-rewrote-north-carolina-election-laws-discourage-voter-participation
https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/05/15/528457693/supreme-court-declines-republican-bid-to-revive-north-carolina-voter-id-law
And on and on ad infinitum.
Chris
So, hundreds of thousands of blacks who got out to vote for Obama were
somehow prevented by the GOP from getting out and voting for Hillary?
Yes. Millions. The Republicans had 8 years to work on the project.
Project Blackball.
Is this the plan where the GOP gets the Democrats to run a candidate
that black people couldn`t be bothered to go out and vote for?
You mean Hillary? Maybe part of the plan was to divide the Democratic
Party. So you think that NO blacks voted for Hillary?

You think 89% shows that they didn't like Hillary? Or do you mean that
Republicans scared away black voters from the polls?
Anthony Marsh
2018-06-08 00:38:04 UTC
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Post by Bud
Post by mainframetech
Post by bigdog
In another thread which had digressed to a discussion of alleged Russian
hacking of the 2016 election, one of our most prolific posters made the
"Stay tuned to MSNBC. New documents are being released that show how the
RUSSIANS tried to hack the computers. Phising.
They also wanted to modify the voter roles to take off all black voters."
Can you imagine if they had been successful and no black voters were
allowed to vote. Gee, that wouldn't have been too suspicious.
However, SOME of the black voters could have been stopped, making it
easier to fool enough people to sway the election. The GOP tries to stop
black voters in every election and they use many tricks to do it.
Chris
Like those "WHITE ONLY" signs on the polling booths.
Not funny. And not accurate. They never needed to have the WHITES ONLY
sign at polling booths, as blacks knew to stay away and were threatened
and killed before they even got close.

If you continually deny that there was ever racism in our country there is
something seriously wrong with you.

What you should be doing is admitting it but claiming that YOU got rid of
it.
Post by Bud
Libs love their contrived mythologies and false narratives.
Bud
2018-06-08 22:26:20 UTC
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Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by Bud
Post by mainframetech
Post by bigdog
In another thread which had digressed to a discussion of alleged Russian
hacking of the 2016 election, one of our most prolific posters made the
"Stay tuned to MSNBC. New documents are being released that show how the
RUSSIANS tried to hack the computers. Phising.
They also wanted to modify the voter roles to take off all black voters."
Can you imagine if they had been successful and no black voters were
allowed to vote. Gee, that wouldn't have been too suspicious.
However, SOME of the black voters could have been stopped, making it
easier to fool enough people to sway the election. The GOP tries to stop
black voters in every election and they use many tricks to do it.
Chris
Like those "WHITE ONLY" signs on the polling booths.
Not funny. And not accurate. They never needed to have the WHITES ONLY
sign at polling booths, as blacks knew to stay away and were threatened
and killed before they even got close.
We solved that problem. Now the biggest threat to a black man is another
black man.
Post by Anthony Marsh
If you continually deny that there was ever racism in our country there is
something seriously wrong with you.
Some people deny that black people can be racist.
Post by Anthony Marsh
What you should be doing is admitting it but claiming that YOU got rid of
it.
What you should be doing is admitting that liberal solutions can only
make the racial problems in this country worse.
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by Bud
Libs love their contrived mythologies and false narratives.
mainframetech
2018-06-10 00:33:27 UTC
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Post by Bud
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by Bud
Post by mainframetech
Post by bigdog
In another thread which had digressed to a discussion of alleged Russian
hacking of the 2016 election, one of our most prolific posters made the
"Stay tuned to MSNBC. New documents are being released that show how the
RUSSIANS tried to hack the computers. Phising.
They also wanted to modify the voter roles to take off all black voters."
Can you imagine if they had been successful and no black voters were
allowed to vote. Gee, that wouldn't have been too suspicious.
However, SOME of the black voters could have been stopped, making it
easier to fool enough people to sway the election. The GOP tries to stop
black voters in every election and they use many tricks to do it.
Chris
Like those "WHITE ONLY" signs on the polling booths.
Not funny. And not accurate. They never needed to have the WHITES ONLY
sign at polling booths, as blacks knew to stay away and were threatened
and killed before they even got close.
We solved that problem. Now the biggest threat to a black man is another
black man.
No, not really. The biggest threat to a black man is the police.
And not just because they shoot unarmed black men, but because when the
citizenry gets up in arms about murders and other crimes in their
neighborhood, the police who are being pressured to find the criminals
will sometimes find a black man and bring him in with fake evidence, and
prosecutors who are under the same pressure to stop the criminals will
prosecute that black man who was completely innocent and put him away for
many years in prison. Everyone is happy except the black man that was
used as the 'patsy'.

I don't say black men don't commit crimes, but there are times when
they are picked out and used to calm the noisy public and sent away for
nothing. The statistics of those that have been released when better
evidence was brought forward prove it:

https://www.cnn.com/2017/03/07/politics/blacks-wrongful-convictions-study/index.html

https://www.innocenceproject.org/african-american-wrongful-convictions-throughout-history/
Post by Bud
Post by Anthony Marsh
If you continually deny that there was ever racism in our country there is
something seriously wrong with you.
Some people deny that black people can be racist.
Post by Anthony Marsh
What you should be doing is admitting it but claiming that YOU got rid of
it.
What you should be doing is admitting that liberal solutions can only
make the racial problems in this country worse.
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by Bud
Libs love their contrived mythologies and false narratives.
So the conservative method of hard line prosecution is the answer?
Put 'em away for life for having a marijuana joint on them? You think
THAT is the answer? Have another war on drugs and crime? It never worked
in the past. Find another answer.

Chris
bigdog
2018-06-11 01:45:13 UTC
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Post by mainframetech
Post by Bud
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by Bud
Post by mainframetech
Post by bigdog
In another thread which had digressed to a discussion of alleged Russian
hacking of the 2016 election, one of our most prolific posters made the
"Stay tuned to MSNBC. New documents are being released that show how the
RUSSIANS tried to hack the computers. Phising.
They also wanted to modify the voter roles to take off all black voters."
Can you imagine if they had been successful and no black voters were
allowed to vote. Gee, that wouldn't have been too suspicious.
However, SOME of the black voters could have been stopped, making it
easier to fool enough people to sway the election. The GOP tries to stop
black voters in every election and they use many tricks to do it.
Chris
Like those "WHITE ONLY" signs on the polling booths.
Not funny. And not accurate. They never needed to have the WHITES ONLY
sign at polling booths, as blacks knew to stay away and were threatened
and killed before they even got close.
We solved that problem. Now the biggest threat to a black man is another
black man.
No, not really. The biggest threat to a black man is the police.
And not just because they shoot unarmed black men, but because when the
citizenry gets up in arms about murders and other crimes in their
neighborhood, the police who are being pressured to find the criminals
will sometimes find a black man and bring him in with fake evidence, and
prosecutors who are under the same pressure to stop the criminals will
prosecute that black man who was completely innocent and put him away for
many years in prison. Everyone is happy except the black man that was
used as the 'patsy'.
White people get wrongly convicted too. Ever see the documentary The Thin
Blue Line?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Thin_Blue_Line_(1988_film)
Post by mainframetech
I don't say black men don't commit crimes, but there are times when
they are picked out and used to calm the noisy public and sent away for
nothing. The statistics of those that have been released when better
https://www.cnn.com/2017/03/07/politics/blacks-wrongful-convictions-study/index.html
https://www.innocenceproject.org/african-american-wrongful-convictions-throughout-history/
People of all colors get wrongly convicted and it is rarely due to
prosecutors deliberately trying to railroad someone they know to be
innocent.
Post by mainframetech
Post by Bud
Post by Anthony Marsh
If you continually deny that there was ever racism in our country there is
something seriously wrong with you.
Some people deny that black people can be racist.
Post by Anthony Marsh
What you should be doing is admitting it but claiming that YOU got rid of
it.
What you should be doing is admitting that liberal solutions can only
make the racial problems in this country worse.
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by Bud
Libs love their contrived mythologies and false narratives.
So the conservative method of hard line prosecution is the answer?
Put 'em away for life for having a marijuana joint on them?
Lots of conservatives have advocated for legalization of recreational
marijuana. Bill Buckley was one of the most outspoken.
Post by mainframetech
You think
THAT is the answer? Have another war on drugs and crime? It never worked
in the past. Find another answer.
If it were up to me, adults would be allowed to put any substance into
their bodies they choose, keeping of course laws prohibiting operating
vehicles while under the influence of those substances. Any adult who
chooses to use recreational drugs would accept the consequences of that
decision and would not be entitled to a dime of government assistance to
get them sober.

The most intelligent drug policy we ever had was "just say no". It's a lot
cheaper than treating drug abuse as a crime.
mainframetech
2018-06-12 21:55:47 UTC
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Post by bigdog
Post by mainframetech
Post by Bud
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by Bud
Post by mainframetech
Post by bigdog
In another thread which had digressed to a discussion of alleged Russian
hacking of the 2016 election, one of our most prolific posters made the
"Stay tuned to MSNBC. New documents are being released that show how the
RUSSIANS tried to hack the computers. Phising.
They also wanted to modify the voter roles to take off all black voters."
Can you imagine if they had been successful and no black voters were
allowed to vote. Gee, that wouldn't have been too suspicious.
However, SOME of the black voters could have been stopped, making it
easier to fool enough people to sway the election. The GOP tries to stop
black voters in every election and they use many tricks to do it.
Chris
Like those "WHITE ONLY" signs on the polling booths.
Not funny. And not accurate. They never needed to have the WHITES ONLY
sign at polling booths, as blacks knew to stay away and were threatened
and killed before they even got close.
We solved that problem. Now the biggest threat to a black man is another
black man.
No, not really. The biggest threat to a black man is the police.
And not just because they shoot unarmed black men, but because when the
citizenry gets up in arms about murders and other crimes in their
neighborhood, the police who are being pressured to find the criminals
will sometimes find a black man and bring him in with fake evidence, and
prosecutors who are under the same pressure to stop the criminals will
prosecute that black man who was completely innocent and put him away for
many years in prison. Everyone is happy except the black man that was
used as the 'patsy'.
White people get wrongly convicted too. Ever see the documentary The Thin
Blue Line?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Thin_Blue_Line_(1988_film)
Post by mainframetech
I don't say black men don't commit crimes, but there are times when
they are picked out and used to calm the noisy public and sent away for
nothing. The statistics of those that have been released when better
https://www.cnn.com/2017/03/07/politics/blacks-wrongful-convictions-study/index.html
https://www.innocenceproject.org/african-american-wrongful-convictions-throughout-history/
People of all colors get wrongly convicted and it is rarely due to
prosecutors deliberately trying to railroad someone they know to be
innocent.
Amazing how you can read the minds of so many prosecutors from a
distance!
Post by bigdog
Post by mainframetech
Post by Bud
Post by Anthony Marsh
If you continually deny that there was ever racism in our country there is
something seriously wrong with you.
Some people deny that black people can be racist.
Post by Anthony Marsh
What you should be doing is admitting it but claiming that YOU got rid of
it.
What you should be doing is admitting that liberal solutions can only
make the racial problems in this country worse.
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by Bud
Libs love their contrived mythologies and false narratives.
So the conservative method of hard line prosecution is the answer?
Put 'em away for life for having a marijuana joint on them?
Lots of conservatives have advocated for legalization of recreational
marijuana. Bill Buckley was one of the most outspoken.
Lots of conservatives have opted for harder sentences to CONTROL the
guilty pot smokers!
Post by bigdog
Post by mainframetech
You think
THAT is the answer? Have another war on drugs and crime? It never worked
in the past. Find another answer.
If it were up to me, adults would be allowed to put any substance into
their bodies they choose, keeping of course laws prohibiting operating
vehicles while under the influence of those substances. Any adult who
chooses to use recreational drugs would accept the consequences of that
decision and would not be entitled to a dime of government assistance to
get them sober.
Which would lead to expanding the problem we have now. That addicts
on heavier drugs will go around stealing anything they can get their hands
on, and doing anything to get money for the next fix. The crime rate
would soar.
Post by bigdog
The most intelligent drug policy we ever had was "just say no". It's a lot
cheaper than treating drug abuse as a crime.
OK as far as it goes. But the addict needs psychotherapy too, to get
at the reasons to get into drugs and stay there. If real life is nowhere
as pleasant as the drug high, then you have to combat that problem.

Chris
bigdog
2018-06-13 20:00:02 UTC
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Post by mainframetech
Post by bigdog
Post by mainframetech
Post by Bud
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by Bud
Post by mainframetech
Post by bigdog
In another thread which had digressed to a discussion of alleged Russian
hacking of the 2016 election, one of our most prolific posters made the
"Stay tuned to MSNBC. New documents are being released that show how the
RUSSIANS tried to hack the computers. Phising.
They also wanted to modify the voter roles to take off all black voters."
Can you imagine if they had been successful and no black voters were
allowed to vote. Gee, that wouldn't have been too suspicious.
However, SOME of the black voters could have been stopped, making it
easier to fool enough people to sway the election. The GOP tries to stop
black voters in every election and they use many tricks to do it.
Chris
Like those "WHITE ONLY" signs on the polling booths.
Not funny. And not accurate. They never needed to have the WHITES ONLY
sign at polling booths, as blacks knew to stay away and were threatened
and killed before they even got close.
We solved that problem. Now the biggest threat to a black man is another
black man.
No, not really. The biggest threat to a black man is the police.
And not just because they shoot unarmed black men, but because when the
citizenry gets up in arms about murders and other crimes in their
neighborhood, the police who are being pressured to find the criminals
will sometimes find a black man and bring him in with fake evidence, and
prosecutors who are under the same pressure to stop the criminals will
prosecute that black man who was completely innocent and put him away for
many years in prison. Everyone is happy except the black man that was
used as the 'patsy'.
White people get wrongly convicted too. Ever see the documentary The Thin
Blue Line?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Thin_Blue_Line_(1988_film)
Post by mainframetech
I don't say black men don't commit crimes, but there are times when
they are picked out and used to calm the noisy public and sent away for
nothing. The statistics of those that have been released when better
https://www.cnn.com/2017/03/07/politics/blacks-wrongful-convictions-study/index.html
https://www.innocenceproject.org/african-american-wrongful-convictions-throughout-history/
People of all colors get wrongly convicted and it is rarely due to
prosecutors deliberately trying to railroad someone they know to be
innocent.
Amazing how you can read the minds of so many prosecutors from a
distance!
It shouldn't be so amazing to you since you tell us you can read Oswald's
mind from beyond the grave. You tell us he only bought his rifle to have
his picture taken with it and never intended to shoot anybody with it. Did
your crystal ball or your Ouija board tell you that?
Post by mainframetech
Post by bigdog
Post by mainframetech
Post by Bud
Post by Anthony Marsh
If you continually deny that there was ever racism in our country there is
something seriously wrong with you.
Some people deny that black people can be racist.
Post by Anthony Marsh
What you should be doing is admitting it but claiming that YOU got rid of
it.
What you should be doing is admitting that liberal solutions can only
make the racial problems in this country worse.
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by Bud
Libs love their contrived mythologies and false narratives.
So the conservative method of hard line prosecution is the answer?
Put 'em away for life for having a marijuana joint on them?
Lots of conservatives have advocated for legalization of recreational
marijuana. Bill Buckley was one of the most outspoken.
Lots of conservatives have opted for harder sentences to CONTROL the
guilty pot smokers!
Post by bigdog
Post by mainframetech
You think
THAT is the answer? Have another war on drugs and crime? It never worked
in the past. Find another answer.
If it were up to me, adults would be allowed to put any substance into
their bodies they choose, keeping of course laws prohibiting operating
vehicles while under the influence of those substances. Any adult who
chooses to use recreational drugs would accept the consequences of that
decision and would not be entitled to a dime of government assistance to
get them sober.
Which would lead to expanding the problem we have now.
The problem would be limited to those users and those close to them. It
wouldn't require my tax dollars for the police to arrest them, prosecutors
to prosecute them, and the state to incarcerate them. The war on drugs has
been a complete failure just as alcohol prohibition was but we're so dumb
as a society we think we can get rid of things by making them illegal.
Drug abuse is no different than any other self destructive behavior such
as tobacco use or eating to the point of obesity. We encourage people to
abandon those practices but we don't criminalize them and it is the person
who engages in those practices that suffers the consequences. We should
deal with drug use the same way. If you choose to do, you will be the one
to suffer the consequences.
Post by mainframetech
That addicts
on heavier drugs will go around stealing anything they can get their hands
on, and doing anything to get money for the next fix. The crime rate
would soar.
The reason drugs are so expensive is because they are illegal which is
what forces people to steal to pay for their habits. They would be much
cheaper if they were legalized.
Post by mainframetech
Post by bigdog
The most intelligent drug policy we ever had was "just say no". It's a lot
cheaper than treating drug abuse as a crime.
OK as far as it goes. But the addict needs psychotherapy too, to get
at the reasons to get into drugs and stay there. If real life is nowhere
as pleasant as the drug high, then you have to combat that problem.
The addict creates the problem when he chooses to use recreational drug.
mainframetech
2018-06-14 19:15:10 UTC
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Post by bigdog
Post by mainframetech
Post by bigdog
Post by mainframetech
Post by Bud
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by Bud
Post by mainframetech
Post by bigdog
In another thread which had digressed to a discussion of alleged Russian
hacking of the 2016 election, one of our most prolific posters made the
"Stay tuned to MSNBC. New documents are being released that show how the
RUSSIANS tried to hack the computers. Phising.
They also wanted to modify the voter roles to take off all black voters."
Can you imagine if they had been successful and no black voters were
allowed to vote. Gee, that wouldn't have been too suspicious.
However, SOME of the black voters could have been stopped, making it
easier to fool enough people to sway the election. The GOP tries to stop
black voters in every election and they use many tricks to do it.
Chris
Like those "WHITE ONLY" signs on the polling booths.
Not funny. And not accurate. They never needed to have the WHITES ONLY
sign at polling booths, as blacks knew to stay away and were threatened
and killed before they even got close.
We solved that problem. Now the biggest threat to a black man is another
black man.
No, not really. The biggest threat to a black man is the police.
And not just because they shoot unarmed black men, but because when the
citizenry gets up in arms about murders and other crimes in their
neighborhood, the police who are being pressured to find the criminals
will sometimes find a black man and bring him in with fake evidence, and
prosecutors who are under the same pressure to stop the criminals will
prosecute that black man who was completely innocent and put him away for
many years in prison. Everyone is happy except the black man that was
used as the 'patsy'.
White people get wrongly convicted too. Ever see the documentary The Thin
Blue Line?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Thin_Blue_Line_(1988_film)
Post by mainframetech
I don't say black men don't commit crimes, but there are times when
they are picked out and used to calm the noisy public and sent away for
nothing. The statistics of those that have been released when better
https://www.cnn.com/2017/03/07/politics/blacks-wrongful-convictions-study/index.html
https://www.innocenceproject.org/african-american-wrongful-convictions-throughout-history/
People of all colors get wrongly convicted and it is rarely due to
prosecutors deliberately trying to railroad someone they know to be
innocent.
Amazing how you can read the minds of so many prosecutors from a
distance!
It shouldn't be so amazing to you since you tell us you can read Oswald's
mind from beyond the grave. You tell us he only bought his rifle to have
his picture taken with it and never intended to shoot anybody with it. Did
your crystal ball or your Ouija board tell you that?
No, I use real evidence. Like when Oswald bought his rifle from
Klein's store they offered him ammunition to go with the rifle and he
passed it up, suggesting that he wasn't intending to kill anyone with the
rifle. As well, evidence was clear that he didn't practice with the rifle
which also suggested he didn't want the rifle for killing. In fact, he
wanted the rifle for what he used it for, which was to have his photo
taken with it. It would suggest to certain rebellious types that he was a
rebel also and rough and ready for action. That last is my opinion from
the evidence that he didn't intend to kill with the rifle. Evidence also
suggests that he took the same negligent care of the rifle as when he was
in the service and was often flagged for a dirty weapon.
Post by bigdog
Post by mainframetech
Post by bigdog
Post by mainframetech
Post by Bud
Post by Anthony Marsh
If you continually deny that there was ever racism in our country there is
something seriously wrong with you.
Some people deny that black people can be racist.
Post by Anthony Marsh
What you should be doing is admitting it but claiming that YOU got rid of
it.
What you should be doing is admitting that liberal solutions can only
make the racial problems in this country worse.
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by Bud
Libs love their contrived mythologies and false narratives.
So the conservative method of hard line prosecution is the answer?
Put 'em away for life for having a marijuana joint on them?
Lots of conservatives have advocated for legalization of recreational
marijuana. Bill Buckley was one of the most outspoken.
Lots of conservatives have opted for harder sentences to CONTROL the
guilty pot smokers!
Post by bigdog
Post by mainframetech
You think
THAT is the answer? Have another war on drugs and crime? It never worked
in the past. Find another answer.
If it were up to me, adults would be allowed to put any substance into
their bodies they choose, keeping of course laws prohibiting operating
vehicles while under the influence of those substances. Any adult who
chooses to use recreational drugs would accept the consequences of that
decision and would not be entitled to a dime of government assistance to
get them sober.
Which would lead to expanding the problem we have now.
The problem would be limited to those users and those close to them. It
wouldn't require my tax dollars for the police to arrest them, prosecutors
to prosecute them, and the state to incarcerate them. The war on drugs has
been a complete failure just as alcohol prohibition was but we're so dumb
as a society we think we can get rid of things by making them illegal.
Drug abuse is no different than any other self destructive behavior such
as tobacco use or eating to the point of obesity. We encourage people to
abandon those practices but we don't criminalize them and it is the person
who engages in those practices that suffers the consequences. We should
deal with drug use the same way. If you choose to do, you will be the one
to suffer the consequences.
Post by mainframetech
That addicts
on heavier drugs will go around stealing anything they can get their hands
on, and doing anything to get money for the next fix. The crime rate
would soar.
The reason drugs are so expensive is because they are illegal which is
what forces people to steal to pay for their habits. They would be much
cheaper if they were legalized.
While they are not legal and are sold so cheaply (yes, they are cheap
for what they get for $5, $10, $20 and more) they will be sold on the
street. The current opioid crisis from prescriptions goes to street
heroin when the prescriptions get too costly. The street stuff is much
cheaper.
Post by bigdog
Post by mainframetech
Post by bigdog
The most intelligent drug policy we ever had was "just say no". It's a lot
cheaper than treating drug abuse as a crime.
OK as far as it goes. But the addict needs psychotherapy too, to get
at the reasons to get into drugs and stay there. If real life is nowhere
as pleasant as the drug high, then you have to combat that problem.
The addict creates the problem when he chooses to use recreational drug.
NO! The problem is there when they decide to try drugs rather than
'just say no'.

Chris
bigdog
2018-06-15 21:10:13 UTC
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Post by mainframetech
Post by bigdog
Post by mainframetech
Post by bigdog
Post by mainframetech
Post by Bud
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by Bud
Post by mainframetech
Post by bigdog
In another thread which had digressed to a discussion of alleged Russian
hacking of the 2016 election, one of our most prolific posters made the
"Stay tuned to MSNBC. New documents are being released that show how the
RUSSIANS tried to hack the computers. Phising.
They also wanted to modify the voter roles to take off all black voters."
Can you imagine if they had been successful and no black voters were
allowed to vote. Gee, that wouldn't have been too suspicious.
However, SOME of the black voters could have been stopped, making it
easier to fool enough people to sway the election. The GOP tries to stop
black voters in every election and they use many tricks to do it.
Chris
Like those "WHITE ONLY" signs on the polling booths.
Not funny. And not accurate. They never needed to have the WHITES ONLY
sign at polling booths, as blacks knew to stay away and were threatened
and killed before they even got close.
We solved that problem. Now the biggest threat to a black man is another
black man.
No, not really. The biggest threat to a black man is the police.
And not just because they shoot unarmed black men, but because when the
citizenry gets up in arms about murders and other crimes in their
neighborhood, the police who are being pressured to find the criminals
will sometimes find a black man and bring him in with fake evidence, and
prosecutors who are under the same pressure to stop the criminals will
prosecute that black man who was completely innocent and put him away for
many years in prison. Everyone is happy except the black man that was
used as the 'patsy'.
White people get wrongly convicted too. Ever see the documentary The Thin
Blue Line?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Thin_Blue_Line_(1988_film)
Post by mainframetech
I don't say black men don't commit crimes, but there are times when
they are picked out and used to calm the noisy public and sent away for
nothing. The statistics of those that have been released when better
https://www.cnn.com/2017/03/07/politics/blacks-wrongful-convictions-study/index.html
https://www.innocenceproject.org/african-american-wrongful-convictions-throughout-history/
People of all colors get wrongly convicted and it is rarely due to
prosecutors deliberately trying to railroad someone they know to be
innocent.
Amazing how you can read the minds of so many prosecutors from a
distance!
It shouldn't be so amazing to you since you tell us you can read Oswald's
mind from beyond the grave. You tell us he only bought his rifle to have
his picture taken with it and never intended to shoot anybody with it. Did
your crystal ball or your Ouija board tell you that?
No, I use real evidence. Like when Oswald bought his rifle from
Klein's store they offered him ammunition to go with the rifle and he
passed it up, suggesting that he wasn't intending to kill anyone with the
rifle.
We know Oswald didn't buy ammo from Klein's. You pretended to be a mind reader to decide why.
Post by mainframetech
As well, evidence was clear that he didn't practice with the rifle
which also suggested he didn't want the rifle for killing.
No, there is no direct evidence he practiced with the rifle which is not evidence he didn't practice with the rifle. I'm not surprised you don't understand the difference.
Post by mainframetech
In fact, he
wanted the rifle for what he used it for, which was to have his photo
taken with it.
So again you pretend to read his mind.
Post by mainframetech
It would suggest to certain rebellious types that he was a
rebel also and rough and ready for action. That last is my opinion from
the evidence that he didn't intend to kill with the rifle. Evidence also
suggests that he took the same negligent care of the rifle as when he was
in the service and was often flagged for a dirty weapon.
More assumptions. You don't have any idea why Oswald did what he did. You are just guessing.
Post by mainframetech
Post by bigdog
Post by mainframetech
Post by bigdog
Post by mainframetech
Post by Bud
Post by Anthony Marsh
If you continually deny that there was ever racism in our country there is
something seriously wrong with you.
Some people deny that black people can be racist.
Post by Anthony Marsh
What you should be doing is admitting it but claiming that YOU got rid of
it.
What you should be doing is admitting that liberal solutions can only
make the racial problems in this country worse.
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by Bud
Libs love their contrived mythologies and false narratives.
So the conservative method of hard line prosecution is the answer?
Put 'em away for life for having a marijuana joint on them?
Lots of conservatives have advocated for legalization of recreational
marijuana. Bill Buckley was one of the most outspoken.
Lots of conservatives have opted for harder sentences to CONTROL the
guilty pot smokers!
Post by bigdog
Post by mainframetech
You think
THAT is the answer? Have another war on drugs and crime? It never worked
in the past. Find another answer.
If it were up to me, adults would be allowed to put any substance into
their bodies they choose, keeping of course laws prohibiting operating
vehicles while under the influence of those substances. Any adult who
chooses to use recreational drugs would accept the consequences of that
decision and would not be entitled to a dime of government assistance to
get them sober.
Which would lead to expanding the problem we have now.
The problem would be limited to those users and those close to them. It
wouldn't require my tax dollars for the police to arrest them, prosecutors
to prosecute them, and the state to incarcerate them. The war on drugs has
been a complete failure just as alcohol prohibition was but we're so dumb
as a society we think we can get rid of things by making them illegal.
Drug abuse is no different than any other self destructive behavior such
as tobacco use or eating to the point of obesity. We encourage people to
abandon those practices but we don't criminalize them and it is the person
who engages in those practices that suffers the consequences. We should
deal with drug use the same way. If you choose to do, you will be the one
to suffer the consequences.
Post by mainframetech
That addicts
on heavier drugs will go around stealing anything they can get their hands
on, and doing anything to get money for the next fix. The crime rate
would soar.
The reason drugs are so expensive is because they are illegal which is
what forces people to steal to pay for their habits. They would be much
cheaper if they were legalized.
While they are not legal and are sold so cheaply (yes, they are cheap
for what they get for $5, $10, $20 and more) they will be sold on the
street. The current opioid crisis from prescriptions goes to street
heroin when the prescriptions get too costly. The street stuff is much
cheaper.
How do you know that?
Post by mainframetech
Post by bigdog
Post by mainframetech
Post by bigdog
The most intelligent drug policy we ever had was "just say no". It's a lot
cheaper than treating drug abuse as a crime.
OK as far as it goes. But the addict needs psychotherapy too, to get
at the reasons to get into drugs and stay there. If real life is nowhere
as pleasant as the drug high, then you have to combat that problem.
The addict creates the problem when he chooses to use recreational drug.
NO! The problem is there when they decide to try drugs rather than
'just say no'.
I thought that's what I just said.
Bud
2018-06-14 19:23:45 UTC
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Raw Message
Post by bigdog
Post by mainframetech
Post by bigdog
Post by mainframetech
Post by Bud
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by Bud
Post by mainframetech
Post by bigdog
In another thread which had digressed to a discussion of alleged Russian
hacking of the 2016 election, one of our most prolific posters made the
"Stay tuned to MSNBC. New documents are being released that show how the
RUSSIANS tried to hack the computers. Phising.
They also wanted to modify the voter roles to take off all black voters."
Can you imagine if they had been successful and no black voters were
allowed to vote. Gee, that wouldn't have been too suspicious.
However, SOME of the black voters could have been stopped, making it
easier to fool enough people to sway the election. The GOP tries to stop
black voters in every election and they use many tricks to do it.
Chris
Like those "WHITE ONLY" signs on the polling booths.
Not funny. And not accurate. They never needed to have the WHITES ONLY
sign at polling booths, as blacks knew to stay away and were threatened
and killed before they even got close.
We solved that problem. Now the biggest threat to a black man is another
black man.
No, not really. The biggest threat to a black man is the police.
And not just because they shoot unarmed black men, but because when the
citizenry gets up in arms about murders and other crimes in their
neighborhood, the police who are being pressured to find the criminals
will sometimes find a black man and bring him in with fake evidence, and
prosecutors who are under the same pressure to stop the criminals will
prosecute that black man who was completely innocent and put him away for
many years in prison. Everyone is happy except the black man that was
used as the 'patsy'.
White people get wrongly convicted too. Ever see the documentary The Thin
Blue Line?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Thin_Blue_Line_(1988_film)
Post by mainframetech
I don't say black men don't commit crimes, but there are times when
they are picked out and used to calm the noisy public and sent away for
nothing. The statistics of those that have been released when better
https://www.cnn.com/2017/03/07/politics/blacks-wrongful-convictions-study/index.html
https://www.innocenceproject.org/african-american-wrongful-convictions-throughout-history/
People of all colors get wrongly convicted and it is rarely due to
prosecutors deliberately trying to railroad someone they know to be
innocent.
Amazing how you can read the minds of so many prosecutors from a
distance!
It shouldn't be so amazing to you since you tell us you can read Oswald's
mind from beyond the grave. You tell us he only bought his rifle to have
his picture taken with it and never intended to shoot anybody with it. Did
your crystal ball or your Ouija board tell you that?
Post by mainframetech
Post by bigdog
Post by mainframetech
Post by Bud
Post by Anthony Marsh
If you continually deny that there was ever racism in our country there is
something seriously wrong with you.
Some people deny that black people can be racist.
Post by Anthony Marsh
What you should be doing is admitting it but claiming that YOU got rid of
it.
What you should be doing is admitting that liberal solutions can only
make the racial problems in this country worse.
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by Bud
Libs love their contrived mythologies and false narratives.
So the conservative method of hard line prosecution is the answer?
Put 'em away for life for having a marijuana joint on them?
Lots of conservatives have advocated for legalization of recreational
marijuana. Bill Buckley was one of the most outspoken.
Lots of conservatives have opted for harder sentences to CONTROL the
guilty pot smokers!
Post by bigdog
Post by mainframetech
You think
THAT is the answer? Have another war on drugs and crime? It never worked
in the past. Find another answer.
If it were up to me, adults would be allowed to put any substance into
their bodies they choose, keeping of course laws prohibiting operating
vehicles while under the influence of those substances. Any adult who
chooses to use recreational drugs would accept the consequences of that
decision and would not be entitled to a dime of government assistance to
get them sober.
Which would lead to expanding the problem we have now.
The problem would be limited to those users and those close to them. It
wouldn't require my tax dollars for the police to arrest them, prosecutors
to prosecute them, and the state to incarcerate them. The war on drugs has
been a complete failure just as alcohol prohibition was but we're so dumb
as a society we think we can get rid of things by making them illegal.
Drug abuse is no different than any other self destructive behavior such
as tobacco use or eating to the point of obesity. We encourage people to
abandon those practices but we don't criminalize them and it is the person
who engages in those practices that suffers the consequences. We should
deal with drug use the same way. If you choose to do, you will be the one
to suffer the consequences.
I`m inclined to agree with this, but just this morning my sister told me
a story about what happened on her block (residential rowhouses) the other
night. In the middle of the night she was up and heard brakes lock up
followed by a crash. She was about a half block away, she grabbed her
phone and goes to the scene of the accident, expecting more neighbors to
come out because it was so loud. She goes down and sees a cars slammed
into the back of a pickup truck. So she is standing there looking and
realizes there is someone standing next to her. Some guy high as a kite,
swaying back and forth, she didn`t think he was drunk. My sister calls the
cops and tells them to send an ambulance because the guy doesn`t look
good. She takes photos of the car, complete with license plate, and the
guy. As soon as the ambulance pulls up, the guy jumps in the car, pulls
out leaving his bumper and flies down the street leaving car parts as he
races away at a high speed. Cops come soon after, they aren`t the least
bit interested in the photos she has. They make no attempt to search for
the guy, nothing. Apathy is rampant when it comes to junkies any more,
they have to plow into a crosswalk full of schoolkids before they are
taken seriously. Anyway, like a said, as much as I would be inclined to
legalize drugs, the ramifications are not only felt by the junkie and
those closest to him.
Post by bigdog
Post by mainframetech
That addicts
on heavier drugs will go around stealing anything they can get their hands
on, and doing anything to get money for the next fix. The crime rate
would soar.
The reason drugs are so expensive is because they are illegal which is
what forces people to steal to pay for their habits. They would be much
cheaper if they were legalized.
Post by mainframetech
Post by bigdog
The most intelligent drug policy we ever had was "just say no". It's a lot
cheaper than treating drug abuse as a crime.
OK as far as it goes. But the addict needs psychotherapy too, to get
at the reasons to get into drugs and stay there. If real life is nowhere
as pleasant as the drug high, then you have to combat that problem.
The addict creates the problem when he chooses to use recreational drug.
John McAdams
2018-06-14 19:26:31 UTC
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Post by Bud
Post by bigdog
The problem would be limited to those users and those close to them. It
wouldn't require my tax dollars for the police to arrest them, prosecutors
to prosecute them, and the state to incarcerate them. The war on drugs has
been a complete failure just as alcohol prohibition was but we're so dumb
as a society we think we can get rid of things by making them illegal.
Drug abuse is no different than any other self destructive behavior such
as tobacco use or eating to the point of obesity. We encourage people to
abandon those practices but we don't criminalize them and it is the person
who engages in those practices that suffers the consequences. We should
deal with drug use the same way. If you choose to do, you will be the one
to suffer the consequences.
I`m inclined to agree with this, but just this morning my sister told me
a story about what happened on her block (residential rowhouses) the other
night. In the middle of the night she was up and heard brakes lock up
followed by a crash. She was about a half block away, she grabbed her
phone and goes to the scene of the accident, expecting more neighbors to
come out because it was so loud. She goes down and sees a cars slammed
into the back of a pickup truck. So she is standing there looking and
realizes there is someone standing next to her. Some guy high as a kite,
swaying back and forth, she didn`t think he was drunk. My sister calls the
cops and tells them to send an ambulance because the guy doesn`t look
good. She takes photos of the car, complete with license plate, and the
guy. As soon as the ambulance pulls up, the guy jumps in the car, pulls
out leaving his bumper and flies down the street leaving car parts as he
races away at a high speed. Cops come soon after, they aren`t the least
bit interested in the photos she has. They make no attempt to search for
the guy, nothing. Apathy is rampant when it comes to junkies any more,
they have to plow into a crosswalk full of schoolkids before they are
taken seriously. Anyway, like a said, as much as I would be inclined to
legalize drugs, the ramifications are not only felt by the junkie and
those closest to him.
The issue, however, is how much making drugs illegal actually reduces
usage. Or in technical terms "elasticity of demand."

If druggies are going to get their fix regardless, stealing the money
if necessary, spending the rent money if necessary, then making drugs
illegal doesn't help much.

.John
-----------------------
http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/home.htm
mainframetech
2018-06-15 21:18:33 UTC
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Post by John McAdams
Post by Bud
Post by bigdog
The problem would be limited to those users and those close to them. It
wouldn't require my tax dollars for the police to arrest them, prosecutors
to prosecute them, and the state to incarcerate them. The war on drugs has
been a complete failure just as alcohol prohibition was but we're so dumb
as a society we think we can get rid of things by making them illegal.
Drug abuse is no different than any other self destructive behavior such
as tobacco use or eating to the point of obesity. We encourage people to
abandon those practices but we don't criminalize them and it is the person
who engages in those practices that suffers the consequences. We should
deal with drug use the same way. If you choose to do, you will be the one
to suffer the consequences.
I`m inclined to agree with this, but just this morning my sister told me
a story about what happened on her block (residential rowhouses) the other
night. In the middle of the night she was up and heard brakes lock up
followed by a crash. She was about a half block away, she grabbed her
phone and goes to the scene of the accident, expecting more neighbors to
come out because it was so loud. She goes down and sees a cars slammed
into the back of a pickup truck. So she is standing there looking and
realizes there is someone standing next to her. Some guy high as a kite,
swaying back and forth, she didn`t think he was drunk. My sister calls the
cops and tells them to send an ambulance because the guy doesn`t look
good. She takes photos of the car, complete with license plate, and the
guy. As soon as the ambulance pulls up, the guy jumps in the car, pulls
out leaving his bumper and flies down the street leaving car parts as he
races away at a high speed. Cops come soon after, they aren`t the least
bit interested in the photos she has. They make no attempt to search for
the guy, nothing. Apathy is rampant when it comes to junkies any more,
they have to plow into a crosswalk full of schoolkids before they are
taken seriously. Anyway, like a said, as much as I would be inclined to
legalize drugs, the ramifications are not only felt by the junkie and
those closest to him.
The issue, however, is how much making drugs illegal actually reduces
usage. Or in technical terms "elasticity of demand."
If druggies are going to get their fix regardless, stealing the money
if necessary, spending the rent money if necessary, then making drugs
illegal doesn't help much.
.John
-----------------------
http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/home.htm
Generally true. Chris
Anthony Marsh
2018-06-11 01:47:37 UTC
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Post by mainframetech
Post by Bud
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by Bud
Post by mainframetech
Post by bigdog
In another thread which had digressed to a discussion of alleged Russian
hacking of the 2016 election, one of our most prolific posters made the
"Stay tuned to MSNBC. New documents are being released that show how the
RUSSIANS tried to hack the computers. Phising.
They also wanted to modify the voter roles to take off all black voters."
Can you imagine if they had been successful and no black voters were
allowed to vote. Gee, that wouldn't have been too suspicious.
However, SOME of the black voters could have been stopped, making it
easier to fool enough people to sway the election. The GOP tries to stop
black voters in every election and they use many tricks to do it.
Chris
Like those "WHITE ONLY" signs on the polling booths.
Not funny. And not accurate. They never needed to have the WHITES ONLY
sign at polling booths, as blacks knew to stay away and were threatened
and killed before they even got close.
We solved that problem. Now the biggest threat to a black man is another
black man.
No, not really. The biggest threat to a black man is the police.
And not just because they shoot unarmed black men, but because when the
citizenry gets up in arms about murders and other crimes in their
neighborhood, the police who are being pressured to find the criminals
will sometimes find a black man and bring him in with fake evidence, and
prosecutors who are under the same pressure to stop the criminals will
prosecute that black man who was completely innocent and put him away for
many years in prison. Everyone is happy except the black man that was
used as the 'patsy'.
I don't say black men don't commit crimes, but there are times when
they are picked out and used to calm the noisy public and sent away for
nothing. The statistics of those that have been released when better
https://www.cnn.com/2017/03/07/politics/blacks-wrongful-convictions-study/index.html
https://www.innocenceproject.org/african-american-wrongful-convictions-throughout-history/
Post by Bud
Post by Anthony Marsh
If you continually deny that there was ever racism in our country there is
something seriously wrong with you.
Some people deny that black people can be racist.
Post by Anthony Marsh
What you should be doing is admitting it but claiming that YOU got rid of
it.
What you should be doing is admitting that liberal solutions can only
make the racial problems in this country worse.
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by Bud
Libs love their contrived mythologies and false narratives.
So the conservative method of hard line prosecution is the answer?
Put 'em away for life for having a marijuana joint on them? You think
Only if they're Black. It is not applied to their KKK buddies.
Post by mainframetech
THAT is the answer? Have another war on drugs and crime? It never worked
in the past. Find another answer.
Chris
John McAdams
2018-06-11 01:50:19 UTC
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Post by mainframetech
So the conservative method of hard line prosecution is the answer?
Put 'em away for life for having a marijuana joint on them?
That's not the policy. In Milwaukee County, of somebody is found with
a joint on them, it's a municipal citation. Doesn't even get to the
DAs office downtown.

.John
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http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/home.htm
mainframetech
2018-06-12 21:54:46 UTC
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Post by John McAdams
Post by mainframetech
So the conservative method of hard line prosecution is the answer?
Put 'em away for life for having a marijuana joint on them?
That's not the policy. In Milwaukee County, of somebody is found with
a joint on them, it's a municipal citation. Doesn't even get to the
DAs office downtown.
.John
-----------------------
http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/home.htm
That's the case in more and more places, but the conservatives have
still clearly stated their interest in going harder on those guilty of
drug offenses.

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/10/24/16534812/trump-sessions-war-on-drugs

And in Milwaukee:

http://fox6now.com/2017/12/18/we-can-make-america-safe-again-ag-sessions-addresses-efforts-to-combat-violent-crime/

Chris
Anthony Marsh
2018-06-10 22:51:12 UTC
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Raw Message
Post by Bud
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by Bud
Post by mainframetech
Post by bigdog
In another thread which had digressed to a discussion of alleged Russian
hacking of the 2016 election, one of our most prolific posters made the
"Stay tuned to MSNBC. New documents are being released that show how the
RUSSIANS tried to hack the computers. Phising.
They also wanted to modify the voter roles to take off all black voters."
Can you imagine if they had been successful and no black voters were
allowed to vote. Gee, that wouldn't have been too suspicious.
However, SOME of the black voters could have been stopped, making it
easier to fool enough people to sway the election. The GOP tries to stop
black voters in every election and they use many tricks to do it.
Chris
Like those "WHITE ONLY" signs on the polling booths.
Not funny. And not accurate. They never needed to have the WHITES ONLY
sign at polling booths, as blacks knew to stay away and were threatened
and killed before they even got close.
We solved that problem. Now the biggest threat to a black man is another
black man.
What? Threat to what? To you?
What kind of racist attack is that? KInda vague.
Post by Bud
Post by Anthony Marsh
If you continually deny that there was ever racism in our country there is
something seriously wrong with you.
Some people deny that black people can be racist.
Technically it's true. They can and sometimes are prejudiced, but Racism
is Whites do to Blacks. Are WHites ever racist against other Whites?
Post by Bud
Post by Anthony Marsh
What you should be doing is admitting it but claiming that YOU got rid of
it.
What you should be doing is admitting that liberal solutions can only
make the racial problems in this country worse.
Liberal solutions sometimes fail, but that is largely due to trying to
do more than the racists will allow.
Post by Bud
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by Bud
Libs love their contrived mythologies and false narratives.
Bud
2018-06-11 14:24:58 UTC
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Raw Message
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by Bud
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by Bud
Post by mainframetech
Post by bigdog
In another thread which had digressed to a discussion of alleged Russian
hacking of the 2016 election, one of our most prolific posters made the
"Stay tuned to MSNBC. New documents are being released that show how the
RUSSIANS tried to hack the computers. Phising.
They also wanted to modify the voter roles to take off all black voters."
Can you imagine if they had been successful and no black voters were
allowed to vote. Gee, that wouldn't have been too suspicious.
However, SOME of the black voters could have been stopped, making it
easier to fool enough people to sway the election. The GOP tries to stop
black voters in every election and they use many tricks to do it.
Chris
Like those "WHITE ONLY" signs on the polling booths.
Not funny. And not accurate. They never needed to have the WHITES ONLY
sign at polling booths, as blacks knew to stay away and were threatened
and killed before they even got close.
We solved that problem. Now the biggest threat to a black man is another
black man.
What?
Were the words I used too big for you?
Post by Anthony Marsh
Threat to what?
To who.
Post by Anthony Marsh
To you?
Did I say me?
Post by Anthony Marsh
What kind of racist attack is that?
Facts aren`t racist.
Post by Anthony Marsh
KInda vague.
Let me be more specific. Over 90 percent of all black homicides were
committed by other blacks.
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by Bud
Post by Anthony Marsh
If you continually deny that there was ever racism in our country there is
something seriously wrong with you.
Some people deny that black people can be racist.
Technically it's true.
I know it is true that some people deny that black people can be racist.

What isn`t true is that black people can`t be racist.
Post by Anthony Marsh
They can and sometimes are prejudiced, but Racism
is Whites do to Blacks. Are WHites ever racist against other Whites?
Post by Bud
Post by Anthony Marsh
What you should be doing is admitting it but claiming that YOU got rid of
it.
What you should be doing is admitting that liberal solutions can only
make the racial problems in this country worse.
Liberal solutions sometimes fail, but that is largely due to trying to
do more than the racists will allow.
I wouldn`t expect a liberal to take responsibility for the results for
their bad ideas and bad policies. Just blame the Klan.
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by Bud
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by Bud
Libs love their contrived mythologies and false narratives.
Anthony Marsh
2018-06-12 02:42:23 UTC
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Raw Message
Post by Bud
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by Bud
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by Bud
Post by mainframetech
Post by bigdog
In another thread which had digressed to a discussion of alleged Russian
hacking of the 2016 election, one of our most prolific posters made the
"Stay tuned to MSNBC. New documents are being released that show how the
RUSSIANS tried to hack the computers. Phising.
They also wanted to modify the voter roles to take off all black voters."
Can you imagine if they had been successful and no black voters were
allowed to vote. Gee, that wouldn't have been too suspicious.
However, SOME of the black voters could have been stopped, making it
easier to fool enough people to sway the election. The GOP tries to stop
black voters in every election and they use many tricks to do it.
Chris
Like those "WHITE ONLY" signs on the polling booths.
Not funny. And not accurate. They never needed to have the WHITES ONLY
sign at polling booths, as blacks knew to stay away and were threatened
and killed before they even got close.
We solved that problem. Now the biggest threat to a black man is another
black man.
What?
Were the words I used too big for you?
Post by Anthony Marsh
Threat to what?
To who.
Post by Anthony Marsh
To you?
Did I say me?
Post by Anthony Marsh
What kind of racist attack is that?
Facts aren`t racist.
Post by Anthony Marsh
KInda vague.
Let me be more specific. Over 90 percent of all black homicides were
committed by other blacks.
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by Bud
Post by Anthony Marsh
If you continually deny that there was ever racism in our country there is
something seriously wrong with you.
Some people deny that black people can be racist.
Technically it's true.
I know it is true that some people deny that black people can be racist.
What isn`t true is that black people can`t be racist.
Learn English. Racism is what WHITE people do to BLACK people.
Post by Bud
Post by Anthony Marsh
They can and sometimes are prejudiced, but Racism
is Whites do to Blacks. Are WHites ever racist against other Whites?
Post by Bud
Post by Anthony Marsh
What you should be doing is admitting it but claiming that YOU got rid of
it.
What you should be doing is admitting that liberal solutions can only
make the racial problems in this country worse.
Liberal solutions sometimes fail, but that is largely due to trying to
do more than the racists will allow.
I wouldn`t expect a liberal to take responsibility for the results for
their bad ideas and bad policies. Just blame the Klan.
Exactly what ideas do you mean? Social Security? Medicare? Health care.
You say those are ALL bad?
Post by Bud
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by Bud
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by Bud
Libs love their contrived mythologies and false narratives.
claviger
2018-06-12 21:28:07 UTC
Permalink
Raw Message
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by Bud
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by Bud
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by Bud
Post by mainframetech
Post by bigdog
In another thread which had digressed to a discussion of alleged Russian
hacking of the 2016 election, one of our most prolific posters made the
"Stay tuned to MSNBC. New documents are being released that show how the
RUSSIANS tried to hack the computers. Phising.
They also wanted to modify the voter roles to take off all black voters."
Can you imagine if they had been successful and no black voters were
allowed to vote. Gee, that wouldn't have been too suspicious.
However, SOME of the black voters could have been stopped, making it
easier to fool enough people to sway the election. The GOP tries to stop
black voters in every election and they use many tricks to do it.
Chris
Like those "WHITE ONLY" signs on the polling booths.
Not funny. And not accurate. They never needed to have the WHITES ONLY
sign at polling booths, as blacks knew to stay away and were threatened
and killed before they even got close.
We solved that problem. Now the biggest threat to a black man is another
black man.
What?
Were the words I used too big for you?
Post by Anthony Marsh
Threat to what?
To who.
Post by Anthony Marsh
To you?
Did I say me?
Post by Anthony Marsh
What kind of racist attack is that?
Facts aren`t racist.
Post by Anthony Marsh
KInda vague.
Let me be more specific. Over 90 percent of all black homicides were
committed by other blacks.
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by Bud
Post by Anthony Marsh
If you continually deny that there was ever racism in our country there is
something seriously wrong with you.
Some people deny that black people can be racist.
Technically it's true.
I know it is true that some people deny that black people can be racist.
What isn`t true is that black people can`t be racist.
Learn English. Racism is what WHITE people do to BLACK people.
Racism is part of the human condition. Black people are Human Beings too.
All races on the Planet have a tribal instinct. Unless you believe they are all
Black zombies. Is that what you think?
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by Bud
Post by Anthony Marsh
They can and sometimes are prejudiced, but Racism
is Whites do to Blacks. Are WHites ever racist against other Whites?
Post by Bud
Post by Anthony Marsh
What you should be doing is admitting it but claiming that YOU got rid of
it.
What you should be doing is admitting that liberal solutions can only
make the racial problems in this country worse.
Liberal solutions sometimes fail, but that is largely due to trying to
do more than the racists will allow.
I wouldn`t expect a liberal to take responsibility for the results for
their bad ideas and bad policies. Just blame the Klan.
Exactly what ideas do you mean? Social Security? Medicare? Health care.
You say those are ALL bad?
Post by Bud
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by Bud
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by Bud
Libs love their contrived mythologies and false narratives.
A Black guy I know with a college degree who graduated with honors
tells me the worst thing since Slavery is the Liberal welfare system in
DC that is destroying Black families. He doesn't trust White Liberals.
He says Jobs free Black people, but Welfare keeps them in bondage.
mainframetech
2018-06-13 03:13:50 UTC
Permalink
Raw Message
Post by claviger
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by Bud
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by Bud
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by Bud
Post by mainframetech
Post by bigdog
In another thread which had digressed to a discussion of alleged Russian
hacking of the 2016 election, one of our most prolific posters made the
"Stay tuned to MSNBC. New documents are being released that show how the
RUSSIANS tried to hack the computers. Phising.
They also wanted to modify the voter roles to take off all black voters."
Can you imagine if they had been successful and no black voters were
allowed to vote. Gee, that wouldn't have been too suspicious.
However, SOME of the black voters could have been stopped, making it
easier to fool enough people to sway the election. The GOP tries to stop
black voters in every election and they use many tricks to do it.
Chris
Like those "WHITE ONLY" signs on the polling booths.
Not funny. And not accurate. They never needed to have the WHITES ONLY
sign at polling booths, as blacks knew to stay away and were threatened
and killed before they even got close.
We solved that problem. Now the biggest threat to a black man is another
black man.
What?
Were the words I used too big for you?
Post by Anthony Marsh
Threat to what?
To who.
Post by Anthony Marsh
To you?
Did I say me?
Post by Anthony Marsh
What kind of racist attack is that?
Facts aren`t racist.
Post by Anthony Marsh
KInda vague.
Let me be more specific. Over 90 percent of all black homicides were
committed by other blacks.
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by Bud
Post by Anthony Marsh
If you continually deny that there was ever racism in our country there is
something seriously wrong with you.
Some people deny that black people can be racist.
Technically it's true.
I know it is true that some people deny that black people can be racist.
What isn`t true is that black people can`t be racist.
Learn English. Racism is what WHITE people do to BLACK people.
Racism is part of the human condition. Black people are Human Beings too.
All races on the Planet have a tribal instinct. Unless you believe they are all
Black zombies. Is that what you think?
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by Bud
Post by Anthony Marsh
They can and sometimes are prejudiced, but Racism
is Whites do to Blacks. Are WHites ever racist against other Whites?
Post by Bud
Post by Anthony Marsh
What you should be doing is admitting it but claiming that YOU got rid of
it.
What you should be doing is admitting that liberal solutions can only
make the racial problems in this country worse.
Liberal solutions sometimes fail, but that is largely due to trying to
do more than the racists will allow.
I wouldn`t expect a liberal to take responsibility for the results for
their bad ideas and bad policies. Just blame the Klan.
Exactly what ideas do you mean? Social Security? Medicare? Health care.
You say those are ALL bad?
Post by Bud
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by Bud
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by Bud
Libs love their contrived mythologies and false narratives.
A Black guy I know with a college degree who graduated with honors
tells me the worst thing since Slavery is the Liberal welfare system in
DC that is destroying Black families. He doesn't trust White Liberals.
He says Jobs free Black people, but Welfare keeps them in bondage.
Clinton solved some of the problem by setting up workfare. But
someone let it flop later.

Chris
bigdog
2018-06-14 01:06:14 UTC
Permalink
Raw Message
Post by mainframetech
Post by claviger
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by Bud
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by Bud
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by Bud
Post by mainframetech
Post by bigdog
In another thread which had digressed to a discussion of alleged Russian
hacking of the 2016 election, one of our most prolific posters made the
"Stay tuned to MSNBC. New documents are being released that show how the
RUSSIANS tried to hack the computers. Phising.
They also wanted to modify the voter roles to take off all black voters."
Can you imagine if they had been successful and no black voters were
allowed to vote. Gee, that wouldn't have been too suspicious.
However, SOME of the black voters could have been stopped, making it
easier to fool enough people to sway the election. The GOP tries to stop
black voters in every election and they use many tricks to do it.
Chris
Like those "WHITE ONLY" signs on the polling booths.
Not funny. And not accurate. They never needed to have the WHITES ONLY
sign at polling booths, as blacks knew to stay away and were threatened
and killed before they even got close.
We solved that problem. Now the biggest threat to a black man is another
black man.
What?
Were the words I used too big for you?
Post by Anthony Marsh
Threat to what?
To who.
Post by Anthony Marsh
To you?
Did I say me?
Post by Anthony Marsh
What kind of racist attack is that?
Facts aren`t racist.
Post by Anthony Marsh
KInda vague.
Let me be more specific. Over 90 percent of all black homicides were
committed by other blacks.
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by Bud
Post by Anthony Marsh
If you continually deny that there was ever racism in our country there is
something seriously wrong with you.
Some people deny that black people can be racist.
Technically it's true.
I know it is true that some people deny that black people can be racist.
What isn`t true is that black people can`t be racist.
Learn English. Racism is what WHITE people do to BLACK people.
Racism is part of the human condition. Black people are Human Beings too.
All races on the Planet have a tribal instinct. Unless you believe they are all
Black zombies. Is that what you think?
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by Bud
Post by Anthony Marsh
They can and sometimes are prejudiced, but Racism
is Whites do to Blacks. Are WHites ever racist against other Whites?
Post by Bud
Post by Anthony Marsh
What you should be doing is admitting it but claiming that YOU got rid of
it.
What you should be doing is admitting that liberal solutions can only
make the racial problems in this country worse.
Liberal solutions sometimes fail, but that is largely due to trying to
do more than the racists will allow.
I wouldn`t expect a liberal to take responsibility for the results for
their bad ideas and bad policies. Just blame the Klan.
Exactly what ideas do you mean? Social Security? Medicare? Health care.
You say those are ALL bad?
Post by Bud
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by Bud
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by Bud
Libs love their contrived mythologies and false narratives.
A Black guy I know with a college degree who graduated with honors
tells me the worst thing since Slavery is the Liberal welfare system in
DC that is destroying Black families. He doesn't trust White Liberals.
He says Jobs free Black people, but Welfare keeps them in bondage.
Clinton solved some of the problem by setting up workfare. But
someone let it flop later.
Clinton had that jammed up his nose by the Republican Congress. He pivoted
after the Democrats' crushing defeat in the 1994 midterm which forced him
to moderate his liberal agenda. He figured if he couldn't beat them he
would join them. Kind of like what Kevin Durant did a couple years ago.
mainframetech
2018-06-15 21:19:10 UTC
Permalink
Raw Message
Post by bigdog
Post by mainframetech
Post by claviger
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by Bud
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by Bud
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by Bud
Post by mainframetech
Post by bigdog
In another thread which had digressed to a discussion of alleged Russian
hacking of the 2016 election, one of our most prolific posters made the
"Stay tuned to MSNBC. New documents are being released that show how the
RUSSIANS tried to hack the computers. Phising.
They also wanted to modify the voter roles to take off all black voters."
Can you imagine if they had been successful and no black voters were
allowed to vote. Gee, that wouldn't have been too suspicious.
However, SOME of the black voters could have been stopped, making it
easier to fool enough people to sway the election. The GOP tries to stop
black voters in every election and they use many tricks to do it.
Chris
Like those "WHITE ONLY" signs on the polling booths.
Not funny. And not accurate. They never needed to have the WHITES ONLY
sign at polling booths, as blacks knew to stay away and were threatened
and killed before they even got close.
We solved that problem. Now the biggest threat to a black man is another
black man.
What?
Were the words I used too big for you?
Post by Anthony Marsh
Threat to what?
To who.
Post by Anthony Marsh
To you?
Did I say me?
Post by Anthony Marsh
What kind of racist attack is that?
Facts aren`t racist.
Post by Anthony Marsh
KInda vague.
Let me be more specific. Over 90 percent of all black homicides were
committed by other blacks.
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by Bud
Post by Anthony Marsh
If you continually deny that there was ever racism in our country there is
something seriously wrong with you.
Some people deny that black people can be racist.
Technically it's true.
I know it is true that some people deny that black people can be racist.
What isn`t true is that black people can`t be racist.
Learn English. Racism is what WHITE people do to BLACK people.
Racism is part of the human condition. Black people are Human Beings too.
All races on the Planet have a tribal instinct. Unless you believe they are all
Black zombies. Is that what you think?
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by Bud
Post by Anthony Marsh
They can and sometimes are prejudiced, but Racism
is Whites do to Blacks. Are WHites ever racist against other Whites?
Post by Bud
Post by Anthony Marsh
What you should be doing is admitting it but claiming that YOU got rid of
it.
What you should be doing is admitting that liberal solutions can only
make the racial problems in this country worse.
Liberal solutions sometimes fail, but that is largely due to trying to
do more than the racists will allow.
I wouldn`t expect a liberal to take responsibility for the results for
their bad ideas and bad policies. Just blame the Klan.
Exactly what ideas do you mean? Social Security? Medicare? Health care.
You say those are ALL bad?
Post by Bud
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by Bud
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by Bud
Libs love their contrived mythologies and false narratives.
A Black guy I know with a college degree who graduated with honors
tells me the worst thing since Slavery is the Liberal welfare system in
DC that is destroying Black families. He doesn't trust White Liberals.
He says Jobs free Black people, but Welfare keeps them in bondage.
Clinton solved some of the problem by setting up workfare. But
someone let it flop later.
Clinton had that jammed up his nose by the Republican Congress. He pivoted
after the Democrats' crushing defeat in the 1994 midterm which forced him
to moderate his liberal agenda. He figured if he couldn't beat them he
would join them. Kind of like what Kevin Durant did a couple years ago.
If the Republicans sent it through, Clinton Signed it. They couldn't
force him to sign something he didn't believe in.

Chris
bigdog
2018-06-16 21:03:17 UTC
Permalink
Raw Message
Post by mainframetech
Post by bigdog
Post by mainframetech
Post by claviger
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by Bud
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by Bud
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by Bud
Post by mainframetech
Post by bigdog
In another thread which had digressed to a discussion of alleged Russian
hacking of the 2016 election, one of our most prolific posters made the
"Stay tuned to MSNBC. New documents are being released that show how the
RUSSIANS tried to hack the computers. Phising.
They also wanted to modify the voter roles to take off all black voters."
Can you imagine if they had been successful and no black voters were
allowed to vote. Gee, that wouldn't have been too suspicious.
However, SOME of the black voters could have been stopped, making it
easier to fool enough people to sway the election. The GOP tries to stop
black voters in every election and they use many tricks to do it.
Chris
Like those "WHITE ONLY" signs on the polling booths.
Not funny. And not accurate. They never needed to have the WHITES ONLY
sign at polling booths, as blacks knew to stay away and were threatened
and killed before they even got close.
We solved that problem. Now the biggest threat to a black man is another
black man.
What?
Were the words I used too big for you?
Post by Anthony Marsh
Threat to what?
To who.
Post by Anthony Marsh
To you?
Did I say me?
Post by Anthony Marsh
What kind of racist attack is that?
Facts aren`t racist.
Post by Anthony Marsh
KInda vague.
Let me be more specific. Over 90 percent of all black homicides were
committed by other blacks.
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by Bud
Post by Anthony Marsh
If you continually deny that there was ever racism in our country there is
something seriously wrong with you.
Some people deny that black people can be racist.
Technically it's true.
I know it is true that some people deny that black people can be racist.
What isn`t true is that black people can`t be racist.
Learn English. Racism is what WHITE people do to BLACK people.
Racism is part of the human condition. Black people are Human Beings too.
All races on the Planet have a tribal instinct. Unless you believe they are all
Black zombies. Is that what you think?
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by Bud
Post by Anthony Marsh
They can and sometimes are prejudiced, but Racism
is Whites do to Blacks. Are WHites ever racist against other Whites?
Post by Bud
Post by Anthony Marsh
What you should be doing is admitting it but claiming that YOU got rid of
it.
What you should be doing is admitting that liberal solutions can only
make the racial problems in this country worse.
Liberal solutions sometimes fail, but that is largely due to trying to
do more than the racists will allow.
I wouldn`t expect a liberal to take responsibility for the results for
their bad ideas and bad policies. Just blame the Klan.
Exactly what ideas do you mean? Social Security? Medicare? Health care.
You say those are ALL bad?
Post by Bud
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by Bud
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by Bud
Libs love their contrived mythologies and false narratives.
A Black guy I know with a college degree who graduated with honors
tells me the worst thing since Slavery is the Liberal welfare system in
DC that is destroying Black families. He doesn't trust White Liberals.
He says Jobs free Black people, but Welfare keeps them in bondage.
Clinton solved some of the problem by setting up workfare. But
someone let it flop later.
Clinton had that jammed up his nose by the Republican Congress. He pivoted
after the Democrats' crushing defeat in the 1994 midterm which forced him
to moderate his liberal agenda. He figured if he couldn't beat them he
would join them. Kind of like what Kevin Durant did a couple years ago.
If the Republicans sent it through, Clinton Signed it. They couldn't
force him to sign something he didn't believe in.
Clinton pivoted from a leftist to a centrist following the stunning
Republican victory in the 1994 midterms. He was a pragmatic politician as
opposed to an ideologue. He saw which way the political winds were blowing
and rather than fighting it, he went with it. He stated in his next State
of the Union address following that election, "The era of big government
is over." He didn't really mean it but it showed which way he was
positioning himself.
Anthony Marsh
2018-06-24 00:12:12 UTC
Permalink
Raw Message
Post by bigdog
Post by mainframetech
Post by bigdog
Post by mainframetech
Post by claviger
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by Bud
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by Bud
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by Bud
Post by mainframetech
Post by bigdog
In another thread which had digressed to a discussion of alleged Russian
hacking of the 2016 election, one of our most prolific posters made the
"Stay tuned to MSNBC. New documents are being released that show how the
RUSSIANS tried to hack the computers. Phising.
They also wanted to modify the voter roles to take off all black voters."
Can you imagine if they had been successful and no black voters were
allowed to vote. Gee, that wouldn't have been too suspicious.
However, SOME of the black voters could have been stopped, making it
easier to fool enough people to sway the election. The GOP tries to stop
black voters in every election and they use many tricks to do it.
Chris
Like those "WHITE ONLY" signs on the polling booths.
Not funny. And not accurate. They never needed to have the WHITES ONLY
sign at polling booths, as blacks knew to stay away and were threatened
and killed before they even got close.
We solved that problem. Now the biggest threat to a black man is another
black man.
What?
Were the words I used too big for you?
Post by Anthony Marsh
Threat to what?
To who.
Post by Anthony Marsh
To you?
Did I say me?
Post by Anthony Marsh
What kind of racist attack is that?
Facts aren`t racist.
Post by Anthony Marsh
KInda vague.
Let me be more specific. Over 90 percent of all black homicides were
committed by other blacks.
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by Bud
Post by Anthony Marsh
If you continually deny that there was ever racism in our country there is
something seriously wrong with you.
Some people deny that black people can be racist.
Technically it's true.
I know it is true that some people deny that black people can be racist.
What isn`t true is that black people can`t be racist.
Learn English. Racism is what WHITE people do to BLACK people.
Racism is part of the human condition. Black people are Human Beings too.
All races on the Planet have a tribal instinct. Unless you believe they are all
Black zombies. Is that what you think?
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by Bud
Post by Anthony Marsh
They can and sometimes are prejudiced, but Racism
is Whites do to Blacks. Are WHites ever racist against other Whites?
Post by Bud
Post by Anthony Marsh
What you should be doing is admitting it but claiming that YOU got rid of
it.
What you should be doing is admitting that liberal solutions can only
make the racial problems in this country worse.
Liberal solutions sometimes fail, but that is largely due to trying to
do more than the racists will allow.
I wouldn`t expect a liberal to take responsibility for the results for
their bad ideas and bad policies. Just blame the Klan.
Exactly what ideas do you mean? Social Security? Medicare? Health care.
You say those are ALL bad?
Post by Bud
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by Bud
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by Bud
Libs love their contrived mythologies and false narratives.
A Black guy I know with a college degree who graduated with honors
tells me the worst thing since Slavery is the Liberal welfare system in
DC that is destroying Black families. He doesn't trust White Liberals.
He says Jobs free Black people, but Welfare keeps them in bondage.
Clinton solved some of the problem by setting up workfare. But
someone let it flop later.
Clinton had that jammed up his nose by the Republican Congress. He pivoted
after the Democrats' crushing defeat in the 1994 midterm which forced him
to moderate his liberal agenda. He figured if he couldn't beat them he
would join them. Kind of like what Kevin Durant did a couple years ago.
If the Republicans sent it through, Clinton Signed it. They couldn't
force him to sign something he didn't believe in.
No. Clinton vetoed a lot of bills. Maybe not a record, but more than most.

Summary of vetoes
President Regular vetoes Vetoes overridden
Total 1505 110
Bill Clinton 36 2
George W. Bush 12 4
Barack Obama 12 1
Post by bigdog
Clinton pivoted from a leftist to a centrist following the stunning
Republican victory in the 1994 midterms. He was a pragmatic politician as
opposed to an ideologue. He saw which way the political winds were blowing
and rather than fighting it, he went with it. He stated in his next State
of the Union address following that election, "The era of big government
is over." He didn't really mean it but it showed which way he was
positioning himself.
Anthony Marsh
2018-06-13 14:42:13 UTC
Permalink
Raw Message
Post by claviger
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by Bud
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by Bud
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by Bud
Post by mainframetech
Post by bigdog
In another thread which had digressed to a discussion of alleged Russian
hacking of the 2016 election, one of our most prolific posters made the
"Stay tuned to MSNBC. New documents are being released that show how the
RUSSIANS tried to hack the computers. Phising.
They also wanted to modify the voter roles to take off all black voters."
Can you imagine if they had been successful and no black voters were
allowed to vote. Gee, that wouldn't have been too suspicious.
However, SOME of the black voters could have been stopped, making it
easier to fool enough people to sway the election. The GOP tries to stop
black voters in every election and they use many tricks to do it.
Chris
Like those "WHITE ONLY" signs on the polling booths.
Not funny. And not accurate. They never needed to have the WHITES ONLY
sign at polling booths, as blacks knew to stay away and were threatened
and killed before they even got close.
We solved that problem. Now the biggest threat to a black man is another
black man.
What?
Were the words I used too big for you?
Post by Anthony Marsh
Threat to what?
To who.
Post by Anthony Marsh
To you?
Did I say me?
Post by Anthony Marsh
What kind of racist attack is that?
Facts aren`t racist.
Post by Anthony Marsh
KInda vague.
Let me be more specific. Over 90 percent of all black homicides were
committed by other blacks.
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by Bud
Post by Anthony Marsh
If you continually deny that there was ever racism in our country there is
something seriously wrong with you.
Some people deny that black people can be racist.
Technically it's true.
I know it is true that some people deny that black people can be racist.
What isn`t true is that black people can`t be racist.
Learn English. Racism is what WHITE people do to BLACK people.
Racism is part of the human condition. Black people are Human Beings too.
All races on the Planet have a tribal instinct. Unless you believe they are all
Black zombies. Is that what you think?
Non Sequitor. When you lose an argument make up a straw man.
Post by claviger
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by Bud
Post by Anthony Marsh
They can and sometimes are prejudiced, but Racism
is Whites do to Blacks. Are WHites ever racist against other Whites?
Post by Bud
Post by Anthony Marsh
What you should be doing is admitting it but claiming that YOU got rid of
it.
What you should be doing is admitting that liberal solutions can only
make the racial problems in this country worse.
Liberal solutions sometimes fail, but that is largely due to trying to
do more than the racists will allow.
I wouldn`t expect a liberal to take responsibility for the results for
their bad ideas and bad policies. Just blame the Klan.
Exactly what ideas do you mean? Social Security? Medicare? Health care.
You say those are ALL bad?
Post by Bud
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by Bud
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by Bud
Libs love their contrived mythologies and false narratives.
A Black guy I know with a college degree who graduated with honors
tells me the worst thing since Slavery is the Liberal welfare system in
DC that is destroying Black families. He doesn't trust White Liberals.
So you call him an elitist?
Post by claviger
He says Jobs free Black people, but Welfare keeps them in bondage.
Not exactly. Does he even understand why we need Welfare?
n***@gmail.com
2018-06-05 22:14:03 UTC
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Post by mainframetech
Post by bigdog
In another thread which had digressed to a discussion of alleged Russian
hacking of the 2016 election, one of our most prolific posters made the
"Stay tuned to MSNBC. New documents are being released that show how the
RUSSIANS tried to hack the computers. Phising.
They also wanted to modify the voter roles to take off all black voters."
Can you imagine if they had been successful and no black voters were
allowed to vote. Gee, that wouldn't have been too suspicious.
However, SOME of the black voters could have been stopped, making it
easier to fool enough people to sway the election. The GOP tries to stop
black voters in every election and they use many tricks to do it.
Chris
Requiring photo ID at polls is terribly racist. Mark
Anthony Marsh
2018-06-08 00:28:22 UTC
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Post by n***@gmail.com
Post by mainframetech
Post by bigdog
In another thread which had digressed to a discussion of alleged Russian
hacking of the 2016 election, one of our most prolific posters made the
"Stay tuned to MSNBC. New documents are being released that show how the
RUSSIANS tried to hack the computers. Phising.
They also wanted to modify the voter roles to take off all black voters."
Can you imagine if they had been successful and no black voters were
allowed to vote. Gee, that wouldn't have been too suspicious.
However, SOME of the black voters could have been stopped, making it
easier to fool enough people to sway the election. The GOP tries to stop
black voters in every election and they use many tricks to do it.
Chris
Requiring photo ID at polls is terribly racist. Mark
If poor black people can't afford to get them and don't have a driver's
license and have to travel 400 miles across state to get one.
bigdog
2018-06-06 00:32:21 UTC
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Post by mainframetech
Post by bigdog
In another thread which had digressed to a discussion of alleged Russian
hacking of the 2016 election, one of our most prolific posters made the
"Stay tuned to MSNBC. New documents are being released that show how the
RUSSIANS tried to hack the computers. Phising.
They also wanted to modify the voter roles to take off all black voters."
Can you imagine if they had been successful and no black voters were
allowed to vote. Gee, that wouldn't have been too suspicious.
However, SOME of the black voters could have been stopped, making it
easier to fool enough people to sway the election. The GOP tries to stop
black voters in every election and they use many tricks to do it.
Could have? Well if we are going to go rumor mongering why don't we talk
about Democrat attempts to register illegal aliens, votes from the
graveyards, and ACORN's fraudulent registration drives.
mainframetech
2018-06-07 01:11:13 UTC
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Post by bigdog
Post by mainframetech
Post by bigdog
In another thread which had digressed to a discussion of alleged Russian
hacking of the 2016 election, one of our most prolific posters made the
"Stay tuned to MSNBC. New documents are being released that show how the
RUSSIANS tried to hack the computers. Phising.
They also wanted to modify the voter roles to take off all black voters."
Can you imagine if they had been successful and no black voters were
allowed to vote. Gee, that wouldn't have been too suspicious.
However, SOME of the black voters could have been stopped, making it
easier to fool enough people to sway the election. The GOP tries to stop
black voters in every election and they use many tricks to do it.
Could have? Well if we are going to go rumor mongering why don't we talk
about Democrat attempts to register illegal aliens, votes from the
graveyards, and ACORN's fraudulent registration drives.
No doubt some of that is true. Fighting fire with fire it would seem.

Chris
Anthony Marsh
2018-06-07 13:48:10 UTC
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Post by bigdog
Post by mainframetech
Post by bigdog
In another thread which had digressed to a discussion of alleged Russian
hacking of the 2016 election, one of our most prolific posters made the
"Stay tuned to MSNBC. New documents are being released that show how the
RUSSIANS tried to hack the computers. Phising.
They also wanted to modify the voter roles to take off all black voters."
Can you imagine if they had been successful and no black voters were
allowed to vote. Gee, that wouldn't have been too suspicious.
However, SOME of the black voters could have been stopped, making it
easier to fool enough people to sway the election. The GOP tries to stop
black voters in every election and they use many tricks to do it.
Could have? Well if we are going to go rumor mongering why don't we talk
about Democrat attempts to register illegal aliens, votes from the
graveyards, and ACORN's fraudulent registration drives.
Yes, rumors that Trump supporters made up, like busing in voters from
Massachusetts to New Hampshire or dead people voting.
Anthony Marsh
2018-06-05 20:39:03 UTC
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Post by bigdog
In another thread which had digressed to a discussion of alleged Russian
hacking of the 2016 election, one of our most prolific posters made the
"Stay tuned to MSNBC. New documents are being released that show how the
RUSSIANS tried to hack the computers. Phising.
They also wanted to modify the voter roles to take off all black voters."
Can you imagine if they had been successful and no black voters were
allowed to vote. Gee, that wouldn't have been too suspicious.
YOU wouldn't have even noticed or cared.
bigdog
2018-06-06 00:33:31 UTC
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Post by bigdog
In another thread which had digressed to a discussion of alleged Russian
hacking of the 2016 election, one of our most prolific posters made the
"Stay tuned to MSNBC. New documents are being released that show how the
RUSSIANS tried to hack the computers. Phising.
They also wanted to modify the voter roles to take off all black voters."
Can you imagine if they had been successful and no black voters were
allowed to vote. Gee, that wouldn't have been too suspicious.
The silliest part of this accusation is that race isn't recorded on the
voter registration rolls. I think that would be a wee bit illegal. For
example if you go to Ohio's online voter registration website, the only
information the voter provides is the following:

Ohio driver’s license or Ohio identification card number
Name
Date of Birth
Address
Last four digits of your Social Security number

Makes it kind of hard to scrub black voters from the registration rolls
when this is the only information available.
mainframetech
2018-06-07 01:10:54 UTC
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Post by bigdog
Post by bigdog
In another thread which had digressed to a discussion of alleged Russian
hacking of the 2016 election, one of our most prolific posters made the
"Stay tuned to MSNBC. New documents are being released that show how the
RUSSIANS tried to hack the computers. Phising.
They also wanted to modify the voter roles to take off all black voters."
Can you imagine if they had been successful and no black voters were
allowed to vote. Gee, that wouldn't have been too suspicious.
The silliest part of this accusation is that race isn't recorded on the
voter registration rolls. I think that would be a wee bit illegal. For
example if you go to Ohio's online voter registration website, the only
Ohio driver’s license or Ohio identification card number
Name
Date of Birth
Address
Last four digits of your Social Security number
Makes it kind of hard to scrub black voters from the registration rolls
when this is the only information available.
Wrong as usual. There are many methods that have been used over the
years, and the news carries them often. Just watch the honest news.
When the Supreme Court struck down a NC law because it was cutting blacks
from voting, they weren't mistaken. And that wasn't the first time.

Chris
bigdog
2018-06-08 01:04:48 UTC
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Post by mainframetech
Post by bigdog
Post by bigdog
In another thread which had digressed to a discussion of alleged Russian
hacking of the 2016 election, one of our most prolific posters made the
"Stay tuned to MSNBC. New documents are being released that show how the
RUSSIANS tried to hack the computers. Phising.
They also wanted to modify the voter roles to take off all black voters."
Can you imagine if they had been successful and no black voters were
allowed to vote. Gee, that wouldn't have been too suspicious.
The silliest part of this accusation is that race isn't recorded on the
voter registration rolls. I think that would be a wee bit illegal. For
example if you go to Ohio's online voter registration website, the only
Ohio driver’s license or Ohio identification card number
Name
Date of Birth
Address
Last four digits of your Social Security number
Makes it kind of hard to scrub black voters from the registration rolls
when this is the only information available.
Wrong as usual. There are many methods that have been used over the
years, and the news carries them often. Just watch the honest news.
I would if I could only find some.
Post by mainframetech
When the Supreme Court struck down a NC law because it was cutting blacks
from voting, they weren't mistaken. And that wasn't the first time.
What law was that?

The claim was made that blacks were being removed from the voting rolls.
In fact it was stated that the Russians wanted to "to take off all black
voters". Just how the hell could anyone do that?
Anthony Marsh
2018-06-09 14:09:58 UTC
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Post by bigdog
Post by mainframetech
Post by bigdog
Post by bigdog
In another thread which had digressed to a discussion of alleged Russian
hacking of the 2016 election, one of our most prolific posters made the
"Stay tuned to MSNBC. New documents are being released that show how the
RUSSIANS tried to hack the computers. Phising.
They also wanted to modify the voter roles to take off all black voters."
Can you imagine if they had been successful and no black voters were
allowed to vote. Gee, that wouldn't have been too suspicious.
The silliest part of this accusation is that race isn't recorded on the
voter registration rolls. I think that would be a wee bit illegal. For
example if you go to Ohio's online voter registration website, the only
Ohio driver’s license or Ohio identification card number
Name
Date of Birth
Address
Last four digits of your Social Security number
Makes it kind of hard to scrub black voters from the registration rolls
when this is the only information available.
Wrong as usual. There are many methods that have been used over the
years, and the news carries them often. Just watch the honest news.
I would if I could only find some.
Post by mainframetech
When the Supreme Court struck down a NC law because it was cutting blacks
from voting, they weren't mistaken. And that wasn't the first time.
What law was that?
OK, play dumb.
And pretend that you never heard of Jim Crow.
Why is it that the ones doing the discriminating are the first ones to
say that there was never any discrimination?
Post by bigdog
The claim was made that blacks were being removed from the voting rolls.
In fact it was stated that the Russians wanted to "to take off all black
voters". Just how the hell could anyone do that?
Voter registration.
Anthony Marsh
2018-06-07 13:47:55 UTC
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Post by bigdog
Post by bigdog
In another thread which had digressed to a discussion of alleged Russian
hacking of the 2016 election, one of our most prolific posters made the
"Stay tuned to MSNBC. New documents are being released that show how the
RUSSIANS tried to hack the computers. Phising.
They also wanted to modify the voter roles to take off all black voters."
Can you imagine if they had been successful and no black voters were
allowed to vote. Gee, that wouldn't have been too suspicious.
The silliest part of this accusation is that race isn't recorded on the
voter registration rolls. I think that would be a wee bit illegal. For
example if you go to Ohio's online voter registration website, the only
Ohio driver’s license or Ohio identification card number
Name
Date of Birth
Address
Last four digits of your Social Security number
Makes it kind of hard to scrub black voters from the registration rolls
when this is the only information available.
As if the election officials couldn't tell the difference.
They also acomplish the same thing by targeting different precints.
SUburban versus urban.
XXX
2018-06-06 00:34:00 UTC
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Post by bigdog
In another thread which had digressed to a discussion of alleged Russian
hacking of the 2016 election, one of our most prolific posters made the
"Stay tuned to MSNBC. New documents are being released that show how the
RUSSIANS tried to hack the computers. Phising.
They also wanted to modify the voter roles to take off all black voters."
Can you imagine if they had been successful and no black voters were
allowed to vote. Gee, that wouldn't have been too suspicious.
Pro-Trump group linked to Breitbart may have broken election law: expert
BY JOHN BOWDEN - 05/29/18 10:19 AM EDT 51
2,334

http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/389685-pro-trump-group-linked-to-breitbart-may-have-broken-election-law

A group tied to Breitbart News that was meant to boost President Trump's
support among urban and African-American communities may have violated
election law, according to a former Federal Election Commission (FEC)
general counsel.

Lawrence Noble, who served at the FEC during both GOP and Democratic
administrations, told Bloomberg News that descriptions of the group
"Trump for Urban Communities" from the group's founder, Bruce Carter,
raise questions as to whether the group's financial dealings violated
campaign finance laws.

In an interview with Bloomberg, Carter, who previously founded the
pro-Bernie Sanders group "Black Men for Bernie," described himself as
recruited by Breitbart reporter Dustin Stockton supposedly on behalf of
the Trump campaign to encourage black voters to either stay home or
support Trump over his opponent, Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton, on
Election Day.

A whistleblower from Cambridge Analytica told lawmakers earlier this
month that the Trump campaign coordinated with his data company in an
effort to suppress the black vote.

“If you can’t stomach Trump, just don’t vote for the other people and
don’t vote at all,” Carter described the message the Trump campaign
wanted him to spread. “That’s what they wanted, that’s what they got.”

Carter's group did not report its finances, which he says he believed he
was not required to do as a member of the campaign. However, his group
took donations including at least one as large as $100,000 from a
supporter, which far exceeds the legal $2,700 limit of contributions to
a group that coordinates with a campaign.

“There are some real problems here,” Noble, who now works at the
Campaign Legal Center, told Bloomberg. “I would think this is more than
enough evidence for the FEC to open an investigation.”

The Trump campaign and former Breitbart chairman Stephen Bannon did not
respond to requests for comment from Bloomberg, but the former Breitbart
News chief dismissed allegations that he attempted to suppress the black
vote in 2016 in an interview with the news outlet last week.

“When you ask them why they didn’t vote for her or why they didn’t turn
up, it’s because they didn’t like [Clinton's] policies,” Bannon said.
bigdog
2018-06-07 00:59:19 UTC
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Post by XXX
Post by bigdog
In another thread which had digressed to a discussion of alleged Russian
hacking of the 2016 election, one of our most prolific posters made the
"Stay tuned to MSNBC. New documents are being released that show how the
RUSSIANS tried to hack the computers. Phising.
They also wanted to modify the voter roles to take off all black voters."
Can you imagine if they had been successful and no black voters were
allowed to vote. Gee, that wouldn't have been too suspicious.
Pro-Trump group linked to Breitbart may have broken election law: expert
BY JOHN BOWDEN - 05/29/18 10:19 AM EDT 51
2,334
http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/389685-pro-trump-group-linked-to-breitbart-may-have-broken-election-law
A group tied to Breitbart News that was meant to boost President Trump's
support among urban and African-American communities may have violated
election law, according to a former Federal Election Commission (FEC)
general counsel.
Lawrence Noble, who served at the FEC during both GOP and Democratic
administrations, told Bloomberg News that descriptions of the group
"Trump for Urban Communities" from the group's founder, Bruce Carter,
raise questions as to whether the group's financial dealings violated
campaign finance laws.
In an interview with Bloomberg, Carter, who previously founded the
pro-Bernie Sanders group "Black Men for Bernie," described himself as
recruited by Breitbart reporter Dustin Stockton supposedly on behalf of
the Trump campaign to encourage black voters to either stay home or
support Trump over his opponent, Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton, on
Election Day.
A whistleblower from Cambridge Analytica told lawmakers earlier this
month that the Trump campaign coordinated with his data company in an
effort to suppress the black vote.
“If you can’t stomach Trump, just don’t vote for the other people and
don’t vote at all,” Carter described the message the Trump campaign
wanted him to spread. “That’s what they wanted, that’s what they got.”
Carter's group did not report its finances, which he says he believed he
was not required to do as a member of the campaign. However, his group
took donations including at least one as large as $100,000 from a
supporter, which far exceeds the legal $2,700 limit of contributions to
a group that coordinates with a campaign.
“There are some real problems here,” Noble, who now works at the
Campaign Legal Center, told Bloomberg. “I would think this is more than
enough evidence for the FEC to open an investigation.”
The Trump campaign and former Breitbart chairman Stephen Bannon did not
respond to requests for comment from Bloomberg, but the former Breitbart
News chief dismissed allegations that he attempted to suppress the black
vote in 2016 in an interview with the news outlet last week.
“When you ask them why they didn’t vote for her or why they didn’t turn
up, it’s because they didn’t like [Clinton's] policies,” Bannon said.
Why don't you talk about the email that went around that said something
like:

Due to expected heavy voter turnout, the election will be conducted over
days. Republicans vote on Tuesday and Democrats vote on Wednesday.
mainframetech
2018-06-08 01:15:24 UTC
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Post by bigdog
Post by XXX
Post by bigdog
In another thread which had digressed to a discussion of alleged Russian
hacking of the 2016 election, one of our most prolific posters made the
"Stay tuned to MSNBC. New documents are being released that show how the
RUSSIANS tried to hack the computers. Phising.
They also wanted to modify the voter roles to take off all black voters."
Can you imagine if they had been successful and no black voters were
allowed to vote. Gee, that wouldn't have been too suspicious.
Pro-Trump group linked to Breitbart may have broken election law: expert
BY JOHN BOWDEN - 05/29/18 10:19 AM EDT 51
2,334
http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/389685-pro-trump-group-linked-to-breitbart-may-have-broken-election-law
A group tied to Breitbart News that was meant to boost President Trump's
support among urban and African-American communities may have violated
election law, according to a former Federal Election Commission (FEC)
general counsel.
Lawrence Noble, who served at the FEC during both GOP and Democratic
administrations, told Bloomberg News that descriptions of the group
"Trump for Urban Communities" from the group's founder, Bruce Carter,
raise questions as to whether the group's financial dealings violated
campaign finance laws.
In an interview with Bloomberg, Carter, who previously founded the
pro-Bernie Sanders group "Black Men for Bernie," described himself as
recruited by Breitbart reporter Dustin Stockton supposedly on behalf of
the Trump campaign to encourage black voters to either stay home or
support Trump over his opponent, Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton, on
Election Day.
A whistleblower from Cambridge Analytica told lawmakers earlier this
month that the Trump campaign coordinated with his data company in an
effort to suppress the black vote.
“If you can’t stomach Trump, just don’t vote for the other people and
don’t vote at all,” Carter described the message the Trump campaign
wanted him to spread. “That’s what they wanted, that’s what they got.”
Carter's group did not report its finances, which he says he believed he
was not required to do as a member of the campaign. However, his group
took donations including at least one as large as $100,000 from a
supporter, which far exceeds the legal $2,700 limit of contributions to
a group that coordinates with a campaign.
“There are some real problems here,” Noble, who now works at the
Campaign Legal Center, told Bloomberg. “I would think this is more than
enough evidence for the FEC to open an investigation.”
The Trump campaign and former Breitbart chairman Stephen Bannon did not
respond to requests for comment from Bloomberg, but the former Breitbart
News chief dismissed allegations that he attempted to suppress the black
vote in 2016 in an interview with the news outlet last week.
“When you ask them why they didn’t vote for her or why they didn’t turn
up, it’s because they didn’t like [Clinton's] policies,” Bannon said.
Why don't you talk about the email that went around that said something
Due to expected heavy voter turnout, the election will be conducted over
days. Republicans vote on Tuesday and Democrats vote on Wednesday.
Since election day is always on Tuesday, that must be a Republican
message to stop democrat voting.

Chris
bigdog
2018-06-08 22:29:54 UTC
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Post by mainframetech
Post by bigdog
Post by XXX
Post by bigdog
In another thread which had digressed to a discussion of alleged Russian
hacking of the 2016 election, one of our most prolific posters made the
"Stay tuned to MSNBC. New documents are being released that show how the
RUSSIANS tried to hack the computers. Phising.
They also wanted to modify the voter roles to take off all black voters."
Can you imagine if they had been successful and no black voters were
allowed to vote. Gee, that wouldn't have been too suspicious.
Pro-Trump group linked to Breitbart may have broken election law: expert
BY JOHN BOWDEN - 05/29/18 10:19 AM EDT 51
2,334
http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/389685-pro-trump-group-linked-to-breitbart-may-have-broken-election-law
A group tied to Breitbart News that was meant to boost President Trump's
support among urban and African-American communities may have violated
election law, according to a former Federal Election Commission (FEC)
general counsel.
Lawrence Noble, who served at the FEC during both GOP and Democratic
administrations, told Bloomberg News that descriptions of the group
"Trump for Urban Communities" from the group's founder, Bruce Carter,
raise questions as to whether the group's financial dealings violated
campaign finance laws.
In an interview with Bloomberg, Carter, who previously founded the
pro-Bernie Sanders group "Black Men for Bernie," described himself as
recruited by Breitbart reporter Dustin Stockton supposedly on behalf of
the Trump campaign to encourage black voters to either stay home or
support Trump over his opponent, Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton, on
Election Day.
A whistleblower from Cambridge Analytica told lawmakers earlier this
month that the Trump campaign coordinated with his data company in an
effort to suppress the black vote.
“If you can’t stomach Trump, just don’t vote for the other people and
don’t vote at all,” Carter described the message the Trump campaign
wanted him to spread. “That’s what they wanted, that’s what they got.”
Carter's group did not report its finances, which he says he believed he
was not required to do as a member of the campaign. However, his group
took donations including at least one as large as $100,000 from a
supporter, which far exceeds the legal $2,700 limit of contributions to
a group that coordinates with a campaign.
“There are some real problems here,” Noble, who now works at the
Campaign Legal Center, told Bloomberg. “I would think this is more than
enough evidence for the FEC to open an investigation.”
The Trump campaign and former Breitbart chairman Stephen Bannon did not
respond to requests for comment from Bloomberg, but the former Breitbart
News chief dismissed allegations that he attempted to suppress the black
vote in 2016 in an interview with the news outlet last week.
“When you ask them why they didn’t vote for her or why they didn’t turn
up, it’s because they didn’t like [Clinton's] policies,” Bannon said.
Why don't you talk about the email that went around that said something
Due to expected heavy voter turnout, the election will be conducted over
days. Republicans vote on Tuesday and Democrats vote on Wednesday.
Since election day is always on Tuesday, that must be a Republican
message to stop democrat voting.
Only a Democrat would be dumb enough to fall for it.
mainframetech
2018-06-10 00:32:42 UTC
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Post by bigdog
Post by mainframetech
Post by bigdog
Post by XXX
Post by bigdog
In another thread which had digressed to a discussion of alleged Russian
hacking of the 2016 election, one of our most prolific posters made the
"Stay tuned to MSNBC. New documents are being released that show how the
RUSSIANS tried to hack the computers. Phising.
They also wanted to modify the voter roles to take off all black voters."
Can you imagine if they had been successful and no black voters were
allowed to vote. Gee, that wouldn't have been too suspicious.
Pro-Trump group linked to Breitbart may have broken election law: expert
BY JOHN BOWDEN - 05/29/18 10:19 AM EDT 51
2,334
http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/389685-pro-trump-group-linked-to-breitbart-may-have-broken-election-law
A group tied to Breitbart News that was meant to boost President Trump's
support among urban and African-American communities may have violated
election law, according to a former Federal Election Commission (FEC)
general counsel.
Lawrence Noble, who served at the FEC during both GOP and Democratic
administrations, told Bloomberg News that descriptions of the group
"Trump for Urban Communities" from the group's founder, Bruce Carter,
raise questions as to whether the group's financial dealings violated
campaign finance laws.
In an interview with Bloomberg, Carter, who previously founded the
pro-Bernie Sanders group "Black Men for Bernie," described himself as
recruited by Breitbart reporter Dustin Stockton supposedly on behalf of
the Trump campaign to encourage black voters to either stay home or
support Trump over his opponent, Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton, on
Election Day.
A whistleblower from Cambridge Analytica told lawmakers earlier this
month that the Trump campaign coordinated with his data company in an
effort to suppress the black vote.
“If you can’t stomach Trump, just don’t vote for the other people and
don’t vote at all,” Carter described the message the Trump campaign
wanted him to spread. “That’s what they wanted, that’s what they got.”
Carter's group did not report its finances, which he says he believed he
was not required to do as a member of the campaign. However, his group
took donations including at least one as large as $100,000 from a
supporter, which far exceeds the legal $2,700 limit of contributions to
a group that coordinates with a campaign.
“There are some real problems here,” Noble, who now works at the
Campaign Legal Center, told Bloomberg. “I would think this is more than
enough evidence for the FEC to open an investigation.”
The Trump campaign and former Breitbart chairman Stephen Bannon did not
respond to requests for comment from Bloomberg, but the former Breitbart
News chief dismissed allegations that he attempted to suppress the black
vote in 2016 in an interview with the news outlet last week.
“When you ask them why they didn’t vote for her or why they didn’t turn
up, it’s because they didn’t like [Clinton's] policies,” Bannon said.
Why don't you talk about the email that went around that said something
Due to expected heavy voter turnout, the election will be conducted over
days. Republicans vote on Tuesday and Democrats vote on Wednesday.
Since election day is always on Tuesday, that must be a Republican
message to stop democrat voting.
Only a Democrat would be dumb enough to fall for it.
Ah, so you admit the method was not from the democrats.

Chris
bigdog
2018-06-10 22:50:29 UTC
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Post by mainframetech
Post by bigdog
Post by mainframetech
Post by bigdog
Post by XXX
Post by bigdog
In another thread which had digressed to a discussion of alleged Russian
hacking of the 2016 election, one of our most prolific posters made the
"Stay tuned to MSNBC. New documents are being released that show how the
RUSSIANS tried to hack the computers. Phising.
They also wanted to modify the voter roles to take off all black voters."
Can you imagine if they had been successful and no black voters were
allowed to vote. Gee, that wouldn't have been too suspicious.
Pro-Trump group linked to Breitbart may have broken election law: expert
BY JOHN BOWDEN - 05/29/18 10:19 AM EDT 51
2,334
http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/389685-pro-trump-group-linked-to-breitbart-may-have-broken-election-law
A group tied to Breitbart News that was meant to boost President Trump's
support among urban and African-American communities may have violated
election law, according to a former Federal Election Commission (FEC)
general counsel.
Lawrence Noble, who served at the FEC during both GOP and Democratic
administrations, told Bloomberg News that descriptions of the group
"Trump for Urban Communities" from the group's founder, Bruce Carter,
raise questions as to whether the group's financial dealings violated
campaign finance laws.
In an interview with Bloomberg, Carter, who previously founded the
pro-Bernie Sanders group "Black Men for Bernie," described himself as
recruited by Breitbart reporter Dustin Stockton supposedly on behalf of
the Trump campaign to encourage black voters to either stay home or
support Trump over his opponent, Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton, on
Election Day.
A whistleblower from Cambridge Analytica told lawmakers earlier this
month that the Trump campaign coordinated with his data company in an
effort to suppress the black vote.
“If you can’t stomach Trump, just don’t vote for the other people and
don’t vote at all,” Carter described the message the Trump campaign
wanted him to spread. “That’s what they wanted, that’s what they got.”
Carter's group did not report its finances, which he says he believed he
was not required to do as a member of the campaign. However, his group
took donations including at least one as large as $100,000 from a
supporter, which far exceeds the legal $2,700 limit of contributions to
a group that coordinates with a campaign.
“There are some real problems here,” Noble, who now works at the
Campaign Legal Center, told Bloomberg. “I would think this is more than
enough evidence for the FEC to open an investigation.”
The Trump campaign and former Breitbart chairman Stephen Bannon did not
respond to requests for comment from Bloomberg, but the former Breitbart
News chief dismissed allegations that he attempted to suppress the black
vote in 2016 in an interview with the news outlet last week.
“When you ask them why they didn’t vote for her or why they didn’t turn
up, it’s because they didn’t like [Clinton's] policies,” Bannon said.
Why don't you talk about the email that went around that said something
Due to expected heavy voter turnout, the election will be conducted over
days. Republicans vote on Tuesday and Democrats vote on Wednesday.
Since election day is always on Tuesday, that must be a Republican
message to stop democrat voting.
Only a Democrat would be dumb enough to fall for it.
Ah, so you admit the method was not from the democrats.
You figured that out all by yourself?
Jason Burke
2018-06-09 01:36:37 UTC
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Post by mainframetech
Post by bigdog
Post by XXX
Post by bigdog
In another thread which had digressed to a discussion of alleged Russian
hacking of the 2016 election, one of our most prolific posters made the
"Stay tuned to MSNBC. New documents are being released that show how the
RUSSIANS tried to hack the computers. Phising.
They also wanted to modify the voter roles to take off all black voters."
Can you imagine if they had been successful and no black voters were
allowed to vote. Gee, that wouldn't have been too suspicious.
Pro-Trump group linked to Breitbart may have broken election law: expert
BY JOHN BOWDEN - 05/29/18 10:19 AM EDT 51
2,334
http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/389685-pro-trump-group-linked-to-breitbart-may-have-broken-election-law
A group tied to Breitbart News that was meant to boost President Trump's
support among urban and African-American communities may have violated
election law, according to a former Federal Election Commission (FEC)
general counsel.
Lawrence Noble, who served at the FEC during both GOP and Democratic
administrations, told Bloomberg News that descriptions of the group
"Trump for Urban Communities" from the group's founder, Bruce Carter,
raise questions as to whether the group's financial dealings violated
campaign finance laws.
In an interview with Bloomberg, Carter, who previously founded the
pro-Bernie Sanders group "Black Men for Bernie," described himself as
recruited by Breitbart reporter Dustin Stockton supposedly on behalf of
the Trump campaign to encourage black voters to either stay home or
support Trump over his opponent, Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton, on
Election Day.
A whistleblower from Cambridge Analytica told lawmakers earlier this
month that the Trump campaign coordinated with his data company in an
effort to suppress the black vote.
“If you can’t stomach Trump, just don’t vote for the other people and
don’t vote at all,” Carter described the message the Trump campaign
wanted him to spread. “That’s what they wanted, that’s what they got.”
Carter's group did not report its finances, which he says he believed he
was not required to do as a member of the campaign. However, his group
took donations including at least one as large as $100,000 from a
supporter, which far exceeds the legal $2,700 limit of contributions to
a group that coordinates with a campaign.
“There are some real problems here,” Noble, who now works at the
Campaign Legal Center, told Bloomberg. “I would think this is more than
enough evidence for the FEC to open an investigation.”
The Trump campaign and former Breitbart chairman Stephen Bannon did not
respond to requests for comment from Bloomberg, but the former Breitbart
News chief dismissed allegations that he attempted to suppress the black
vote in 2016 in an interview with the news outlet last week.
“When you ask them why they didn’t vote for her or why they didn’t turn
up, it’s because they didn’t like [Clinton's] policies,” Bannon said.
Why don't you talk about the email that went around that said something
Due to expected heavy voter turnout, the election will be conducted over
days. Republicans vote on Tuesday and Democrats vote on Wednesday.
Since election day is always on Tuesday, that must be a Republican
message to stop democrat voting.
Chris
Seriously? Did you figure that out all by yourself, Chris?
mainframetech
2018-06-07 01:10:25 UTC
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Post by XXX
Post by bigdog
In another thread which had digressed to a discussion of alleged Russian
hacking of the 2016 election, one of our most prolific posters made the
"Stay tuned to MSNBC. New documents are being released that show how the
RUSSIANS tried to hack the computers. Phising.
They also wanted to modify the voter roles to take off all black voters."
Can you imagine if they had been successful and no black voters were
allowed to vote. Gee, that wouldn't have been too suspicious.
Pro-Trump group linked to Breitbart may have broken election law: expert
BY JOHN BOWDEN - 05/29/18 10:19 AM EDT 51
2,334
http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/389685-pro-trump-group-linked-to-breitbart-may-have-broken-election-law
A group tied to Breitbart News that was meant to boost President Trump's
support among urban and African-American communities may have violated
election law, according to a former Federal Election Commission (FEC)
general counsel.
Lawrence Noble, who served at the FEC during both GOP and Democratic
administrations, told Bloomberg News that descriptions of the group
"Trump for Urban Communities" from the group's founder, Bruce Carter,
raise questions as to whether the group's financial dealings violated
campaign finance laws.
In an interview with Bloomberg, Carter, who previously founded the
pro-Bernie Sanders group "Black Men for Bernie," described himself as
recruited by Breitbart reporter Dustin Stockton supposedly on behalf of
the Trump campaign to encourage black voters to either stay home or
support Trump over his opponent, Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton, on
Election Day.
A whistleblower from Cambridge Analytica told lawmakers earlier this
month that the Trump campaign coordinated with his data company in an
effort to suppress the black vote.
“If you can’t stomach Trump, just don’t vote for the other people and
don’t vote at all,” Carter described the message the Trump campaign
wanted him to spread. “That’s what they wanted, that’s what they got.”
Carter's group did not report its finances, which he says he believed he
was not required to do as a member of the campaign. However, his group
took donations including at least one as large as $100,000 from a
supporter, which far exceeds the legal $2,700 limit of contributions to
a group that coordinates with a campaign.
“There are some real problems here,” Noble, who now works at the
Campaign Legal Center, told Bloomberg. “I would think this is more than
enough evidence for the FEC to open an investigation.”
The Trump campaign and former Breitbart chairman Stephen Bannon did not
respond to requests for comment from Bloomberg, but the former Breitbart
News chief dismissed allegations that he attempted to suppress the black
vote in 2016 in an interview with the news outlet last week.
“When you ask them why they didn’t vote for her or why they didn’t turn
up, it’s because they didn’t like [Clinton's] policies,” Bannon said.
There's much meat in these stories when you look through the Trump
Campaign and W.H.

Chris
claviger
2018-06-12 13:06:38 UTC
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Post by bigdog
In another thread which had digressed to a discussion of alleged Russian
hacking of the 2016 election, one of our most prolific posters made the
"Stay tuned to MSNBC. New documents are being released that show how the
RUSSIANS tried to hack the computers. Phising.
They also wanted to modify the voter roles to take off all black voters."
Can you imagine if they had been successful and no black voters were
allowed to vote. Gee, that wouldn't have been too suspicious.
How could they tell if they were Black voters?
bigdog
2018-06-13 02:27:53 UTC
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Post by claviger
Post by bigdog
In another thread which had digressed to a discussion of alleged Russian
hacking of the 2016 election, one of our most prolific posters made the
"Stay tuned to MSNBC. New documents are being released that show how the
RUSSIANS tried to hack the computers. Phising.
They also wanted to modify the voter roles to take off all black voters."
Can you imagine if they had been successful and no black voters were
allowed to vote. Gee, that wouldn't have been too suspicious.
How could they tell if they were Black voters?
I've already raised that question and have yet to get any answer from
Marsh or anyone else. Race is not included in the information required
when someone registers to vote, at least not in Ohio and I doubt anywhere
else.

On a related note, the Supreme Court just upheld an Ohio law which allows
Ohio to purge from the voting rolls people who haven't voted in recent
elections. If someone hasn't voted in the past two years they Secretary of
State sends a post card to their address of registration asking them to
respond to confirm they are still living at the address. As long as they
respond, they stay on the rolls whether they choose to vote or not. If
they fail to respond after several attempts to reach them, they are
purged. It is intended to remove people from the books who have either
died or moved. There is no automatic mechanism to remove such people from
the books. It doesn't take a genius to figure out that if you have lots of
people registered to vote who no longer live at the address in which they
are registered that fraudulent votes could be cast by people posing as
them. The law has been in place a long time and has been enforced by both
Democrat and Republican Secretaries of State but naturally the lefties are
now whining that it is used to wipe black voters off the registration
rolls. Senator Sherrod Brown who is up for reelection this year has
already made that bogus claim.
mainframetech
2018-06-14 01:15:54 UTC
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Post by bigdog
Post by claviger
Post by bigdog
In another thread which had digressed to a discussion of alleged Russian
hacking of the 2016 election, one of our most prolific posters made the
"Stay tuned to MSNBC. New documents are being released that show how the
RUSSIANS tried to hack the computers. Phising.
They also wanted to modify the voter roles to take off all black voters."
Can you imagine if they had been successful and no black voters were
allowed to vote. Gee, that wouldn't have been too suspicious.
How could they tell if they were Black voters?
I've already raised that question and have yet to get any answer from
Marsh or anyone else. Race is not included in the information required
when someone registers to vote, at least not in Ohio and I doubt anywhere
else.
I published an answer, but you apparently missed it. First, names can
often be attributed to black or hispinic voters by their nature, and a
random deletion would get mostly the minority voters. Second, I copied
here the reasn the Supreme Court struck down the North Carolina voting
law, copied hwere again:

"The court’s decision not to hear an appeal in the case
effectively overturned one of the most far-reaching attempts by
Republicans to counter what they contended, without evidence, was
widespread voter fraud in North Carolina. The law rejected the forms of
identification used disproportionately by blacks, including IDs issued to
government employees, students and people receiving public assistance."

From: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/15/us/politics/voter-id-laws-supreme-court-north-carolina.html
Post by bigdog
On a related note, the Supreme Court just upheld an Ohio law which allows
Ohio to purge from the voting rolls people who haven't voted in recent
elections. If someone hasn't voted in the past two years they Secretary of
State sends a post card to their address of registration asking them to
respond to confirm they are still living at the address. As long as they
respond, they stay on the rolls whether they choose to vote or not. If
they fail to respond after several attempts to reach them, they are
purged. It is intended to remove people from the books who have either
died or moved. There is no automatic mechanism to remove such people from
the books. It doesn't take a genius to figure out that if you have lots of
people registered to vote who no longer live at the address in which they
are registered that fraudulent votes could be cast by people posing as
them.
While it seems to be a good, sensible law, how would a fraudster find
out that the person did not correct the state register when they moved?
In NJ they ask that people send in the info to the Motor Vehicle
department and they handle the voter register, but if you don't send
something in, they have no clue you moved.
Post by bigdog
The law has been in place a long time and has been enforced by both
Democrat and Republican Secretaries of State but naturally the lefties are
now whining that it is used to wipe black voters off the registration
rolls. Senator Sherrod Brown who is up for reelection this year has
already made that bogus claim.
As a proud Independent, I have no problem with that law. It makes
sense because many people don't bother to see to their responsibilities.

Chris
bigdog
2018-06-14 23:51:42 UTC
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Post by mainframetech
Post by bigdog
Post by claviger
Post by bigdog
In another thread which had digressed to a discussion of alleged Russian
hacking of the 2016 election, one of our most prolific posters made the
"Stay tuned to MSNBC. New documents are being released that show how the
RUSSIANS tried to hack the computers. Phising.
They also wanted to modify the voter roles to take off all black voters."
Can you imagine if they had been successful and no black voters were
allowed to vote. Gee, that wouldn't have been too suspicious.
How could they tell if they were Black voters?
I've already raised that question and have yet to get any answer from
Marsh or anyone else. Race is not included in the information required
when someone registers to vote, at least not in Ohio and I doubt anywhere
else.
I published an answer, but you apparently missed it. First, names can
often be attributed to black or hispinic voters by their nature, and a
random deletion would get mostly the minority voters.
WOW, are you desperate to believe nonsense.
Post by mainframetech
Second, I copied
here the reasn the Supreme Court struck down the North Carolina voting
"The court’s decision not to hear an appeal in the case
effectively overturned one of the most far-reaching attempts by
Republicans to counter what they contended, without evidence, was
widespread voter fraud in North Carolina. The law rejected the forms of
identification used disproportionately by blacks, including IDs issued to
government employees, students and people receiving public assistance."
From: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/15/us/politics/voter-id-laws-supreme-court-north-carolina.html
What you presented was the NYT spin on the court's decision. You did not
quote the court's opinion.
Post by mainframetech
Post by bigdog
On a related note, the Supreme Court just upheld an Ohio law which allows
Ohio to purge from the voting rolls people who haven't voted in recent
elections. If someone hasn't voted in the past two years they Secretary of
State sends a post card to their address of registration asking them to
respond to confirm they are still living at the address. As long as they
respond, they stay on the rolls whether they choose to vote or not. If
they fail to respond after several attempts to reach them, they are
purged. It is intended to remove people from the books who have either
died or moved. There is no automatic mechanism to remove such people from
the books. It doesn't take a genius to figure out that if you have lots of
people registered to vote who no longer live at the address in which they
are registered that fraudulent votes could be cast by people posing as
them.
While it seems to be a good, sensible law, how would a fraudster find
out that the person did not correct the state register when they moved?
He wouldn't need to know that. All he would have to do would be to show up
at the polling place posing as the person who had moved or died. Since
there is no automatic mechanism to purge such people, there is a good
chance that person will still be on the voting rolls. Ohio doesn't require
photo ID and almost any document with a person's name and address can be
used as valid ID, such as a utility bill. It would be easy to forge such a
document. If it turns out that person has been removed, the fraudulent
voter would just be turned away.
Post by mainframetech
In NJ they ask that people send in the info to the Motor Vehicle
department and they handle the voter register, but if you don't send
something in, they have no clue you moved.
That's the problem. It relies on the voter to do the right thing and many
will not.
Post by mainframetech
Post by bigdog
The law has been in place a long time and has been enforced by both
Democrat and Republican Secretaries of State but naturally the lefties are
now whining that it is used to wipe black voters off the registration
rolls. Senator Sherrod Brown who is up for reelection this year has
already made that bogus claim.
As a proud Independent, I have no problem with that law. It makes
sense because many people don't bother to see to their responsibilities.
Anthony Marsh
2018-06-14 19:15:57 UTC
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Post by bigdog
Post by claviger
Post by bigdog
In another thread which had digressed to a discussion of alleged Russian
hacking of the 2016 election, one of our most prolific posters made the
"Stay tuned to MSNBC. New documents are being released that show how the
RUSSIANS tried to hack the computers. Phising.
They also wanted to modify the voter roles to take off all black voters."
Can you imagine if they had been successful and no black voters were
allowed to vote. Gee, that wouldn't have been too suspicious.
How could they tell if they were Black voters?
I've already raised that question and have yet to get any answer from
Marsh or anyone else. Race is not included in the information required
when someone registers to vote, at least not in Ohio and I doubt anywhere
else.
On a related note, the Supreme Court just upheld an Ohio law which allows
Ohio to purge from the voting rolls people who haven't voted in recent
elections. If someone hasn't voted in the past two years they Secretary of
State sends a post card to their address of registration asking them to
respond to confirm they are still living at the address. As long as they
respond, they stay on the rolls whether they choose to vote or not. If
they fail to respond after several attempts to reach them, they are
purged. It is intended to remove people from the books who have either
died or moved. There is no automatic mechanism to remove such people from
the books. It doesn't take a genius to figure out that if you have lots of
people registered to vote who no longer live at the address in which they
are registered that fraudulent votes could be cast by people posing as
them. The law has been in place a long time and has been enforced by both
Democrat and Republican Secretaries of State but naturally the lefties are
now whining that it is used to wipe black voters off the registration
rolls. Senator Sherrod Brown who is up for reelection this year has
already made that bogus claim.
I don't think it's fair. They used to let dead people vote in Texas.
That's how LBJ won. ZOMBIE RIGHTS!
mainframetech
2018-06-13 03:14:22 UTC
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Post by claviger
Post by bigdog
In another thread which had digressed to a discussion of alleged Russian
hacking of the 2016 election, one of our most prolific posters made the
"Stay tuned to MSNBC. New documents are being released that show how the
RUSSIANS tried to hack the computers. Phising.
They also wanted to modify the voter roles to take off all black voters."
Can you imagine if they had been successful and no black voters were
allowed to vote. Gee, that wouldn't have been too suspicious.
How could they tell if they were Black voters?
Sometimes naming conventions give many away. But the Russians were
shown to have hacked into one of the registry rolls for one of the states.
If they had discredited random names that were decided to be black voters,
that is one way it could be done. Not EVERY voter, but randomly selected
ones.

Chris
Anthony Marsh
2018-06-13 14:14:03 UTC
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Post by claviger
Post by bigdog
In another thread which had digressed to a discussion of alleged Russian
hacking of the 2016 election, one of our most prolific posters made the
"Stay tuned to MSNBC. New documents are being released that show how the
RUSSIANS tried to hack the computers. Phising.
They also wanted to modify the voter roles to take off all black voters."
Can you imagine if they had been successful and no black voters were
allowed to vote. Gee, that wouldn't have been too suspicious.
How could they tell if they were Black voters?
Address.
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