Post by Anthony Marsh Post by GKnoll Post by Steve Barber Post by BOZ
The last section re: Don Thomas, is spot on. Thomas, to this day, spreads
his absolute lies regarding what he claims is "crosstalk", knowing fully
well that it isn't crosstalk. It was Micheal o'Dell who convinced Thomas
that he was using inferior copies of the police recordings when Thomas
wrote his peer reviewed paper in 2001. After Michael presented Thomas with
the facts--that the channel two recording was useless as a timing tool to
prove the HSCA's claim that H.B. McLain had the open mic was correct.
(This was nearly twenty years after the Ramsey panel Report in 1982).
After Michael O'Dell convinced Don Thomas he was wrong, Thomas
Apparently, Thomas couldn't admit complete defeat, so, he invented his
"crosstalk" theory, based primarily on the transcript written by James C.
Bowles) DPD Communications Supervisor at the time of the assassination
(See the transcript in Larry Sneed's excellent book "No More Silence").
Thomas was/is wrong, again, and several members of the Ramsey panel
regrouped performed a study on Thomas' conclusions, wrote a detailed
report regarding Thomas' theory, and Micheal O'Dell aided in proving
I also wrote an article(which was featured in Bugliosi's Reclaiming
History) which you can read here, regarding heterodyne tones (beep tones)
that accompany the speech which Thomas claims is crosstalk on channel 1.
The fact that there are heterodyne tones accompanying the speech that
Thomas says is crosstalk proves that it isn't crosstalk at all. Which
To this day, Thomas speaks at JFK conspiracy conferences spreading his
untruth regarding the speech on channel 1 which he claims is crosstalk.
Thomas believes that the "gunshots" are on the channel 1 Dictabelt, but
that there are five--not four gunshots-- and he supports the conclusions
reached by the acoustics experts for the HSCA.
The so called "acoustic experts" have formed a clique. And it is very
hard to penetrate this clique. They are a small group who are hell bent
on pushing through the false theory that the man behind the fence shown
in the Moorman photo (and I think first identified by Josiah Thompson in
his book "Six Seconds In Dallas") fired the shot that we all see
striking the Presdient on Zapruder frame 313. There is not a single
piece of evidence that supports that shot came from the knoll, quite the
contrary, every single piece of evidence we have shows that the shot at
frame 313 could not have been fired by that man at that time.
Their theory is 100% dependent upon the interpretation made by Weiss and
Not exactly. I did my own independent study.
Post by GKnoll
No one has been able to confirm the interpretation of Weiss and
No you did not. We have been through this a 100 times. You did not even
look at the knoll shot.
Lets see your results.
You did not publish any results because you could not confirm their work.
Post by Anthony Marsh Post by GKnoll
Aschkenasy. Robert Berkovitz was the first and he showed that their
He's not an acoustical scientist. Neither is Steve Barber. He didn't
even go to college.
Marsh, you are living in a dream world.
You are losing what little credibility you might have left...
Here is Robert Berkovitz's resume.
University of Illinois, Urbana 1952-1955
History of Art, Philosophy
1999 to present Chairman, Sensimetrics Corporation
1987-1998 President, Sensimetrics Corporation
1985-1987 Manager, Audiometer Development Group, Belmont, MA
1985-1987 Consultant, The Dietrich Group, Waltham, MA
1982-1987 Consultant, Bolt Beranek & Newman, Inc.
1974-1982 Director of Research, Teledyne Acoustic Research, Norwood, MA
1970-1974 Head, Advertising and Comm., Dolby Laboratories,
Inc. London, England
1967-1970 Director of Communications, Acoustic Research, Inc.
1966-1967 Education Project Director, American Can Co., New
1965-1966 Operations Manager, Mattes Electronics, Inc. Chicago,
1963-1965 Manager, Consumer Product Development, Jensen Mfg.
Co., Chicago, IL
1962-1963 Product Development Manager, Dynaco, Inc. Santa
1961-1962 Operations Manager, Transis-Tronics, Inc. Santa
1958-1961 Manager, Product Development, Allied Radio
Corporation, Chicago, IL
1956-1957 Art Director, Encyclopedia Britannica, Chicago, IL
1954-1956 Illustration Editor, Spencer Press, Champion, IL
Allison, R. and R. Berkovitz (1970) "The sound field in home listening
rooms." Journal Audio Eng. Soc., 20: 459-469.
Berkovitz, R. McIntosh, D. (1974) "A sixteen-channel digital time delay
system," presented at the 1974 AES Technical
Meeting, Los Angeles.
Berkovitz, R. and B.E. Edvardsen (1976). "Listener sensitivity to phase
shift in music reproduction," presented at the
1976 AES Technical Meeting, New York (AES Preprint No. 1294).
Berkovitz, R. and T. Schultz (1977) "Use of computers in the study of
room acoustics." Journal of the Acoustical
Society of America, 64: 41(S)
Berkovitz, R. (1978) "Loudspeaker measurements weighted by psychoacoustic
modelling." Invited presentation at the
Joint Meeting of the Acoustical Society of Japan and the
Acoustical Society of America (96th Meeting), Journal
of the Acoustical Society of America, 64: I (S)
Berkovtiz, R. and G. Abbott (1981) "Loudspeaker evaluation by biophysical
modelling." Presented at 1981 AES
Technical Meeting, New York, (AES Preprint No. 1711).
Stevens, K.N., R. Berkovitz, G. Kidd, Jr. and D.M. Green (1987) "Calibration
of ear canals for audiometry at high
frequencies." Journal of the Acoustical Society of America.
81, (2), 470-484.
Berkovitz, R. (1988) "Control of localization in music recording and
reproduction." Presented at CHABA symposium,
"Sound Localization by Human," National Academy of Sciences,
Washington D.C. October 1988.
Berkovitz, R. and K.N. Stevens (1988) "Experimental assessment of a method
for calibration of ear canals at high
frequencies." Presented by joint Meeting of the Acoustical
Society of America and the Acoustical Society of
Japan, Honolulu, 1988.
US 3,718,773 (1970) Four channel recording and reproducing
system. (Quadraphonics Corp.).
US 3,949,325 (1974) Audio Equalizer for large rooms (Dolby
US 4,039,755 (1976) Auditorium simulator economics on delay
bandwidth. (Acoustic Research, Inc.)
US 4,074,083 (1975) Stereophonic sound system particularly
useful in a cinema. (Dolby Laboratories, Inc.)
US 4,105,864 (1976) Stereo and spaciousness reverberation
system using random access memory. (Acoustic
US 4,130,726 (1977) Loudspeaker system equalization. (Acoustic
UK 1,546,122 (1976) Difference test equalizer based on subjective
spectral comparison. (Acoustic Research, Inc.)
US 4,458,362 (1982) Automatic time-domain equalization of
audio signals. (Acoustic Research, Inc.)
Post by Anthony Marsh Post by GKnoll
interpretation could not be correct, Speaking of debacles, the CourtTV
experience was a debacle within a debacle. When Berkovitz could not
confirm the W&A result, Don Thomas thought that Robert Berkovitz made a
mistake. Berkovitz sent Thomas his program. Thomas concluded based on
his running of the Berkovitz's program that Berkovitz made a mistake
when he(Berkovitz) applied a correction factor to the tape. Because
Thomas got a better correlation (still much less than the .77
correlation W&A published) when he did not apply a correction factor, he
jumped to the (false) conclusion that the tape Berkovitz was working
with was one that had already been corrected for tape speed. To make
matters worse, Thomas contacted Michael O'Dell and O'Dell told Thomas
that, yes the tape that Berkovitz used was already tape speed corrected.
This feed Thomas's ego, and reinforced in Thomas that the W&A was right.
All of that is wrong. When one looks at the Thomas correlation(the one
he thinks confirms W&A) it is dead-nuts obvious that his correlation is
The second person who analyzed the W&A interpreation was Michael O'Dell
in his paper "Replicationg Weiss and Aschkenay". He did not confirm it,
far from it. O'Dell determined that one needed correction factors of at
least 10% on the tape that Berkovitz used get matches to the echoes that
W&A published in their report. This is obviously contradicts what Thomas
thought he found during the CourtTV. The tape that Thomas thought was
already tape speed corrected, was not.
Who? Is he the guy who invented "Going to the hospital"?
Post by GKnoll
The key problem for those who believe that shots do exist on the tape is
the W&A interpretation and the cliques refusal to follow the evidence
which contradicts that interpretation.
Such as? False information fed by the cover-up? Lies by the DPD to cover
up their mistakes?
How is what they did any different from what you are doing?
You said you confimed W&A's work, and you didn't.
You said Robert Berkovitz was not a acoustic's expert and he was.
And I am not really sure what you are trying to say about Michael ODell.
Post by Anthony Marsh Post by GKnoll
The evidence is there which points to the truth of what happened in this
case, but the acoustic experts have stopped listening.
They offered to do more work and the Justice department said they had no
more wmoney to do any more stories. Seems they had to spend that $50,000
on defending CIA agents accused of torturing babies.
You are just proving my case Marsh.