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So much for critical thinking and evidence...
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Ott Rovgeisha
2017-06-10 01:40:06 UTC
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YES we are under attack by Russia, we do not have any credible,
thougthful, contextual evidence.

As is there is a broken software in the brain that take the substance away
from people. Just a cycle error...

Of course, never even mention hypocrisy...

Also, people do not understand what "communism" means, and those who seem
to have a kind of a grip, confuse communism with the Soviet Regime in
Russia, that had little to do with communism...


Basically, people say: we do not really know, but the main stream media
tells us so that Trump is Putin's puppet and Putin is evil.

Oh, they also do not get what "colluding" means. It is SOmETHING EVIL,
that is for sure..

Propaganda and journalism is confused, opinion and facts confused...

So it is between good and evil, not what is thoughtul, useful etc.

Also, i wish I had a dollar for each time USA has meddled in foreign
elections...

P.S What the French president Macron does, seems to be interesting, a
fresh approach.
Anthony Marsh
2017-06-10 17:35:26 UTC
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http://youtu.be/5qsOiZNEzvs
YES we are under attack by Russia, we do not have any credible,
thougthful, contextual evidence.
As is there is a broken software in the brain that take the substance away
from people. Just a cycle error...
Of course, never even mention hypocrisy...
Also, people do not understand what "communism" means, and those who seem
to have a kind of a grip, confuse communism with the Soviet Regime in
Russia, that had little to do with communism...
Maybe you're still stuck in the 20th century. Communism is dead.
Post by Ott Rovgeisha
Basically, people say: we do not really know, but the main stream media
tells us so that Trump is Putin's puppet and Putin is evil.
Yeah, so what? That doesn't make Trump evil, just stupid.
Post by Ott Rovgeisha
Oh, they also do not get what "colluding" means. It is SOmETHING EVIL,
that is for sure..
Propaganda and journalism is confused, opinion and facts confused...
So it is between good and evil, not what is thoughtul, useful etc.
Also, i wish I had a dollar for each time USA has meddled in foreign
elections...
P.S What the French president Macron does, seems to be interesting, a
fresh approach.
BOZ
2017-06-11 21:11:41 UTC
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Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by Ott Rovgeisha
http://youtu.be/5qsOiZNEzvs
YES we are under attack by Russia, we do not have any credible,
thougthful, contextual evidence.
As is there is a broken software in the brain that take the substance away
from people. Just a cycle error...
Of course, never even mention hypocrisy...
Also, people do not understand what "communism" means, and those who seem
to have a kind of a grip, confuse communism with the Soviet Regime in
Russia, that had little to do with communism...
Maybe you're still stuck in the 20th century. Communism is dead.
Post by Ott Rovgeisha
Basically, people say: we do not really know, but the main stream media
tells us so that Trump is Putin's puppet and Putin is evil.
Yeah, so what? That doesn't make Trump evil, just stupid.
Post by Ott Rovgeisha
Oh, they also do not get what "colluding" means. It is SOmETHING EVIL,
that is for sure..
Propaganda and journalism is confused, opinion and facts confused...
So it is between good and evil, not what is thoughtul, useful etc.
Also, i wish I had a dollar for each time USA has meddled in foreign
elections...
P.S What the French president Macron does, seems to be interesting, a
fresh approach.
Communism is alive? Name the system in North Korea? What about Cuba? China?
Laos? Socialist Republic of Vietnam?
Ott Rovgeisha
2017-07-29 18:16:47 UTC
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Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by Ott Rovgeisha
http://youtu.be/5qsOiZNEzvs
YES we are under attack by Russia, we do not have any credible,
thougthful, contextual evidence.
As is there is a broken software in the brain that take the substance away
from people. Just a cycle error...
Of course, never even mention hypocrisy...
Also, people do not understand what "communism" means, and those who seem
to have a kind of a grip, confuse communism with the Soviet Regime in
Russia, that had little to do with communism...
Maybe you're still stuck in the 20th century. Communism is dead.
Post by Ott Rovgeisha
Basically, people say: we do not really know, but the main stream media
tells us so that Trump is Putin's puppet and Putin is evil.
Yeah, so what? That doesn't make Trump evil, just stupid.
Post by Ott Rovgeisha
Oh, they also do not get what "colluding" means. It is SOmETHING EVIL,
that is for sure..
Propaganda and journalism is confused, opinion and facts confused...
So it is between good and evil, not what is thoughtul, useful etc.
Also, i wish I had a dollar for each time USA has meddled in foreign
elections...
P.S What the French president Macron does, seems to be interesting, a
fresh approach.
Communism is alive? Name the system in North Korea? What about Cuba? China?
Laos? Socialist Republic of Vietnam?
How about communism inside the US military: free traffic, common, shared
goods etc. All of course, under a stright pyramidic social structure....

I have this feeling that communism AND capitalism, are BOTH dead-ended.
Something entirely different must and probably will be developed.
claviger
2017-07-30 12:52:56 UTC
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Post by BOZ
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by Ott Rovgeisha
http://youtu.be/5qsOiZNEzvs
YES we are under attack by Russia, we do not have any credible,
thougthful, contextual evidence.
As is there is a broken software in the brain that take the substance away
from people. Just a cycle error...
Of course, never even mention hypocrisy...
Also, people do not understand what "communism" means, and those who seem
to have a kind of a grip, confuse communism with the Soviet Regime in
Russia, that had little to do with communism...
Maybe you're still stuck in the 20th century. Communism is dead.
Post by Ott Rovgeisha
Basically, people say: we do not really know, but the main stream media
tells us so that Trump is Putin's puppet and Putin is evil.
Yeah, so what? That doesn't make Trump evil, just stupid.
Post by Ott Rovgeisha
Oh, they also do not get what "colluding" means. It is SOmETHING EVIL,
that is for sure..
Propaganda and journalism is confused, opinion and facts confused...
So it is between good and evil, not what is thoughtul, useful etc.
Also, i wish I had a dollar for each time USA has meddled in foreign
elections...
P.S What the French president Macron does, seems to be interesting, a
fresh approach.
Communism is alive? Name the system in North Korea? What about Cuba? China?
Laos? Socialist Republic of Vietnam?
How about communism inside the US military: free traffic, common, shared
goods etc. All of course, under a stright pyramidic social structure....
I have this feeling that communism AND capitalism, are BOTH dead-ended.
Something entirely different must and probably will be developed.
Capitalism is just a word for freedom to take maximum risk for maximum
gain. Not just risk, but maximum effort for maximum accomplishment.

Socialism is about minimal labor for an average allocation regardless of
effort or risk. There seems to be a significant difference between
tribalism and socialism.

Communism is simply enforced mediocrity. It is unnatural, unproductive,
and unsustainable.
Anthony Marsh
2017-07-31 01:21:36 UTC
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Post by claviger
Post by Ott Rovgeisha
Post by BOZ
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by Ott Rovgeisha
http://youtu.be/5qsOiZNEzvs
YES we are under attack by Russia, we do not have any credible,
thougthful, contextual evidence.
As is there is a broken software in the brain that take the substance away
from people. Just a cycle error...
Of course, never even mention hypocrisy...
Also, people do not understand what "communism" means, and those who seem
to have a kind of a grip, confuse communism with the Soviet Regime in
Russia, that had little to do with communism...
Maybe you're still stuck in the 20th century. Communism is dead.
Post by Ott Rovgeisha
Basically, people say: we do not really know, but the main stream media
tells us so that Trump is Putin's puppet and Putin is evil.
Yeah, so what? That doesn't make Trump evil, just stupid.
Post by Ott Rovgeisha
Oh, they also do not get what "colluding" means. It is SOmETHING EVIL,
that is for sure..
Propaganda and journalism is confused, opinion and facts confused...
So it is between good and evil, not what is thoughtul, useful etc.
Also, i wish I had a dollar for each time USA has meddled in foreign
elections...
P.S What the French president Macron does, seems to be interesting, a
fresh approach.
Communism is alive? Name the system in North Korea? What about Cuba? China?
Laos? Socialist Republic of Vietnam?
How about communism inside the US military: free traffic, common, shared
goods etc. All of course, under a stright pyramidic social structure....
I have this feeling that communism AND capitalism, are BOTH dead-ended.
Something entirely different must and probably will be developed.
Capitalism is just a word for freedom to take maximum risk for maximum
gain. Not just risk, but maximum effort for maximum accomplishment.
You've been sold a bill of goods.
Capitalism is not the same thing as Freedom.
We had the same system as England and fought to be free.
Post by claviger
Socialism is about minimal labor for an average allocation regardless of
effort or risk. There seems to be a significant difference between
tribalism and socialism.
Who say minimal labor? It uses slave labor just as capitalism does.
Post by claviger
Communism is simply enforced mediocrity. It is unnatural, unproductive,
and unsustainable.
It's also dead, BTW.
BOZ
2017-08-01 18:56:01 UTC
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Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by claviger
Post by Ott Rovgeisha
Post by BOZ
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by Ott Rovgeisha
http://youtu.be/5qsOiZNEzvs
YES we are under attack by Russia, we do not have any credible,
thougthful, contextual evidence.
As is there is a broken software in the brain that take the substance away
from people. Just a cycle error...
Of course, never even mention hypocrisy...
Also, people do not understand what "communism" means, and those who seem
to have a kind of a grip, confuse communism with the Soviet Regime in
Russia, that had little to do with communism...
Maybe you're still stuck in the 20th century. Communism is dead.
Post by Ott Rovgeisha
Basically, people say: we do not really know, but the main stream media
tells us so that Trump is Putin's puppet and Putin is evil.
Yeah, so what? That doesn't make Trump evil, just stupid.
Post by Ott Rovgeisha
Oh, they also do not get what "colluding" means. It is SOmETHING EVIL,
that is for sure..
Propaganda and journalism is confused, opinion and facts confused...
So it is between good and evil, not what is thoughtul, useful etc.
Also, i wish I had a dollar for each time USA has meddled in foreign
elections...
P.S What the French president Macron does, seems to be interesting, a
fresh approach.
Communism is alive? Name the system in North Korea? What about Cuba? China?
Laos? Socialist Republic of Vietnam?
How about communism inside the US military: free traffic, common, shared
goods etc. All of course, under a stright pyramidic social structure....
I have this feeling that communism AND capitalism, are BOTH dead-ended.
Something entirely different must and probably will be developed.
Capitalism is just a word for freedom to take maximum risk for maximum
gain. Not just risk, but maximum effort for maximum accomplishment.
You've been sold a bill of goods.
Capitalism is not the same thing as Freedom.
We had the same system as England and fought to be free.
Post by claviger
Socialism is about minimal labor for an average allocation regardless of
effort or risk. There seems to be a significant difference between
tribalism and socialism.
Who say minimal labor? It uses slave labor just as capitalism does.
Post by claviger
Communism is simply enforced mediocrity. It is unnatural, unproductive,
and unsustainable.
It's also dead, BTW.
You prefer North Korea?
Anthony Marsh
2017-08-02 13:44:40 UTC
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Post by Ott Rovgeisha
Post by BOZ
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by Ott Rovgeisha
http://youtu.be/5qsOiZNEzvs
YES we are under attack by Russia, we do not have any credible,
thougthful, contextual evidence.
As is there is a broken software in the brain that take the substance away
from people. Just a cycle error...
Of course, never even mention hypocrisy...
Also, people do not understand what "communism" means, and those who seem
to have a kind of a grip, confuse communism with the Soviet Regime in
Russia, that had little to do with communism...
Maybe you're still stuck in the 20th century. Communism is dead.
Post by Ott Rovgeisha
Basically, people say: we do not really know, but the main stream media
tells us so that Trump is Putin's puppet and Putin is evil.
Yeah, so what? That doesn't make Trump evil, just stupid.
Post by Ott Rovgeisha
Oh, they also do not get what "colluding" means. It is SOmETHING EVIL,
that is for sure..
Propaganda and journalism is confused, opinion and facts confused...
So it is between good and evil, not what is thoughtul, useful etc.
Also, i wish I had a dollar for each time USA has meddled in foreign
elections...
P.S What the French president Macron does, seems to be interesting, a
fresh approach.
Communism is alive? Name the system in North Korea? What about Cuba? China?
Laos? Socialist Republic of Vietnam?
How about communism inside the US military: free traffic, common, shared
goods etc. All of course, under a stright pyramidic social structure....
I have this feeling that communism AND capitalism, are BOTH dead-ended.
Something entirely different must and probably will be developed.
Capitalism is just a word for freedom to take maximum risk for maximum
gain. Not just risk, but maximum effort for maximum accomplishment.
You've been sold a bill of goods.
Capitalism is not the same thing as Freedom.
We had the same system as England and fought to be free.
Post by claviger
Socialism is about minimal labor for an average allocation regardless of
effort or risk. There seems to be a significant difference between
tribalism and socialism.
Who say minimal labor? It uses slave labor just as capitalism does.
Post by claviger
Communism is simply enforced mediocrity. It is unnatural, unproductive,
and unsustainable.
It's also dead, BTW.
You prefer North Korea?
I prefer SOUTH Korea. Better horror movies.
OHLeeRedux
2017-07-31 01:50:25 UTC
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claviger
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Capitalism is just a word for freedom to take maximum risk for maximum
gain. Not just risk, but maximum effort for maximum accomplishment.

Socialism is about minimal labor for an average allocation regardless of
effort or risk. There seems to be a significant difference between
tribalism and socialism.

Communism is simply enforced mediocrity. It is unnatural, unproductive,
and unsustainable.


But, but . . . It has worked so well in practice. [Sarcastic eye roll]
Mark OBLAZNEY
2017-08-01 00:13:13 UTC
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claviger
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Capitalism is just a word for freedom to take maximum risk for maximum
gain. Not just risk, but maximum effort for maximum accomplishment.
Socialism is about minimal labor for an average allocation regardless of
effort or risk. There seems to be a significant difference between
tribalism and socialism.
Communism is simply enforced mediocrity. It is unnatural, unproductive,
and unsustainable.
But, but . . . It has worked so well in practice. [Sarcastic eye roll]
Remember Leon Trotsky +
Anthony Marsh
2017-08-02 13:42:55 UTC
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claviger
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Capitalism is just a word for freedom to take maximum risk for maximum
gain. Not just risk, but maximum effort for maximum accomplishment.
Socialism is about minimal labor for an average allocation regardless of
effort or risk. There seems to be a significant difference between
tribalism and socialism.
Communism is simply enforced mediocrity. It is unnatural, unproductive,
and unsustainable.
But, but . . . It has worked so well in practice. [Sarcastic eye roll]
Remember Leon Trotsky +
But Trotsky wasn't a Stalinist.
Remember who killed Trotsky and why?
Why isn't there an alt.assassination.trotsky dedicated to solving THAT
conspiracy?
Ott Rovgeisha
2017-08-10 21:54:02 UTC
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claviger
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Capitalism is just a word for freedom to take maximum risk for maximum
gain. Not just risk, but maximum effort for maximum accomplishment.
Socialism is about minimal labor for an average allocation regardless of
effort or risk. There seems to be a significant difference between
tribalism and socialism.
Communism is simply enforced mediocrity. It is unnatural, unproductive,
and unsustainable.
But, but . . . It has worked so well in practice. [Sarcastic eye roll]
Remember Leon Trotsky +
But Trotsky wasn't a Stalinist.
Remember who killed Trotsky and why?
Why isn't there an alt.assassination.trotsky dedicated to solving THAT
conspiracy?
That could be because there is no alt.assasination.jfk forum that is
dedicated to solving the conspiracy, and so it is a long shot to hope for
another one.
Jason Burke
2017-08-11 13:58:00 UTC
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claviger
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Capitalism is just a word for freedom to take maximum risk for maximum
gain. Not just risk, but maximum effort for maximum accomplishment.
Socialism is about minimal labor for an average allocation regardless of
effort or risk. There seems to be a significant difference between
tribalism and socialism.
Communism is simply enforced mediocrity. It is unnatural, unproductive,
and unsustainable.
But, but . . . It has worked so well in practice. [Sarcastic eye roll]
Remember Leon Trotsky +
But Trotsky wasn't a Stalinist.
Remember who killed Trotsky and why?
Why isn't there an alt.assassination.trotsky dedicated to solving THAT
conspiracy?
That could be because there is no alt.assasination.jfk forum that is
dedicated to solving the conspiracy, and so it is a long shot to hope for
Gol, durn, "Ott". Maybe if there *was* a conspiracy, you might actually
have something.

But it's just fools pissing in the wind for more'n half a century.
Post by Ott Rovgeisha
another one.
bigdog
2017-08-12 00:31:38 UTC
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claviger
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Capitalism is just a word for freedom to take maximum risk for maximum
gain. Not just risk, but maximum effort for maximum accomplishment.
Socialism is about minimal labor for an average allocation regardless of
effort or risk. There seems to be a significant difference between
tribalism and socialism.
Communism is simply enforced mediocrity. It is unnatural, unproductive,
and unsustainable.
But, but . . . It has worked so well in practice. [Sarcastic eye roll]
Remember Leon Trotsky +
But Trotsky wasn't a Stalinist.
Remember who killed Trotsky and why?
Why isn't there an alt.assassination.trotsky dedicated to solving THAT
conspiracy?
That could be because there is no alt.assasination.jfk forum that is
dedicated to solving the conspiracy, and so it is a long shot to hope for
Gol, durn, "Ott". Maybe if there *was* a conspiracy, you might actually
have something.
But it's just fools pissing in the wind for more'n half a century.
That's why raincoats are standard equipment for conspiracy hobbyists.
BOZ
2017-08-15 02:42:24 UTC
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claviger
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Capitalism is just a word for freedom to take maximum risk for maximum
gain. Not just risk, but maximum effort for maximum accomplishment.
Socialism is about minimal labor for an average allocation regardless of
effort or risk. There seems to be a significant difference between
tribalism and socialism.
Communism is simply enforced mediocrity. It is unnatural, unproductive,
and unsustainable.
But, but . . . It has worked so well in practice. [Sarcastic eye roll]
Remember Leon Trotsky +
But Trotsky wasn't a Stalinist.
Remember who killed Trotsky and why?
Why isn't there an alt.assassination.trotsky dedicated to solving THAT
conspiracy?
That could be because there is no alt.assasination.jfk forum that is
dedicated to solving the conspiracy, and so it is a long shot to hope for
another one.
why dont you start your own leftwing forum

BOZ
2017-07-31 01:43:55 UTC
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Post by Ott Rovgeisha
Post by BOZ
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by Ott Rovgeisha
http://youtu.be/5qsOiZNEzvs
YES we are under attack by Russia, we do not have any credible,
thougthful, contextual evidence.
As is there is a broken software in the brain that take the substance away
from people. Just a cycle error...
Of course, never even mention hypocrisy...
Also, people do not understand what "communism" means, and those who seem
to have a kind of a grip, confuse communism with the Soviet Regime in
Russia, that had little to do with communism...
Maybe you're still stuck in the 20th century. Communism is dead.
Post by Ott Rovgeisha
Basically, people say: we do not really know, but the main stream media
tells us so that Trump is Putin's puppet and Putin is evil.
Yeah, so what? That doesn't make Trump evil, just stupid.
Post by Ott Rovgeisha
Oh, they also do not get what "colluding" means. It is SOmETHING EVIL,
that is for sure..
Propaganda and journalism is confused, opinion and facts confused...
So it is between good and evil, not what is thoughtul, useful etc.
Also, i wish I had a dollar for each time USA has meddled in foreign
elections...
P.S What the French president Macron does, seems to be interesting, a
fresh approach.
Communism is alive? Name the system in North Korea? What about Cuba? China?
Laos? Socialist Republic of Vietnam?
How about communism inside the US military: free traffic, common, shared
goods etc. All of course, under a stright pyramidic social structure....
I have this feeling that communism AND capitalism, are BOTH dead-ended.
Something entirely different must and probably will be developed.
Read Ludwig von Mises.
claviger
2017-08-01 15:11:29 UTC
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Post by Ott Rovgeisha
Post by BOZ
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by Ott Rovgeisha
http://youtu.be/5qsOiZNEzvs
YES we are under attack by Russia, we do not have any credible,
thougthful, contextual evidence.
As is there is a broken software in the brain that take the substance away
from people. Just a cycle error...
Of course, never even mention hypocrisy...
Also, people do not understand what "communism" means, and those who seem
to have a kind of a grip, confuse communism with the Soviet Regime in
Russia, that had little to do with communism...
Maybe you're still stuck in the 20th century. Communism is dead.
Post by Ott Rovgeisha
Basically, people say: we do not really know, but the main stream media
tells us so that Trump is Putin's puppet and Putin is evil.
Yeah, so what? That doesn't make Trump evil, just stupid.
Post by Ott Rovgeisha
Oh, they also do not get what "colluding" means. It is SOmETHING EVIL,
that is for sure..
Propaganda and journalism is confused, opinion and facts confused...
So it is between good and evil, not what is thoughtul, useful etc.
Also, i wish I had a dollar for each time USA has meddled in foreign
elections...
P.S What the French president Macron does, seems to be interesting, a
fresh approach.
Communism is alive? Name the system in North Korea? What about Cuba? China?
Laos? Socialist Republic of Vietnam?
How about communism inside the US military: free traffic, common, shared
goods etc. All of course, under a stright pyramidic social structure....
Since it is volunteer military service the US Armed Forces is subject to
profit motive in terms of signing bonus for reenlistment and trade skills
offered that will provide job opportunities after even one tour of duty or
several tours with enhanced training along the way. After National
Service well trained vets look for the most high paying jobs in the Free
Market. There is no mandatory service after the first tour is over. The
choice is up to each individual soldier, sailor, or airman. There have
been times when a national draft was needed during WWII, Korea, and
Vietnam. There was more controversy and resentment about the last one.
A draft lottery was implemented to make it more democratic. A majority of
eligible citizens do not serve in the armed services preferring college or
trade schools to learn marketable skills in demand.

Other examples of "socialism" are Police, Firefighters, Teachers, and
Government employees. All four can engage in collective bargaining, but
to attract good people competitive compensation plans are required so
there is freedom of choice involved in these service organizations as
well. There is no "do it or else" intimidation like a communist country.
One might argue European socialism is somewhere in-between. The he EU is
a dubious laboratory with all those socialist experiments in disarray.
It is having a meltdown that Germany and the USA must shore up. Half of
the cost of NATO is provided by US taxpayers working is a Free Market
economy.

Even The Nordic Model which is ballyhooed by US socialists has adopted
free market ideas to enhance their economic productivity. I met a guy who
grew up in Copenhagen and loves the city of his birth. He's a pilot for
US oil companies flying back a forth to Panama. I asked if he would
retire in Copenhagen and he said no, it is too expensive. He will stay in
the US or maybe Panama because he enjoys the people, climate, and cost of
living. Evidently socialism has no appeal for him.

Socialism has a tendency to treat people like interchangeable robots
rather than compensate their unique inborn talent, education, or acquired
skills from working a variety of jobs from the ground up. The Free Market
bids for their talent or skillset. Socialism does not seem to have the
dynamics to reward such skills, the reason why more ambitious citizens
immigrate to the USA to achieve their goals.
Post by Ott Rovgeisha
I have this feeling that communism AND capitalism, are BOTH dead-ended.
Something entirely different must and probably will be developed.
If Democrats ever elect a President like Bernie Sanders or Elizabeth
Warren the US economy will tank and join the EU because dysfunctional
misery loves company.
Anthony Marsh
2017-08-02 03:34:33 UTC
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Post by Ott Rovgeisha
http://youtu.be/5qsOiZNEzvs
YES we are under attack by Russia, we do not have any credible,
thougthful, contextual evidence.
As is there is a broken software in the brain that take the substance away
from people. Just a cycle error...
Of course, never even mention hypocrisy...
Also, people do not understand what "communism" means, and those who seem
to have a kind of a grip, confuse communism with the Soviet Regime in
Russia, that had little to do with communism...
Maybe you're still stuck in the 20th century. Communism is dead.
Post by Ott Rovgeisha
Basically, people say: we do not really know, but the main stream media
tells us so that Trump is Putin's puppet and Putin is evil.
Yeah, so what? That doesn't make Trump evil, just stupid.
Post by Ott Rovgeisha
Oh, they also do not get what "colluding" means. It is SOmETHING EVIL,
that is for sure..
Propaganda and journalism is confused, opinion and facts confused...
So it is between good and evil, not what is thoughtul, useful etc.
Also, i wish I had a dollar for each time USA has meddled in foreign
elections...
P.S What the French president Macron does, seems to be interesting, a
fresh approach.
Communism is alive? Name the system in North Korea? What about Cuba? China?
Laos? Socialist Republic of Vietnam?
How about communism inside the US military: free traffic, common, shared
goods etc. All of course, under a stright pyramidic social structure....
Since it is volunteer military service the US Armed Forces is subject to
profit motive in terms of signing bonus for reenlistment and trade skills
offered that will provide job opportunities after even one tour of duty or
several tours with enhanced training along the way. After National
Service well trained vets look for the most high paying jobs in the Free
Market. There is no mandatory service after the first tour is over. The
choice is up to each individual soldier, sailor, or airman. There have
been times when a national draft was needed during WWII, Korea, and
Vietnam. There was more controversy and resentment about the last one.
A draft lottery was implemented to make it more democratic. A majority of
eligible citizens do not serve in the armed services preferring college or
trade schools to learn marketable skills in demand.
Other examples of "socialism" are Police, Firefighters, Teachers, and
Government employees. All four can engage in collective bargaining, but
to attract good people competitive compensation plans are required so
there is freedom of choice involved in these service organizations as
well. There is no "do it or else" intimidation like a communist country.
One might argue European socialism is somewhere in-between. The he EU is
a dubious laboratory with all those socialist experiments in disarray.
It is having a meltdown that Germany and the USA must shore up. Half of
the cost of NATO is provided by US taxpayers working is a Free Market
economy.
Even The Nordic Model which is ballyhooed by US socialists has adopted
free market ideas to enhance their economic productivity. I met a guy who
grew up in Copenhagen and loves the city of his birth. He's a pilot for
US oil companies flying back a forth to Panama. I asked if he would
retire in Copenhagen and he said no, it is too expensive. He will stay in
the US or maybe Panama because he enjoys the people, climate, and cost of
living. Evidently socialism has no appeal for him.
Socialism has a tendency to treat people like interchangeable robots
rather than compensate their unique inborn talent, education, or acquired
skills from working a variety of jobs from the ground up. The Free Market
bids for their talent or skillset. Socialism does not seem to have the
dynamics to reward such skills, the reason why more ambitious citizens
immigrate to the USA to achieve their goals.
Post by Ott Rovgeisha
I have this feeling that communism AND capitalism, are BOTH dead-ended.
Something entirely different must and probably will be developed.
If Democrats ever elect a President like Bernie Sanders or Elizabeth
Warren the US economy will tank and join the EU because dysfunctional
misery loves company.
Isn't that what you Republicans said about JFK?
Luce wanted him impeached immediately.
BOZ
2017-06-11 03:51:53 UTC
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http://youtu.be/5qsOiZNEzvs
YES we are under attack by Russia, we do not have any credible,
thougthful, contextual evidence.
As is there is a broken software in the brain that take the substance away
from people. Just a cycle error...
Of course, never even mention hypocrisy...
Also, people do not understand what "communism" means, and those who seem
to have a kind of a grip, confuse communism with the Soviet Regime in
Russia, that had little to do with communism...
Basically, people say: we do not really know, but the main stream media
tells us so that Trump is Putin's puppet and Putin is evil.
Oh, they also do not get what "colluding" means. It is SOmETHING EVIL,
that is for sure..
Propaganda and journalism is confused, opinion and facts confused...
So it is between good and evil, not what is thoughtul, useful etc.
Also, i wish I had a dollar for each time USA has meddled in foreign
elections...
P.S What the French president Macron does, seems to be interesting, a
fresh approach.
Macron is a socialist. What is fresh about socialism?
Ott Rovgeisha
2017-07-29 18:16:10 UTC
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Post by Ott Rovgeisha
http://youtu.be/5qsOiZNEzvs
YES we are under attack by Russia, we do not have any credible,
thougthful, contextual evidence.
As is there is a broken software in the brain that take the substance away
from people. Just a cycle error...
Of course, never even mention hypocrisy...
Also, people do not understand what "communism" means, and those who seem
to have a kind of a grip, confuse communism with the Soviet Regime in
Russia, that had little to do with communism...
Basically, people say: we do not really know, but the main stream media
tells us so that Trump is Putin's puppet and Putin is evil.
Oh, they also do not get what "colluding" means. It is SOmETHING EVIL,
that is for sure..
Propaganda and journalism is confused, opinion and facts confused...
So it is between good and evil, not what is thoughtul, useful etc.
Also, i wish I had a dollar for each time USA has meddled in foreign
elections...
P.S What the French president Macron does, seems to be interesting, a
fresh approach.
Macron is a socialist. What is fresh about socialism?
Don't care about simplified labels that do not explain the world in a
realistic, truthful sense. I care about substance.

Macron seems to be able to talk to Putin AND Trump in a straight no
bullshit, yet respectable manner. He seems not engage in a narcissistic
rant about so called "Western values" as a pretext for childish
fingerpointing, as has been so common lately in the world. He seems to
engage in critical thinking and seems to be able to differentiate between
propaganda and journalism, seems to be able to put facts into work, seems
to be able to tell the difference between policy issues and personal like
or dislikes, seems to have the ability to create partnerships or at least
try, he seems to be able to substantiate logic and extract them from
fallacies, keep opinions and facts separated.

Lately he has talked openly about French Vichy era, saying that this is
ALSO part of France. That takes political courage.

So far, so good. It could get worse later, of course.

Seems to.
BOZ
2017-06-11 03:52:20 UTC
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Post by Ott Rovgeisha
http://youtu.be/5qsOiZNEzvs
YES we are under attack by Russia, we do not have any credible,
thougthful, contextual evidence.
As is there is a broken software in the brain that take the substance away
from people. Just a cycle error...
Of course, never even mention hypocrisy...
Also, people do not understand what "communism" means, and those who seem
to have a kind of a grip, confuse communism with the Soviet Regime in
Russia, that had little to do with communism...
Basically, people say: we do not really know, but the main stream media
tells us so that Trump is Putin's puppet and Putin is evil.
Oh, they also do not get what "colluding" means. It is SOmETHING EVIL,
that is for sure..
Propaganda and journalism is confused, opinion and facts confused...
So it is between good and evil, not what is thoughtul, useful etc.
Also, i wish I had a dollar for each time USA has meddled in foreign
elections...
P.S What the French president Macron does, seems to be interesting, a
fresh approach.
confuse communism with the Soviet Regime in
Russia, that had little to do with communism...

YOU HAVEN'T GOT A CLUE WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT> DO YOU THINK STALIN
SUPPORTED AUSTRIAN ECONOMICS?
bigdog
2017-06-11 03:53:42 UTC
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http://youtu.be/5qsOiZNEzvs
YES we are under attack by Russia, we do not have any credible,
thougthful, contextual evidence.
The Soviets/Russians have been engaging in espianoge against us going back
to the first half of the last century and we have been doing the same to
them. Nothing knew here. It's not as if either country trusts each other.
Obama even spied on our allies.
Post by Ott Rovgeisha
As is there is a broken software in the brain that take the substance away
from people. Just a cycle error...
Of course, never even mention hypocrisy...
Also, people do not understand what "communism" means, and those who seem
to have a kind of a grip, confuse communism with the Soviet Regime in
Russia, that had little to do with communism...
Basically, people say: we do not really know, but the main stream media
tells us so that Trump is Putin's puppet and Putin is evil.
The mainstream media has been engaged in a vendetta against Trump since
the night he was elected. He dashed their hopes and dreams when he denied
Hillary her place on the throne. They haven't forgiven him for that and
they never will. This is why I have largely tuned them out. They have
become as relevant to me as elevator music.
Post by Ott Rovgeisha
Oh, they also do not get what "colluding" means. It is SOmETHING EVIL,
that is for sure..
Colluding is nothing more than one of the excuses Democrats and their
media friends dreamed up to explain why Hillary snatched defeat from the
jaws of victory. She blew it and they don't want to blame her so they
blame everyone and everything else.
Post by Ott Rovgeisha
Propaganda and journalism is confused, opinion and facts confused...
There's not confusion. There is almost no journalism being practiced
anymore. It is almost all propaganda. Mostly from the left but some from
the right.
Post by Ott Rovgeisha
So it is between good and evil, not what is thoughtul, useful etc.
Also, i wish I had a dollar for each time USA has meddled in foreign
elections...
Of course we have. That's what friends are for.
Post by Ott Rovgeisha
P.S What the French president Macron does, seems to be interesting, a
fresh approach.
The only thing the French could teach us is how to surrender to the
Germans. Oh, I guess they know how to cook and make wine too.
donald willis
2017-07-30 01:25:43 UTC
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Post by Ott Rovgeisha
http://youtu.be/5qsOiZNEzvs
YES we are under attack by Russia, we do not have any credible,
thougthful, contextual evidence.
The Soviets/Russians have been engaging in espianoge against us going back
to the first half of the last century and we have been doing the same to
them. Nothing knew here. It's not as if either country trusts each other.
Obama even spied on our allies.
Post by Ott Rovgeisha
As is there is a broken software in the brain that take the substance away
from people. Just a cycle error...
Of course, never even mention hypocrisy...
Also, people do not understand what "communism" means, and those who seem
to have a kind of a grip, confuse communism with the Soviet Regime in
Russia, that had little to do with communism...
Basically, people say: we do not really know, but the main stream media
tells us so that Trump is Putin's puppet and Putin is evil.
The mainstream media has been engaged in a vendetta against Trump since
the night he was elected. He dashed their hopes and dreams when he denied
Hillary her place on the throne. They haven't forgiven him for that and
they never will. This is why I have largely tuned them out. They have
become as relevant to me as elevator music.
There's still Shepard Smith on Fox....
Post by bigdog
Post by Ott Rovgeisha
Oh, they also do not get what "colluding" means. It is SOmETHING EVIL,
that is for sure..
Colluding is nothing more than one of the excuses Democrats and their
media friends dreamed up to explain why Hillary snatched defeat from the
jaws of victory. She blew it and they don't want to blame her so they
blame everyone and everything else.
Post by Ott Rovgeisha
Propaganda and journalism is confused, opinion and facts confused...
There's not confusion. There is almost no journalism being practiced
anymore. It is almost all propaganda. Mostly from the left but some from
the right.
Post by Ott Rovgeisha
So it is between good and evil, not what is thoughtul, useful etc.
Also, i wish I had a dollar for each time USA has meddled in foreign
elections...
Of course we have. That's what friends are for.
Post by Ott Rovgeisha
P.S What the French president Macron does, seems to be interesting, a
fresh approach.
The only thing the French could teach us is how to surrender to the
Germans. Oh, I guess they know how to cook and make wine too.
bigdog
2017-07-31 16:00:02 UTC
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Post by bigdog
Post by Ott Rovgeisha
http://youtu.be/5qsOiZNEzvs
YES we are under attack by Russia, we do not have any credible,
thougthful, contextual evidence.
The Soviets/Russians have been engaging in espianoge against us going back
to the first half of the last century and we have been doing the same to
them. Nothing knew here. It's not as if either country trusts each other.
Obama even spied on our allies.
Post by Ott Rovgeisha
As is there is a broken software in the brain that take the substance away
from people. Just a cycle error...
Of course, never even mention hypocrisy...
Also, people do not understand what "communism" means, and those who seem
to have a kind of a grip, confuse communism with the Soviet Regime in
Russia, that had little to do with communism...
Basically, people say: we do not really know, but the main stream media
tells us so that Trump is Putin's puppet and Putin is evil.
The mainstream media has been engaged in a vendetta against Trump since
the night he was elected. He dashed their hopes and dreams when he denied
Hillary her place on the throne. They haven't forgiven him for that and
they never will. This is why I have largely tuned them out. They have
become as relevant to me as elevator music.
There's still Shepard Smith on Fox....
Shepard Smith is one of Fox's house liberals. While Fox does have some
Trump allies among their talking heads, as an organization they too are
down on Trump for much the same reason as CNN and MSNBC. They wanted
Hillary to win. Fox wanted Jeb Bush. Trump screwed up their plans too.
donald willis
2017-08-01 00:15:54 UTC
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Post by donald willis
Post by bigdog
Post by Ott Rovgeisha
http://youtu.be/5qsOiZNEzvs
YES we are under attack by Russia, we do not have any credible,
thougthful, contextual evidence.
The Soviets/Russians have been engaging in espianoge against us going back
to the first half of the last century and we have been doing the same to
them. Nothing knew here. It's not as if either country trusts each other.
Obama even spied on our allies.
Post by Ott Rovgeisha
As is there is a broken software in the brain that take the substance away
from people. Just a cycle error...
Of course, never even mention hypocrisy...
Also, people do not understand what "communism" means, and those who seem
to have a kind of a grip, confuse communism with the Soviet Regime in
Russia, that had little to do with communism...
Basically, people say: we do not really know, but the main stream media
tells us so that Trump is Putin's puppet and Putin is evil.
The mainstream media has been engaged in a vendetta against Trump since
the night he was elected. He dashed their hopes and dreams when he denied
Hillary her place on the throne. They haven't forgiven him for that and
they never will. This is why I have largely tuned them out. They have
become as relevant to me as elevator music.
There's still Shepard Smith on Fox....
Shepard Smith is one of Fox's house liberals. While Fox does have some
Trump allies among their talking heads, as an organization they too are
down on Trump for much the same reason as CNN and MSNBC. They wanted
Hillary to win. Fox wanted Jeb Bush. Trump screwed up their plans too.
Well, Hannity has certainly adjusted well to the new reality!
Anthony Marsh
2017-08-01 15:06:00 UTC
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Post by donald willis
Post by bigdog
Post by Ott Rovgeisha
http://youtu.be/5qsOiZNEzvs
YES we are under attack by Russia, we do not have any credible,
thougthful, contextual evidence.
The Soviets/Russians have been engaging in espianoge against us going back
to the first half of the last century and we have been doing the same to
them. Nothing knew here. It's not as if either country trusts each other.
Obama even spied on our allies.
Post by Ott Rovgeisha
As is there is a broken software in the brain that take the substance away
from people. Just a cycle error...
Of course, never even mention hypocrisy...
Also, people do not understand what "communism" means, and those who seem
to have a kind of a grip, confuse communism with the Soviet Regime in
Russia, that had little to do with communism...
Basically, people say: we do not really know, but the main stream media
tells us so that Trump is Putin's puppet and Putin is evil.
The mainstream media has been engaged in a vendetta against Trump since
the night he was elected. He dashed their hopes and dreams when he denied
Hillary her place on the throne. They haven't forgiven him for that and
they never will. This is why I have largely tuned them out. They have
become as relevant to me as elevator music.
There's still Shepard Smith on Fox....
Shepard Smith is one of Fox's house liberals. While Fox does have some
Trump allies among their talking heads, as an organization they too are
down on Trump for much the same reason as CNN and MSNBC. They wanted
Hillary to win. Fox wanted Jeb Bush. Trump screwed up their plans too.
Both sides have tokens from the other to APPEAR to be Fair and Balanced.
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