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Recently posted on Youtube - Tedx Talks
Most of what he recites refutes the Lifton body switching theory but he
does repeat the claim/belief that JFK was in a "body bag" when he was
removed from the casket.
If you check the testimony of Edward Reed, X-ray Technician, he
helped bring in the body and he saw it was JFK when the SHIPPING casket
was opened in the morgue. He helped put the body on the table. He
doesn't seem to mention any Richard Lipsey present.
Lipsey doesn't mention Reed either so by your reasoning that means Reed
How easily you forget my point because it disproves you contention.
Edward Reed had others that corroborated what he said. No one
corroborated what Lipsey said, and half of what he said disagreed with his
own statement made closer to the event itself. Remember that I suggested
that you compare Lipsey's statements in the video to his statements in the
Some interesting quotes from that 1978 interview, Lipsey's earliest on the
"Q: I have a question. How did you go from when Air Force One landed? How
did you go from Andrews to Bethesda itself?
LIPSEY: We accompanied General Wehle in a helicopter.
Q: In a helicopter. While the body was being driven?
"Q: Okay, getting back to the bullets themselves, not the bullets
themselves but the entrances, can you just go over again the entrances as
you remember them?
LIPSEY: Alright, as I remember them there was one bullet that went in the
back of the head that exited and blew away part of his face. And that was
sort of high up, not high up but like this little crown on the back of
your head right there, three or four inches above your neck. And then the
other one entered at more of less the top of the neck, the other one
entered more of less at the bottom of the neck.
Q: Okay, so that would be up where the crown, not the top of the head?
LIPSEY: Yeah, the rear crown.
Q: Where that point might be on the skull bone?
Q: Then one approximately several inches lower?
LIPSEY: Well not several but two or three inches lower.
Q: Still in the head? Or what we would call…
LIPSEY: Closer to the neck.
Q: Closer to the neck? And than one in the neck?
LIPSEY: In the lower neck region.
Q: In the back?
LIPSEY: Yeah, the very -- right as the ....
Q: Let's go back over things. Sometimes visual aids you forget. Okay, and
then according to the autopsy doctors they feel the one that entered in the
skull, in the rear of the head, exited the right side of the head?
LIPSEY: The right front, you know, the face. Not the right top, the right
front. The facial part of your face. In other words...
Q: Did that destroy his face at all? You say Presidents Kennedy, was his
LIPSEY: Yeah, the right side. If you looked at him straight. If you looked
at him from the left you couldn’t see anything. If you looked at him
from the right side it was just physically part of it blown away.
Q: So that would be right here?
LIPSEY: Yeah, behind the eye and everything.
Q: Behind the eye? Was it all hair region or was it part of the actual face?
LIPSEY: To the best of my recollection it was part of the hair region and
part of the face region"
There are few discrepancies from the two accounts. In both cases he was
being interviewed so he was responding to the questions asked. Different
questions are going to draw different answers. If he didn't mention
something in one interview that he had in the other it just means he
wasn't asked about that particular item. The only discrepancy I noticed
was a minor one. In the 1978 interview he said he was present for most of
the autopsy, occasionally getting spelled by General Wehle. In the later
interview he said he was present for the entire autopsy, not mentioning
the occasional breaks he took. In both interviews he described the wounds
the same way. Two shot entered from behind. The head shot had exited from
the front right.
OK. Let's look at that bunch of statements. He is saying that partly
the face was destroyed (right side). If the autopsy photos are to be
believed, there was no damage to that area. He said what he heard the
pathologists say, which is that 2 bullets struck the BOH, yet when we look
at the autopsy photo of the BOH, there's nothing there:Loading Image...
Go ahead, look for the bullet entry! When you can't find it, you'll
have to call Lipsey a liar.
And don't forget his mismatch in his HSCA statement and his video.
Now here's a final statement from Lipsey, since you're so determined to
use him as a star witness:
"The ceremonial troop in Washington had been arranged to meet the body at
Andrews. Put it in a hearse. We had a decoy hearse because we knew there
was a mob waiting at Bethesda Naval Hospital. So we got in a couple of
these helicopters with our honor guard when they left and flew over to the
hospital to get there before they did. And when they came in, one of the
hearses went right up to the front door. All of the crowd, of course,
rushed over there. The one with the body in it went around to the back
where the morgue was and we unloaded it. We met them in the back and
unloaded it right there to avoid the news media and the crowd and
And while Lipsey said the casket went by road, there was no choice that
it went by helicopter because it got to the morgue 42 minutes BEFORE the
empty Bronze casket. Lipsey has clearly said there were 2 ambulances, one
was 'decoy', and one went to the back door with the body, and the other
went to the main entrance.