Post by steve Post by Greg Jaynes
But at the end of the day, Dallas was never in the hands of the Italian
Mafia. It always bothers me when people think that Marcello ran anything
in Dallas. He did not.
not even the Italians that did operate there?
I had an interesting set of discussions both with Madeliene Brown
and Fred Bruner who was Patsy Paschalls lawyer and the lawyer
for the doctor in Roe v. Wade.
Neither one thought much of the other. First I had asked Madeleine if
she knew Bruner. She did. She knew him well. She told me a story
about the time Bruner got into a fight with a prosecutor in the court
and got arrested for it. She told me how a bunch of people she knew
all thought it was funny and they threw in to pay his fine. There was
money collected than was the amount of the fine so they gave the
to Bruner. I asked her what she thought about him and she said he was
"mob lawyer". Well, I thought it was a great story in itself and did
her as to what mob he was a lawyer for.
Bruner had been an assistant district attorney for Henry Wade until
That year he resigned from the DA's office and went into private
That same year he also bought a ranch in Sachse Texas. It's not far
Dallas. Once, I had the occaision to visit the ranch when I drove
there to check on it. Bruner also bought a nice house in Highland
Park which is a ritzy little town completely surrounded by the city of
On the same street Bruner lives on (still last I heard) lives Ross
Perot Jr. and
one street over, the former governor of Texas Bill Clemens. Suffice it
you had to have some cash to be able to buy into the place. Oh, yeah
Jerry Jones lives there now too. So, where did an assistant DA come up
with the kind of cash to buy all this real estate? Maybe Madeleine was
I do not know. But I was curious about it.
I asked Bruner what he thought about Madeleine. He gruffly answered in
dismissive way, "She was a whore". Please note I am just saying what
Bruner told me. I liked Madeleine very much. I asked him If he knew
about her and LBJ. He said he wouldn't be surprised if she had not
spent some time with him but didn't give much credence to there being
relationship. I didn't get the idea he knew for sure and took his
an off the cuff dismissal of the idea.
Then I asked Bruner about the story Madeleine had told me about him
thrown into jail and his friends coming up with the fine money. He
confirmed it and said after they gave him the extra money he thought
slugging Joe Tonnahill again as that is the ADA he got into the fight
So , I knew Madeleine had real and useful information even if the
the relationship with LBJ wasn't true or the story about a party at
house the night before the assassination. I do have to say that with
out a shred
of proof about the LBJ relationship story, I do believe her about it.
But I know
the Murchison party story could not be and is not true.
Oh yeah, this thread is about the mob in Dallas, right? Well, I asked
it specifically mentioning Carlos Marcello. Bruner exploded with an
answer saying "Marcello was out of New Orleans. That's six hundred
I forget off the top of my head as I write this what Marcello's
brothers name is but
Bruner told me he knew him. It was interesting stuff but nothing about
Italian Mafia specifically related to Dallas. So then I asked Bruner
if he knew
Beverly Oliver and he said no. I asked if he knew George McGann who
her husband and he did know him. I asked if he knew R.D. Matthews and
he did. He told me not to mess around with Matthews. Not that I was of
The reason I asked him was that since he knew McGann and McGann and
were associated in I'll just say "whatever" cause I ain't got no
proof. But I will
point out that Beverly wrote about Matthews and McGann in her book.
Al Maddox told me that McGann was "a tough, tough man". I asked him
R.D. Matthews and Maddox knows him and said to tell him hello from Al
next time I saw him. Though I have never met R.D. Matthews. I only
him from Beverly's book, Tom Bowden, and the old Dallas deputies like
OBTW, I have all the stuff with Maddox recorded. I saw him in Dealey
plaza on the
22, and he didn't remember me right off. He is suffering from
Anyway, the point is, there was in Dallas a confederated mob which
refers to as "rounders" in her book. This group which became labeled
Mafia by Capt Macaghren also included people from the State Line mob
the "Walking Tall" saga. But again, I reiterate that none of this had
anything to do
with any Italian Mafia. These were corn fed white boys, Benny Binion
No one can say there was never anyone in Dallas who was in the Mafia.
And that is not what I am saying. But as far as any large scale or
presence, no. Bill Decker wouldn't have allowed it. Dallas was his
He was the biggest bad ass there was around Dallas. May it please God
almighty that he didn't tell any of his deputies that someone was
At the arrest of James Walter Cherry for murdering Buddy Walthers,
asked Deputy Brock "Why didn't you kill him?". Brock answered that
had been children across the street watching.
It's kind of fun to remember up some of these old stories. Though the
way it goes with the overall subject of the assassination, I'm sure
not convinced. But I never lost a minute of sleeping worrying about
anyone of anything. It's enough for me that I know. There is a lot I
but do know how to find out. It's just that it never ends, this trip