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BOZ
2018-04-29 23:52:09 UTC
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claviger
2018-05-02 02:31:23 UTC
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LNs accept Science while CTs respond with their strange versions of
voodoo science that defies the Law of Gravity. To them Newton was
a heretic.
mainframetech
2018-05-03 01:56:37 UTC
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LNs accept Science while CTs respond with their strange versions of
voodoo science that defies the Law of Gravity. To them Newton was
a heretic.
So you have nothing better to do but put out false ad hominem remarks?
As to your comment, I can easily point out the difference between LNs and
CTs by pointing at the 'Single Bullet' THEORY. A theory is a guess that
one hopes is true, as do the LNs. As a proud CT, I'd rather stick to the
facts and witnesses that have proven that the SBT is false.

Chris
bigdog
2018-05-04 12:46:46 UTC
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LNs accept Science while CTs respond with their strange versions of
voodoo science that defies the Law of Gravity. To them Newton was
a heretic.
So you have nothing better to do but put out false ad hominem remarks?
As to your comment, I can easily point out the difference between LNs and
CTs by pointing at the 'Single Bullet' THEORY. A theory is a guess that
one hopes is true, as do the LNs. As a proud CT, I'd rather stick to the
facts and witnesses that have proven that the SBT is false.
"A theory is a guess that one hopes is true"???

The irony in that statement falls on you like a bale of hay.
mainframetech
2018-05-08 01:57:23 UTC
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LNs accept Science while CTs respond with their strange versions of
voodoo science that defies the Law of Gravity. To them Newton was
a heretic.
So you have nothing better to do but put out false ad hominem remarks?
As to your comment, I can easily point out the difference between LNs and
CTs by pointing at the 'Single Bullet' THEORY. A theory is a guess that
one hopes is true, as do the LNs. As a proud CT, I'd rather stick to the
facts and witnesses that have proven that the SBT is false.
"A theory is a guess that one hopes is true"???
The irony in that statement falls on you like a bale of hay.
Yet another OPINION, lacking any example or proof of anything.

Chris
Anthony Marsh
2018-05-04 12:52:51 UTC
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LNs accept Science while CTs respond with their strange versions of
voodoo science that defies the Law of Gravity. To them Newton was
a heretic.
So you have nothing better to do but put out false ad hominem remarks?
As to your comment, I can easily point out the difference between LNs and
CTs by pointing at the 'Single Bullet' THEORY. A theory is a guess that
one hopes is true, as do the LNs. As a proud CT, I'd rather stick to the
facts and witnesses that have proven that the SBT is false.
Chris
Just don't fall into the logic trap of assuming that something must NOT be
true because a WC said it. Sometimes they accidentally stumble onto the
truth.
claviger
2018-05-08 23:41:59 UTC
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LNs accept Science while CTs respond with their strange versions of
voodoo science that defies the Law of Gravity. To them Newton was
a heretic.
So you have nothing better to do but put out false ad hominem remarks?
As to your comment, I can easily point out the difference between LNs and
CTs by pointing at the 'Single Bullet' THEORY.
Theories are developed based on the Scientific Method, something you know
nothing about. The culmination of corroborative evidence points to the
same conclusion. Your guessing games don't qualify as a scientific
theory.
Post by mainframetech
A theory is a guess that one hopes is true, as do the LNs.
Thanks for proving my point. You have no clue what a scientific theory
is.
Post by mainframetech
As a proud CT, I'd rather stick to the facts and witnesses that have proven
that the SBT is false.
Chris
You've never been deer hunting have you?
Anthony Marsh
2018-05-10 18:50:28 UTC
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LNs accept Science while CTs respond with their strange versions of
voodoo science that defies the Law of Gravity. To them Newton was
a heretic.
So you have nothing better to do but put out false ad hominem remarks?
As to your comment, I can easily point out the difference between LNs and
CTs by pointing at the 'Single Bullet' THEORY.
Theories are developed based on the Scientific Method, something you know
nothing about. The culmination of corroborative evidence points to the
same conclusion. Your guessing games don't qualify as a scientific
theory.
Post by mainframetech
A theory is a guess that one hopes is true, as do the LNs.
Thanks for proving my point. You have no clue what a scientific theory
is.
Post by mainframetech
As a proud CT, I'd rather stick to the facts and witnesses that have proven
that the SBT is false.
Chris
You've never been deer hunting have you?
What does that have to do with anything?
claviger
2018-05-21 02:36:43 UTC
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LNs accept Science while CTs respond with their strange versions of
voodoo science that defies the Law of Gravity. To them Newton was
a heretic.
So you have nothing better to do but put out false ad hominem remarks?
As to your comment, I can easily point out the difference between LNs and
CTs by pointing at the 'Single Bullet' THEORY.
Theories are developed based on the Scientific Method, something you know
nothing about. The culmination of corroborative evidence points to the
same conclusion. Your guessing games don't qualify as a scientific
theory.
Post by mainframetech
A theory is a guess that one hopes is true, as do the LNs.
Thanks for proving my point. You have no clue what a scientific theory
is.
Post by mainframetech
As a proud CT, I'd rather stick to the facts and witnesses that have
proven that the SBT is false.
Chris
You've never been deer hunting have you?
What does that have to do with anything?
I can't believe you ask this question.
Anthony Marsh
2018-05-22 22:30:50 UTC
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https://www.nsa.gov/news-features/declassified-documents/jfk/assets/files/jfk00001.pdf
LNs accept Science while CTs respond with their strange versions of
voodoo science that defies the Law of Gravity. To them Newton was
a heretic.
So you have nothing better to do but put out false ad hominem remarks?
As to your comment, I can easily point out the difference between LNs and
CTs by pointing at the 'Single Bullet' THEORY.
Theories are developed based on the Scientific Method, something you know
nothing about. The culmination of corroborative evidence points to the
same conclusion. Your guessing games don't qualify as a scientific
theory.
Post by mainframetech
A theory is a guess that one hopes is true, as do the LNs.
Thanks for proving my point. You have no clue what a scientific theory
is.
Post by mainframetech
As a proud CT, I'd rather stick to the facts and witnesses that have
proven that the SBT is false.
Chris
You've never been deer hunting have you?
What does that have to do with anything?
I can't believe you ask this question.
I can believe that you are not smart enough to answer my questions.
mainframetech
2018-05-17 14:02:00 UTC
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LNs accept Science while CTs respond with their strange versions of
voodoo science that defies the Law of Gravity. To them Newton was
a heretic.
So you have nothing better to do but put out false ad hominem remarks?
As to your comment, I can easily point out the difference between LNs and
CTs by pointing at the 'Single Bullet' THEORY.
Theories are developed based on the Scientific Method, something you know
nothing about. The culmination of corroborative evidence points to the
same conclusion. Your guessing games don't qualify as a scientific
theory.
Post by mainframetech
A theory is a guess that one hopes is true, as do the LNs.
Thanks for proving my point. You have no clue what a scientific theory
is.
Post by mainframetech
As a proud CT, I'd rather stick to the facts and witnesses that have proven
that the SBT is false.
Chris
You've never been deer hunting have you?
You've never been information hunting, have you? And so never found
out that the SBT is completely false. The back wound bullet never left
the body of JFK, and so never hit Connally, and therefore there is NO
'single bullet' THEORY. That info I put out here is all based on fact,
something that MOST theory users relish. If you need the cites and links,
Let me know.

Chris
bigdog
2018-05-18 20:50:37 UTC
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LNs accept Science while CTs respond with their strange versions of
voodoo science that defies the Law of Gravity. To them Newton was
a heretic.
So you have nothing better to do but put out false ad hominem remarks?
As to your comment, I can easily point out the difference between LNs and
CTs by pointing at the 'Single Bullet' THEORY.
Theories are developed based on the Scientific Method, something you know
nothing about. The culmination of corroborative evidence points to the
same conclusion. Your guessing games don't qualify as a scientific
theory.
Post by mainframetech
A theory is a guess that one hopes is true, as do the LNs.
Thanks for proving my point. You have no clue what a scientific theory
is.
Post by mainframetech
As a proud CT, I'd rather stick to the facts and witnesses that have proven
that the SBT is false.
Chris
You've never been deer hunting have you?
You've never been information hunting, have you? And so never found
out that the SBT is completely false. The back wound bullet never left
the body of JFK, and so never hit Connally, and therefore there is NO
'single bullet' THEORY. That info I put out here is all based on fact,
something that MOST theory users relish. If you need the cites and links,
Let me know.
Why don't you just tell us the earth is flat. It would make just as much
sense.
mainframetech
2018-05-19 14:48:35 UTC
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LNs accept Science while CTs respond with their strange versions of
voodoo science that defies the Law of Gravity. To them Newton was
a heretic.
So you have nothing better to do but put out false ad hominem remarks?
As to your comment, I can easily point out the difference between LNs and
CTs by pointing at the 'Single Bullet' THEORY.
Theories are developed based on the Scientific Method, something you know
nothing about. The culmination of corroborative evidence points to the
same conclusion. Your guessing games don't qualify as a scientific
theory.
Post by mainframetech
A theory is a guess that one hopes is true, as do the LNs.
Thanks for proving my point. You have no clue what a scientific theory
is.
Post by mainframetech
As a proud CT, I'd rather stick to the facts and witnesses that have proven
that the SBT is false.
Chris
You've never been deer hunting have you?
You've never been information hunting, have you? And so never found
out that the SBT is completely false. The back wound bullet never left
the body of JFK, and so never hit Connally, and therefore there is NO
'single bullet' THEORY. That info I put out here is all based on fact,
something that MOST theory users relish. If you need the cites and links,
Let me know.
Why don't you just tell us the earth is flat. It would make just as much
sense.
So now you're defending Claviger? Pretending to be Bugliosi?


I notice there was no request for the cites and links. Must be I was
believed for a change.

Chris
bigdog
2018-05-20 01:13:10 UTC
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LNs accept Science while CTs respond with their strange versions of
voodoo science that defies the Law of Gravity. To them Newton was
a heretic.
So you have nothing better to do but put out false ad hominem remarks?
As to your comment, I can easily point out the difference between LNs and
CTs by pointing at the 'Single Bullet' THEORY.
Theories are developed based on the Scientific Method, something you know
nothing about. The culmination of corroborative evidence points to the
same conclusion. Your guessing games don't qualify as a scientific
theory.
Post by mainframetech
A theory is a guess that one hopes is true, as do the LNs.
Thanks for proving my point. You have no clue what a scientific theory
is.
Post by mainframetech
As a proud CT, I'd rather stick to the facts and witnesses that have proven
that the SBT is false.
Chris
You've never been deer hunting have you?
You've never been information hunting, have you? And so never found
out that the SBT is completely false. The back wound bullet never left
the body of JFK, and so never hit Connally, and therefore there is NO
'single bullet' THEORY. That info I put out here is all based on fact,
something that MOST theory users relish. If you need the cites and links,
Let me know.
Why don't you just tell us the earth is flat. It would make just as much
sense.
So now you're defending Claviger? Pretending to be Bugliosi?
I wasn't defending anybody. I was pointing out your nonsense. It's
becoming a full time job.
Post by mainframetech
I notice there was no request for the cites and links. Must be I was
believed for a change.
If that's what you want to believe, go ahead. It seems to be your sole
criteria for what you deem to be credible.
mainframetech
2018-05-22 02:11:05 UTC
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LNs accept Science while CTs respond with their strange versions of
voodoo science that defies the Law of Gravity. To them Newton was
a heretic.
So you have nothing better to do but put out false ad hominem remarks?
As to your comment, I can easily point out the difference between LNs and
CTs by pointing at the 'Single Bullet' THEORY.
Theories are developed based on the Scientific Method, something you know
nothing about. The culmination of corroborative evidence points to the
same conclusion. Your guessing games don't qualify as a scientific
theory.
Post by mainframetech
A theory is a guess that one hopes is true, as do the LNs.
Thanks for proving my point. You have no clue what a scientific theory
is.
Post by mainframetech
As a proud CT, I'd rather stick to the facts and witnesses that have proven
that the SBT is false.
Chris
You've never been deer hunting have you?
You've never been information hunting, have you? And so never found
out that the SBT is completely false. The back wound bullet never left
the body of JFK, and so never hit Connally, and therefore there is NO
'single bullet' THEORY. That info I put out here is all based on fact,
something that MOST theory users relish. If you need the cites and links,
Let me know.
Why don't you just tell us the earth is flat. It would make just as much
sense.
So now you're defending Claviger? Pretending to be Bugliosi?
I wasn't defending anybody. I was pointing out your nonsense. It's
becoming a full time job.
Post by mainframetech
I notice there was no request for the cites and links. Must be I was
believed for a change.
If that's what you want to believe, go ahead. It seems to be your sole
criteria for what you deem to be credible.
Well, you had your chance and didn't take it. You must have been
afraid of what I would show, which you have seen before.

Chris
Steve M. Galbraith
2018-05-19 14:51:45 UTC
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LNs accept Science while CTs respond with their strange versions of
voodoo science that defies the Law of Gravity. To them Newton was
a heretic.
So you have nothing better to do but put out false ad hominem remarks?
As to your comment, I can easily point out the difference between LNs and
CTs by pointing at the 'Single Bullet' THEORY.
Theories are developed based on the Scientific Method, something you know
nothing about. The culmination of corroborative evidence points to the
same conclusion. Your guessing games don't qualify as a scientific
theory.
Post by mainframetech
A theory is a guess that one hopes is true, as do the LNs.
Thanks for proving my point. You have no clue what a scientific theory
is.
Post by mainframetech
As a proud CT, I'd rather stick to the facts and witnesses that have proven
that the SBT is false.
Chris
You've never been deer hunting have you?
You've never been information hunting, have you? And so never found
out that the SBT is completely false. The back wound bullet never left
the body of JFK, and so never hit Connally, and therefore there is NO
'single bullet' THEORY. That info I put out here is all based on fact,
something that MOST theory users relish. If you need the cites and links,
Let me know.
Why don't you just tell us the earth is flat. It would make just as much
sense.
The sniper team used two "short" bullets that went in the back and the
neck just a few inches.

Why? Well the CIA awarded the contract to the lowest bidder. And the
lowest bidder used cheap ammo. Doug Horne said so.

It's fun being a conspiracist; you can just make things up and wing it.
Why worry about making sense?
bigdog
2018-05-20 01:13:33 UTC
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LNs accept Science while CTs respond with their strange versions of
voodoo science that defies the Law of Gravity. To them Newton was
a heretic.
So you have nothing better to do but put out false ad hominem remarks?
As to your comment, I can easily point out the difference between LNs and
CTs by pointing at the 'Single Bullet' THEORY.
Theories are developed based on the Scientific Method, something you know
nothing about. The culmination of corroborative evidence points to the
same conclusion. Your guessing games don't qualify as a scientific
theory.
Post by mainframetech
A theory is a guess that one hopes is true, as do the LNs.
Thanks for proving my point. You have no clue what a scientific theory
is.
Post by mainframetech
As a proud CT, I'd rather stick to the facts and witnesses that have proven
that the SBT is false.
Chris
You've never been deer hunting have you?
You've never been information hunting, have you? And so never found
out that the SBT is completely false. The back wound bullet never left
the body of JFK, and so never hit Connally, and therefore there is NO
'single bullet' THEORY. That info I put out here is all based on fact,
something that MOST theory users relish. If you need the cites and links,
Let me know.
Why don't you just tell us the earth is flat. It would make just as much
sense.
The sniper team used two "short" bullets that went in the back and the
neck just a few inches.
Why? Well the CIA awarded the contract to the lowest bidder. And the
lowest bidder used cheap ammo. Doug Horne said so.
It's fun being a conspiracist; you can just make things up and wing it.
Why worry about making sense?
Whatever needed to have happened for Chris's beliefs to be true must have
happened because he would never consider that his beliefs could be wacky.
mainframetech
2018-05-22 02:00:59 UTC
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LNs accept Science while CTs respond with their strange versions of
voodoo science that defies the Law of Gravity. To them Newton was
a heretic.
So you have nothing better to do but put out false ad hominem remarks?
As to your comment, I can easily point out the difference between LNs and
CTs by pointing at the 'Single Bullet' THEORY.
Theories are developed based on the Scientific Method, something you know
nothing about. The culmination of corroborative evidence points to the
same conclusion. Your guessing games don't qualify as a scientific
theory.
Post by mainframetech
A theory is a guess that one hopes is true, as do the LNs.
Thanks for proving my point. You have no clue what a scientific theory
is.
Post by mainframetech
As a proud CT, I'd rather stick to the facts and witnesses that have proven
that the SBT is false.
Chris
You've never been deer hunting have you?
You've never been information hunting, have you? And so never found
out that the SBT is completely false. The back wound bullet never left
the body of JFK, and so never hit Connally, and therefore there is NO
'single bullet' THEORY. That info I put out here is all based on fact,
something that MOST theory users relish. If you need the cites and links,
Let me know.
Why don't you just tell us the earth is flat. It would make just as much
sense.
The sniper team used two "short" bullets that went in the back and the
neck just a few inches.
Why? Well the CIA awarded the contract to the lowest bidder. And the
lowest bidder used cheap ammo. Doug Horne said so.
It's fun being a conspiracist; you can just make things up and wing it.
Why worry about making sense?
Whatever needed to have happened for Chris's beliefs to be true must have
happened because he would never consider that his beliefs could be wacky.
What happened is what I'm concerned with, and I note that it doesn't
matter to you what actually happened, because it would detract from the
WCR.

Chris
Anthony Marsh
2018-05-20 01:33:18 UTC
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LNs accept Science while CTs respond with their strange versions of
voodoo science that defies the Law of Gravity. To them Newton was
a heretic.
So you have nothing better to do but put out false ad hominem remarks?
As to your comment, I can easily point out the difference between LNs and
CTs by pointing at the 'Single Bullet' THEORY.
Theories are developed based on the Scientific Method, something you know
nothing about. The culmination of corroborative evidence points to the
same conclusion. Your guessing games don't qualify as a scientific
theory.
Post by mainframetech
A theory is a guess that one hopes is true, as do the LNs.
Thanks for proving my point. You have no clue what a scientific theory
is.
Post by mainframetech
As a proud CT, I'd rather stick to the facts and witnesses that have proven
that the SBT is false.
Chris
You've never been deer hunting have you?
You've never been information hunting, have you? And so never found
out that the SBT is completely false. The back wound bullet never left
the body of JFK, and so never hit Connally, and therefore there is NO
'single bullet' THEORY. That info I put out here is all based on fact,
something that MOST theory users relish. If you need the cites and links,
Let me know.
Why don't you just tell us the earth is flat. It would make just as much
sense.
The sniper team used two "short" bullets that went in the back and the
neck just a few inches.
Why? Well the CIA awarded the contract to the lowest bidder. And the
lowest bidder used cheap ammo. Doug Horne said so.
Funny, but the CIA did Award a contract to the highest bidder to make
special ammo for the Carcano. Explosive bullets to be used on Castro.
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It's fun being a conspiracist; you can just make things up and wing it.
Why worry about making sense?
Tell us YOUR favorite SBT.
Anthony Marsh
2018-05-20 18:32:37 UTC
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LNs accept Science while CTs respond with their strange versions of
voodoo science that defies the Law of Gravity. To them Newton was
a heretic.
So you have nothing better to do but put out false ad hominem remarks?
As to your comment, I can easily point out the difference between LNs and
CTs by pointing at the 'Single Bullet' THEORY.
Theories are developed based on the Scientific Method, something you know
nothing about. The culmination of corroborative evidence points to the
same conclusion. Your guessing games don't qualify as a scientific
theory.
Post by mainframetech
A theory is a guess that one hopes is true, as do the LNs.
Thanks for proving my point. You have no clue what a scientific theory
is.
Post by mainframetech
As a proud CT, I'd rather stick to the facts and witnesses that have proven
that the SBT is false.
Chris
You've never been deer hunting have you?
You've never been information hunting, have you? And so never found
out that the SBT is completely false. The back wound bullet never left
the body of JFK, and so never hit Connally, and therefore there is NO
'single bullet' THEORY. That info I put out here is all based on fact,
something that MOST theory users relish. If you need the cites and links,
Let me know.
Why don't you just tell us the earth is flat. It would make just as much
sense.
The sniper team used two "short" bullets that went in the back and the
neck just a few inches.
Why? Well the CIA awarded the contract to the lowest bidder. And the
lowest bidder used cheap ammo. Doug Horne said so.
It's fun being a conspiracist; you can just make things up and wing it.
Why worry about making sense?
Well, at least we don't have to draw a new SBT diagram every week.
You must be so proud of Free Frank Warner.
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LNs accept Science while CTs respond with their strange versions of
voodoo science that defies the Law of Gravity. To them Newton was
a heretic.
So you have nothing better to do but put out false ad hominem remarks?
As to your comment, I can easily point out the difference between LNs and
CTs by pointing at the 'Single Bullet' THEORY.
Theories are developed based on the Scientific Method, something you know
nothing about. The culmination of corroborative evidence points to the
same conclusion. Your guessing games don't qualify as a scientific
theory.
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A theory is a guess that one hopes is true, as do the LNs.
Thanks for proving my point. You have no clue what a scientific theory
is.
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As a proud CT, I'd rather stick to the facts and witnesses that have proven
that the SBT is false.
Chris
You've never been deer hunting have you?
You've never been information hunting, have you? And so never found
out that the SBT is completely false. The back wound bullet never left
the body of JFK, and so never hit Connally, and therefore there is NO
'single bullet' THEORY. That info I put out here is all based on fact,
something that MOST theory users relish. If you need the cites and links,
Let me know.
Why don't you just tell us the earth is flat. It would make just as much
sense.
The sniper team used two "short" bullets that went in the back and the
neck just a few inches.
Why? Well the CIA awarded the contract to the lowest bidder. And the
lowest bidder used cheap ammo. Doug Horne said so.
It's fun being a conspiracist; you can just make things up and wing it.
Why worry about making sense?
Well, at least we don't have to draw a new SBT diagram every week.
You must be so proud of Free Frank Warner.
If you believe the acoustics evidence then I don't see how you can reject
the SBT.
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LNs accept Science while CTs respond with their strange versions of
voodoo science that defies the Law of Gravity. To them Newton was
a heretic.
So you have nothing better to do but put out false ad hominem remarks?
As to your comment, I can easily point out the difference between LNs and
CTs by pointing at the 'Single Bullet' THEORY.
Theories are developed based on the Scientific Method, something you know
nothing about. The culmination of corroborative evidence points to the
same conclusion. Your guessing games don't qualify as a scientific
theory.
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A theory is a guess that one hopes is true, as do the LNs.
Thanks for proving my point. You have no clue what a scientific theory
is.
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As a proud CT, I'd rather stick to the facts and witnesses that have proven
that the SBT is false.
Chris
You've never been deer hunting have you?
You've never been information hunting, have you? And so never found
out that the SBT is completely false. The back wound bullet never left
the body of JFK, and so never hit Connally, and therefore there is NO
'single bullet' THEORY. That info I put out here is all based on fact,
something that MOST theory users relish. If you need the cites and links,
Let me know.
Why don't you just tell us the earth is flat. It would make just as much
sense.
The sniper team used two "short" bullets that went in the back and the
neck just a few inches.
Why? Well the CIA awarded the contract to the lowest bidder. And the
lowest bidder used cheap ammo. Doug Horne said so.
It's fun being a conspiracist; you can just make things up and wing it.
Why worry about making sense?
Well, at least we don't have to draw a new SBT diagram every week.
You must be so proud of Free Frank Warner.
If you believe the acoustics evidence then I don't see how you can reject
the SBT.
Silly. How do you figure that?
You think I prefer the HSCA's SBT over the WC's SBT?
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LNs accept Science while CTs respond with their strange versions of
voodoo science that defies the Law of Gravity. To them Newton was
a heretic.
So you have nothing better to do but put out false ad hominem remarks?
As to your comment, I can easily point out the difference between LNs and
CTs by pointing at the 'Single Bullet' THEORY.
Theories are developed based on the Scientific Method, something you know
nothing about. The culmination of corroborative evidence points to the
same conclusion. Your guessing games don't qualify as a scientific
theory.
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A theory is a guess that one hopes is true, as do the LNs.
Thanks for proving my point. You have no clue what a scientific theory
is.
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As a proud CT, I'd rather stick to the facts and witnesses that have proven
that the SBT is false.
Chris
You've never been deer hunting have you?
You've never been information hunting, have you? And so never found
out that the SBT is completely false. The back wound bullet never left
the body of JFK, and so never hit Connally, and therefore there is NO
'single bullet' THEORY. That info I put out here is all based on fact,
something that MOST theory users relish. If you need the cites and links,
Let me know.
Why don't you just tell us the earth is flat. It would make just as much
sense.
The sniper team used two "short" bullets that went in the back and the
neck just a few inches.
Why? Well the CIA awarded the contract to the lowest bidder. And the
lowest bidder used cheap ammo. Doug Horne said so.
It's fun being a conspiracist; you can just make things up and wing it.
Why worry about making sense?
Well, at least we don't have to draw a new SBT diagram every week.
You must be so proud of Free Frank Warner.
If you believe the acoustics evidence then I don't see how you can reject
the SBT.
And if you don't believe the acoustics evidence, then you can reject
the SBT? That makes sense to you?

Chris
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LNs accept Science while CTs respond with their strange versions of
voodoo science that defies the Law of Gravity. To them Newton was
a heretic.
So you have nothing better to do but put out false ad hominem remarks?
As to your comment, I can easily point out the difference between LNs and
CTs by pointing at the 'Single Bullet' THEORY.
Theories are developed based on the Scientific Method, something you know
nothing about. The culmination of corroborative evidence points to the
same conclusion. Your guessing games don't qualify as a scientific
theory.
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A theory is a guess that one hopes is true, as do the LNs.
Thanks for proving my point. You have no clue what a scientific theory
is.
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As a proud CT, I'd rather stick to the facts and witnesses that have proven
that the SBT is false.
Chris
You've never been deer hunting have you?
You've never been information hunting, have you? And so never found
out that the SBT is completely false. The back wound bullet never left
the body of JFK, and so never hit Connally, and therefore there is NO
'single bullet' THEORY. That info I put out here is all based on fact,
something that MOST theory users relish. If you need the cites and links,
Let me know.
Why don't you just tell us the earth is flat. It would make just as much
sense.
The sniper team used two "short" bullets that went in the back and the
neck just a few inches.
Why? Well the CIA awarded the contract to the lowest bidder. And the
lowest bidder used cheap ammo. Doug Horne said so.
It's fun being a conspiracist; you can just make things up and wing it.
Why worry about making sense?
As usual, you avoid the facts to make jokes about a murder of the
POTUS. LNs tend to feel they can insult and demean anyone that doesn't
believe as they do. There were not 2 "short bullets" which is ridiculous.
There was ONE 'short shot' to the upper back of JFK. The term 'short
shot' was used by one of the witnesses in the case. I repeated it from
him.

Now to correct another of your mass of mistakes, the throat wound was
from the front and was probably stopped by the spine. There was evidence
of someone digging around in the throat wound, probably to remove the
bullet so that it wouldn't be seen to be multiple shooters with differing
weapons. The effort spent to make sure the 'lone nut' scenario was
protected was huge.

Chris
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LNs accept Science while CTs respond with their strange versions of
voodoo science that defies the Law of Gravity. To them Newton was
a heretic.
So you have nothing better to do but put out false ad hominem remarks?
As to your comment, I can easily point out the difference between LNs and
CTs by pointing at the 'Single Bullet' THEORY.
Theories are developed based on the Scientific Method, something you know
nothing about. The culmination of corroborative evidence points to the
same conclusion. Your guessing games don't qualify as a scientific
theory.
Post by mainframetech
A theory is a guess that one hopes is true, as do the LNs.
Thanks for proving my point. You have no clue what a scientific theory
is.
Post by mainframetech
As a proud CT, I'd rather stick to the facts and witnesses that have proven
that the SBT is false.
Chris
You've never been deer hunting have you?
You've never been information hunting, have you? And so never found
out that the SBT is completely false. The back wound bullet never left
the body of JFK, and so never hit Connally, and therefore there is NO
'single bullet' THEORY. That info I put out here is all based on fact,
something that MOST theory users relish. If you need the cites and links,
Let me know.
Why don't you just tell us the earth is flat. It would make just as much
sense.
WC defenders are the Flat Earthers who reject science.
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LNs accept Science while CTs respond with their strange versions of
voodoo science that defies the Law of Gravity. To them Newton was
a heretic.
So you have nothing better to do but put out false ad hominem remarks?
As to your comment, I can easily point out the difference between LNs and
CTs by pointing at the 'Single Bullet' THEORY.
Theories are developed based on the Scientific Method, something you know
nothing about. The culmination of corroborative evidence points to the
same conclusion. Your guessing games don't qualify as a scientific
theory.
Post by mainframetech
A theory is a guess that one hopes is true, as do the LNs.
Thanks for proving my point. You have no clue what a scientific theory
is.
Post by mainframetech
As a proud CT, I'd rather stick to the facts and witnesses that have proven
that the SBT is false.
Chris
You've never been deer hunting have you?
You've never been information hunting, have you? And so never found
out that the SBT is completely false. The back wound bullet never left
the body of JFK, and so never hit Connally, and therefore there is NO
'single bullet' THEORY. That info I put out here is all based on fact,
something that MOST theory users relish. If you need the cites and links,
Let me know.
Why don't you just tell us the earth is flat. It would make just as much
sense.
WC defenders are the Flat Earthers who reject science.




Thank you, Anthony "Trump Sycophant" Marsh.
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LNs accept Science while CTs respond with their strange versions of
voodoo science that defies the Law of Gravity. To them Newton was
a heretic.
So you have nothing better to do but put out false ad hominem remarks?
As to your comment, I can easily point out the difference between LNs and
CTs by pointing at the 'Single Bullet' THEORY.
Theories are developed based on the Scientific Method, something you know
nothing about. The culmination of corroborative evidence points to the
same conclusion. Your guessing games don't qualify as a scientific
theory.
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A theory is a guess that one hopes is true, as do the LNs.
Thanks for proving my point. You have no clue what a scientific theory
is.
Post by mainframetech
As a proud CT, I'd rather stick to the facts and witnesses that have proven
that the SBT is false.
Chris
You've never been deer hunting have you?
You've never been information hunting, have you? And so never found
out that the SBT is completely false. The back wound bullet never left
the body of JFK, and so never hit Connally, and therefore there is NO
'single bullet' THEORY. That info I put out here is all based on fact,
something that MOST theory users relish. If you need the cites and links,
Let me know.
Why don't you just tell us the earth is flat. It would make just as much
sense.
WC defenders are the Flat Earthers who reject science.
YOUR CREDIBILITY DOES NOT EXIST.
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LNs accept Science while CTs respond with their strange versions of
voodoo science that defies the Law of Gravity. To them Newton was
a heretic.
So you have nothing better to do but put out false ad hominem remarks?
As to your comment, I can easily point out the difference between LNs and
CTs by pointing at the 'Single Bullet' THEORY.
Theories are developed based on the Scientific Method, something you know
nothing about. The culmination of corroborative evidence points to the
same conclusion. Your guessing games don't qualify as a scientific
theory.
Post by mainframetech
A theory is a guess that one hopes is true, as do the LNs.
Thanks for proving my point. You have no clue what a scientific theory
is.
Post by mainframetech
As a proud CT, I'd rather stick to the facts and witnesses that have proven
that the SBT is false.
Chris
You've never been deer hunting have you?
You've never been information hunting, have you? And so never found
out that the SBT is completely false. The back wound bullet never left
the body of JFK, and so never hit Connally, and therefore there is NO
'single bullet' THEORY. That info I put out here is all based on fact,
something that MOST theory users relish. If you need the cites and links,
Let me know.
Why don't you just tell us the earth is flat. It would make just as much
sense.
WC defenders are the Flat Earthers who reject science.
CTs reject all legitimate science on this case because
it rains on your playground.
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LNs accept Science while CTs respond with their strange versions of
voodoo science that defies the Law of Gravity. To them Newton was
a heretic.
So you have nothing better to do but put out false ad hominem remarks?
As to your comment, I can easily point out the difference between LNs and
CTs by pointing at the 'Single Bullet' THEORY.
Theories are developed based on the Scientific Method, something you know
nothing about. The culmination of corroborative evidence points to the
same conclusion. Your guessing games don't qualify as a scientific
theory.
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A theory is a guess that one hopes is true, as do the LNs.
Thanks for proving my point. You have no clue what a scientific theory
is.
Post by mainframetech
As a proud CT, I'd rather stick to the facts and witnesses that have proven
that the SBT is false.
Chris
You've never been deer hunting have you?
You've never been information hunting, have you? And so never found
out that the SBT is completely false. The back wound bullet never left
the body of JFK, and so never hit Connally, and therefore there is NO
'single bullet' THEORY. That info I put out here is all based on fact,
something that MOST theory users relish. If you need the cites and links,
Let me know.
Why don't you just tell us the earth is flat. It would make just as much
sense.
WC defenders are the Flat Earthers who reject science.
CTs reject all legitimate science on this case because
it rains on your playground.
LNs deal in only opinions, which they formed long before they dealt
with any facts. I am quite supportive of science, but when I present
parts of the case that are scientific, you ignore it.

Chris
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LNs accept Science while CTs respond with their strange versions of
voodoo science that defies the Law of Gravity. To them Newton was
a heretic.
So you have nothing better to do but put out false ad hominem remarks?
As to your comment, I can easily point out the difference between LNs and
CTs by pointing at the 'Single Bullet' THEORY.
Theories are developed based on the Scientific Method, something you know
nothing about. The culmination of corroborative evidence points to the
same conclusion. Your guessing games don't qualify as a scientific
theory.
Post by mainframetech
A theory is a guess that one hopes is true, as do the LNs.
Thanks for proving my point. You have no clue what a scientific theory
is.
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As a proud CT, I'd rather stick to the facts and witnesses that have proven
that the SBT is false.
Chris
You've never been deer hunting have you?
You've never been information hunting, have you? And so never found
out that the SBT is completely false. The back wound bullet never left
the body of JFK, and so never hit Connally, and therefore there is NO
'single bullet' THEORY. That info I put out here is all based on fact,
something that MOST theory users relish. If you need the cites and links,
Let me know.
Why don't you just tell us the earth is flat. It would make just as much
sense.
WC defenders are the Flat Earthers who reject science.
CTs reject all legitimate science on this case because
it rains on your playground.
LNs deal in only opinions, which they formed long before they dealt
with any facts. I am quite supportive of science, but when I present
parts of the case that are scientific, you ignore it.
Chris
Sad. Really sad.
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2018-05-20 01:33:03 UTC
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The back wound bullet never left the body of JFK, and so never hit Connally,
and therefore there is NO 'single bullet' THEORY.
Chris
If the bullet that caused Kennedy's back wound never exited, where did
that bullet go to? How do you then explain the throat wound? Are you
implying the throat wound was a wound of entrance? If so, where did that
bullet go to? You're asking us to believe there were two magic bullets,
both of which disappeared. If the bullet that stuck Connolly's back didn't
first pass through Kennedy's neck and tumble upon exiting the president,
why was Connolly's back wound elongated and shaped exactly like CE399?
Where is your supporting "physical evidence" that anything other than a
single bullet passing through both Kennedy and Connolly actually occurred?
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The back wound bullet never left the body of JFK, and so never hit Connally,
and therefore there is NO 'single bullet' THEORY.
Chris
If the bullet that caused Kennedy's back wound never exited, where did
that bullet go to? How do you then explain the throat wound? Are you
Is that a serious question or is it just supposed to be rhetorical.
There are a few theories. Take your pick.
Ice Bullet melted.
Got stuck in his throat. Coughed it up.
Fell out into his clothing.
Got pushed out of his back during heart massage.
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implying the throat wound was a wound of entrance? If so, where did that
I think they have no other choice then if they admit that there even was
a throat wound. The autopsy doctors thought it was a tracheotomy done at
Parkland to help the President breath.

The wackiest one I saw was the bullet hit the back of the head and
exited the throat in the front.

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bullet go to? You're asking us to believe there were two magic bullets,
Well, the MAGIC BULLET is only for the one they claim hit Kennedy and then
Connally. You could still have a bullet hit JFK in the back and exit his
throat without being Magic enough to hit Connally. There are other ways to
explain a separate back wound and a separate throat wound. If you get
really desperate you can look up the flechette theory for the throat
wound.
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both of which disappeared. If the bullet that stuck Connolly's back didn't
first pass through Kennedy's neck and tumble upon exiting the president,
why was Connolly's back wound elongated and shaped exactly like CE399?
That is false. The Connally wound was not elongated to the length of CE
399. The Carcano bullets are 1.2 inches long. Connally's wound was 5/8"
long, only about half the length of the bullet. The bullet was not flying
sideways.
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Where is your supporting "physical evidence" that anything other than a
single bullet passing through both Kennedy and Connolly actually occurred?
AH, it's called The Zapruder Film.
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The back wound bullet never left the body of JFK, and so never hit Connally,
and therefore there is NO 'single bullet' THEORY.
Chris
If the bullet that caused Kennedy's back wound never exited, where did
that bullet go to? How do you then explain the throat wound? Are you
Is that a serious question or is it just supposed to be rhetorical.
There are a few theories. Take your pick.
Ice Bullet melted.
Got stuck in his throat. Coughed it up.
Fell out into his clothing.
Got pushed out of his back during heart massage.
Ice bullet? Really. Typical Marsh. When you don't have an answer, you just
get silly. "Stuck in his throat"? Nope. Wasn't found there. "Coughed it
up"? Then where did it go? "Fell out into his clothing"? Then where did it
go? "Got pushed out his back during heart massage"? The where did it go?
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implying the throat wound was a wound of entrance? If so, where did that
I think they have no other choice then if they admit that there even was
a throat wound. The autopsy doctors thought it was a tracheotomy done at
Parkland to help the President breath.
The wackiest one I saw was the bullet hit the back of the head and
exited the throat in the front.
There's no question as to whether or not there was a throat wound. The
doctors at Parkland saw it, and were the ones that told Humes about it.
That cleared up the mystery as to where the bullet that entered the back
went to. If anyone wants to claim that the throat wound was an entrance
wound, they have to then come up with a logical, reasonable explanation as
to where it went.
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bullet go to? You're asking us to believe there were two magic bullets,
Well, the MAGIC BULLET is only for the one they claim hit Kennedy and then
Connally. You could still have a bullet hit JFK in the back and exit his
throat without being Magic enough to hit Connally. There are other ways to
explain a separate back wound and a separate throat wound. If you get
really desperate you can look up the flechette theory for the throat
wound.
If the bullet that went through Kennedy's neck didn't go on to strike
Connolly, where did it go? Did it magically disappear? You're actually
proving my point. To deny the single bullet fact, one has to "get really
desperate" with alternate theories; like ice bullets, flechettes, and
those oh-so-evil deep state villains running amok in Dallas.
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both of which disappeared. If the bullet that stuck Connolly's back didn't
first pass through Kennedy's neck and tumble upon exiting the president,
why was Connolly's back wound elongated and shaped exactly like CE399?
That is false. The Connally wound was not elongated to the length of CE
399. The Carcano bullets are 1.2 inches long. Connally's wound was 5/8"
long, only about half the length of the bullet. The bullet was not flying
sideways.
Even at 5/8 inches, it's longer than the radius of CE399. The wound was
not circular in shape, as one would expect an entrance wound to appear if
made from an unobstructed 6.5mm bullet.
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Post by InsideSparta
Where is your supporting "physical evidence" that anything other than a
single bullet passing through both Kennedy and Connolly actually occurred?
AH, it's called The Zapruder Film.
The Z-film completely corroborates the single bullet fact. Both JFK and
Connolly react at the exact same instant, and one can even see Connolly's
jacket lapel on his right side flap over just after he emerges from the
sign. The position of the two men at the moment the shot strikes them is
perfectly aligned with a shot fired from the 6th floor window piercing
Kennedy and going on to strike Connolly exactly in the location where he
was struck. Thanks for playing.
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The back wound bullet never left the body of JFK, and so never hit Connally,
and therefore there is NO 'single bullet' THEORY.
Chris
If the bullet that caused Kennedy's back wound never exited, where did
that bullet go to? How do you then explain the throat wound? Are you
implying the throat wound was a wound of entrance? If so, where did that
bullet go to? You're asking us to believe there were two magic bullets,
both of which disappeared. If the bullet that stuck Connolly's back didn't
first pass through Kennedy's neck and tumble upon exiting the president,
why was Connolly's back wound elongated and shaped exactly like CE399?
Where is your supporting "physical evidence" that anything other than a
single bullet passing through both Kennedy and Connolly actually occurred?
Thank you for asking in a civilized manner, which is not so common
here. To answer, first, the throat wound was indeed from the front. It
was strangely enlarged far more than the average tracheostomy usually is.
That is probably because Humes and Boswell had orders to remover ALL
bullets and fragments from the body when the body got to them at Bethesda.
Howwever, there is a comment from an X-ray Technician, Jerrol Custer, who
testified as follows:

"When I lifted the body up to take films of
the torso, and the lumbar spine, and the pelvis,
this is when a king-size fragment - I’d say -
estimate around three, four sonometers - fell from
the back. And this is when Dr. Finck come over
with a pair of forceps, picked it up, and took -
That’s the last time I ever saw it.
Now, it was big enough -That’s about,
I’d say, an inch and a half. My finger-my small
finger. First joints."

From: http://aarclibrary.org/publib/jfk/arrb/medical_testimony/pdf/Custer_10-28-97.pdf

Page 53

Sonometer = centimeter, and 3-4 centimeters is long enough to be many
types of bullet.


And to give you more information on the back wound from the autopsy,
which wasn't reported correctly by Humes. Here are the words of Paul
O'Connor, Technologist and member of the autopsy team:

"O'Connor: We started out with a rigid probe and found that it only went
in so far. I'd say maybe an inch and a quarter. It didn't go any further
than that. So we used a malleable probe and bent it a little bit and found
out that the bullet entered the body, went through the intercostal
muscles—the muscles in between the ribs. The bullet went in
through the muscles, didn't touch any of the ribs, arched downwards, hit
the back of the pleural cavity, which encases the lungs, both front and
back. It bounced off that cavity and stopped. It actually went down and
stopped. Went through the ribs and stopped (photo 10). So we didn't know
the track of the bullet until we eviscerated the body later. That's what
happened at that time. We traced the bullet path down and found out it
didn't traverse the body. It did not go in one side and come out the other
side of the body.
Law: You can be reasonably sure of that?
O'Connor: Absolutely.
Law: It was just from the probe then?
O'Connor: Oh yes.
Law: And these doctors knew that?
O'Connor: Absolutely.
Law: While it happened?
O'Connor: Absolutely."

O'Connor is corroborated by the other Technologist James Jenkins.

Chris
InsideSparta
2018-05-23 03:03:15 UTC
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The back wound bullet never left the body of JFK, and so never hit Connally,
and therefore there is NO 'single bullet' THEORY.
Chris
If the bullet that caused Kennedy's back wound never exited, where did
that bullet go to? How do you then explain the throat wound? Are you
implying the throat wound was a wound of entrance? If so, where did that
bullet go to? You're asking us to believe there were two magic bullets,
both of which disappeared. If the bullet that stuck Connolly's back didn't
first pass through Kennedy's neck and tumble upon exiting the president,
why was Connolly's back wound elongated and shaped exactly like CE399?
Where is your supporting "physical evidence" that anything other than a
single bullet passing through both Kennedy and Connolly actually occurred?
Thank you for asking in a civilized manner, which is not so common
here. To answer, first, the throat wound was indeed from the front. It
was strangely enlarged far more than the average tracheostomy usually is.
That is probably because Humes and Boswell had orders to remover ALL
bullets and fragments from the body when the body got to them at Bethesda.
Howwever, there is a comment from an X-ray Technician, Jerrol Custer, who
"When I lifted the body up to take films of
the torso, and the lumbar spine, and the pelvis,
this is when a king-size fragment - I’d say -
estimate around three, four sonometers - fell from
the back. And this is when Dr. Finck come over
with a pair of forceps, picked it up, and took -
That’s the last time I ever saw it.
Now, it was big enough -That’s about,
I’d say, an inch and a half. My finger-my small
finger. First joints."
From: http://aarclibrary.org/publib/jfk/arrb/medical_testimony/pdf/Custer_10-28-97.pdf
Page 53
Sonometer = centimeter, and 3-4 centimeters is long enough to be many
types of bullet.
And to give you more information on the back wound from the autopsy,
which wasn't reported correctly by Humes. Here are the words of Paul
"O'Connor: We started out with a rigid probe and found that it only went
in so far. I'd say maybe an inch and a quarter. It didn't go any further
than that. So we used a malleable probe and bent it a little bit and found
out that the bullet entered the body, went through the intercostal
muscles—the muscles in between the ribs. The bullet went in
through the muscles, didn't touch any of the ribs, arched downwards, hit
the back of the pleural cavity, which encases the lungs, both front and
back. It bounced off that cavity and stopped. It actually went down and
stopped. Went through the ribs and stopped (photo 10). So we didn't know
the track of the bullet until we eviscerated the body later. That's what
happened at that time. We traced the bullet path down and found out it
didn't traverse the body. It did not go in one side and come out the other
side of the body.
Law: You can be reasonably sure of that?
O'Connor: Absolutely.
Law: It was just from the probe then?
O'Connor: Oh yes.
Law: And these doctors knew that?
O'Connor: Absolutely.
Law: While it happened?
O'Connor: Absolutely."
O'Connor is corroborated by the other Technologist James Jenkins.
Chris
Dr. Pierre Finck ordered the full body x-rays for the purpose of locating
any bullets or their fragments, since it was not realized at the time that
the tracheotomy had obliterated the exit wound that corresponded with the
entrance wound in the back. The x-rays did not reveal a bullet within the
body cavity. Custer's statements to the AARB are in complete disagreement
with the sworn WC and HSCA testimonies of Dr. Finck, and if true, would
make Finck guilty of perjury. That's a pretty tall accusation to make
against Finck,as well as Humes and Boswell. The problem I have with Custer
is he clearly goes outside the bounds of his area of expertise by making
opinion based statements about bullet trajectories. There is also no
corroborating physical evidence in the x-rays or photos that support his
claims of bullet fragments in the neck area, and an entry wound in the eye
area of Kennedy. Nor was their any documentation of this mysterious bullet
fragment that Custer claimed fell out of the president's back. When the
bullet fragments were removed from the head of the president, a receipt
was written up and signed by FBI agents Francis O'Neill and James Sibert.
Where is there any such document for this other phantom bullet fragment?
Why document some fragments but not another? O'Connor's statements that
you cite were made during an interview with an author, and not made during
sworn testimony. Since he was merely a 21 year-old corpsman at the time of
the autopsy, his opinions about the path of the bullet that entered the
back of the president does not carry much weight when juxtaposed alongside
of the official autopsy report that was signed by three pathologists.
Anthony Marsh
2018-05-24 14:35:46 UTC
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The back wound bullet never left the body of JFK, and so never hit Connally,
and therefore there is NO 'single bullet' THEORY.
Chris
If the bullet that caused Kennedy's back wound never exited, where did
that bullet go to? How do you then explain the throat wound? Are you
implying the throat wound was a wound of entrance? If so, where did that
bullet go to? You're asking us to believe there were two magic bullets,
both of which disappeared. If the bullet that stuck Connolly's back didn't
first pass through Kennedy's neck and tumble upon exiting the president,
why was Connolly's back wound elongated and shaped exactly like CE399?
Where is your supporting "physical evidence" that anything other than a
single bullet passing through both Kennedy and Connolly actually occurred?
Thank you for asking in a civilized manner, which is not so common
here. To answer, first, the throat wound was indeed from the front. It
was strangely enlarged far more than the average tracheostomy usually is.
That is probably because Humes and Boswell had orders to remover ALL
bullets and fragments from the body when the body got to them at Bethesda.
Howwever, there is a comment from an X-ray Technician, Jerrol Custer, who
"When I lifted the body up to take films of
the torso, and the lumbar spine, and the pelvis,
this is when a king-size fragment - I’d say -
estimate around three, four sonometers - fell from
the back. And this is when Dr. Finck come over
with a pair of forceps, picked it up, and took -
That’s the last time I ever saw it.
Now, it was big enough -That’s about,
I’d say, an inch and a half. My finger-my small
finger. First joints."
From: http://aarclibrary.org/publib/jfk/arrb/medical_testimony/pdf/Custer_10-28-97.pdf
Page 53
Sonometer = centimeter, and 3-4 centimeters is long enough to be many
types of bullet.
And to give you more information on the back wound from the autopsy,
which wasn't reported correctly by Humes. Here are the words of Paul
"O'Connor: We started out with a rigid probe and found that it only went
in so far. I'd say maybe an inch and a quarter. It didn't go any further
than that. So we used a malleable probe and bent it a little bit and found
out that the bullet entered the body, went through the intercostal
muscles—the muscles in between the ribs. The bullet went in
through the muscles, didn't touch any of the ribs, arched downwards, hit
the back of the pleural cavity, which encases the lungs, both front and
back. It bounced off that cavity and stopped. It actually went down and
stopped. Went through the ribs and stopped (photo 10). So we didn't know
the track of the bullet until we eviscerated the body later. That's what
happened at that time. We traced the bullet path down and found out it
didn't traverse the body. It did not go in one side and come out the other
side of the body.
Law: You can be reasonably sure of that?
O'Connor: Absolutely.
Law: It was just from the probe then?
O'Connor: Oh yes.
Law: And these doctors knew that?
O'Connor: Absolutely.
Law: While it happened?
O'Connor: Absolutely."
O'Connor is corroborated by the other Technologist James Jenkins.
Chris
Dr. Pierre Finck ordered the full body x-rays for the purpose of locating
any bullets or their fragments, since it was not realized at the time that
the tracheotomy had obliterated the exit wound that corresponded with the
entrance wound in the back. The x-rays did not reveal a bullet within the
body cavity. Custer's statements to the AARB are in complete disagreement
with the sworn WC and HSCA testimonies of Dr. Finck, and if true, would
make Finck guilty of perjury. That's a pretty tall accusation to make
So what? Welcome to the real world where even experts lie.
I don't see anything important in Custer's opinions and it doesn't
change the physical facts. Finck could commit perjury and it doesn't
alter the body. We now have the autopsy photographs so we don't have to
choose which person to believe.
Post by InsideSparta
against Finck,as well as Humes and Boswell. The problem I have with Custer
Well, we know that they lied, but we can work around that by the
physical facts.
Post by InsideSparta
is he clearly goes outside the bounds of his area of expertise by making
opinion based statements about bullet trajectories. There is also no
So what? Some days maybe only a janitor is in the right place at the
right time to SEE something important.
Post by InsideSparta
corroborating physical evidence in the x-rays or photos that support his
claims of bullet fragments in the neck area, and an entry wound in the eye
area of Kennedy. Nor was their any documentation of this mysterious bullet
Eye area? What the Hell are you talking about? There was a bullet hole
on the forehead ABOVE the right eye. You can call it an exit wound if
you like, but then you're stuck with an impossible trajectory. SOme of
us know it was an entrance wound.
Post by InsideSparta
fragment that Custer claimed fell out of the president's back. When the
Is that anything like Hoover saying a bullet fell out of the head when
they took the body out of the coffin. Ignore the morons. Look at the
physical evidence.
Post by InsideSparta
bullet fragments were removed from the head of the president, a receipt
was written up and signed by FBI agents Francis O'Neill and James Sibert.
Where is there any such document for this other phantom bullet fragment?
Silly. Where are the documents about an extra fragment removed from
Connally?
Post by InsideSparta
Why document some fragments but not another? O'Connor's statements that
you cite were made during an interview with an author, and not made during
Oversight? Incompetence? Cover-up?
Post by InsideSparta
sworn testimony. Since he was merely a 21 year-old corpsman at the time of
the autopsy, his opinions about the path of the bullet that entered the
back of the president does not carry much weight when juxtaposed alongside
of the official autopsy report that was signed by three pathologists.
I don't know for sure which -ism you were trying for. Ageism?
SHould we ignore what a child says and let the criminals run free?
You can throw your 3 pathologists in the trash can. The Three Stooges.
InsideSparta
2018-05-25 18:35:57 UTC
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Post by InsideSparta
Post by mainframetech
Post by InsideSparta
The back wound bullet never left the body of JFK, and so never hit Connally,
and therefore there is NO 'single bullet' THEORY.
Chris
If the bullet that caused Kennedy's back wound never exited, where did
that bullet go to? How do you then explain the throat wound? Are you
implying the throat wound was a wound of entrance? If so, where did that
bullet go to? You're asking us to believe there were two magic bullets,
both of which disappeared. If the bullet that stuck Connolly's back didn't
first pass through Kennedy's neck and tumble upon exiting the president,
why was Connolly's back wound elongated and shaped exactly like CE399?
Where is your supporting "physical evidence" that anything other than a
single bullet passing through both Kennedy and Connolly actually occurred?
Thank you for asking in a civilized manner, which is not so common
here. To answer, first, the throat wound was indeed from the front. It
was strangely enlarged far more than the average tracheostomy usually is.
That is probably because Humes and Boswell had orders to remover ALL
bullets and fragments from the body when the body got to them at Bethesda.
Howwever, there is a comment from an X-ray Technician, Jerrol Custer, who
"When I lifted the body up to take films of
the torso, and the lumbar spine, and the pelvis,
this is when a king-size fragment - I’d say -
estimate around three, four sonometers - fell from
the back. And this is when Dr. Finck come over
with a pair of forceps, picked it up, and took -
That’s the last time I ever saw it.
Now, it was big enough -That’s about,
I’d say, an inch and a half. My finger-my small
finger. First joints."
From: http://aarclibrary.org/publib/jfk/arrb/medical_testimony/pdf/Custer_10-28-97.pdf
Page 53
Sonometer = centimeter, and 3-4 centimeters is long enough to be many
types of bullet.
And to give you more information on the back wound from the autopsy,
which wasn't reported correctly by Humes. Here are the words of Paul
"O'Connor: We started out with a rigid probe and found that it only went
in so far. I'd say maybe an inch and a quarter. It didn't go any further
than that. So we used a malleable probe and bent it a little bit and found
out that the bullet entered the body, went through the intercostal
muscles—the muscles in between the ribs. The bullet went in
through the muscles, didn't touch any of the ribs, arched downwards, hit
the back of the pleural cavity, which encases the lungs, both front and
back. It bounced off that cavity and stopped. It actually went down and
stopped. Went through the ribs and stopped (photo 10). So we didn't know
the track of the bullet until we eviscerated the body later. That's what
happened at that time. We traced the bullet path down and found out it
didn't traverse the body. It did not go in one side and come out the other
side of the body.
Law: You can be reasonably sure of that?
O'Connor: Absolutely.
Law: It was just from the probe then?
O'Connor: Oh yes.
Law: And these doctors knew that?
O'Connor: Absolutely.
Law: While it happened?
O'Connor: Absolutely."
O'Connor is corroborated by the other Technologist James Jenkins.
Chris
Dr. Pierre Finck ordered the full body x-rays for the purpose of locating
any bullets or their fragments, since it was not realized at the time that
the tracheotomy had obliterated the exit wound that corresponded with the
entrance wound in the back. The x-rays did not reveal a bullet within the
body cavity. Custer's statements to the AARB are in complete disagreement
with the sworn WC and HSCA testimonies of Dr. Finck, and if true, would
make Finck guilty of perjury. That's a pretty tall accusation to make
So what? Welcome to the real world where even experts lie.
I don't see anything important in Custer's opinions and it doesn't
change the physical facts. Finck could commit perjury and it doesn't
alter the body. We now have the autopsy photographs so we don't have to
choose which person to believe.
Post by InsideSparta
against Finck,as well as Humes and Boswell. The problem I have with Custer
Well, we know that they lied, but we can work around that by the
physical facts.
They lied? Prove it.
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by InsideSparta
is he clearly goes outside the bounds of his area of expertise by making
opinion based statements about bullet trajectories. There is also no
So what? Some days maybe only a janitor is in the right place at the
right time to SEE something important.
And maybe the janitor doesn't know what the heck he's talking about.
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by InsideSparta
corroborating physical evidence in the x-rays or photos that support his
claims of bullet fragments in the neck area, and an entry wound in the eye
area of Kennedy. Nor was their any documentation of this mysterious bullet
Eye area? What the Hell are you talking about? There was a bullet hole
on the forehead ABOVE the right eye. You can call it an exit wound if
you like, but then you're stuck with an impossible trajectory. SOme of
us know it was an entrance wound.
If you "know it was an entrance wound", why can't you prove it? Where's
the ballistic evidence to support you're theory?
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by InsideSparta
fragment that Custer claimed fell out of the president's back. When the
Is that anything like Hoover saying a bullet fell out of the head when
they took the body out of the coffin. Ignore the morons. Look at the
physical evidence.
That's rich. A CT telling us to look at the physical evidence. Cute.
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by InsideSparta
bullet fragments were removed from the head of the president, a receipt
was written up and signed by FBI agents Francis O'Neill and James Sibert.
Where is there any such document for this other phantom bullet fragment?
Silly. Where are the documents about an extra fragment removed from
Connally?
Um, Connally wasn't in the Naval Medical Center at Bethesda that night.
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by InsideSparta
Why document some fragments but not another? O'Connor's statements that
you cite were made during an interview with an author, and not made during
Oversight? Incompetence? Cover-up?
Or better yet, there wasn't any such fragment to document in the first
place.
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by InsideSparta
sworn testimony. Since he was merely a 21 year-old corpsman at the time of
the autopsy, his opinions about the path of the bullet that entered the
back of the president does not carry much weight when juxtaposed alongside
of the official autopsy report that was signed by three pathologists.
I don't know for sure which -ism you were trying for. Ageism?
SHould we ignore what a child says and let the criminals run free?
You can throw your 3 pathologists in the trash can. The Three Stooges.
Go ahead and hang your conspiratorial hat on the 21 year-old x-ray
technician. Let's see where that gets you.
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They lied? Prove it.



Mr. Marsh never proves his accusations for the simple reason that he makes
them up as he goes.

claviger
2018-05-21 02:37:26 UTC
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https://www.nsa.gov/news-features/declassified-documents/jfk/assets/files/jfk00001.pdf
LNs accept Science while CTs respond with their strange versions of
voodoo science that defies the Law of Gravity. To them Newton was
a heretic.
So you have nothing better to do but put out false ad hominem remarks?
As to your comment, I can easily point out the difference between LNs and
CTs by pointing at the 'Single Bullet' THEORY.
Theories are developed based on the Scientific Method, something you know
nothing about. The culmination of corroborative evidence points to the
same conclusion. Your guessing games don't qualify as a scientific
theory.
Post by mainframetech
A theory is a guess that one hopes is true, as do the LNs.
Thanks for proving my point. You have no clue what a scientific theory
is.
Post by mainframetech
As a proud CT, I'd rather stick to the facts and witnesses that have proven
that the SBT is false.
Chris
You've never been deer hunting have you?
You've never been information hunting, have you? And so never found
out that the SBT is completely false. The back wound bullet never left
the body of JFK, and so never hit Connally, and therefore there is NO
'single bullet' THEORY. That info I put out here is all based on fact,
something that MOST theory users relish. If you need the cites and links,
Let me know.
Chris
Complete jabberwocky.
Do you really expect anyone to believe this insipid pablum?
mainframetech
2018-05-22 01:58:01 UTC
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Post by BOZ
https://www.nsa.gov/news-features/declassified-documents/jfk/assets/files/jfk00001.pdf
LNs accept Science while CTs respond with their strange versions of
voodoo science that defies the Law of Gravity. To them Newton was
a heretic.
So you have nothing better to do but put out false ad hominem remarks?
As to your comment, I can easily point out the difference between LNs and
CTs by pointing at the 'Single Bullet' THEORY.
Theories are developed based on the Scientific Method, something you know
nothing about. The culmination of corroborative evidence points to the
same conclusion. Your guessing games don't qualify as a scientific
theory.
Post by mainframetech
A theory is a guess that one hopes is true, as do the LNs.
Thanks for proving my point. You have no clue what a scientific theory
is.
Post by mainframetech
As a proud CT, I'd rather stick to the facts and witnesses that have proven
that the SBT is false.
Chris
You've never been deer hunting have you?
You've never been information hunting, have you? And so never found
out that the SBT is completely false. The back wound bullet never left
the body of JFK, and so never hit Connally, and therefore there is NO
'single bullet' THEORY. That info I put out here is all based on fact,
something that MOST theory users relish. If you need the cites and links,
Let me know.
Chris
Complete jabberwocky.
Do you really expect anyone to believe this insipid pablum?
You must believe me, since you didn't ask for the cites and links.
Having your beliefs of years soiled this way must be terribly painful.

Chris
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