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Anthony Marsh
2018-02-17 14:19:12 UTC
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Bob Mueller made an excellent point in the indictments today which many
people here overlook. Some of the collusion was unwitting. As the KGB
used to say - useful idiots.

I have met John McAdams and I have talked to John McAdams in person.
I know he is not a Russian. But he has been enticed by the extreme
rightwing rhetoric of the Trump supporters and did not realize that they
are not his fellow Americans but actually are Russian agents taught to
mimic American hate groups and sow confusion.

Some of the trolls who post here hiding behind ridiculous aliases may
really just be Russian agents whose job is to use social media to sow
discord, distrust, and hatred.

The fools you see shouting "Lock her up" are not real Americans, they
are actors hired by the Russians to stir up hatred to destroy the US.
Steve Barber
2018-02-18 00:22:28 UTC
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Post by Anthony Marsh
Bob Mueller made an excellent point in the indictments today which many
people here overlook. Some of the collusion was unwitting. As the KGB
used to say - useful idiots.
I have met John McAdams and I have talked to John McAdams in person.
I know he is not a Russian. But he has been enticed by the extreme
rightwing rhetoric of the Trump supporters and did not realize that they
are not his fellow Americans but actually are Russian agents taught to
mimic American hate groups and sow confusion.
Some of the trolls who post here hiding behind ridiculous aliases may
really just be Russian agents whose job is to use social media to sow
discord, distrust, and hatred.
The fools you see shouting "Lock her up" are not real Americans, they
are actors hired by the Russians to stir up hatred to destroy the US.
The leftists have divided America. The democratic party, according to
Joe Biden, was taken over by the Leftist Movement in 1972.

Don't you dare say that people who say "Lock her(Hillary) up" are not
American, Marsh. You President Trump haters are going around screaming at
the sky, and shouting "Lock him up", among other things. The word
"extreme" describes the left, perfectly. Funny thing about you guys on the
violent, hate filled left, though. There are no actors. You are the real
thing and aren't the least bit subtle about it. It's the left who have
divided America, and it's the left are the violent ones and it's the left
who overtook the Democratic party. "Fools"? Look into the mirror, Marsh.
That which you see defines the word.
donald willis
2018-02-18 03:47:17 UTC
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Post by Steve Barber
Post by Anthony Marsh
Bob Mueller made an excellent point in the indictments today which many
people here overlook. Some of the collusion was unwitting. As the KGB
used to say - useful idiots.
I have met John McAdams and I have talked to John McAdams in person.
I know he is not a Russian. But he has been enticed by the extreme
rightwing rhetoric of the Trump supporters and did not realize that they
are not his fellow Americans but actually are Russian agents taught to
mimic American hate groups and sow confusion.
Some of the trolls who post here hiding behind ridiculous aliases may
really just be Russian agents whose job is to use social media to sow
discord, distrust, and hatred.
The fools you see shouting "Lock her up" are not real Americans, they
are actors hired by the Russians to stir up hatred to destroy the US.
The leftists have divided America. The democratic party, according to
Joe Biden, was taken over by the Leftist Movement in 1972.
Don't you dare say that people who say "Lock her(Hillary) up" are not
American, Marsh. You President Trump haters are going around screaming at
the sky, and shouting "Lock him up", among other things. The word
"extreme" describes the left, perfectly. Funny thing about you guys on the
violent, hate filled left, though.
I consider myself more left than right, maybe left-middle. But I have
been embarrassed by the reaction of the activists on the left since
Trump's election. They have behaved as recklessly and irresponsibly as
they predicted the right would have behaved, had Trump lost.

After Trump won, neither Hillary Clinton, nor Barack Obama nor Bernie
Sanders condemned the violence on the left, to my knowledge. They ended
up fulfilling their fears, becoming their fears.... They met the enemy and
they were them.

dcw

PS This is not to excuse Charlottesville

PPS Yes, I voted for Bernie
Anthony Marsh
2018-02-19 01:13:20 UTC
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Post by donald willis
Post by Steve Barber
Post by Anthony Marsh
Bob Mueller made an excellent point in the indictments today which many
people here overlook. Some of the collusion was unwitting. As the KGB
used to say - useful idiots.
I have met John McAdams and I have talked to John McAdams in person.
I know he is not a Russian. But he has been enticed by the extreme
rightwing rhetoric of the Trump supporters and did not realize that they
are not his fellow Americans but actually are Russian agents taught to
mimic American hate groups and sow confusion.
Some of the trolls who post here hiding behind ridiculous aliases may
really just be Russian agents whose job is to use social media to sow
discord, distrust, and hatred.
The fools you see shouting "Lock her up" are not real Americans, they
are actors hired by the Russians to stir up hatred to destroy the US.
The leftists have divided America. The democratic party, according to
Joe Biden, was taken over by the Leftist Movement in 1972.
Don't you dare say that people who say "Lock her(Hillary) up" are not
American, Marsh. You President Trump haters are going around screaming at
the sky, and shouting "Lock him up", among other things. The word
"extreme" describes the left, perfectly. Funny thing about you guys on the
violent, hate filled left, though.
I consider myself more left than right, maybe left-middle. But I have
been embarrassed by the reaction of the activists on the left since
Trump's election. They have behaved as recklessly and irresponsibly as
they predicted the right would have behaved, had Trump lost.
After Trump won, neither Hillary Clinton, nor Barack Obama nor Bernie
Sanders condemned the violence on the left, to my knowledge. They ended
up fulfilling their fears, becoming their fears.... They met the enemy and
they were them.
Violence on the LEFT? WTF are you talking about?
Did the Left walk around with Tiki Torches chanting slogans?
Which rally are you thinking about where the LEFT kill people?
What brand of car does the LEFT drive when it runs over protestors. Does
it have to be a Volvo? Or an Electric car?

Can you tell me the names of the people hanged or beaten to death by the
LEFT last year? Wha kind of gun does the LEFT use for its mass shooting?

Any who employs a false equivalency as you just did self identified as a
Trump supporter.

BTW, when you send me hate e-mails don't forget to translate the Russian
into English. And add some hillbilly words like gander so that it look
authentic.
Post by donald willis
dcw
PS This is not to excuse Charlottesville
PPS Yes, I voted for Bernie
donald willis
2018-02-20 00:05:37 UTC
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Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by donald willis
Post by Steve Barber
Post by Anthony Marsh
Bob Mueller made an excellent point in the indictments today which many
people here overlook. Some of the collusion was unwitting. As the KGB
used to say - useful idiots.
I have met John McAdams and I have talked to John McAdams in person.
I know he is not a Russian. But he has been enticed by the extreme
rightwing rhetoric of the Trump supporters and did not realize that they
are not his fellow Americans but actually are Russian agents taught to
mimic American hate groups and sow confusion.
Some of the trolls who post here hiding behind ridiculous aliases may
really just be Russian agents whose job is to use social media to sow
discord, distrust, and hatred.
The fools you see shouting "Lock her up" are not real Americans, they
are actors hired by the Russians to stir up hatred to destroy the US.
The leftists have divided America. The democratic party, according to
Joe Biden, was taken over by the Leftist Movement in 1972.
Don't you dare say that people who say "Lock her(Hillary) up" are not
American, Marsh. You President Trump haters are going around screaming at
the sky, and shouting "Lock him up", among other things. The word
"extreme" describes the left, perfectly. Funny thing about you guys on the
violent, hate filled left, though.
I consider myself more left than right, maybe left-middle. But I have
been embarrassed by the reaction of the activists on the left since
Trump's election. They have behaved as recklessly and irresponsibly as
they predicted the right would have behaved, had Trump lost.
After Trump won, neither Hillary Clinton, nor Barack Obama nor Bernie
Sanders condemned the violence on the left, to my knowledge. They ended
up fulfilling their fears, becoming their fears.... They met the enemy and
they were them.
Violence on the LEFT? WTF are you talking about?
Remember Berkeley and Oregon and D.C.? Like Clinton, Obama and Sanders,
then, you're silent when it comes to violence from your side? (My side,
too, actually.) Well, yes, you might say that the anti-Trump rallies
which turned violent were infiltrated by organized goons, but the
powers-that-were did not condemn the violence in their aftermaths, whoever
incited it.
Post by Anthony Marsh
Did the Left walk around with Tiki Torches chanting slogans?
Which rally are you thinking about where the LEFT kill people?
What brand of car does the LEFT drive when it runs over protestors. Does
it have to be a Volvo? Or an Electric car?
Gee, this sounds like you're invoking Charlottesville. Did you not see my
postscript re that inexcusable incident?
Post by Anthony Marsh
Can you tell me the names of the people hanged or beaten to death by the
LEFT last year?
The lefties committed more acts of protest violence last year, but, yes,
it was the right that actually killed someone (Charlottesville). And the
reprehensible reaction by Trump was to change the subject from murder to
statues of Robert E. Lee. And that became the stupid national
discussion....
Post by Anthony Marsh
Wha kind of gun does the LEFT use for its mass shooting?
So it was a right winger who shot up that Republican Congressional ball
game last year?

I couldn't vote for a panderer to Goldman Sachs (i.e., Hillary), but it
turned out that Trump imported the whole GS swamp into the administration!
A pox on both their houses!
Post by Anthony Marsh
Any who employs a false equivalency as you just did self identified as a
Trump supporter.
Smile when you say that, pardner! Trump makes me cringe....

Did you not see my other postscript re whom I actually voted for? (See
below.)
Post by Anthony Marsh
BTW, when you send me hate e-mails don't forget to translate the Russian
into English. And add some hillbilly words like gander so that it look
authentic.
You're directing this to someone else, apparently. DNC. No, not the
Democratic National Committee. Does Not Compute....

dcw
Anthony Marsh
2018-02-20 21:07:36 UTC
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Post by donald willis
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by donald willis
Post by Steve Barber
Post by Anthony Marsh
Bob Mueller made an excellent point in the indictments today which many
people here overlook. Some of the collusion was unwitting. As the KGB
used to say - useful idiots.
I have met John McAdams and I have talked to John McAdams in person.
I know he is not a Russian. But he has been enticed by the extreme
rightwing rhetoric of the Trump supporters and did not realize that they
are not his fellow Americans but actually are Russian agents taught to
mimic American hate groups and sow confusion.
Some of the trolls who post here hiding behind ridiculous aliases may
really just be Russian agents whose job is to use social media to sow
discord, distrust, and hatred.
The fools you see shouting "Lock her up" are not real Americans, they
are actors hired by the Russians to stir up hatred to destroy the US.
The leftists have divided America. The democratic party, according to
Joe Biden, was taken over by the Leftist Movement in 1972.
Don't you dare say that people who say "Lock her(Hillary) up" are not
American, Marsh. You President Trump haters are going around screaming at
the sky, and shouting "Lock him up", among other things. The word
"extreme" describes the left, perfectly. Funny thing about you guys on the
violent, hate filled left, though.
I consider myself more left than right, maybe left-middle. But I have
been embarrassed by the reaction of the activists on the left since
Trump's election. They have behaved as recklessly and irresponsibly as
they predicted the right would have behaved, had Trump lost.
After Trump won, neither Hillary Clinton, nor Barack Obama nor Bernie
Sanders condemned the violence on the left, to my knowledge. They ended
up fulfilling their fears, becoming their fears.... They met the enemy and
they were them.
Violence on the LEFT? WTF are you talking about?
Remember Berkeley and Oregon and D.C.? Like Clinton, Obama and Sanders,
then, you're silent when it comes to violence from your side? (My side,
too, actually.) Well, yes, you might say that the anti-Trump rallies
which turned violent were infiltrated by organized goons, but the
powers-that-were did not condemn the violence in their aftermaths, whoever
incited it.
Post by Anthony Marsh
Did the Left walk around with Tiki Torches chanting slogans?
Which rally are you thinking about where the LEFT kill people?
What brand of car does the LEFT drive when it runs over protestors. Does
it have to be a Volvo? Or an Electric car?
Gee, this sounds like you're invoking Charlottesville. Did you not see my
postscript re that inexcusable incident?
Post by Anthony Marsh
Can you tell me the names of the people hanged or beaten to death by the
LEFT last year?
The lefties committed more acts of protest violence last year, but, yes,
it was the right that actually killed someone (Charlottesville). And the
reprehensible reaction by Trump was to change the subject from murder to
statues of Robert E. Lee. And that became the stupid national
discussion....
So you can't answer my questions. That is sign of resignation. Again, what
brand of car do the leftists use to run over protestors? Is it a Volvo or
a Telsa?
Post by donald willis
Post by Anthony Marsh
Wha kind of gun does the LEFT use for its mass shooting?
So it was a right winger who shot up that Republican Congressional ball
game last year?
If you say it was a left-winger what type of gun? SKS.
What about the shooting at the ballpark?

Hodgkinson had participated in the Bernie Sanders presidential campaign
during the 2016 United States presidential election.


Some extreme rightwingers are mad at the Republicans for not being far
enough to the right.
Post by donald willis
I couldn't vote for a panderer to Goldman Sachs (i.e., Hillary), but it
turned out that Trump imported the whole GS swamp into the administration!
A pox on both their houses!
Post by Anthony Marsh
Any who employs a false equivalency as you just did self identified as a
Trump supporter.
Smile when you say that, pardner! Trump makes me cringe....
Did you not see my other postscript re whom I actually voted for? (See
below.)
Post by Anthony Marsh
BTW, when you send me hate e-mails don't forget to translate the Russian
into English. And add some hillbilly words like gander so that it look
authentic.
You're directing this to someone else, apparently. DNC. No, not the
Democratic National Committee. Does Not Compute....
dcw
donald willis
2018-02-21 23:14:57 UTC
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Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by donald willis
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by donald willis
Post by Steve Barber
Post by Anthony Marsh
Bob Mueller made an excellent point in the indictments today which many
people here overlook. Some of the collusion was unwitting. As the KGB
used to say - useful idiots.
I have met John McAdams and I have talked to John McAdams in person.
I know he is not a Russian. But he has been enticed by the extreme
rightwing rhetoric of the Trump supporters and did not realize that they
are not his fellow Americans but actually are Russian agents taught to
mimic American hate groups and sow confusion.
Some of the trolls who post here hiding behind ridiculous aliases may
really just be Russian agents whose job is to use social media to sow
discord, distrust, and hatred.
The fools you see shouting "Lock her up" are not real Americans, they
are actors hired by the Russians to stir up hatred to destroy the US.
The leftists have divided America. The democratic party, according to
Joe Biden, was taken over by the Leftist Movement in 1972.
Don't you dare say that people who say "Lock her(Hillary) up" are not
American, Marsh. You President Trump haters are going around screaming at
the sky, and shouting "Lock him up", among other things. The word
"extreme" describes the left, perfectly. Funny thing about you guys on the
violent, hate filled left, though.
I consider myself more left than right, maybe left-middle. But I have
been embarrassed by the reaction of the activists on the left since
Trump's election. They have behaved as recklessly and irresponsibly as
they predicted the right would have behaved, had Trump lost.
After Trump won, neither Hillary Clinton, nor Barack Obama nor Bernie
Sanders condemned the violence on the left, to my knowledge. They ended
up fulfilling their fears, becoming their fears.... They met the enemy and
they were them.
Violence on the LEFT? WTF are you talking about?
Remember Berkeley and Oregon and D.C.? Like Clinton, Obama and Sanders,
then, you're silent when it comes to violence from your side? (My side,
too, actually.) Well, yes, you might say that the anti-Trump rallies
which turned violent were infiltrated by organized goons, but the
powers-that-were did not condemn the violence in their aftermaths, whoever
incited it.
Post by Anthony Marsh
Did the Left walk around with Tiki Torches chanting slogans?
Which rally are you thinking about where the LEFT kill people?
What brand of car does the LEFT drive when it runs over protestors. Does
it have to be a Volvo? Or an Electric car?
Gee, this sounds like you're invoking Charlottesville. Did you not see my
postscript re that inexcusable incident?
Post by Anthony Marsh
Can you tell me the names of the people hanged or beaten to death by the
LEFT last year?
The lefties committed more acts of protest violence last year, but, yes,
it was the right that actually killed someone (Charlottesville). And the
reprehensible reaction by Trump was to change the subject from murder to
statues of Robert E. Lee. And that became the stupid national
discussion....
So you can't answer my questions.
Look again. I mentioned "Berkeley and Oregon and D.C.". Three answers.

That is sign of resignation. Again, what
Post by Anthony Marsh
brand of car do the leftists use to run over protestors? Is it a Volvo or
a Telsa?
Post by donald willis
Post by Anthony Marsh
Wha kind of gun does the LEFT use for its mass shooting?
So it was a right winger who shot up that Republican Congressional ball
game last year?
If you say it was a left-winger what type of gun?
Wouldn't you say that a left winger would sooner support The Bernie rather
than The Donald or The Hillary? (See yourself, below.)

dcw
Anthony Marsh
2018-02-24 01:22:45 UTC
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Post by donald willis
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by donald willis
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by donald willis
Post by Steve Barber
Post by Anthony Marsh
Bob Mueller made an excellent point in the indictments today which many
people here overlook. Some of the collusion was unwitting. As the KGB
used to say - useful idiots.
I have met John McAdams and I have talked to John McAdams in person.
I know he is not a Russian. But he has been enticed by the extreme
rightwing rhetoric of the Trump supporters and did not realize that they
are not his fellow Americans but actually are Russian agents taught to
mimic American hate groups and sow confusion.
Some of the trolls who post here hiding behind ridiculous aliases may
really just be Russian agents whose job is to use social media to sow
discord, distrust, and hatred.
The fools you see shouting "Lock her up" are not real Americans, they
are actors hired by the Russians to stir up hatred to destroy the US.
The leftists have divided America. The democratic party, according to
Joe Biden, was taken over by the Leftist Movement in 1972.
Don't you dare say that people who say "Lock her(Hillary) up" are not
American, Marsh. You President Trump haters are going around screaming at
the sky, and shouting "Lock him up", among other things. The word
"extreme" describes the left, perfectly. Funny thing about you guys on the
violent, hate filled left, though.
I consider myself more left than right, maybe left-middle. But I have
been embarrassed by the reaction of the activists on the left since
Trump's election. They have behaved as recklessly and irresponsibly as
they predicted the right would have behaved, had Trump lost.
After Trump won, neither Hillary Clinton, nor Barack Obama nor Bernie
Sanders condemned the violence on the left, to my knowledge. They ended
up fulfilling their fears, becoming their fears.... They met the enemy and
they were them.
Violence on the LEFT? WTF are you talking about?
Remember Berkeley and Oregon and D.C.? Like Clinton, Obama and Sanders,
then, you're silent when it comes to violence from your side? (My side,
too, actually.) Well, yes, you might say that the anti-Trump rallies
which turned violent were infiltrated by organized goons, but the
powers-that-were did not condemn the violence in their aftermaths, whoever
incited it.
Post by Anthony Marsh
Did the Left walk around with Tiki Torches chanting slogans?
Which rally are you thinking about where the LEFT kill people?
What brand of car does the LEFT drive when it runs over protestors. Does
it have to be a Volvo? Or an Electric car?
Gee, this sounds like you're invoking Charlottesville. Did you not see my
postscript re that inexcusable incident?
Post by Anthony Marsh
Can you tell me the names of the people hanged or beaten to death by the
LEFT last year?
The lefties committed more acts of protest violence last year, but, yes,
it was the right that actually killed someone (Charlottesville). And the
reprehensible reaction by Trump was to change the subject from murder to
statues of Robert E. Lee. And that became the stupid national
discussion....
So you can't answer my questions.
Look again. I mentioned "Berkeley and Oregon and D.C.". Three answers.
That is sign of resignation. Again, what
Post by Anthony Marsh
brand of car do the leftists use to run over protestors? Is it a Volvo or
a Telsa?
Post by donald willis
Post by Anthony Marsh
Wha kind of gun does the LEFT use for its mass shooting?
So it was a right winger who shot up that Republican Congressional ball
game last year?
If you say it was a left-winger what type of gun?
Wouldn't you say that a left winger would sooner support The Bernie rather
than The Donald or The Hillary? (See yourself, below.)
Of course the more left someone is the more he or she would support Bernie
over Hillary, but only a handful of people were far enough left to support
Jill Stein. I have search high and low and I can't find any lefty who
supports Trump.
Post by donald willis
dcw
XXX
2018-02-19 01:11:36 UTC
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Post by Steve Barber
The leftists have divided America.
and where are the conservatives? They seem to have disappeared completely
Anthony Marsh
2018-02-19 21:21:31 UTC
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?????? The leftists have divided America.
and where are the conservatives? They seem to have disappeared completely
Most of them have left the Republican Party in disgust and are
freelancing.
Anthony Marsh
2018-02-19 02:43:12 UTC
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Post by Steve Barber
Post by Anthony Marsh
Bob Mueller made an excellent point in the indictments today which many
people here overlook. Some of the collusion was unwitting. As the KGB
used to say - useful idiots.
I have met John McAdams and I have talked to John McAdams in person.
I know he is not a Russian. But he has been enticed by the extreme
rightwing rhetoric of the Trump supporters and did not realize that they
are not his fellow Americans but actually are Russian agents taught to
mimic American hate groups and sow confusion.
Some of the trolls who post here hiding behind ridiculous aliases may
really just be Russian agents whose job is to use social media to sow
discord, distrust, and hatred.
The fools you see shouting "Lock her up" are not real Americans, they
are actors hired by the Russians to stir up hatred to destroy the US.
The leftists have divided America. The democratic party, according to
Joe Biden, was taken over by the Leftist Movement in 1972.
Don't you dare say that people who say "Lock her(Hillary) up" are not
American, Marsh. You President Trump haters are going around screaming at
the sky, and shouting "Lock him up", among other things. The word
False, I never said "lock him up." They are only talking about the
criminals already charged and those who pleaded guilty already. I'm sure
they will only get short sentences as long as they cooperate.
Post by Steve Barber
"extreme" describes the left, perfectly. Funny thing about you guys on the
violent, hate filled left, though. There are no actors. You are the real
So you know some leftists from your home state of Ohio who went out
marching with Tiki Torches and ran down protesters with their cars? Give
me their names or call the FBI and tell them. Why the cover-up?
Post by Steve Barber
thing and aren't the least bit subtle about it. It's the left who have
I am not an actor. I played King Kasper in a musical play, but that was
more as a singer than an actor.
Post by Steve Barber
divided America, and it's the left are the violent ones and it's the left
So, you also like to play Trump's game of false equivalency? Which violent
ones on the left? You aren't old enough to remember the Weather
Underground. Again, if you know any violent leftists it is your duty as a
citizen to call the FBI and give them the names. Or are you covering up
for them?
Post by Steve Barber
who overtook the Democratic party. "Fools"? Look into the mirror, Marsh.
FYI, the left was always dominant in the Democratic Party. That is nothing
new. Bernie tried to push it more to the left and was rejected. I am a
Bernie supporter, but the Democratic Party was not yet prepared to go that
far to the left.
Post by Steve Barber
That which you see defines the word.
Hey, man, that's like almost philosophical. Luckily you don't know what
it means.
donald willis
2018-02-20 00:06:38 UTC
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Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by Steve Barber
Post by Anthony Marsh
Bob Mueller made an excellent point in the indictments today which many
people here overlook. Some of the collusion was unwitting. As the KGB
used to say - useful idiots.
I have met John McAdams and I have talked to John McAdams in person.
I know he is not a Russian. But he has been enticed by the extreme
rightwing rhetoric of the Trump supporters and did not realize that they
are not his fellow Americans but actually are Russian agents taught to
mimic American hate groups and sow confusion.
Some of the trolls who post here hiding behind ridiculous aliases may
really just be Russian agents whose job is to use social media to sow
discord, distrust, and hatred.
The fools you see shouting "Lock her up" are not real Americans, they
are actors hired by the Russians to stir up hatred to destroy the US.
The leftists have divided America. The democratic party, according to
Joe Biden, was taken over by the Leftist Movement in 1972.
Don't you dare say that people who say "Lock her(Hillary) up" are not
American, Marsh. You President Trump haters are going around screaming at
the sky, and shouting "Lock him up", among other things. The word
False, I never said "lock him up." They are only talking about the
criminals already charged and those who pleaded guilty already. I'm sure
they will only get short sentences as long as they cooperate.
Post by Steve Barber
"extreme" describes the left, perfectly. Funny thing about you guys on the
violent, hate filled left, though. There are no actors. You are the real
So you know some leftists from your home state of Ohio who went out
marching with Tiki Torches and ran down protesters with their cars? Give
me their names or call the FBI and tell them. Why the cover-up?
Post by Steve Barber
thing and aren't the least bit subtle about it. It's the left who have
I am not an actor. I played King Kasper in a musical play, but that was
more as a singer than an actor.
Post by Steve Barber
divided America, and it's the left are the violent ones and it's the left
So, you also like to play Trump's game of false equivalency? Which violent
ones on the left? You aren't old enough to remember the Weather
Underground. Again, if you know any violent leftists it is your duty as a
citizen to call the FBI and give them the names. Or are you covering up
for them?
Post by Steve Barber
who overtook the Democratic party. "Fools"? Look into the mirror, Marsh.
FYI, the left was always dominant in the Democratic Party. That is nothing
new. Bernie tried to push it more to the left and was rejected. I am a
Bernie supporter, but the Democratic Party was not yet prepared to go that
far to the left.
Me too. I love that he got as far as he did, and Hillary had to
incorporate some of his ideas into her speeches. I mean, it just amazed
me that a self-described socialist was able to get so near the mainstream
of American politics. In the past, "socialist" was the third rail of
same....

I heard Bernie here when he visited Vallejo, CA, of all places. (He
noted, "I didn't think Vallejo was that big"--well, I think his fans came
from all over the Bay Area, this hotbed of socialism.) I liked pretty
much everything he advocated. At the same time, not once, I believe, did
he explain how he was going to pay for everything he (and I) wanted. In
that way, he was like Trump, promising everything, without regard to
funding.... The difference is (well, one difference is) that Trump is a
loudmouthed lout, while Bernie is a loudmouthed sweetie....

In the end, I could not wholeheartedly support any of the three major
candidates, though I voted for Mr. Sanders. In retrospect, I guess I
haven't wholeheartedly supported any Presidential candidate since Robert
Kennedy. A few hours after I cast my first vote after becoming eligible
for voting RK was shot down. Maybe that fact has dampened my enthusiasm
for national politics since then....

dcw
Steve Barber
2018-02-20 00:40:27 UTC
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Raw Message
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by Steve Barber
Post by Anthony Marsh
Bob Mueller made an excellent point in the indictments today which many
people here overlook. Some of the collusion was unwitting. As the KGB
used to say - useful idiots.
I have met John McAdams and I have talked to John McAdams in person.
I know he is not a Russian. But he has been enticed by the extreme
rightwing rhetoric of the Trump supporters and did not realize that they
are not his fellow Americans but actually are Russian agents taught to
mimic American hate groups and sow confusion.
Some of the trolls who post here hiding behind ridiculous aliases may
really just be Russian agents whose job is to use social media to sow
discord, distrust, and hatred.
The fools you see shouting "Lock her up" are not real Americans, they
are actors hired by the Russians to stir up hatred to destroy the US.
The leftists have divided America. The democratic party, according to
Joe Biden, was taken over by the Leftist Movement in 1972.
Don't you dare say that people who say "Lock her(Hillary) up" are not
American, Marsh. You President Trump haters are going around screaming at
the sky, and shouting "Lock him up", among other things. The word
False, I never said "lock him up." They are only talking about the
criminals already charged and those who pleaded guilty already. I'm sure
they will only get short sentences as long as they cooperate.
Who is "they"?
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by Steve Barber
"extreme" describes the left, perfectly. Funny thing about you guys on the
violent, hate filled left, though. There are no actors. You are the real
So you know some leftists from your home state of Ohio who went out
marching with Tiki Torches and ran down protesters with their cars? Give
me their names or call the FBI and tell them. Why the cover-up?
Huh? Make sense, Marsh.
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by Steve Barber
thing and aren't the least bit subtle about it. It's the left who have
I am not an actor. I played King Kasper in a musical play, but that was
more as a singer than an actor.
Where did I say you are an actor--or anyone else for that matter! You
need to read that again.
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by Steve Barber
divided America, and it's the left are the violent ones and it's the left
So, you also like to play Trump's game of false equivalency? Which violent
ones on the left? You aren't old enough to remember the Weather
Underground. Again, if you know any violent leftists it is your duty as a
citizen to call the FBI and give them the names. Or are you covering up
for them?
Why would I be "covering up" for leftists, Marsh? If I had the
opportunity to turn in leftists I wouldn't waste a second in doing so!
We all know that you are a leftist here, you don't have to tell us that.
It's written all over your constant postings and in everything you say.
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by Steve Barber
who overtook the Democratic party. "Fools"? Look into the mirror, Marsh.
FYI, the left was always dominant in the Democratic Party. That is nothing
new. Bernie tried to push it more to the left and was rejected. I am a
Bernie supporter, but the Democratic Party was not yet prepared to go that
far to the left.
Take that up with Biden. He is the person who said the leftists took
over the Democratic party in 1972.
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by Steve Barber
That which you see defines the word.
Hey, man, that's like almost philosophical. Luckily you don't know what
it means.
I know a heck of a lot more than you think, Marsh. You've been warned.
Anthony Marsh
2018-02-20 21:12:21 UTC
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Raw Message
Post by Steve Barber
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by Steve Barber
Post by Anthony Marsh
Bob Mueller made an excellent point in the indictments today which many
people here overlook. Some of the collusion was unwitting. As the KGB
used to say - useful idiots.
I have met John McAdams and I have talked to John McAdams in person.
I know he is not a Russian. But he has been enticed by the extreme
rightwing rhetoric of the Trump supporters and did not realize that they
are not his fellow Americans but actually are Russian agents taught to
mimic American hate groups and sow confusion.
Some of the trolls who post here hiding behind ridiculous aliases may
really just be Russian agents whose job is to use social media to sow
discord, distrust, and hatred.
The fools you see shouting "Lock her up" are not real Americans, they
are actors hired by the Russians to stir up hatred to destroy the US.
The leftists have divided America. The democratic party, according to
Joe Biden, was taken over by the Leftist Movement in 1972.
Don't you dare say that people who say "Lock her(Hillary) up" are not
American, Marsh. You President Trump haters are going around screaming at
the sky, and shouting "Lock him up", among other things. The word
False, I never said "lock him up." They are only talking about the
criminals already charged and those who pleaded guilty already. I'm sure
they will only get short sentences as long as they cooperate.
Who is "they"?
Carter Page, Steve Bannon, Paul Manafort, George Papadopoulos and
Michael Flynn, Felix Sater and Rick Gates.
Post by Steve Barber
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by Steve Barber
"extreme" describes the left, perfectly. Funny thing about you guys on the
violent, hate filled left, though. There are no actors. You are the real
So you know some leftists from your home state of Ohio who went out
marching with Tiki Torches and ran down protesters with their cars? Give
me their names or call the FBI and tell them. Why the cover-up?
Huh? Make sense, Marsh.
Well, we know about the extreme rightwinger from Ohio who ran over that
protestor and killed her. You have lots of them in Ohio. Remember, I still
have relatives in Ohio and I went to college there. So I know how racist a
state it it.

Do YOU know any leftists from Ohio that went marching around then ran over
a protestor and killed he? Here is your chance to use false equivalency
and say the Leftists are as bad as the Rightwingers.
Post by Steve Barber
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by Steve Barber
thing and aren't the least bit subtle about it. It's the left who have
I am not an actor. I played King Kasper in a musical play, but that was
more as a singer than an actor.
Where did I say you are an actor--or anyone else for that matter! You
need to read that again.
Read it again. Some idiot denied that the Russians hired actors. Maybe
the same idiot who denied that Trump hired actors to appear as a crowd
and his event to announce his candidacy.

His campaign would later admit paying $12,000, but given the "modest"
amount, the FEC is exercising discretion and dismissing a complaint he
violated reporting rules.

As Donald Trump gets sworn in as the 45th president of the United States,
the Federal Election Commission has closed the chapter on an investigation
on how his presidential campaign started.

On June 16, 2015, Trump announced he was running for the highest office.
As first detailed in The Hollywood Reporter, the campaign hired actors to
cheer him on. That drew public attention, although it was later
overshadowed by his harsh pronouncement of Mexicans as "rapists." At the
time, Trump's then campaign manager Corey Lewandowski denied paying anyone
to attend the event and said that he had never heard of Extra Mile or
Gotham Government Relations, the two companies that THR reported were
involved in putting out a casting call for people to attend the event.

A few months later, with no disclosures related to this, the American
Democracy Legal Fund filed a complaint, alleging that Trump's campaign
violated the reporting provisions of the Federal Election Campaign Act of
1971.

Donald J. Trump for President, Inc., then admitted paying Gotham $12,000
on Oct. 8, 2015. Gotham reported to the FCC it hired Extra Mile as a
subcontractor to provide support at Trump's announcement. Still, this
doesn't settle the issue because of the allegation that Trump may have
accepted prohibited or excessive contributions from the two companies
involved with hiring the actors.

According to a FEC general counsel's report in March 2016, made public
Thursday, it was "clear" that Trump's campaign "did not pay Gotham for its
services for almost four months after the event, and did not report the
transaction for more than seven months after the event. Thus, Gotham's
apparent extension of credit to the Committee for the services rendered at
the June candidacy announcement may constitute an excessive or prohibited
contribution, and the Committee failed to report the amount it owed Gotham
as a debt."

"However," the report continued, "because of the seemingly modest amount
at issue, we recommend that the Commission exercise its prosecutorial
discretion and dismiss the allegation ..."

That's just what the FEC has done, quietly announcing its decision to
close the file on the complaint on the eve of Trump's inauguration.
Post by Steve Barber
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by Steve Barber
divided America, and it's the left are the violent ones and it's the left
So, you also like to play Trump's game of false equivalency? Which violent
ones on the left? You aren't old enough to remember the Weather
Underground. Again, if you know any violent leftists it is your duty as a
citizen to call the FBI and give them the names. Or are you covering up
for them?
Why would I be "covering up" for leftists, Marsh? If I had the
opportunity to turn in leftists I wouldn't waste a second in doing so!
We all know that you are a leftist here, you don't have to tell us that.
It's written all over your constant postings and in everything you say.
Well, did you need a college education to figure that out?


Again, I said, if YOU want to play the false equivalency game, pick up
the phone and turn in some of these leftwing wing terrorists that you
think are as dangerous as the neo-Nazis.
Post by Steve Barber
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by Steve Barber
who overtook the Democratic party. "Fools"? Look into the mirror, Marsh.
FYI, the left was always dominant in the Democratic Party. That is nothing
new. Bernie tried to push it more to the left and was rejected. I am a
Bernie supporter, but the Democratic Party was not yet prepared to go that
far to the left.
Take that up with Biden. He is the person who said the leftists took
over the Democratic party in 1972.
So what? Was it exactly 1972? Was it in reaction to Nixon.
Again, I reject the lie that JFK was not a leftist.
You attack JFK BECAUSE he was a leftist.
Post by Steve Barber
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by Steve Barber
That which you see defines the word.
Hey, man, that's like almost philosophical. Luckily you don't know what
it means.
I know a heck of a lot more than you think, Marsh. You've been warned.
Oh, so now you want to do Cyber Threats and McAdams allows you to make
them here?
donald willis
2018-02-21 23:14:30 UTC
Permalink
Raw Message
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by Steve Barber
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by Steve Barber
Post by Anthony Marsh
Bob Mueller made an excellent point in the indictments today which many
people here overlook. Some of the collusion was unwitting. As the KGB
used to say - useful idiots.
I have met John McAdams and I have talked to John McAdams in person.
I know he is not a Russian. But he has been enticed by the extreme
rightwing rhetoric of the Trump supporters and did not realize that they
are not his fellow Americans but actually are Russian agents taught to
mimic American hate groups and sow confusion.
Some of the trolls who post here hiding behind ridiculous aliases may
really just be Russian agents whose job is to use social media to sow
discord, distrust, and hatred.
The fools you see shouting "Lock her up" are not real Americans, they
are actors hired by the Russians to stir up hatred to destroy the US.
The leftists have divided America. The democratic party, according to
Joe Biden, was taken over by the Leftist Movement in 1972.
Don't you dare say that people who say "Lock her(Hillary) up" are not
American, Marsh. You President Trump haters are going around screaming at
the sky, and shouting "Lock him up", among other things. The word
False, I never said "lock him up." They are only talking about the
criminals already charged and those who pleaded guilty already. I'm sure
they will only get short sentences as long as they cooperate.
Who is "they"?
Carter Page, Steve Bannon, Paul Manafort, George Papadopoulos and
Michael Flynn, Felix Sater and Rick Gates.
Post by Steve Barber
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by Steve Barber
"extreme" describes the left, perfectly. Funny thing about you guys on the
violent, hate filled left, though. There are no actors. You are the real
So you know some leftists from your home state of Ohio who went out
marching with Tiki Torches and ran down protesters with their cars? Give
me their names or call the FBI and tell them. Why the cover-up?
Huh? Make sense, Marsh.
Well, we know about the extreme rightwinger from Ohio who ran over that
protestor and killed her. You have lots of them in Ohio.
I fondly remember my late father railing against that "Commie" senator
from Ohio, I think his name was Metzenbaum? I did not follow the guy
closely enough to determine what his politics were....

dcw
Anthony Marsh
2018-02-24 01:26:05 UTC
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Raw Message
Post by donald willis
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by Steve Barber
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by Steve Barber
Post by Anthony Marsh
Bob Mueller made an excellent point in the indictments today which many
people here overlook. Some of the collusion was unwitting. As the KGB
used to say - useful idiots.
I have met John McAdams and I have talked to John McAdams in person.
I know he is not a Russian. But he has been enticed by the extreme
rightwing rhetoric of the Trump supporters and did not realize that they
are not his fellow Americans but actually are Russian agents taught to
mimic American hate groups and sow confusion.
Some of the trolls who post here hiding behind ridiculous aliases may
really just be Russian agents whose job is to use social media to sow
discord, distrust, and hatred.
The fools you see shouting "Lock her up" are not real Americans, they
are actors hired by the Russians to stir up hatred to destroy the US.
The leftists have divided America. The democratic party, according to
Joe Biden, was taken over by the Leftist Movement in 1972.
Don't you dare say that people who say "Lock her(Hillary) up" are not
American, Marsh. You President Trump haters are going around screaming at
the sky, and shouting "Lock him up", among other things. The word
False, I never said "lock him up." They are only talking about the
criminals already charged and those who pleaded guilty already. I'm sure
they will only get short sentences as long as they cooperate.
Who is "they"?
Carter Page, Steve Bannon, Paul Manafort, George Papadopoulos and
Michael Flynn, Felix Sater and Rick Gates.
Post by Steve Barber
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by Steve Barber
"extreme" describes the left, perfectly. Funny thing about you guys on the
violent, hate filled left, though. There are no actors. You are the real
So you know some leftists from your home state of Ohio who went out
marching with Tiki Torches and ran down protesters with their cars? Give
me their names or call the FBI and tell them. Why the cover-up?
Huh? Make sense, Marsh.
Well, we know about the extreme rightwinger from Ohio who ran over that
protestor and killed her. You have lots of them in Ohio.
I fondly remember my late father railing against that "Commie" senator
from Ohio, I think his name was Metzenbaum? I did not follow the guy
closely enough to determine what his politics were....
Yes, geography. My relatives were from northern Kentucky and soutern Ohio.
Same problem exists in other state like California where a few 100 miles
makes all the difference.
Post by donald willis
dcw
donald willis
2018-02-25 00:59:14 UTC
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Raw Message
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by donald willis
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by Steve Barber
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by Steve Barber
Post by Anthony Marsh
Bob Mueller made an excellent point in the indictments today which many
people here overlook. Some of the collusion was unwitting. As the KGB
used to say - useful idiots.
I have met John McAdams and I have talked to John McAdams in person.
I know he is not a Russian. But he has been enticed by the extreme
rightwing rhetoric of the Trump supporters and did not realize that they
are not his fellow Americans but actually are Russian agents taught to
mimic American hate groups and sow confusion.
Some of the trolls who post here hiding behind ridiculous aliases may
really just be Russian agents whose job is to use social media to sow
discord, distrust, and hatred.
The fools you see shouting "Lock her up" are not real Americans, they
are actors hired by the Russians to stir up hatred to destroy the US.
The leftists have divided America. The democratic party, according to
Joe Biden, was taken over by the Leftist Movement in 1972.
Don't you dare say that people who say "Lock her(Hillary) up" are not
American, Marsh. You President Trump haters are going around screaming at
the sky, and shouting "Lock him up", among other things. The word
False, I never said "lock him up." They are only talking about the
criminals already charged and those who pleaded guilty already. I'm sure
they will only get short sentences as long as they cooperate.
Who is "they"?
Carter Page, Steve Bannon, Paul Manafort, George Papadopoulos and
Michael Flynn, Felix Sater and Rick Gates.
Post by Steve Barber
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by Steve Barber
"extreme" describes the left, perfectly. Funny thing about you guys on the
violent, hate filled left, though. There are no actors. You are the real
So you know some leftists from your home state of Ohio who went out
marching with Tiki Torches and ran down protesters with their cars? Give
me their names or call the FBI and tell them. Why the cover-up?
Huh? Make sense, Marsh.
Well, we know about the extreme rightwinger from Ohio who ran over that
protestor and killed her. You have lots of them in Ohio.
I fondly remember my late father railing against that "Commie" senator
from Ohio, I think his name was Metzenbaum? I did not follow the guy
closely enough to determine what his politics were....
Yes, geography. My relatives were from northern Kentucky and soutern Ohio.
Same problem exists in other state like California where a few 100 miles
makes all the difference.
Post by donald willis
dcw
Make that 60 miles. Like I said, semi-facetitiously, the Bay Area is a
hotbed of socialism; in Sacramento, in the '80s, I happened to make a
little joke about Reagan to someone in a library (maybe a librarian), and
he just couldn't make it compute. We were from different worlds--with the
same state capitol....

dcw
Steve Barber
2018-02-22 02:12:03 UTC
Permalink
Raw Message
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by Steve Barber
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by Steve Barber
Post by Anthony Marsh
Bob Mueller made an excellent point in the indictments today which many
people here overlook. Some of the collusion was unwitting. As the KGB
used to say - useful idiots.
I have met John McAdams and I have talked to John McAdams in person.
I know he is not a Russian. But he has been enticed by the extreme
rightwing rhetoric of the Trump supporters and did not realize that they
are not his fellow Americans but actually are Russian agents taught to
mimic American hate groups and sow confusion.
Some of the trolls who post here hiding behind ridiculous aliases may
really just be Russian agents whose job is to use social media to sow
discord, distrust, and hatred.
The fools you see shouting "Lock her up" are not real Americans, they
are actors hired by the Russians to stir up hatred to destroy the US.
The leftists have divided America. The democratic party, according to
Joe Biden, was taken over by the Leftist Movement in 1972.
Don't you dare say that people who say "Lock her(Hillary) up" are not
American, Marsh. You President Trump haters are going around screaming at
the sky, and shouting "Lock him up", among other things. The word
False, I never said "lock him up." They are only talking about the
criminals already charged and those who pleaded guilty already. I'm sure
they will only get short sentences as long as they cooperate.
Who is "they"?
Carter Page, Steve Bannon, Paul Manafort, George Papadopoulos and
Michael Flynn, Felix Sater and Rick Gates.
Post by Steve Barber
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by Steve Barber
"extreme" describes the left, perfectly. Funny thing about you guys on the
violent, hate filled left, though. There are no actors. You are the real
So you know some leftists from your home state of Ohio who went out
marching with Tiki Torches and ran down protesters with their cars? Give
me their names or call the FBI and tell them. Why the cover-up?
Huh? Make sense, Marsh.
Well, we know about the extreme rightwinger from Ohio who ran over that
protestor and killed her. You have lots of them in Ohio. Remember, I still
have relatives in Ohio and I went to college there. So I know how racist a
state it it.
Citation please.
Post by Anthony Marsh
Do YOU know any leftists from Ohio that went marching around then ran over
a protestor and killed he? Here is your chance to use false equivalency
and say the Leftists are as bad as the Rightwingers.
Post by Steve Barber
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by Steve Barber
thing and aren't the least bit subtle about it. It's the left who have
I am not an actor. I played King Kasper in a musical play, but that was
more as a singer than an actor.
Where did I say you are an actor--or anyone else for that matter! You
need to read that again.
Read it again. Some idiot denied that the Russians hired actors. Maybe
the same idiot who denied that Trump hired actors to appear as a crowd
and his event to announce his candidacy.
Citation please
Post by Anthony Marsh
His campaign would later admit paying $12,000, but given the "modest"
amount, the FEC is exercising discretion and dismissing a complaint he
violated reporting rules.
Citation please
Post by Anthony Marsh
As Donald Trump gets sworn in as the 45th president of the United States,
the Federal Election Commission has closed the chapter on an investigation
on how his presidential campaign started.
Citation please
Post by Anthony Marsh
On June 16, 2015, Trump announced he was running for the highest office.
As first detailed in The Hollywood Reporter, the campaign hired actors to
cheer him on. That drew public attention, although it was later
overshadowed by his harsh pronouncement of Mexicans as "rapists." At the
time, Trump's then campaign manager Corey Lewandowski denied paying anyone
to attend the event and said that he had never heard of Extra Mile or
Gotham Government Relations, the two companies that THR reported were
involved in putting out a casting call for people to attend the event.
A few months later, with no disclosures related to this, the American
Democracy Legal Fund filed a complaint, alleging that Trump's campaign
violated the reporting provisions of the Federal Election Campaign Act of
1971.
Donald J. Trump for President, Inc., then admitted paying Gotham $12,000
on Oct. 8, 2015. Gotham reported to the FCC it hired Extra Mile as a
subcontractor to provide support at Trump's announcement. Still, this
doesn't settle the issue because of the allegation that Trump may have
accepted prohibited or excessive contributions from the two companies
involved with hiring the actors.
According to a FEC general counsel's report in March 2016, made public
Thursday, it was "clear" that Trump's campaign "did not pay Gotham for its
services for almost four months after the event, and did not report the
transaction for more than seven months after the event. Thus, Gotham's
apparent extension of credit to the Committee for the services rendered at
the June candidacy announcement may constitute an excessive or prohibited
contribution, and the Committee failed to report the amount it owed Gotham
as a debt."
"However," the report continued, "because of the seemingly modest amount
at issue, we recommend that the Commission exercise its prosecutorial
discretion and dismiss the allegation ..."
That's just what the FEC has done, quietly announcing its decision to
close the file on the complaint on the eve of Trump's inauguration.
Citation for all please
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by Steve Barber
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by Steve Barber
divided America, and it's the left are the violent ones and it's the left
So, you also like to play Trump's game of false equivalency? Which violent
ones on the left? You aren't old enough to remember the Weather
Underground. Again, if you know any violent leftists it is your duty as a
citizen to call the FBI and give them the names. Or are you covering up
for them?
Why would I be "covering up" for leftists, Marsh? If I had the
opportunity to turn in leftists I wouldn't waste a second in doing so!
We all know that you are a leftist here, you don't have to tell us that.
It's written all over your constant postings and in everything you say.
Well, did you need a college education to figure that out?
Proud of being a leftist. Go figure. Why don't you move to Russia?
They'd welcome you with open arms.
Post by Anthony Marsh
Again, I said, if YOU want to play the false equivalency game, pick up
the phone and turn in some of these leftwing wing terrorists that you
think are as dangerous as the neo-Nazis.
I'm not playing any game.
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by Steve Barber
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by Steve Barber
who overtook the Democratic party. "Fools"? Look into the mirror, Marsh.
FYI, the left was always dominant in the Democratic Party. That is nothing
new. Bernie tried to push it more to the left and was rejected. I am a
Bernie supporter, but the Democratic Party was not yet prepared to go that
far to the left.
Take it up with Biden.
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by Steve Barber
Take that up with Biden. He is the person who said the leftists took
over the Democratic party in 1972.
So what? Was it exactly 1972? Was it in reaction to Nixon.
Again, I reject the lie that JFK was not a leftist.
You attack JFK BECAUSE he was a leftist.
again, ask Biden. He said it!
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by Steve Barber
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by Steve Barber
That which you see defines the word.
Hey, man, that's like almost philosophical. Luckily you don't know what
it means.
I know a heck of a lot more than you think, Marsh. You've been warned.
Oh, so now you want to do Cyber Threats and McAdams allows you to make
them here?
"Threats"? LOL!!! Am I that much of a "threat" to you, Marsh by just
saying the words " I know a lot more than you think, Marsh. You've been
warned"? What, exactly is "threatening" about it?
Anthony Marsh
2018-02-24 01:04:30 UTC
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Raw Message
Post by Steve Barber
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by Steve Barber
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by Steve Barber
Post by Anthony Marsh
Bob Mueller made an excellent point in the indictments today which many
people here overlook. Some of the collusion was unwitting. As the KGB
used to say - useful idiots.
I have met John McAdams and I have talked to John McAdams in person.
I know he is not a Russian. But he has been enticed by the extreme
rightwing rhetoric of the Trump supporters and did not realize that they
are not his fellow Americans but actually are Russian agents taught to
mimic American hate groups and sow confusion.
Some of the trolls who post here hiding behind ridiculous aliases may
really just be Russian agents whose job is to use social media to sow
discord, distrust, and hatred.
The fools you see shouting "Lock her up" are not real Americans, they
are actors hired by the Russians to stir up hatred to destroy the US.
The leftists have divided America. The democratic party, according to
Joe Biden, was taken over by the Leftist Movement in 1972.
Don't you dare say that people who say "Lock her(Hillary) up" are not
American, Marsh. You President Trump haters are going around screaming at
the sky, and shouting "Lock him up", among other things. The word
False, I never said "lock him up." They are only talking about the
criminals already charged and those who pleaded guilty already. I'm sure
they will only get short sentences as long as they cooperate.
Who is "they"?
Carter Page, Steve Bannon, Paul Manafort, George Papadopoulos and
Michael Flynn, Felix Sater and Rick Gates.
Post by Steve Barber
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by Steve Barber
"extreme" describes the left, perfectly. Funny thing about you guys on the
violent, hate filled left, though. There are no actors. You are the real
So you know some leftists from your home state of Ohio who went out
marching with Tiki Torches and ran down protesters with their cars? Give
me their names or call the FBI and tell them. Why the cover-up?
Huh? Make sense, Marsh.
Well, we know about the extreme rightwinger from Ohio who ran over that
protestor and killed her. You have lots of them in Ohio. Remember, I still
have relatives in Ohio and I went to college there. So I know how racist a
state it it.
Citation please.
Citation? Don't you ever watch TV or listen to the news?


Man charged with murder after driving into anti-far-right protesters in
Charlottesville

James Fields, from Ohio, arrested following attack at ???Unite the Right???
gathering, and two police officers die in helicopter crash

Jason Wilson in Charlottesville, Virginia, Edward Helmore and Jon Swaine

Sun 13 Aug 2017 09.45 EDT
First published on Sat 12 Aug 2017 11.48 EDT

This article is 6 months old
One dead after car rams into anti-fascist protesters in Charlottesville

A man has been arrested and charged with murder after a car rammed into
a group of people peacefully protesting against a white supremacist
rally in Charlottesville, Virginia, killing one person and injuring 19.

Police said a 32-year-old woman had died and that they were attempting
to notify her family before releasing more details.

Col Martin Kumer, the superintendent of Albemarle-Charlottesville
regional jail, told the Guardian that 20-year-old James Fields, of Ohio,
had been arrested following the attack on Saturday.
James Fields was charged with second-degree murder.
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???He has been charged with second degree murder, three counts of
malicious wounding and failing to stop at an accident that resulted in a
death,??? Kumer said in an email.

Donald Trump condemned the ???violence on many sides???, but faced criticism
for failing to directly denounce the far-right demonstrators.

In a separate incident, two police officers died when their helicopter,
which was monitoring the far-right rally, crashed outside Charlottesville.

State police said in a statement the helicopter was ???assisting public
safety resources with the ongoing situation??? when it crashed in a wooded
area. The pilot, Lieutenant H Jay Cullen, 48, of Midlothian, Virginia,
and Trooper-pilot Berke Bates of Quinton, Virginia, died at the scene.

The deaths came at the end of a day marked by violent clashes between
far-right nationalists and people who had come to protest against their
occupation of a downtown park containing a statue of the Confederate
general Robert E Lee.

Witnesses said those hit by the car were peacefully protesting against
the white supremacist rally and footage showed the vehicle crashing into
another car, throwing people over the top of it.
Virginia governor says 'go home' to white supremacists and nazis ??? video
Charlottesville: far-right crowd with torches encircles counter-protest
group
Read more

The photographer Pat Jarrett, who witnessed the incident, said: ???A gray
Dodge Charger plowed into a sedan and then into a minivan. Bodies flew.
People were terrified and screaming. Those closest to it said it was
definitely a violent attack. The driver, who people later described as a
skinny white guy with a straggly beard, reversed out of there and drove
off, the front end of his car all smashed up.???

Charlottesville mayor Mike Signer tweeted: ???I am heartbroken that a life
has been lost here. I urge all people of good will ??? go home.???

Speaking at a press conference on Saturday evening, the governor of
Virginia, Terry McAuliffe, who had earlier declared a state of
emergency, told the white supremacists: ???Go home ??? Shame on you. You
pretend you are patriots, but you are anything but a patriot.???

The mother of Fields told the Associated Press on Saturday night that
she knew her son was attending a rally in Virginia but didn???t know it
was a white supremacist rally.
Map

???I thought it had something to do with Trump. Trump???s not a white
supremacist,??? Samantha Bloom said, before becoming visibly upset as she
learned of the injuries and deaths at the rally ???He had an
African-American friend ???,??? she said before her voice trailed off.

Responding to the events in Charlottesville from Bedminster, New Jersey,
Trump: ???We condemn in the strongest possible terms this egregious
display of hatred, bigotry and violence on many sides, on many sides.???

But the Republican senator Marco Rubio tweeted that it was important for
Trump to describe the events as a ???terror attack by white supremacists???.

The FBI said it was opening a civil rights investigation into the
accident along with the justice department???s civil rights division and
the district attorney???s office.

The US attorney general, Jeff Sessions, said: ???The violence and deaths
in Charlottesville strike at the heart of American law and justice. When
such actions arise from racial bigotry and hatred, they betray our core
values and cannot be tolerated.

NBC News

Why do you always play dumb? We know you're not that dumb. WHat's your
game?
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Do YOU know any leftists from Ohio that went marching around then ran over
a protestor and killed he? Here is your chance to use false equivalency
and say the Leftists are as bad as the Rightwingers.
<crickets>

I answer your questions, but you won't answer mine.
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thing and aren't the least bit subtle about it. It's the left who have
I am not an actor. I played King Kasper in a musical play, but that was
more as a singer than an actor.
Where did I say you are an actor--or anyone else for that matter! You
need to read that again.
Read it again. Some idiot denied that the Russians hired actors. Maybe
the same idiot who denied that Trump hired actors to appear as a crowd
and his event to announce his candidacy.
Citation please
Oh, so you can't admit ANYTHING about Trump.

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/thr-esq/donald-trump-escapes-fec-punishment-paid-actors-at-presidential-announcement-966428
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His campaign would later admit paying $12,000, but given the "modest"
amount, the FEC is exercising discretion and dismissing a complaint he
violated reporting rules.
Citation please
I did already.
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Post by Anthony Marsh
As Donald Trump gets sworn in as the 45th president of the United States,
the Federal Election Commission has closed the chapter on an investigation
on how his presidential campaign started.
Citation please
IBID
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Post by Anthony Marsh
On June 16, 2015, Trump announced he was running for the highest office.
As first detailed in The Hollywood Reporter, the campaign hired actors to
cheer him on. That drew public attention, although it was later
overshadowed by his harsh pronouncement of Mexicans as "rapists." At the
time, Trump's then campaign manager Corey Lewandowski denied paying anyone
to attend the event and said that he had never heard of Extra Mile or
Gotham Government Relations, the two companies that THR reported were
involved in putting out a casting call for people to attend the event.
A few months later, with no disclosures related to this, the American
Democracy Legal Fund filed a complaint, alleging that Trump's campaign
violated the reporting provisions of the Federal Election Campaign Act of
1971.
Donald J. Trump for President, Inc., then admitted paying Gotham $12,000
on Oct. 8, 2015. Gotham reported to the FCC it hired Extra Mile as a
subcontractor to provide support at Trump's announcement. Still, this
doesn't settle the issue because of the allegation that Trump may have
accepted prohibited or excessive contributions from the two companies
involved with hiring the actors.
According to a FEC general counsel's report in March 2016, made public
Thursday, it was "clear" that Trump's campaign "did not pay Gotham for its
services for almost four months after the event, and did not report the
transaction for more than seven months after the event. Thus, Gotham's
apparent extension of credit to the Committee for the services rendered at
the June candidacy announcement may constitute an excessive or prohibited
contribution, and the Committee failed to report the amount it owed Gotham
as a debt."
"However," the report continued, "because of the seemingly modest amount
at issue, we recommend that the Commission exercise its prosecutorial
discretion and dismiss the allegation ..."
That's just what the FEC has done, quietly announcing its decision to
close the file on the complaint on the eve of Trump's inauguration.
Citation for all please
Learn how to click on links and use Google.
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divided America, and it's the left are the violent ones and it's the left
So, you also like to play Trump's game of false equivalency? Which violent
ones on the left? You aren't old enough to remember the Weather
Underground. Again, if you know any violent leftists it is your duty as a
citizen to call the FBI and give them the names. Or are you covering up
for them?
Why would I be "covering up" for leftists, Marsh? If I had the
opportunity to turn in leftists I wouldn't waste a second in doing so!
We all know that you are a leftist here, you don't have to tell us that.
It's written all over your constant postings and in everything you say.
Well, did you need a college education to figure that out?
Proud of being a leftist. Go figure. Why don't you move to Russia?
They'd welcome you with open arms.
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Again, I said, if YOU want to play the false equivalency game, pick up
the phone and turn in some of these leftwing wing terrorists that you
think are as dangerous as the neo-Nazis.
I'm not playing any game.
Yes, you are. Playing Trump's game of false equivalency.
"I'm not the Puppet, you're the Puppet."
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who overtook the Democratic party. "Fools"? Look into the mirror, Marsh.
FYI, the left was always dominant in the Democratic Party. That is nothing
new. Bernie tried to push it more to the left and was rejected. I am a
Bernie supporter, but the Democratic Party was not yet prepared to go that
far to the left.
Take it up with Biden.
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Take that up with Biden. He is the person who said the leftists took
over the Democratic party in 1972.
So what? Was it exactly 1972? Was it in reaction to Nixon.
Again, I reject the lie that JFK was not a leftist.
You attack JFK BECAUSE he was a leftist.
again, ask Biden. He said it!
So what
Biden did not say that the Democractic party never had Liberals before.
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That which you see defines the word.
Hey, man, that's like almost philosophical. Luckily you don't know what
it means.
I know a heck of a lot more than you think, Marsh. You've been warned.
Oh, so now you want to do Cyber Threats and McAdams allows you to make
them here?
"Threats"? LOL!!! Am I that much of a "threat" to you, Marsh by just
saying the words " I know a lot more than you think, Marsh. You've been
warned"? What, exactly is "threatening" about it?
"YOUuve been warned" is a Cyber Threat.
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Bob Mueller made an excellent point in the indictments today which many
people here overlook. Some of the collusion was unwitting. As the KGB
used to say - useful idiots.
I have met John McAdams and I have talked to John McAdams in person.
I know he is not a Russian. But he has been enticed by the extreme
rightwing rhetoric of the Trump supporters and did not realize that they
are not his fellow Americans but actually are Russian agents taught to
mimic American hate groups and sow confusion.
Some of the trolls who post here hiding behind ridiculous aliases may
really just be Russian agents whose job is to use social media to sow
discord, distrust, and hatred.
The fools you see shouting "Lock her up" are not real Americans, they
are actors hired by the Russians to stir up hatred to destroy the US.
The leftists have divided America. The democratic party, according to
Joe Biden, was taken over by the Leftist Movement in 1972.
Don't you dare say that people who say "Lock her(Hillary) up" are not
American, Marsh. You President Trump haters are going around screaming at
the sky, and shouting "Lock him up", among other things. The word
False, I never said "lock him up." They are only talking about the
criminals already charged and those who pleaded guilty already. I'm sure
they will only get short sentences as long as they cooperate.
Who is "they"?
Carter Page, Steve Bannon, Paul Manafort, George Papadopoulos and
Michael Flynn, Felix Sater and Rick Gates.
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"extreme" describes the left, perfectly. Funny thing about you guys on the
violent, hate filled left, though. There are no actors. You are the real
So you know some leftists from your home state of Ohio who went out
marching with Tiki Torches and ran down protesters with their cars? Give
me their names or call the FBI and tell them. Why the cover-up?
Huh? Make sense, Marsh.
Well, we know about the extreme rightwinger from Ohio who ran over that
protestor and killed her. You have lots of them in Ohio. Remember, I still
have relatives in Ohio and I went to college there. So I know how racist a
state it it.
Citation please.
Citation? Don't you ever watch TV or listen to the news?
No, I do not watch TV. I rid myself of that garbage in 2011, and have
never been happier than I am without it. Try it sometime.
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Man charged with murder after driving into anti-far-right protesters in
Charlottesville
James Fields, from Ohio, arrested following attack at ???Unite the Right???
gathering, and two police officers die in helicopter crash
Jason Wilson in Charlottesville, Virginia, Edward Helmore and Jon Swaine
Sun 13 Aug 2017 09.45 EDT
First published on Sat 12 Aug 2017 11.48 EDT
This article is 6 months old
One dead after car rams into anti-fascist protesters in Charlottesville
A man has been arrested and charged with murder after a car rammed into
a group of people peacefully protesting against a white supremacist
rally in Charlottesville, Virginia, killing one person and injuring 19.
Police said a 32-year-old woman had died and that they were attempting
to notify her family before releasing more details.
Col Martin Kumer, the superintendent of Albemarle-Charlottesville
regional jail, told the Guardian that 20-year-old James Fields, of Ohio,
had been arrested following the attack on Saturday.
James Fields was charged with second-degree murder.
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???He has been charged with second degree murder, three counts of
malicious wounding and failing to stop at an accident that resulted in a
death,??? Kumer said in an email.
Donald Trump condemned the ???violence on many sides???, but faced criticism
for failing to directly denounce the far-right demonstrators.
In a separate incident, two police officers died when their helicopter,
which was monitoring the far-right rally, crashed outside Charlottesville.
State police said in a statement the helicopter was ???assisting public
safety resources with the ongoing situation??? when it crashed in a wooded
area. The pilot, Lieutenant H Jay Cullen, 48, of Midlothian, Virginia,
and Trooper-pilot Berke Bates of Quinton, Virginia, died at the scene.
The deaths came at the end of a day marked by violent clashes between
far-right nationalists and people who had come to protest against their
occupation of a downtown park containing a statue of the Confederate
general Robert E Lee.
Witnesses said those hit by the car were peacefully protesting against
the white supremacist rally and footage showed the vehicle crashing into
another car, throwing people over the top of it.
Virginia governor says 'go home' to white supremacists and nazis ??? video
Charlottesville: far-right crowd with torches encircles counter-protest
group
Read more
The photographer Pat Jarrett, who witnessed the incident, said: ???A gray
Dodge Charger plowed into a sedan and then into a minivan. Bodies flew.
People were terrified and screaming. Those closest to it said it was
definitely a violent attack. The driver, who people later described as a
skinny white guy with a straggly beard, reversed out of there and drove
off, the front end of his car all smashed up.???
Charlottesville mayor Mike Signer tweeted: ???I am heartbroken that a life
has been lost here. I urge all people of good will ??? go home.???
Speaking at a press conference on Saturday evening, the governor of
Virginia, Terry McAuliffe, who had earlier declared a state of
emergency, told the white supremacists: ???Go home ??? Shame on you. You
pretend you are patriots, but you are anything but a patriot.???
The mother of Fields told the Associated Press on Saturday night that
she knew her son was attending a rally in Virginia but didn???t know it
was a white supremacist rally.
Map
???I thought it had something to do with Trump. Trump???s not a white
supremacist,??? Samantha Bloom said, before becoming visibly upset as she
learned of the injuries and deaths at the rally ???He had an
African-American friend ???,??? she said before her voice trailed off.
Responding to the events in Charlottesville from Bedminster, New Jersey,
Trump: ???We condemn in the strongest possible terms this egregious
display of hatred, bigotry and violence on many sides, on many sides.???
But the Republican senator Marco Rubio tweeted that it was important for
Trump to describe the events as a ???terror attack by white supremacists???.
The FBI said it was opening a civil rights investigation into the
accident along with the justice department???s civil rights division and
the district attorney???s office.
The US attorney general, Jeff Sessions, said: ???The violence and deaths
in Charlottesville strike at the heart of American law and justice. When
such actions arise from racial bigotry and hatred, they betray our core
values and cannot be tolerated.
NBC News
Why do you always play dumb? We know you're not that dumb. WHat's your
game?
Game playing is your forte Marsh. I don't play games.
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Do YOU know any leftists from Ohio that went marching around then ran over
a protestor and killed he? Here is your chance to use false equivalency
and say the Leftists are as bad as the Rightwingers.
<crickets>
I answer your questions, but you won't answer mine.
Try this on for size. Although it is very tragic that a woman lost her
life by the hands of a madman, do not paint all Republican's or
conservatives with the same brush!

How many LEO have been killed by extreme leftists who hate America? The
number is astronomical. How many hate groups by the right are out their
called "M-13, ANTIFA, Black Lives Matter, and so on? Who is it that were
protesting and blocking traffic on Interstate highways, keeping ambulances
from reaching the hospital, and the child died in the ambulance because
the protestors wouldn't let them through? There's more crap being dished
out with violent acts than ever before, so don't preach to me about
violence.

You say you watch the news, you cite NBC, one of the most left wing
extremist main stream media outlets in the country, don't preach to me
about violence, Marsh. Your party is filled with nothing but violent, hate
filled losers who hate everything this country stands for.

Does that answer your question? If not, too bad!
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thing and aren't the least bit subtle about it. It's the left who have
I am not an actor. I played King Kasper in a musical play, but that was
more as a singer than an actor.
Where did I say you are an actor--or anyone else for that matter! You
need to read that again.
Read it again. Some idiot denied that the Russians hired actors. Maybe
the same idiot who denied that Trump hired actors to appear as a crowd
and his event to announce his candidacy.
Citation please
Oh, so you can't admit ANYTHING about Trump.
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/thr-esq/donald-trump-escapes-fec-punishment-paid-actors-at-presidential-announcement-966428
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Post by Anthony Marsh
His campaign would later admit paying $12,000, but given the "modest"
amount, the FEC is exercising discretion and dismissing a complaint he
violated reporting rules.
Citation please
I did already.
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Post by Anthony Marsh
As Donald Trump gets sworn in as the 45th president of the United States,
the Federal Election Commission has closed the chapter on an investigation
on how his presidential campaign started.
Citation please
IBID
Post by Steve Barber
Post by Anthony Marsh
On June 16, 2015, Trump announced he was running for the highest office.
As first detailed in The Hollywood Reporter, the campaign hired actors to
cheer him on. That drew public attention, although it was later
overshadowed by his harsh pronouncement of Mexicans as "rapists." At the
time, Trump's then campaign manager Corey Lewandowski denied paying anyone
to attend the event and said that he had never heard of Extra Mile or
Gotham Government Relations, the two companies that THR reported were
involved in putting out a casting call for people to attend the event.
A few months later, with no disclosures related to this, the American
Democracy Legal Fund filed a complaint, alleging that Trump's campaign
violated the reporting provisions of the Federal Election Campaign Act of
1971.
Donald J. Trump for President, Inc., then admitted paying Gotham $12,000
on Oct. 8, 2015. Gotham reported to the FCC it hired Extra Mile as a
subcontractor to provide support at Trump's announcement. Still, this
doesn't settle the issue because of the allegation that Trump may have
accepted prohibited or excessive contributions from the two companies
involved with hiring the actors.
According to a FEC general counsel's report in March 2016, made public
Thursday, it was "clear" that Trump's campaign "did not pay Gotham for its
services for almost four months after the event, and did not report the
transaction for more than seven months after the event. Thus, Gotham's
apparent extension of credit to the Committee for the services rendered at
the June candidacy announcement may constitute an excessive or prohibited
contribution, and the Committee failed to report the amount it owed Gotham
as a debt."
"However," the report continued, "because of the seemingly modest amount
at issue, we recommend that the Commission exercise its prosecutorial
discretion and dismiss the allegation ..."
That's just what the FEC has done, quietly announcing its decision to
close the file on the complaint on the eve of Trump's inauguration.
Citation for all please
Learn how to click on links and use Google.
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divided America, and it's the left are the violent ones and it's the left
So, you also like to play Trump's game of false equivalency? Which violent
ones on the left? You aren't old enough to remember the Weather
Underground. Again, if you know any violent leftists it is your duty as a
citizen to call the FBI and give them the names. Or are you covering up
for them?
Why would I be "covering up" for leftists, Marsh? If I had the
opportunity to turn in leftists I wouldn't waste a second in doing so!
We all know that you are a leftist here, you don't have to tell us that.
It's written all over your constant postings and in everything you say.
Well, did you need a college education to figure that out?
Proud of being a leftist. Go figure. Why don't you move to Russia?
They'd welcome you with open arms.
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Again, I said, if YOU want to play the false equivalency game, pick up
the phone and turn in some of these leftwing wing terrorists that you
think are as dangerous as the neo-Nazis.
I'm not playing any game.
Yes, you are. Playing Trump's game of false equivalency.
"I'm not the Puppet, you're the Puppet."
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who overtook the Democratic party. "Fools"? Look into the mirror, Marsh.
FYI, the left was always dominant in the Democratic Party. That is nothing
new. Bernie tried to push it more to the left and was rejected. I am a
Bernie supporter, but the Democratic Party was not yet prepared to go that
far to the left.
Take it up with Biden.
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Take that up with Biden. He is the person who said the leftists took
over the Democratic party in 1972.
So what? Was it exactly 1972? Was it in reaction to Nixon.
Again, I reject the lie that JFK was not a leftist.
You attack JFK BECAUSE he was a leftist.
again, ask Biden. He said it!
So what
Biden did not say that the Democractic party never had Liberals before.
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That which you see defines the word.
Hey, man, that's like almost philosophical. Luckily you don't know what
it means.
I know a heck of a lot more than you think, Marsh. You've been warned.
Oh, so now you want to do Cyber Threats and McAdams allows you to make
them here?
"Threats"? LOL!!! Am I that much of a "threat" to you, Marsh by just
saying the words " I know a lot more than you think, Marsh. You've been
warned"? What, exactly is "threatening" about it?
"YOUuve been warned" is a Cyber Threat.
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Bob Mueller made an excellent point in the indictments today which many
people here overlook. Some of the collusion was unwitting. As the KGB
used to say - useful idiots.
I have met John McAdams and I have talked to John McAdams in person.
I know he is not a Russian. But he has been enticed by the extreme
rightwing rhetoric of the Trump supporters and did not realize that they
are not his fellow Americans but actually are Russian agents taught to
mimic American hate groups and sow confusion.
Some of the trolls who post here hiding behind ridiculous aliases may
really just be Russian agents whose job is to use social media to sow
discord, distrust, and hatred.
The fools you see shouting "Lock her up" are not real Americans, they
are actors hired by the Russians to stir up hatred to destroy the US.
The leftists have divided America. The democratic party, according to
Joe Biden, was taken over by the Leftist Movement in 1972.
Don't you dare say that people who say "Lock her(Hillary) up" are not
American, Marsh. You President Trump haters are going around screaming at
the sky, and shouting "Lock him up", among other things. The word
False, I never said "lock him up." They are only talking about the
criminals already charged and those who pleaded guilty already. I'm sure
they will only get short sentences as long as they cooperate.
Who is "they"?
Carter Page, Steve Bannon, Paul Manafort, George Papadopoulos and
Michael Flynn, Felix Sater and Rick Gates.
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"extreme" describes the left, perfectly. Funny thing about you guys on the
violent, hate filled left, though. There are no actors. You are the real
So you know some leftists from your home state of Ohio who went out
marching with Tiki Torches and ran down protesters with their cars? Give
me their names or call the FBI and tell them. Why the cover-up?
Huh? Make sense, Marsh.
Well, we know about the extreme rightwinger from Ohio who ran over that
protestor and killed her. You have lots of them in Ohio. Remember, I still
have relatives in Ohio and I went to college there. So I know how racist a
state it it.
Citation please.
Citation? Don't you ever watch TV or listen to the news?
No, I do not watch TV. I rid myself of that garbage in 2011, and have
never been happier than I am without it. Try it sometime.
So you know nothing about current events?
Can you even read the newspaper? How do know what Trump wants you to do
if you don't listen to him?
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Post by Anthony Marsh
Man charged with murder after driving into anti-far-right protesters in
Charlottesville
James Fields, from Ohio, arrested following attack at ???Unite the Right???
gathering, and two police officers die in helicopter crash
Jason Wilson in Charlottesville, Virginia, Edward Helmore and Jon Swaine
Sun 13 Aug 2017 09.45 EDT
First published on Sat 12 Aug 2017 11.48 EDT
This article is 6 months old
One dead after car rams into anti-fascist protesters in Charlottesville
A man has been arrested and charged with murder after a car rammed into
a group of people peacefully protesting against a white supremacist
rally in Charlottesville, Virginia, killing one person and injuring 19.
Police said a 32-year-old woman had died and that they were attempting
to notify her family before releasing more details.
Col Martin Kumer, the superintendent of Albemarle-Charlottesville
regional jail, told the Guardian that 20-year-old James Fields, of Ohio,
had been arrested following the attack on Saturday.
James Fields was charged with second-degree murder.
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???He has been charged with second degree murder, three counts of
malicious wounding and failing to stop at an accident that resulted in a
death,??? Kumer said in an email.
Donald Trump condemned the ???violence on many sides???, but faced criticism
for failing to directly denounce the far-right demonstrators.
In a separate incident, two police officers died when their helicopter,
which was monitoring the far-right rally, crashed outside Charlottesville.
State police said in a statement the helicopter was ???assisting public
safety resources with the ongoing situation??? when it crashed in a wooded
area. The pilot, Lieutenant H Jay Cullen, 48, of Midlothian, Virginia,
and Trooper-pilot Berke Bates of Quinton, Virginia, died at the scene.
The deaths came at the end of a day marked by violent clashes between
far-right nationalists and people who had come to protest against their
occupation of a downtown park containing a statue of the Confederate
general Robert E Lee.
Witnesses said those hit by the car were peacefully protesting against
the white supremacist rally and footage showed the vehicle crashing into
another car, throwing people over the top of it.
Virginia governor says 'go home' to white supremacists and nazis ??? video
Charlottesville: far-right crowd with torches encircles counter-protest
group
Read more
The photographer Pat Jarrett, who witnessed the incident, said: ???A gray
Dodge Charger plowed into a sedan and then into a minivan. Bodies flew.
People were terrified and screaming. Those closest to it said it was
definitely a violent attack. The driver, who people later described as a
skinny white guy with a straggly beard, reversed out of there and drove
off, the front end of his car all smashed up.???
Charlottesville mayor Mike Signer tweeted: ???I am heartbroken that a life
has been lost here. I urge all people of good will ??? go home.???
Speaking at a press conference on Saturday evening, the governor of
Virginia, Terry McAuliffe, who had earlier declared a state of
emergency, told the white supremacists: ???Go home ??? Shame on you. You
pretend you are patriots, but you are anything but a patriot.???
The mother of Fields told the Associated Press on Saturday night that
she knew her son was attending a rally in Virginia but didn???t know it
was a white supremacist rally.
Map
???I thought it had something to do with Trump. Trump???s not a white
supremacist,??? Samantha Bloom said, before becoming visibly upset as she
learned of the injuries and deaths at the rally ???He had an
African-American friend ???,??? she said before her voice trailed off.
Responding to the events in Charlottesville from Bedminster, New Jersey,
Trump: ???We condemn in the strongest possible terms this egregious
display of hatred, bigotry and violence on many sides, on many sides.???
But the Republican senator Marco Rubio tweeted that it was important for
Trump to describe the events as a ???terror attack by white supremacists???.
The FBI said it was opening a civil rights investigation into the
accident along with the justice department???s civil rights division and
the district attorney???s office.
The US attorney general, Jeff Sessions, said: ???The violence and deaths
in Charlottesville strike at the heart of American law and justice. When
such actions arise from racial bigotry and hatred, they betray our core
values and cannot be tolerated.
NBC News
Why do you always play dumb? We know you're not that dumb. WHat's your
game?
Game playing is your forte Marsh. I don't play games.
That's what you do in this newsgroup.
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Do YOU know any leftists from Ohio that went marching around then ran over
a protestor and killed he? Here is your chance to use false equivalency
and say the Leftists are as bad as the Rightwingers.
<crickets>
I answer your questions, but you won't answer mine.
Try this on for size. Although it is very tragic that a woman lost her
life by the hands of a madman, do not paint all Republican's or
conservatives with the same brush!
That is my point exactly. So don't use false equivalency because you
would be admitting what you charge others of doing.
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How many LEO have been killed by extreme leftists who hate America? The
number is astronomical. How many hate groups by the right are out their
No, only a handful.
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called "M-13, ANTIFA, Black Lives Matter, and so on? Who is it that were
Document how many people you think they killed. Do you even know about
the political assassinations of white police officers by blacks?
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protesting and blocking traffic on Interstate highways, keeping ambulances
Wow, protesting in the streets.
And you think that is the same thing as KKK lynchings?
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from reaching the hospital, and the child died in the ambulance because
the protestors wouldn't let them through? There's more crap being dished
Or by a certain New Jersey Republican playing politics with closing
lanes on the most wildely travelled bridge?
I thought you were going to tell me about assassinations and bombings.
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out with violent acts than ever before, so don't preach to me about
violence.
I will always preach non-violence. Jesus told me that is my Christian
obligation.
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You say you watch the news, you cite NBC, one of the most left wing
Very rarely NBC. I usually watch my local channel which carries ABC
until after dinner and them switch to MSNBC.
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extremist main stream media outlets in the country, don't preach to me
Yes, MSNBC prides itself on being the most leftwing that people can find
on TV and most people do not even know about Democracy Now which tries
to be the most leftist source.
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about violence, Marsh. Your party is filled with nothing but violent, hate
filled losers who hate everything this country stands for.
The Democractic Party is not always MY party. Sometimes I vote for other
parties.
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Does that answer your question? If not, too bad!
It's evasive. List for me all these violent people you are talking about.
You are playing the Pee-Wee Herman game again.
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thing and aren't the least bit subtle about it. It's the left who have
I am not an actor. I played King Kasper in a musical play, but that was
more as a singer than an actor.
Where did I say you are an actor--or anyone else for that matter! You
need to read that again.
Read it again. Some idiot denied that the Russians hired actors. Maybe
the same idiot who denied that Trump hired actors to appear as a crowd
and his event to announce his candidacy.
Citation please
Oh, so you can't admit ANYTHING about Trump.
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/thr-esq/donald-trump-escapes-fec-punishment-paid-actors-at-presidential-announcement-966428
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His campaign would later admit paying $12,000, but given the "modest"
amount, the FEC is exercising discretion and dismissing a complaint he
violated reporting rules.
Citation please
I did already.
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As Donald Trump gets sworn in as the 45th president of the United States,
the Federal Election Commission has closed the chapter on an investigation
on how his presidential campaign started.
Citation please
IBID
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On June 16, 2015, Trump announced he was running for the highest office.
As first detailed in The Hollywood Reporter, the campaign hired actors to
cheer him on. That drew public attention, although it was later
overshadowed by his harsh pronouncement of Mexicans as "rapists." At the
time, Trump's then campaign manager Corey Lewandowski denied paying anyone
to attend the event and said that he had never heard of Extra Mile or
Gotham Government Relations, the two companies that THR reported were
involved in putting out a casting call for people to attend the event.
A few months later, with no disclosures related to this, the American
Democracy Legal Fund filed a complaint, alleging that Trump's campaign
violated the reporting provisions of the Federal Election Campaign Act of
1971.
Donald J. Trump for President, Inc., then admitted paying Gotham $12,000
on Oct. 8, 2015. Gotham reported to the FCC it hired Extra Mile as a
subcontractor to provide support at Trump's announcement. Still, this
doesn't settle the issue because of the allegation that Trump may have
accepted prohibited or excessive contributions from the two companies
involved with hiring the actors.
According to a FEC general counsel's report in March 2016, made public
Thursday, it was "clear" that Trump's campaign "did not pay Gotham for its
services for almost four months after the event, and did not report the
transaction for more than seven months after the event. Thus, Gotham's
apparent extension of credit to the Committee for the services rendered at
the June candidacy announcement may constitute an excessive or prohibited
contribution, and the Committee failed to report the amount it owed Gotham
as a debt."
"However," the report continued, "because of the seemingly modest amount
at issue, we recommend that the Commission exercise its prosecutorial
discretion and dismiss the allegation ..."
That's just what the FEC has done, quietly announcing its decision to
close the file on the complaint on the eve of Trump's inauguration.
Citation for all please
Learn how to click on links and use Google.
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divided America, and it's the left are the violent ones and it's the left
So, you also like to play Trump's game of false equivalency? Which violent
ones on the left? You aren't old enough to remember the Weather
Underground. Again, if you know any violent leftists it is your duty as a
citizen to call the FBI and give them the names. Or are you covering up
for them?
Why would I be "covering up" for leftists, Marsh? If I had the
opportunity to turn in leftists I wouldn't waste a second in doing so!
We all know that you are a leftist here, you don't have to tell us that.
It's written all over your constant postings and in everything you say.
Well, did you need a college education to figure that out?
Proud of being a leftist. Go figure. Why don't you move to Russia?
They'd welcome you with open arms.
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Again, I said, if YOU want to play the false equivalency game, pick up
the phone and turn in some of these leftwing wing terrorists that you
think are as dangerous as the neo-Nazis.
I'm not playing any game.
Yes, you are. Playing Trump's game of false equivalency.
"I'm not the Puppet, you're the Puppet."
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who overtook the Democratic party. "Fools"? Look into the mirror, Marsh.
FYI, the left was always dominant in the Democratic Party. That is nothing
new. Bernie tried to push it more to the left and was rejected. I am a
Bernie supporter, but the Democratic Party was not yet prepared to go that
far to the left.
Take it up with Biden.
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Take that up with Biden. He is the person who said the leftists took
over the Democratic party in 1972.
So what? Was it exactly 1972? Was it in reaction to Nixon.
Again, I reject the lie that JFK was not a leftist.
You attack JFK BECAUSE he was a leftist.
again, ask Biden. He said it!
So what
Biden did not say that the Democractic party never had Liberals before.
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That which you see defines the word.
Hey, man, that's like almost philosophical. Luckily you don't know what
it means.
I know a heck of a lot more than you think, Marsh. You've been warned.
Oh, so now you want to do Cyber Threats and McAdams allows you to make
them here?
"Threats"? LOL!!! Am I that much of a "threat" to you, Marsh by just
saying the words " I know a lot more than you think, Marsh. You've been
warned"? What, exactly is "threatening" about it?
"YOUuve been warned" is a Cyber Threat.
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Bob Mueller made an excellent point in the indictments today which many
people here overlook. Some of the collusion was unwitting. As the KGB
used to say - useful idiots.
I have met John McAdams and I have talked to John McAdams in person.
I know he is not a Russian. But he has been enticed by the extreme
rightwing rhetoric of the Trump supporters and did not realize that they
are not his fellow Americans but actually are Russian agents taught to
mimic American hate groups and sow confusion.
Some of the trolls who post here hiding behind ridiculous aliases may
really just be Russian agents whose job is to use social media to sow
discord, distrust, and hatred.
The fools you see shouting "Lock her up" are not real Americans, they
are actors hired by the Russians to stir up hatred to destroy the US.
The leftists have divided America. The democratic party, according to
Joe Biden, was taken over by the Leftist Movement in 1972.
Don't you dare say that people who say "Lock her(Hillary) up" are not
American, Marsh. You President Trump haters are going around screaming at
the sky, and shouting "Lock him up", among other things. The word
False, I never said "lock him up." They are only talking about the
criminals already charged and those who pleaded guilty already. I'm sure
they will only get short sentences as long as they cooperate.
Who is "they"?
Carter Page, Steve Bannon, Paul Manafort, George Papadopoulos and
Michael Flynn, Felix Sater and Rick Gates.
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"extreme" describes the left, perfectly. Funny thing about you guys on the
violent, hate filled left, though. There are no actors. You are the real
So you know some leftists from your home state of Ohio who went out
marching with Tiki Torches and ran down protesters with their cars? Give
me their names or call the FBI and tell them. Why the cover-up?
Huh? Make sense, Marsh.
Well, we know about the extreme rightwinger from Ohio who ran over that
protestor and killed her. You have lots of them in Ohio. Remember, I still
have relatives in Ohio and I went to college there. So I know how racist a
state it it.
Citation please.
Citation? Don't you ever watch TV or listen to the news?
Man charged with murder after driving into anti-far-right protesters in
Charlottesville
James Fields, from Ohio, arrested following attack at ???Unite the Right???
gathering, and two police officers die in helicopter crash
Jason Wilson in Charlottesville, Virginia, Edward Helmore and Jon Swaine
Sun 13 Aug 2017 09.45 EDT
First published on Sat 12 Aug 2017 11.48 EDT
This article is 6 months old
One dead after car rams into anti-fascist protesters in Charlottesville
A man has been arrested and charged with murder after a car rammed into
a group of people peacefully protesting against a white supremacist
rally in Charlottesville, Virginia, killing one person and injuring 19.
Police said a 32-year-old woman had died and that they were attempting
to notify her family before releasing more details.
Col Martin Kumer, the superintendent of Albemarle-Charlottesville
regional jail, told the Guardian that 20-year-old James Fields, of Ohio,
had been arrested following the attack on Saturday.
James Fields was charged with second-degree murder.
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???He has been charged with second degree murder, three counts of
malicious wounding and failing to stop at an accident that resulted in a
death,??? Kumer said in an email.
Donald Trump condemned the ???violence on many sides???, but faced criticism
for failing to directly denounce the far-right demonstrators.
In a separate incident, two police officers died when their helicopter,
which was monitoring the far-right rally, crashed outside Charlottesville.
State police said in a statement the helicopter was ???assisting public
safety resources with the ongoing situation??? when it crashed in a wooded
area. The pilot, Lieutenant H Jay Cullen, 48, of Midlothian, Virginia,
and Trooper-pilot Berke Bates of Quinton, Virginia, died at the scene.
The deaths came at the end of a day marked by violent clashes between
far-right nationalists and people who had come to protest against their
occupation of a downtown park containing a statue of the Confederate
general Robert E Lee.
Witnesses said those hit by the car were peacefully protesting against
the white supremacist rally and footage showed the vehicle crashing into
another car, throwing people over the top of it.
Virginia governor says 'go home' to white supremacists and nazis ??? video
Charlottesville: far-right crowd with torches encircles counter-protest
group
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The photographer Pat Jarrett, who witnessed the incident, said: ???A gray
Dodge Charger plowed into a sedan and then into a minivan. Bodies flew.
People were terrified and screaming. Those closest to it said it was
definitely a violent attack. The driver, who people later described as a
skinny white guy with a straggly beard, reversed out of there and drove
off, the front end of his car all smashed up.???
Charlottesville mayor Mike Signer tweeted: ???I am heartbroken that a life
has been lost here. I urge all people of good will ??? go home.???
Speaking at a press conference on Saturday evening, the governor of
Virginia, Terry McAuliffe, who had earlier declared a state of
emergency, told the white supremacists: ???Go home ??? Shame on you. You
pretend you are patriots, but you are anything but a patriot.???
The mother of Fields told the Associated Press on Saturday night that
she knew her son was attending a rally in Virginia but didn???t know it
was a white supremacist rally.
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???I thought it had something to do with Trump. Trump???s not a white
supremacist,??? Samantha Bloom said, before becoming visibly upset as she
learned of the injuries and deaths at the rally ???He had an
African-American friend ???,??? she said before her voice trailed off.
Responding to the events in Charlottesville from Bedminster, New Jersey,
Trump: ???We condemn in the strongest possible terms this egregious
display of hatred, bigotry and violence on many sides, on many sides.???
But the Republican senator Marco Rubio tweeted that it was important for
Trump to describe the events as a ???terror attack by white supremacists???.
The FBI said it was opening a civil rights investigation into the
accident along with the justice department???s civil rights division and
the district attorney???s office.
The US attorney general, Jeff Sessions, said: ???The violence and deaths
in Charlottesville strike at the heart of American law and justice. When
such actions arise from racial bigotry and hatred, they betray our core
values and cannot be tolerated.
NBC News
Why do you always play dumb? We know you're not that dumb. WHat's your
game?
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Do YOU know any leftists from Ohio that went marching around then ran over
a protestor and killed he? Here is your chance to use false equivalency
and say the Leftists are as bad as the Rightwingers.
<crickets>
I answer your questions, but you won't answer mine.
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thing and aren't the least bit subtle about it. It's the left who have
I am not an actor. I played King Kasper in a musical play, but that was
more as a singer than an actor.
Where did I say you are an actor--or anyone else for that matter! You
need to read that again.
Read it again. Some idiot denied that the Russians hired actors. Maybe
the same idiot who denied that Trump hired actors to appear as a crowd
and his event to announce his candidacy.
Citation please
Oh, so you can't admit ANYTHING about Trump.
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/thr-esq/donald-trump-escapes-fec-punishment-paid-actors-at-presidential-announcement-966428
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His campaign would later admit paying $12,000, but given the "modest"
amount, the FEC is exercising discretion and dismissing a complaint he
violated reporting rules.
Citation please
I did already.
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As Donald Trump gets sworn in as the 45th president of the United States,
the Federal Election Commission has closed the chapter on an investigation
on how his presidential campaign started.
Citation please
IBID
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Post by Anthony Marsh
On June 16, 2015, Trump announced he was running for the highest office.
As first detailed in The Hollywood Reporter, the campaign hired actors to
cheer him on. That drew public attention, although it was later
overshadowed by his harsh pronouncement of Mexicans as "rapists." At the
time, Trump's then campaign manager Corey Lewandowski denied paying anyone
to attend the event and said that he had never heard of Extra Mile or
Gotham Government Relations, the two companies that THR reported were
involved in putting out a casting call for people to attend the event.
A few months later, with no disclosures related to this, the American
Democracy Legal Fund filed a complaint, alleging that Trump's campaign
violated the reporting provisions of the Federal Election Campaign Act of
1971.
Donald J. Trump for President, Inc., then admitted paying Gotham $12,000
on Oct. 8, 2015. Gotham reported to the FCC it hired Extra Mile as a
subcontractor to provide support at Trump's announcement. Still, this
doesn't settle the issue because of the allegation that Trump may have
accepted prohibited or excessive contributions from the two companies
involved with hiring the actors.
According to a FEC general counsel's report in March 2016, made public
Thursday, it was "clear" that Trump's campaign "did not pay Gotham for its
services for almost four months after the event, and did not report the
transaction for more than seven months after the event. Thus, Gotham's
apparent extension of credit to the Committee for the services rendered at
the June candidacy announcement may constitute an excessive or prohibited
contribution, and the Committee failed to report the amount it owed Gotham
as a debt."
"However," the report continued, "because of the seemingly modest amount
at issue, we recommend that the Commission exercise its prosecutorial
discretion and dismiss the allegation ..."
That's just what the FEC has done, quietly announcing its decision to
close the file on the complaint on the eve of Trump's inauguration.
Citation for all please
Learn how to click on links and use Google.
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divided America, and it's the left are the violent ones and it's the left
So, you also like to play Trump's game of false equivalency? Which violent
ones on the left? You aren't old enough to remember the Weather
Underground. Again, if you know any violent leftists it is your duty as a
citizen to call the FBI and give them the names. Or are you covering up
for them?
Why would I be "covering up" for leftists, Marsh? If I had the
opportunity to turn in leftists I wouldn't waste a second in doing so!
We all know that you are a leftist here, you don't have to tell us that.
It's written all over your constant postings and in everything you say.
Well, did you need a college education to figure that out?
Proud of being a leftist. Go figure. Why don't you move to Russia?
They'd welcome you with open arms.
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Again, I said, if YOU want to play the false equivalency game, pick up
the phone and turn in some of these leftwing wing terrorists that you
think are as dangerous as the neo-Nazis.
I'm not playing any game.
Yes, you are. Playing Trump's game of false equivalency.
"I'm not the Puppet, you're the Puppet."
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who overtook the Democratic party. "Fools"? Look into the mirror, Marsh.
FYI, the left was always dominant in the Democratic Party. That is nothing
new. Bernie tried to push it more to the left and was rejected. I am a
Bernie supporter, but the Democratic Party was not yet prepared to go that
far to the left.
Take it up with Biden.
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Take that up with Biden. He is the person who said the leftists took
over the Democratic party in 1972.
So what? Was it exactly 1972? Was it in reaction to Nixon.
Again, I reject the lie that JFK was not a leftist.
You attack JFK BECAUSE he was a leftist.
again, ask Biden. He said it!
So what
Biden did not say that the Democractic party never had Liberals before.
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That which you see defines the word.
Hey, man, that's like almost philosophical. Luckily you don't know what
it means.
I know a heck of a lot more than you think, Marsh. You've been warned.
Oh, so now you want to do Cyber Threats and McAdams allows you to make
them here?
"Threats"? LOL!!! Am I that much of a "threat" to you, Marsh by just
saying the words " I know a lot more than you think, Marsh. You've been
warned"? What, exactly is "threatening" about it?
"YOUuve been warned" is a Cyber Threat.
Prove it, Marsh. Show me where it says that the words "You've been
warned" is considered a Cyber threat.

By the way...you claim that trolls are people who only use aliases, in
another thread. Nothing could be further from the truth. Try Googling it
once. You will see that a troll can be anyone, just like you. Here's how
Webster Dictionary defines the word. Note that it says *NOTHING* limiting
a troll only to someone using aliases:


https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/troll

a : to antagonize (others) online by deliberately posting inflammatory, irrelevant, or offensive comments or other disruptive content
… trolls engage in the most outrageous and offensive behaviors possible—all the better to troll you with. —Whitney Phillips
b : to act as a troll (see 3troll 2) on (a forum, site, etc.)
… is also notorious, for trolling message boards on the Internet, posting offensive material he himself has written and then suing anyone who responds in agreement. —Mark Hemingway
c : to harass, criticize, or antagonize (someone) especially by provocatively disparaging or mocking public statements, postings, or acts.


Hmmmmm...I don't see anything about a troll being limited to someone who
only uses aliases. You made that up.
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Bob Mueller made an excellent point in the indictments today which many
people here overlook. Some of the collusion was unwitting. As the KGB
used to say - useful idiots.
I have met John McAdams and I have talked to John McAdams in person.
I know he is not a Russian. But he has been enticed by the extreme
rightwing rhetoric of the Trump supporters and did not realize that they
are not his fellow Americans but actually are Russian agents taught to
mimic American hate groups and sow confusion.
Some of the trolls who post here hiding behind ridiculous aliases may
really just be Russian agents whose job is to use social media to sow
discord, distrust, and hatred.
The fools you see shouting "Lock her up" are not real Americans, they
are actors hired by the Russians to stir up hatred to destroy the US.
The leftists have divided America. The democratic party, according to
Joe Biden, was taken over by the Leftist Movement in 1972.
Don't you dare say that people who say "Lock her(Hillary) up" are not
American, Marsh. You President Trump haters are going around screaming at
the sky, and shouting "Lock him up", among other things. The word
False, I never said "lock him up." They are only talking about the
criminals already charged and those who pleaded guilty already. I'm sure
they will only get short sentences as long as they cooperate.
Who is "they"?
Carter Page, Steve Bannon, Paul Manafort, George Papadopoulos and
Michael Flynn, Felix Sater and Rick Gates.
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"extreme" describes the left, perfectly. Funny thing about you guys on the
violent, hate filled left, though. There are no actors. You are the real
So you know some leftists from your home state of Ohio who went out
marching with Tiki Torches and ran down protesters with their cars? Give
me their names or call the FBI and tell them. Why the cover-up?
Huh? Make sense, Marsh.
Well, we know about the extreme rightwinger from Ohio who ran over that
protestor and killed her. You have lots of them in Ohio. Remember, I still
have relatives in Ohio and I went to college there. So I know how racist a
state it it.
Citation please.
Citation? Don't you ever watch TV or listen to the news?
Man charged with murder after driving into anti-far-right protesters in
Charlottesville
James Fields, from Ohio, arrested following attack at ???Unite the Right???
gathering, and two police officers die in helicopter crash
Jason Wilson in Charlottesville, Virginia, Edward Helmore and Jon Swaine
Sun 13 Aug 2017 09.45 EDT
First published on Sat 12 Aug 2017 11.48 EDT
This article is 6 months old
One dead after car rams into anti-fascist protesters in Charlottesville
A man has been arrested and charged with murder after a car rammed into
a group of people peacefully protesting against a white supremacist
rally in Charlottesville, Virginia, killing one person and injuring 19.
Police said a 32-year-old woman had died and that they were attempting
to notify her family before releasing more details.
Col Martin Kumer, the superintendent of Albemarle-Charlottesville
regional jail, told the Guardian that 20-year-old James Fields, of Ohio,
had been arrested following the attack on Saturday.
James Fields was charged with second-degree murder.
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???He has been charged with second degree murder, three counts of
malicious wounding and failing to stop at an accident that resulted in a
death,??? Kumer said in an email.
Donald Trump condemned the ???violence on many sides???, but faced criticism
for failing to directly denounce the far-right demonstrators.
In a separate incident, two police officers died when their helicopter,
which was monitoring the far-right rally, crashed outside Charlottesville.
State police said in a statement the helicopter was ???assisting public
safety resources with the ongoing situation??? when it crashed in a wooded
area. The pilot, Lieutenant H Jay Cullen, 48, of Midlothian, Virginia,
and Trooper-pilot Berke Bates of Quinton, Virginia, died at the scene.
The deaths came at the end of a day marked by violent clashes between
far-right nationalists and people who had come to protest against their
occupation of a downtown park containing a statue of the Confederate
general Robert E Lee.
Witnesses said those hit by the car were peacefully protesting against
the white supremacist rally and footage showed the vehicle crashing into
another car, throwing people over the top of it.
Virginia governor says 'go home' to white supremacists and nazis ??? video
Charlottesville: far-right crowd with torches encircles counter-protest
group
Read more
The photographer Pat Jarrett, who witnessed the incident, said: ???A gray
Dodge Charger plowed into a sedan and then into a minivan. Bodies flew.
People were terrified and screaming. Those closest to it said it was
definitely a violent attack. The driver, who people later described as a
skinny white guy with a straggly beard, reversed out of there and drove
off, the front end of his car all smashed up.???
Charlottesville mayor Mike Signer tweeted: ???I am heartbroken that a life
has been lost here. I urge all people of good will ??? go home.???
Speaking at a press conference on Saturday evening, the governor of
Virginia, Terry McAuliffe, who had earlier declared a state of
emergency, told the white supremacists: ???Go home ??? Shame on you. You
pretend you are patriots, but you are anything but a patriot.???
The mother of Fields told the Associated Press on Saturday night that
she knew her son was attending a rally in Virginia but didn???t know it
was a white supremacist rally.
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???I thought it had something to do with Trump. Trump???s not a white
supremacist,??? Samantha Bloom said, before becoming visibly upset as she
learned of the injuries and deaths at the rally ???He had an
African-American friend ???,??? she said before her voice trailed off.
Responding to the events in Charlottesville from Bedminster, New Jersey,
Trump: ???We condemn in the strongest possible terms this egregious
display of hatred, bigotry and violence on many sides, on many sides.???
But the Republican senator Marco Rubio tweeted that it was important for
Trump to describe the events as a ???terror attack by white supremacists???.
The FBI said it was opening a civil rights investigation into the
accident along with the justice department???s civil rights division and
the district attorney???s office.
The US attorney general, Jeff Sessions, said: ???The violence and deaths
in Charlottesville strike at the heart of American law and justice. When
such actions arise from racial bigotry and hatred, they betray our core
values and cannot be tolerated.
NBC News
Why do you always play dumb? We know you're not that dumb. WHat's your
game?
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Do YOU know any leftists from Ohio that went marching around then ran over
a protestor and killed he? Here is your chance to use false equivalency
and say the Leftists are as bad as the Rightwingers.
<crickets>
I answer your questions, but you won't answer mine.
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thing and aren't the least bit subtle about it. It's the left who have
I am not an actor. I played King Kasper in a musical play, but that was
more as a singer than an actor.
Where did I say you are an actor--or anyone else for that matter! You
need to read that again.
Read it again. Some idiot denied that the Russians hired actors. Maybe
the same idiot who denied that Trump hired actors to appear as a crowd
and his event to announce his candidacy.
Citation please
Oh, so you can't admit ANYTHING about Trump.
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/thr-esq/donald-trump-escapes-fec-punishment-paid-actors-at-presidential-announcement-966428
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Post by Anthony Marsh
His campaign would later admit paying $12,000, but given the "modest"
amount, the FEC is exercising discretion and dismissing a complaint he
violated reporting rules.
Citation please
I did already.
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Post by Anthony Marsh
As Donald Trump gets sworn in as the 45th president of the United States,
the Federal Election Commission has closed the chapter on an investigation
on how his presidential campaign started.
Citation please
IBID
Post by Steve Barber
Post by Anthony Marsh
On June 16, 2015, Trump announced he was running for the highest office.
As first detailed in The Hollywood Reporter, the campaign hired actors to
cheer him on. That drew public attention, although it was later
overshadowed by his harsh pronouncement of Mexicans as "rapists." At the
time, Trump's then campaign manager Corey Lewandowski denied paying anyone
to attend the event and said that he had never heard of Extra Mile or
Gotham Government Relations, the two companies that THR reported were
involved in putting out a casting call for people to attend the event.
A few months later, with no disclosures related to this, the American
Democracy Legal Fund filed a complaint, alleging that Trump's campaign
violated the reporting provisions of the Federal Election Campaign Act of
1971.
Donald J. Trump for President, Inc., then admitted paying Gotham $12,000
on Oct. 8, 2015. Gotham reported to the FCC it hired Extra Mile as a
subcontractor to provide support at Trump's announcement. Still, this
doesn't settle the issue because of the allegation that Trump may have
accepted prohibited or excessive contributions from the two companies
involved with hiring the actors.
According to a FEC general counsel's report in March 2016, made public
Thursday, it was "clear" that Trump's campaign "did not pay Gotham for its
services for almost four months after the event, and did not report the
transaction for more than seven months after the event. Thus, Gotham's
apparent extension of credit to the Committee for the services rendered at
the June candidacy announcement may constitute an excessive or prohibited
contribution, and the Committee failed to report the amount it owed Gotham
as a debt."
"However," the report continued, "because of the seemingly modest amount
at issue, we recommend that the Commission exercise its prosecutorial
discretion and dismiss the allegation ..."
That's just what the FEC has done, quietly announcing its decision to
close the file on the complaint on the eve of Trump's inauguration.
Citation for all please
Learn how to click on links and use Google.
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divided America, and it's the left are the violent ones and it's the left
So, you also like to play Trump's game of false equivalency? Which violent
ones on the left? You aren't old enough to remember the Weather
Underground. Again, if you know any violent leftists it is your duty as a
citizen to call the FBI and give them the names. Or are you covering up
for them?
Why would I be "covering up" for leftists, Marsh? If I had the
opportunity to turn in leftists I wouldn't waste a second in doing so!
We all know that you are a leftist here, you don't have to tell us that.
It's written all over your constant postings and in everything you say.
Well, did you need a college education to figure that out?
Proud of being a leftist. Go figure. Why don't you move to Russia?
They'd welcome you with open arms.
Post by Anthony Marsh
Again, I said, if YOU want to play the false equivalency game, pick up
the phone and turn in some of these leftwing wing terrorists that you
think are as dangerous as the neo-Nazis.
I'm not playing any game.
Yes, you are. Playing Trump's game of false equivalency.
"I'm not the Puppet, you're the Puppet."
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who overtook the Democratic party. "Fools"? Look into the mirror, Marsh.
FYI, the left was always dominant in the Democratic Party. That is nothing
new. Bernie tried to push it more to the left and was rejected. I am a
Bernie supporter, but the Democratic Party was not yet prepared to go that
far to the left.
Take it up with Biden.
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Post by Steve Barber
Take that up with Biden. He is the person who said the leftists took
over the Democratic party in 1972.
So what? Was it exactly 1972? Was it in reaction to Nixon.
Again, I reject the lie that JFK was not a leftist.
You attack JFK BECAUSE he was a leftist.
again, ask Biden. He said it!
So what
Biden did not say that the Democractic party never had Liberals before.
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That which you see defines the word.
Hey, man, that's like almost philosophical. Luckily you don't know what
it means.
I know a heck of a lot more than you think, Marsh. You've been warned.
Oh, so now you want to do Cyber Threats and McAdams allows you to make
them here?
"Threats"? LOL!!! Am I that much of a "threat" to you, Marsh by just
saying the words " I know a lot more than you think, Marsh. You've been
warned"? What, exactly is "threatening" about it?
"YOUuve been warned" is a Cyber Threat.
Prove it, Marsh. Show me where it says that the words "You've been
warned" is considered a Cyber threat.
Court decisions.
Post by Steve Barber
By the way...you claim that trolls are people who only use aliases, in
No, silly. I just said that some Commodore BBS only used aliases. Learn
ENglish. Go back and finish grammar school.
Post by Steve Barber
another thread. Nothing could be further from the truth. Try Googling it
once. You will see that a troll can be anyone, just like you. Here's how
Webster Dictionary defines the word. Note that it says *NOTHING* limiting
Well, gee if you look at the wrong page you can see that a Troll is a
mythological creature, maybe even see the movie. We were talking about
Internet trolls. Stay on topic.
Post by Steve Barber
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/troll
a : to antagonize (others) online by deliberately posting inflammatory, irrelevant, or offensive comments or other disruptive content
??? trolls engage in the most outrageous and offensive behaviors possible???all the better to troll you with. ???Whitney Phillips
b : to act as a troll (see 3troll 2) on (a forum, site, etc.)
??? is also notorious, for trolling message boards on the Internet, posting offensive material he himself has written and then suing anyone who responds in agreement. ???Mark Hemingway
c : to harass, criticize, or antagonize (someone) especially by provocatively disparaging or mocking public statements, postings, or acts.
Hmmmmm...I don't see anything about a troll being limited to someone who
only uses aliases. You made that up.
And I never said that. False charge.
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Bob Mueller made an excellent point in the indictments today which many
people here overlook. Some of the collusion was unwitting. As the KGB
used to say - useful idiots.
I have met John McAdams and I have talked to John McAdams in person.
I know he is not a Russian. But he has been enticed by the extreme
rightwing rhetoric of the Trump supporters and did not realize that they
are not his fellow Americans but actually are Russian agents taught to
mimic American hate groups and sow confusion.
Some of the trolls who post here hiding behind ridiculous aliases may
really just be Russian agents whose job is to use social media to sow
discord, distrust, and hatred.
The fools you see shouting "Lock her up" are not real Americans, they
are actors hired by the Russians to stir up hatred to destroy the US.
The leftists have divided America. The democratic party, according to
Joe Biden, was taken over by the Leftist Movement in 1972.
Don't you dare say that people who say "Lock her(Hillary) up" are not
American, Marsh. You President Trump haters are going around screaming at
the sky, and shouting "Lock him up", among other things. The word
False, I never said "lock him up." They are only talking about the
criminals already charged and those who pleaded guilty already. I'm sure
they will only get short sentences as long as they cooperate.
Who is "they"?
Carter Page, Steve Bannon, Paul Manafort, George Papadopoulos and
Michael Flynn, Felix Sater and Rick Gates.
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"extreme" describes the left, perfectly. Funny thing about you guys on the
violent, hate filled left, though. There are no actors. You are the real
So you know some leftists from your home state of Ohio who went out
marching with Tiki Torches and ran down protesters with their cars? Give
me their names or call the FBI and tell them. Why the cover-up?
Huh? Make sense, Marsh.
Well, we know about the extreme rightwinger from Ohio who ran over that
protestor and killed her. You have lots of them in Ohio. Remember, I still
have relatives in Ohio and I went to college there. So I know how racist a
state it it.
Citation please.
Citation? Don't you ever watch TV or listen to the news?
Man charged with murder after driving into anti-far-right protesters in
Charlottesville
James Fields, from Ohio, arrested following attack at ???Unite the Right???
gathering, and two police officers die in helicopter crash
Jason Wilson in Charlottesville, Virginia, Edward Helmore and Jon Swaine
Sun 13 Aug 2017 09.45 EDT
First published on Sat 12 Aug 2017 11.48 EDT
This article is 6 months old
One dead after car rams into anti-fascist protesters in Charlottesville
A man has been arrested and charged with murder after a car rammed into
a group of people peacefully protesting against a white supremacist
rally in Charlottesville, Virginia, killing one person and injuring 19.
Police said a 32-year-old woman had died and that they were attempting
to notify her family before releasing more details.
Col Martin Kumer, the superintendent of Albemarle-Charlottesville
regional jail, told the Guardian that 20-year-old James Fields, of Ohio,
had been arrested following the attack on Saturday.
James Fields was charged with second-degree murder.
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???He has been charged with second degree murder, three counts of
malicious wounding and failing to stop at an accident that resulted in a
death,??? Kumer said in an email.
Donald Trump condemned the ???violence on many sides???, but faced criticism
for failing to directly denounce the far-right demonstrators.
In a separate incident, two police officers died when their helicopter,
which was monitoring the far-right rally, crashed outside Charlottesville.
State police said in a statement the helicopter was ???assisting public
safety resources with the ongoing situation??? when it crashed in a wooded
area. The pilot, Lieutenant H Jay Cullen, 48, of Midlothian, Virginia,
and Trooper-pilot Berke Bates of Quinton, Virginia, died at the scene.
The deaths came at the end of a day marked by violent clashes between
far-right nationalists and people who had come to protest against their
occupation of a downtown park containing a statue of the Confederate
general Robert E Lee.
Witnesses said those hit by the car were peacefully protesting against
the white supremacist rally and footage showed the vehicle crashing into
another car, throwing people over the top of it.
Virginia governor says 'go home' to white supremacists and nazis ??? video
Charlottesville: far-right crowd with torches encircles counter-protest
group
Read more
The photographer Pat Jarrett, who witnessed the incident, said: ???A gray
Dodge Charger plowed into a sedan and then into a minivan. Bodies flew.
People were terrified and screaming. Those closest to it said it was
definitely a violent attack. The driver, who people later described as a
skinny white guy with a straggly beard, reversed out of there and drove
off, the front end of his car all smashed up.???
Charlottesville mayor Mike Signer tweeted: ???I am heartbroken that a life
has been lost here. I urge all people of good will ??? go home.???
Speaking at a press conference on Saturday evening, the governor of
Virginia, Terry McAuliffe, who had earlier declared a state of
emergency, told the white supremacists: ???Go home ??? Shame on you. You
pretend you are patriots, but you are anything but a patriot.???
The mother of Fields told the Associated Press on Saturday night that
she knew her son was attending a rally in Virginia but didn???t know it
was a white supremacist rally.
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???I thought it had something to do with Trump. Trump???s not a white
supremacist,??? Samantha Bloom said, before becoming visibly upset as she
learned of the injuries and deaths at the rally ???He had an
African-American friend ???,??? she said before her voice trailed off.
Responding to the events in Charlottesville from Bedminster, New Jersey,
Trump: ???We condemn in the strongest possible terms this egregious
display of hatred, bigotry and violence on many sides, on many sides.???
But the Republican senator Marco Rubio tweeted that it was important for
Trump to describe the events as a ???terror attack by white supremacists???.
The FBI said it was opening a civil rights investigation into the
accident along with the justice department???s civil rights division and
the district attorney???s office.
The US attorney general, Jeff Sessions, said: ???The violence and deaths
in Charlottesville strike at the heart of American law and justice. When
such actions arise from racial bigotry and hatred, they betray our core
values and cannot be tolerated.
NBC News
Why do you always play dumb? We know you're not that dumb. WHat's your
game?
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Post by Anthony Marsh
Do YOU know any leftists from Ohio that went marching around then ran over
a protestor and killed he? Here is your chance to use false equivalency
and say the Leftists are as bad as the Rightwingers.
<crickets>
I answer your questions, but you won't answer mine.
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thing and aren't the least bit subtle about it. It's the left who have
I am not an actor. I played King Kasper in a musical play, but that was
more as a singer than an actor.
Where did I say you are an actor--or anyone else for that matter! You
need to read that again.
Read it again. Some idiot denied that the Russians hired actors. Maybe
the same idiot who denied that Trump hired actors to appear as a crowd
and his event to announce his candidacy.
Citation please
Oh, so you can't admit ANYTHING about Trump.
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/thr-esq/donald-trump-escapes-fec-punishment-paid-actors-at-presidential-announcement-966428
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Post by Anthony Marsh
His campaign would later admit paying $12,000, but given the "modest"
amount, the FEC is exercising discretion and dismissing a complaint he
violated reporting rules.
Citation please
I did already.
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Post by Anthony Marsh
As Donald Trump gets sworn in as the 45th president of the United States,
the Federal Election Commission has closed the chapter on an investigation
on how his presidential campaign started.
Citation please
IBID
Post by Steve Barber
Post by Anthony Marsh
On June 16, 2015, Trump announced he was running for the highest office.
As first detailed in The Hollywood Reporter, the campaign hired actors to
cheer him on. That drew public attention, although it was later
overshadowed by his harsh pronouncement of Mexicans as "rapists." At the
time, Trump's then campaign manager Corey Lewandowski denied paying anyone
to attend the event and said that he had never heard of Extra Mile or
Gotham Government Relations, the two companies that THR reported were
involved in putting out a casting call for people to attend the event.
A few months later, with no disclosures related to this, the American
Democracy Legal Fund filed a complaint, alleging that Trump's campaign
violated the reporting provisions of the Federal Election Campaign Act of
1971.
Donald J. Trump for President, Inc., then admitted paying Gotham $12,000
on Oct. 8, 2015. Gotham reported to the FCC it hired Extra Mile as a
subcontractor to provide support at Trump's announcement. Still, this
doesn't settle the issue because of the allegation that Trump may have
accepted prohibited or excessive contributions from the two companies
involved with hiring the actors.
According to a FEC general counsel's report in March 2016, made public
Thursday, it was "clear" that Trump's campaign "did not pay Gotham for its
services for almost four months after the event, and did not report the
transaction for more than seven months after the event. Thus, Gotham's
apparent extension of credit to the Committee for the services rendered at
the June candidacy announcement may constitute an excessive or prohibited
contribution, and the Committee failed to report the amount it owed Gotham
as a debt."
"However," the report continued, "because of the seemingly modest amount
at issue, we recommend that the Commission exercise its prosecutorial
discretion and dismiss the allegation ..."
That's just what the FEC has done, quietly announcing its decision to
close the file on the complaint on the eve of Trump's inauguration.
Citation for all please
Learn how to click on links and use Google.
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divided America, and it's the left are the violent ones and it's the left
So, you also like to play Trump's game of false equivalency? Which violent
ones on the left? You aren't old enough to remember the Weather
Underground. Again, if you know any violent leftists it is your duty as a
citizen to call the FBI and give them the names. Or are you covering up
for them?
Why would I be "covering up" for leftists, Marsh? If I had the
opportunity to turn in leftists I wouldn't waste a second in doing so!
We all know that you are a leftist here, you don't have to tell us that.
It's written all over your constant postings and in everything you say.
Well, did you need a college education to figure that out?
Proud of being a leftist. Go figure. Why don't you move to Russia?
They'd welcome you with open arms.
Post by Anthony Marsh
Again, I said, if YOU want to play the false equivalency game, pick up
the phone and turn in some of these leftwing wing terrorists that you
think are as dangerous as the neo-Nazis.
I'm not playing any game.
Yes, you are. Playing Trump's game of false equivalency.
"I'm not the Puppet, you're the Puppet."
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who overtook the Democratic party. "Fools"? Look into the mirror, Marsh.
FYI, the left was always dominant in the Democratic Party. That is nothing
new. Bernie tried to push it more to the left and was rejected. I am a
Bernie supporter, but the Democratic Party was not yet prepared to go that
far to the left.
Take it up with Biden.
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Post by Steve Barber
Take that up with Biden. He is the person who said the leftists took
over the Democratic party in 1972.
So what? Was it exactly 1972? Was it in reaction to Nixon.
Again, I reject the lie that JFK was not a leftist.
You attack JFK BECAUSE he was a leftist.
again, ask Biden. He said it!
So what
Biden did not say that the Democractic party never had Liberals before.
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That which you see defines the word.
Hey, man, that's like almost philosophical. Luckily you don't know what
it means.
I know a heck of a lot more than you think, Marsh. You've been warned.
Oh, so now you want to do Cyber Threats and McAdams allows you to make
them here?
"Threats"? LOL!!! Am I that much of a "threat" to you, Marsh by just
saying the words " I know a lot more than you think, Marsh. You've been
warned"? What, exactly is "threatening" about it?
"YOUuve been warned" is a Cyber Threat.
Prove it, Marsh. Show me where it says that the words "You've been
warned" is considered a Cyber threat.
Court decisions.
Really? I don't believe you. Post a link or tell me where I can find a "Court decision" on the words "You've been warned", Marsh. I Googled it, there's nothing there, so it's up to you to provide me with proof of your claim that the words "You've been warned" are a cyber threat" according to a court decision!
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By the way...you claim that trolls are people who only use aliases, in
No, silly. I just said that some Commodore BBS only used aliases. Learn
ENglish. Go back and finish grammar school.
NOPE! Go back and read your post! You said exactly what I told you.
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Post by Steve Barber
another thread. Nothing could be further from the truth. Try Googling it
once. You will see that a troll can be anyone, just like you. Here's how
Webster Dictionary defines the word. Note that it says *NOTHING* limiting
Well, gee if you look at the wrong page you can see that a Troll is a
mythological creature, maybe even see the movie. We were talking about
Internet trolls. Stay on topic.
Post by Steve Barber
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/troll
a : to antagonize (others) online by deliberately posting inflammatory, irrelevant, or offensive comments or other disruptive content
??? trolls engage in the most outrageous and offensive behaviors possible???all the better to troll you with. ???Whitney Phillips
b : to act as a troll (see 3troll 2) on (a forum, site, etc.)
??? is also notorious, for trolling message boards on the Internet, posting offensive material he himself has written and then suing anyone who responds in agreement. ???Mark Hemingway
c : to harass, criticize, or antagonize (someone) especially by provocatively disparaging or mocking public statements, postings, or acts.
Hmmmmm...I don't see anything about a troll being limited to someone who
only uses aliases. You made that up.
And I never said that. False charge.
Yes, you did, Marsh! Go look at your post!
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Bob Mueller made an excellent point in the indictments today which many
people here overlook. Some of the collusion was unwitting. As the KGB
used to say - useful idiots.
I have met John McAdams and I have talked to John McAdams in person.
I know he is not a Russian. But he has been enticed by the extreme
rightwing rhetoric of the Trump supporters and did not realize that they
are not his fellow Americans but actually are Russian agents taught to
mimic American hate groups and sow confusion.
Some of the trolls who post here hiding behind ridiculous aliases may
really just be Russian agents whose job is to use social media to sow
discord, distrust, and hatred.
The fools you see shouting "Lock her up" are not real Americans, they
are actors hired by the Russians to stir up hatred to destroy the US.
The leftists have divided America. The democratic party, according to
Joe Biden, was taken over by the Leftist Movement in 1972.
Don't you dare say that people who say "Lock her(Hillary) up" are not
American, Marsh. You President Trump haters are going around screaming at
the sky, and shouting "Lock him up", among other things. The word
False, I never said "lock him up." They are only talking about the
criminals already charged and those who pleaded guilty already. I'm sure
they will only get short sentences as long as they cooperate.
Who is "they"?
Carter Page, Steve Bannon, Paul Manafort, George Papadopoulos and
Michael Flynn, Felix Sater and Rick Gates.
Post by Steve Barber
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by Steve Barber
"extreme" describes the left, perfectly. Funny thing about you guys on the
violent, hate filled left, though. There are no actors. You are the real
So you know some leftists from your home state of Ohio who went out
marching with Tiki Torches and ran down protesters with their cars? Give
me their names or call the FBI and tell them. Why the cover-up?
Huh? Make sense, Marsh.
Well, we know about the extreme rightwinger from Ohio who ran over that
protestor and killed her. You have lots of them in Ohio. Remember, I still
have relatives in Ohio and I went to college there. So I know how racist a
state it it.
Citation please.
Citation? Don't you ever watch TV or listen to the news?
Man charged with murder after driving into anti-far-right protesters in
Charlottesville
James Fields, from Ohio, arrested following attack at ???Unite the Right???
gathering, and two police officers die in helicopter crash
Jason Wilson in Charlottesville, Virginia, Edward Helmore and Jon Swaine
Sun 13 Aug 2017 09.45 EDT
First published on Sat 12 Aug 2017 11.48 EDT
This article is 6 months old
One dead after car rams into anti-fascist protesters in Charlottesville
A man has been arrested and charged with murder after a car rammed into
a group of people peacefully protesting against a white supremacist
rally in Charlottesville, Virginia, killing one person and injuring 19.
Police said a 32-year-old woman had died and that they were attempting
to notify her family before releasing more details.
Col Martin Kumer, the superintendent of Albemarle-Charlottesville
regional jail, told the Guardian that 20-year-old James Fields, of Ohio,
had been arrested following the attack on Saturday.
James Fields was charged with second-degree murder.
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???He has been charged with second degree murder, three counts of
malicious wounding and failing to stop at an accident that resulted in a
death,??? Kumer said in an email.
Donald Trump condemned the ???violence on many sides???, but faced criticism
for failing to directly denounce the far-right demonstrators.
In a separate incident, two police officers died when their helicopter,
which was monitoring the far-right rally, crashed outside Charlottesville.
State police said in a statement the helicopter was ???assisting public
safety resources with the ongoing situation??? when it crashed in a wooded
area. The pilot, Lieutenant H Jay Cullen, 48, of Midlothian, Virginia,
and Trooper-pilot Berke Bates of Quinton, Virginia, died at the scene.
The deaths came at the end of a day marked by violent clashes between
far-right nationalists and people who had come to protest against their
occupation of a downtown park containing a statue of the Confederate
general Robert E Lee.
Witnesses said those hit by the car were peacefully protesting against
the white supremacist rally and footage showed the vehicle crashing into
another car, throwing people over the top of it.
Virginia governor says 'go home' to white supremacists and nazis ??? video
Charlottesville: far-right crowd with torches encircles counter-protest
group
Read more
The photographer Pat Jarrett, who witnessed the incident, said: ???A gray
Dodge Charger plowed into a sedan and then into a minivan. Bodies flew.
People were terrified and screaming. Those closest to it said it was
definitely a violent attack. The driver, who people later described as a
skinny white guy with a straggly beard, reversed out of there and drove
off, the front end of his car all smashed up.???
Charlottesville mayor Mike Signer tweeted: ???I am heartbroken that a life
has been lost here. I urge all people of good will ??? go home.???
Speaking at a press conference on Saturday evening, the governor of
Virginia, Terry McAuliffe, who had earlier declared a state of
emergency, told the white supremacists: ???Go home ??? Shame on you. You
pretend you are patriots, but you are anything but a patriot.???
The mother of Fields told the Associated Press on Saturday night that
she knew her son was attending a rally in Virginia but didn???t know it
was a white supremacist rally.
Map
???I thought it had something to do with Trump. Trump???s not a white
supremacist,??? Samantha Bloom said, before becoming visibly upset as she
learned of the injuries and deaths at the rally ???He had an
African-American friend ???,??? she said before her voice trailed off.
Responding to the events in Charlottesville from Bedminster, New Jersey,
Trump: ???We condemn in the strongest possible terms this egregious
display of hatred, bigotry and violence on many sides, on many sides.???
But the Republican senator Marco Rubio tweeted that it was important for
Trump to describe the events as a ???terror attack by white supremacists???.
The FBI said it was opening a civil rights investigation into the
accident along with the justice department???s civil rights division and
the district attorney???s office.
The US attorney general, Jeff Sessions, said: ???The violence and deaths
in Charlottesville strike at the heart of American law and justice. When
such actions arise from racial bigotry and hatred, they betray our core
values and cannot be tolerated.
NBC News
Why do you always play dumb? We know you're not that dumb. WHat's your
game?
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Do YOU know any leftists from Ohio that went marching around then ran over
a protestor and killed he? Here is your chance to use false equivalency
and say the Leftists are as bad as the Rightwingers.
<crickets>
I answer your questions, but you won't answer mine.
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thing and aren't the least bit subtle about it. It's the left who have
I am not an actor. I played King Kasper in a musical play, but that was
more as a singer than an actor.
Where did I say you are an actor--or anyone else for that matter! You
need to read that again.
Read it again. Some idiot denied that the Russians hired actors. Maybe
the same idiot who denied that Trump hired actors to appear as a crowd
and his event to announce his candidacy.
Citation please
Oh, so you can't admit ANYTHING about Trump.
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/thr-esq/donald-trump-escapes-fec-punishment-paid-actors-at-presidential-announcement-966428
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His campaign would later admit paying $12,000, but given the "modest"
amount, the FEC is exercising discretion and dismissing a complaint he
violated reporting rules.
Citation please
I did already.
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As Donald Trump gets sworn in as the 45th president of the United States,
the Federal Election Commission has closed the chapter on an investigation
on how his presidential campaign started.
Citation please
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On June 16, 2015, Trump announced he was running for the highest office.
As first detailed in The Hollywood Reporter, the campaign hired actors to
cheer him on. That drew public attention, although it was later
overshadowed by his harsh pronouncement of Mexicans as "rapists." At the
time, Trump's then campaign manager Corey Lewandowski denied paying anyone
to attend the event and said that he had never heard of Extra Mile or
Gotham Government Relations, the two companies that THR reported were
involved in putting out a casting call for people to attend the event.
A few months later, with no disclosures related to this, the American
Democracy Legal Fund filed a complaint, alleging that Trump's campaign
violated the reporting provisions of the Federal Election Campaign Act of
1971.
Donald J. Trump for President, Inc., then admitted paying Gotham $12,000
on Oct. 8, 2015. Gotham reported to the FCC it hired Extra Mile as a
subcontractor to provide support at Trump's announcement. Still, this
doesn't settle the issue because of the allegation that Trump may have
accepted prohibited or excessive contributions from the two companies
involved with hiring the actors.
According to a FEC general counsel's report in March 2016, made public
Thursday, it was "clear" that Trump's campaign "did not pay Gotham for its
services for almost four months after the event, and did not report the
transaction for more than seven months after the event. Thus, Gotham's
apparent extension of credit to the Committee for the services rendered at
the June candidacy announcement may constitute an excessive or prohibited
contribution, and the Committee failed to report the amount it owed Gotham
as a debt."
"However," the report continued, "because of the seemingly modest amount
at issue, we recommend that the Commission exercise its prosecutorial
discretion and dismiss the allegation ..."
That's just what the FEC has done, quietly announcing its decision to
close the file on the complaint on the eve of Trump's inauguration.
Citation for all please
Learn how to click on links and use Google.
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divided America, and it's the left are the violent ones and it's the left
So, you also like to play Trump's game of false equivalency? Which violent
ones on the left? You aren't old enough to remember the Weather
Underground. Again, if you know any violent leftists it is your duty as a
citizen to call the FBI and give them the names. Or are you covering up
for them?
Why would I be "covering up" for leftists, Marsh? If I had the
opportunity to turn in leftists I wouldn't waste a second in doing so!
We all know that you are a leftist here, you don't have to tell us that.
It's written all over your constant postings and in everything you say.
Well, did you need a college education to figure that out?
Proud of being a leftist. Go figure. Why don't you move to Russia?
They'd welcome you with open arms.
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Again, I said, if YOU want to play the false equivalency game, pick up
the phone and turn in some of these leftwing wing terrorists that you
think are as dangerous as the neo-Nazis.
I'm not playing any game.
Yes, you are. Playing Trump's game of false equivalency.
"I'm not the Puppet, you're the Puppet."
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who overtook the Democratic party. "Fools"? Look into the mirror, Marsh.
FYI, the left was always dominant in the Democratic Party. That is nothing
new. Bernie tried to push it more to the left and was rejected. I am a
Bernie supporter, but the Democratic Party was not yet prepared to go that
far to the left.
Take it up with Biden.
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Take that up with Biden. He is the person who said the leftists took
over the Democratic party in 1972.
So what? Was it exactly 1972? Was it in reaction to Nixon.
Again, I reject the lie that JFK was not a leftist.
You attack JFK BECAUSE he was a leftist.
again, ask Biden. He said it!
So what
Biden did not say that the Democractic party never had Liberals before.
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That which you see defines the word.
Hey, man, that's like almost philosophical. Luckily you don't know what
it means.
I know a heck of a lot more than you think, Marsh. You've been warned.
Oh, so now you want to do Cyber Threats and McAdams allows you to make
them here?
"Threats"? LOL!!! Am I that much of a "threat" to you, Marsh by just
saying the words " I know a lot more than you think, Marsh. You've been
warned"? What, exactly is "threatening" about it?
"YOUuve been warned" is a Cyber Threat.
Prove it, Marsh. Show me where it says that the words "You've been
warned" is considered a Cyber threat.
Court decisions.
Really? I don't believe you. Post a link or tell me where I can find a "Court decision" on the words "You've been warned", Marsh. I Googled it, there's nothing there, so it's up to you to provide me with proof of your claim that the words "You've been warned" are a cyber threat" according to a court decision!
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Man Charged with Harassment Shows that It Can Come in Many Forms??? but
Has he Harassed?

Posted by Steve Karimi | Dec 05, 2014 | 0 Comments

Derek Grube has been charged with misdemeanor and felony harassment after
he posted an ad on Craigslist threatening students at the University of
Washington.

The post, titled ???UW ??? 32???, begins ???Dear UW Kids, Contrary to what
u may believe you are not better than anyone else u are not worth more
than anyone else and u certainly aren't above the rules just cuz u attend
UW and others don't.???

It goes on to criticize the behavior of students who make disruptions at
University libraries, and then threatens those that continue to cause
disruptions there. The post continues, warning, ???I swear to god if this
(expletive) doesn't stop I'm just gonna start shooting you worthless
(expletive) and do the world a huge favor. You've been warned.???

University Police, with the help of craigslist itself, discovered that the
post was made by an iPad that accessed the Internet from the school's
School of Social Work building. They found Grube in the building using an
iPad, where he allegedly admitted making the posting. Along with his iPad,
police also confiscated two hard drives and a cell phone from him.

According to his charging documents, Grube has only been in Seattle for a
few weeks. He is being held in King County Jail and his bail has been set
at $75,000.

This story brings to mind two separate avenues of analysis. First, it
shows that harassment can come in many forms. Harassment can be done in
person, over the phone, or even over the internet. It can come via the
spoken word, a recorded voice, a written word, picture, or video.
Regardless of the method of communication, harassment is harassment in
Washington.

The second avenue is perhaps a bit more relevant and makes this case
interesting. Under Washington law, harassment occurs when one knowingly
threatens an immediate injury??? and those threats create a reasonable
fear in the person threatened that they will be carried out.

A quality defense attorney will look at the facts presented here and
legitimately question whether Grube's post really fulfills the
requirements for a harassment conviction in Washington. The statute
requires that the threat put a reasonable fear in the person threatened.
Here, it is unclear whether the person that reported the post to UW police
was at the school or is even associated with it. Craigslist's Seattle
page, after all, can be viewed from anywhere on the planet.

This case is another example of the benefits of having an experienced
criminal attorney. Grube listed his address as the University Street
Ministry, which serves homeless youth and young adults in and around the
University District. It is likely that he is indigent and without private
counsel.

An experienced attorney, such as one from the Law Office of Steve Karimi,
will ensure that before you are held with excessive bail, the charges
against you meet your conduct. If you have been charged with a crime in
the Greater Seattle area, give him a call. He will ensure your rights are
protected.
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By the way...you claim that trolls are people who only use aliases, in
No, silly. I just said that some Commodore BBS only used aliases. Learn
ENglish. Go back and finish grammar school.
NOPE! Go back and read your post! You said exactly what I told you.
Learn English. Go back to grammar school.
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another thread. Nothing could be further from the truth. Try Googling it
once. You will see that a troll can be anyone, just like you. Here's how
Webster Dictionary defines the word. Note that it says *NOTHING* limiting
Well, gee if you look at the wrong page you can see that a Troll is a
mythological creature, maybe even see the movie. We were talking about
Internet trolls. Stay on topic.
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https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/troll
a : to antagonize (others) online by deliberately posting inflammatory, irrelevant, or offensive comments or other disruptive content
??? trolls engage in the most outrageous and offensive behaviors possible???all the better to troll you with. ???Whitney Phillips
b : to act as a troll (see 3troll 2) on (a forum, site, etc.)
??? is also notorious, for trolling message boards on the Internet, posting offensive material he himself has written and then suing anyone who responds in agreement. ???Mark Hemingway
c : to harass, criticize, or antagonize (someone) especially by provocatively disparaging or mocking public statements, postings, or acts.
Hmmmmm...I don't see anything about a troll being limited to someone who
only uses aliases. You made that up.
And I never said that. False charge.
Yes, you did, Marsh! Go look at your post!
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Bob Mueller made an excellent point in the indictments today which many
people here overlook. Some of the collusion was unwitting. As the KGB
used to say - useful idiots.
I have met John McAdams and I have talked to John McAdams in person.
I know he is not a Russian. But he has been enticed by the extreme
rightwing rhetoric of the Trump supporters and did not realize that they
are not his fellow Americans but actually are Russian agents taught to
mimic American hate groups and sow confusion.
Some of the trolls who post here hiding behind ridiculous aliases may
really just be Russian agents whose job is to use social media to sow
discord, distrust, and hatred.
The fools you see shouting "Lock her up" are not real Americans, they
are actors hired by the Russians to stir up hatred to destroy the US.
The leftists have divided America. The democratic party, according to
Joe Biden, was taken over by the Leftist Movement in 1972.
Don't you dare say that people who say "Lock her(Hillary) up" are not
American, Marsh. You President Trump haters are going around screaming at
the sky, and shouting "Lock him up", among other things. The word
False, I never said "lock him up." They are only talking about the
criminals already charged and those who pleaded guilty already. I'm sure
they will only get short sentences as long as they cooperate.
Who is "they"?
Carter Page, Steve Bannon, Paul Manafort, George Papadopoulos and
Michael Flynn, Felix Sater and Rick Gates.
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"extreme" describes the left, perfectly. Funny thing about you guys on the
violent, hate filled left, though. There are no actors. You are the real
So you know some leftists from your home state of Ohio who went out
marching with Tiki Torches and ran down protesters with their cars? Give
me their names or call the FBI and tell them. Why the cover-up?
Huh? Make sense, Marsh.
Well, we know about the extreme rightwinger from Ohio who ran over that
protestor and killed her. You have lots of them in Ohio. Remember, I still
have relatives in Ohio and I went to college there. So I know how racist a
state it it.
Citation please.
Citation? Don't you ever watch TV or listen to the news?
Man charged with murder after driving into anti-far-right protesters in
Charlottesville
James Fields, from Ohio, arrested following attack at ???Unite the Right???
gathering, and two police officers die in helicopter crash
Jason Wilson in Charlottesville, Virginia, Edward Helmore and Jon Swaine
Sun 13 Aug 2017 09.45 EDT
First published on Sat 12 Aug 2017 11.48 EDT
This article is 6 months old
One dead after car rams into anti-fascist protesters in Charlottesville
A man has been arrested and charged with murder after a car rammed into
a group of people peacefully protesting against a white supremacist
rally in Charlottesville, Virginia, killing one person and injuring 19.
Police said a 32-year-old woman had died and that they were attempting
to notify her family before releasing more details.
Col Martin Kumer, the superintendent of Albemarle-Charlottesville
regional jail, told the Guardian that 20-year-old James Fields, of Ohio,
had been arrested following the attack on Saturday.
James Fields was charged with second-degree murder.
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???He has been charged with second degree murder, three counts of
malicious wounding and failing to stop at an accident that resulted in a
death,??? Kumer said in an email.
Donald Trump condemned the ???violence on many sides???, but faced criticism
for failing to directly denounce the far-right demonstrators.
In a separate incident, two police officers died when their helicopter,
which was monitoring the far-right rally, crashed outside Charlottesville.
State police said in a statement the helicopter was ???assisting public
safety resources with the ongoing situation??? when it crashed in a wooded
area. The pilot, Lieutenant H Jay Cullen, 48, of Midlothian, Virginia,
and Trooper-pilot Berke Bates of Quinton, Virginia, died at the scene.
The deaths came at the end of a day marked by violent clashes between
far-right nationalists and people who had come to protest against their
occupation of a downtown park containing a statue of the Confederate
general Robert E Lee.
Witnesses said those hit by the car were peacefully protesting against
the white supremacist rally and footage showed the vehicle crashing into
another car, throwing people over the top of it.
Virginia governor says 'go home' to white supremacists and nazis ??? video
Charlottesville: far-right crowd with torches encircles counter-protest
group
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The photographer Pat Jarrett, who witnessed the incident, said: ???A gray
Dodge Charger plowed into a sedan and then into a minivan. Bodies flew.
People were terrified and screaming. Those closest to it said it was
definitely a violent attack. The driver, who people later described as a
skinny white guy with a straggly beard, reversed out of there and drove
off, the front end of his car all smashed up.???
Charlottesville mayor Mike Signer tweeted: ???I am heartbroken that a life
has been lost here. I urge all people of good will ??? go home.???
Speaking at a press conference on Saturday evening, the governor of
Virginia, Terry McAuliffe, who had earlier declared a state of
emergency, told the white supremacists: ???Go home ??? Shame on you. You
pretend you are patriots, but you are anything but a patriot.???
The mother of Fields told the Associated Press on Saturday night that
she knew her son was attending a rally in Virginia but didn???t know it
was a white supremacist rally.
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???I thought it had something to do with Trump. Trump???s not a white
supremacist,??? Samantha Bloom said, before becoming visibly upset as she
learned of the injuries and deaths at the rally ???He had an
African-American friend ???,??? she said before her voice trailed off.
Responding to the events in Charlottesville from Bedminster, New Jersey,
Trump: ???We condemn in the strongest possible terms this egregious
display of hatred, bigotry and violence on many sides, on many sides.???
But the Republican senator Marco Rubio tweeted that it was important for
Trump to describe the events as a ???terror attack by white supremacists???.
The FBI said it was opening a civil rights investigation into the
accident along with the justice department???s civil rights division and
the district attorney???s office.
The US attorney general, Jeff Sessions, said: ???The violence and deaths
in Charlottesville strike at the heart of American law and justice. When
such actions arise from racial bigotry and hatred, they betray our core
values and cannot be tolerated.
NBC News
Why do you always play dumb? We know you're not that dumb. WHat's your
game?
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Do YOU know any leftists from Ohio that went marching around then ran over
a protestor and killed he? Here is your chance to use false equivalency
and say the Leftists are as bad as the Rightwingers.
<crickets>
I answer your questions, but you won't answer mine.
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thing and aren't the least bit subtle about it. It's the left who have
I am not an actor. I played King Kasper in a musical play, but that was
more as a singer than an actor.
Where did I say you are an actor--or anyone else for that matter! You
need to read that again.
Read it again. Some idiot denied that the Russians hired actors. Maybe
the same idiot who denied that Trump hired actors to appear as a crowd
and his event to announce his candidacy.
Citation please
Oh, so you can't admit ANYTHING about Trump.
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His campaign would later admit paying $12,000, but given the "modest"
amount, the FEC is exercising discretion and dismissing a complaint he
violated reporting rules.
Citation please
I did already.
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As Donald Trump gets sworn in as the 45th president of the United States,
the Federal Election Commission has closed the chapter on an investigation
on how his presidential campaign started.
Citation please
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On June 16, 2015, Trump announced he was running for the highest office.
As first detailed in The Hollywood Reporter, the campaign hired actors to
cheer him on. That drew public attention, although it was later
overshadowed by his harsh pronouncement of Mexicans as "rapists." At the
time, Trump's then campaign manager Corey Lewandowski denied paying anyone
to attend the event and said that he had never heard of Extra Mile or
Gotham Government Relations, the two companies that THR reported were
involved in putting out a casting call for people to attend the event.
A few months later, with no disclosures related to this, the American
Democracy Legal Fund filed a complaint, alleging that Trump's campaign
violated the reporting provisions of the Federal Election Campaign Act of
1971.
Donald J. Trump for President, Inc., then admitted paying Gotham $12,000
on Oct. 8, 2015. Gotham reported to the FCC it hired Extra Mile as a
subcontractor to provide support at Trump's announcement. Still, this
doesn't settle the issue because of the allegation that Trump may have
accepted prohibited or excessive contributions from the two companies
involved with hiring the actors.
According to a FEC general counsel's report in March 2016, made public
Thursday, it was "clear" that Trump's campaign "did not pay Gotham for its
services for almost four months after the event, and did not report the
transaction for more than seven months after the event. Thus, Gotham's
apparent extension of credit to the Committee for the services rendered at
the June candidacy announcement may constitute an excessive or prohibited
contribution, and the Committee failed to report the amount it owed Gotham
as a debt."
"However," the report continued, "because of the seemingly modest amount
at issue, we recommend that the Commission exercise its prosecutorial
discretion and dismiss the allegation ..."
That's just what the FEC has done, quietly announcing its decision to
close the file on the complaint on the eve of Trump's inauguration.
Citation for all please
Learn how to click on links and use Google.
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divided America, and it's the left are the violent ones and it's the left
So, you also like to play Trump's game of false equivalency? Which violent
ones on the left? You aren't old enough to remember the Weather
Underground. Again, if you know any violent leftists it is your duty as a
citizen to call the FBI and give them the names. Or are you covering up
for them?
Why would I be "covering up" for leftists, Marsh? If I had the
opportunity to turn in leftists I wouldn't waste a second in doing so!
We all know that you are a leftist here, you don't have to tell us that.
It's written all over your constant postings and in everything you say.
Well, did you need a college education to figure that out?
Proud of being a leftist. Go figure. Why don't you move to Russia?
They'd welcome you with open arms.
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Again, I said, if YOU want to play the false equivalency game, pick up
the phone and turn in some of these leftwing wing terrorists that you
think are as dangerous as the neo-Nazis.
I'm not playing any game.
Yes, you are. Playing Trump's game of false equivalency.
"I'm not the Puppet, you're the Puppet."
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who overtook the Democratic party. "Fools"? Look into the mirror, Marsh.
FYI, the left was always dominant in the Democratic Party. That is nothing
new. Bernie tried to push it more to the left and was rejected. I am a
Bernie supporter, but the Democratic Party was not yet prepared to go that
far to the left.
Take it up with Biden.
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Take that up with Biden. He is the person who said the leftists took
over the Democratic party in 1972.
So what? Was it exactly 1972? Was it in reaction to Nixon.
Again, I reject the lie that JFK was not a leftist.
You attack JFK BECAUSE he was a leftist.
again, ask Biden. He said it!
So what
Biden did not say that the Democractic party never had Liberals before.
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That which you see defines the word.
Hey, man, that's like almost philosophical. Luckily you don't know what
it means.
I know a heck of a lot more than you think, Marsh. You've been warned.
Oh, so now you want to do Cyber Threats and McAdams allows you to make
them here?
"Threats"? LOL!!! Am I that much of a "threat" to you, Marsh by just
saying the words " I know a lot more than you think, Marsh. You've been
warned"? What, exactly is "threatening" about it?
"YOUuve been warned" is a Cyber Threat.
Prove it, Marsh. Show me where it says that the words "You've been
warned" is considered a Cyber threat.
Court decisions.
Really? I don't believe you. Post a link or tell me where I can find a "Court decision" on the words "You've been warned", Marsh. I Googled it, there's nothing there, so it's up to you to provide me with proof of your claim that the words "You've been warned" are a cyber threat" according to a court decision!
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Man Charged with Harassment Shows that It Can Come in Many Forms??? but
Has he Harassed?
Posted by Steve Karimi | Dec 05, 2014 | 0 Comments
Derek Grube has been charged with misdemeanor and felony harassment after
he posted an ad on Craigslist threatening students at the University of
Washington.
The post, titled ???UW ??? 32???, begins ???Dear UW Kids, Contrary to what
u may believe you are not better than anyone else u are not worth more
than anyone else and u certainly aren't above the rules just cuz u attend
UW and others don't.???
It goes on to criticize the behavior of students who make disruptions at
University libraries, and then threatens those that continue to cause
disruptions there. The post continues, warning, ???I swear to god if this
(expletive) doesn't stop I'm just gonna start shooting you worthless
(expletive) and do the world a huge favor. You've been warned.???
University Police, with the help of craigslist itself, discovered that the
post was made by an iPad that accessed the Internet from the school's
School of Social Work building. They found Grube in the building using an
iPad, where he allegedly admitted making the posting. Along with his iPad,
police also confiscated two hard drives and a cell phone from him.
According to his charging documents, Grube has only been in Seattle for a
few weeks. He is being held in King County Jail and his bail has been set
at $75,000.
This story brings to mind two separate avenues of analysis. First, it
shows that harassment can come in many forms. Harassment can be done in
person, over the phone, or even over the internet. It can come via the
spoken word, a recorded voice, a written word, picture, or video.
Regardless of the method of communication, harassment is harassment in
Washington.
The second avenue is perhaps a bit more relevant and makes this case
interesting. Under Washington law, harassment occurs when one knowingly
threatens an immediate injury??? and those threats create a reasonable
fear in the person threatened that they will be carried out.
A quality defense attorney will look at the facts presented here and
legitimately question whether Grube's post really fulfills the
requirements for a harassment conviction in Washington. The statute
requires that the threat put a reasonable fear in the person threatened.
Here, it is unclear whether the person that reported the post to UW police
was at the school or is even associated with it. Craigslist's Seattle
page, after all, can be viewed from anywhere on the planet.
This case is another example of the benefits of having an experienced
criminal attorney. Grube listed his address as the University Street
Ministry, which serves homeless youth and young adults in and around the
University District. It is likely that he is indigent and without private
counsel.
An experienced attorney, such as one from the Law Office of Steve Karimi,
will ensure that before you are held with excessive bail, the charges
against you meet your conduct. If you have been charged with a crime in
the Greater Seattle area, give him a call. He will ensure your rights are
protected.
Oh no you don't, Marsh! POST THE LINK to what you copied and pasted
above. I don't trust you any further than I can fly! Post the link to
this!
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By the way...you claim that trolls are people who only use aliases, in
No, silly. I just said that some Commodore BBS only used aliases. Learn
ENglish. Go back and finish grammar school.
NOPE! Go back and read your post! You said exactly what I told you.
Learn English. Go back to grammar school.
Oh no you don't, Marsh. POST THE LINK to what you copied and pasted.
I don't trust you any further than I can fly! Post the link
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another thread. Nothing could be further from the truth. Try Googling it
once. You will see that a troll can be anyone, just like you. Here's how
Webster Dictionary defines the word. Note that it says *NOTHING* limiting
Well, gee if you look at the wrong page you can see that a Troll is a
mythological creature, maybe even see the movie. We were talking about
Internet trolls. Stay on topic.
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https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/troll
a : to antagonize (others) online by deliberately posting inflammatory, irrelevant, or offensive comments or other disruptive content
??? trolls engage in the most outrageous and offensive behaviors possible???all the better to troll you with. ???Whitney Phillips
b : to act as a troll (see 3troll 2) on (a forum, site, etc.)
??? is also notorious, for trolling message boards on the Internet, posting offensive material he himself has written and then suing anyone who responds in agreement. ???Mark Hemingway
c : to harass, criticize, or antagonize (someone) especially by provocatively disparaging or mocking public statements, postings, or acts.
Hmmmmm...I don't see anything about a troll being limited to someone who
only uses aliases. You made that up.
And I never said that. False charge.
Yes, you did, Marsh! Go look at your post!
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Bob Mueller made an excellent point in the indictments today which many
people here overlook. Some of the collusion was unwitting. As the KGB
used to say - useful idiots.
I have met John McAdams and I have talked to John McAdams in person.
I know he is not a Russian. But he has been enticed by the extreme
rightwing rhetoric of the Trump supporters and did not realize that they
are not his fellow Americans but actually are Russian agents taught to
mimic American hate groups and sow confusion.
Some of the trolls who post here hiding behind ridiculous aliases may
really just be Russian agents whose job is to use social media to sow
discord, distrust, and hatred.
The fools you see shouting "Lock her up" are not real Americans, they
are actors hired by the Russians to stir up hatred to destroy the US.
The leftists have divided America. The democratic party, according to
Joe Biden, was taken over by the Leftist Movement in 1972.
Don't you dare say that people who say "Lock her(Hillary) up" are not
American, Marsh. You President Trump haters are going around screaming at
the sky, and shouting "Lock him up", among other things. The word
False, I never said "lock him up." They are only talking about the
criminals already charged and those who pleaded guilty already. I'm sure
they will only get short sentences as long as they cooperate.
Who is "they"?
Carter Page, Steve Bannon, Paul Manafort, George Papadopoulos and
Michael Flynn, Felix Sater and Rick Gates.
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"extreme" describes the left, perfectly. Funny thing about you guys on the
violent, hate filled left, though. There are no actors. You are the real
So you know some leftists from your home state of Ohio who went out
marching with Tiki Torches and ran down protesters with their cars? Give
me their names or call the FBI and tell them. Why the cover-up?
Huh? Make sense, Marsh.
Well, we know about the extreme rightwinger from Ohio who ran over that
protestor and killed her. You have lots of them in Ohio. Remember, I still
have relatives in Ohio and I went to college there. So I know how racist a
state it it.
Citation please.
Citation? Don't you ever watch TV or listen to the news?
Man charged with murder after driving into anti-far-right protesters in
Charlottesville
James Fields, from Ohio, arrested following attack at ???Unite the Right???
gathering, and two police officers die in helicopter crash
Jason Wilson in Charlottesville, Virginia, Edward Helmore and Jon Swaine
Sun 13 Aug 2017 09.45 EDT
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One dead after car rams into anti-fascist protesters in Charlottesville
A man has been arrested and charged with murder after a car rammed into
a group of people peacefully protesting against a white supremacist
rally in Charlottesville, Virginia, killing one person and injuring 19.
Police said a 32-year-old woman had died and that they were attempting
to notify her family before releasing more details.
Col Martin Kumer, the superintendent of Albemarle-Charlottesville
regional jail, told the Guardian that 20-year-old James Fields, of Ohio,
had been arrested following the attack on Saturday.
James Fields was charged with second-degree murder.
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???He has been charged with second degree murder, three counts of
malicious wounding and failing to stop at an accident that resulted in a
death,??? Kumer said in an email.
Donald Trump condemned the ???violence on many sides???, but faced criticism
for failing to directly denounce the far-right demonstrators.
In a separate incident, two police officers died when their helicopter,
which was monitoring the far-right rally, crashed outside Charlottesville.
State police said in a statement the helicopter was ???assisting public
safety resources with the ongoing situation??? when it crashed in a wooded
area. The pilot, Lieutenant H Jay Cullen, 48, of Midlothian, Virginia,
and Trooper-pilot Berke Bates of Quinton, Virginia, died at the scene.
The deaths came at the end of a day marked by violent clashes between
far-right nationalists and people who had come to protest against their
occupation of a downtown park containing a statue of the Confederate
general Robert E Lee.
Witnesses said those hit by the car were peacefully protesting against
the white supremacist rally and footage showed the vehicle crashing into
another car, throwing people over the top of it.
Virginia governor says 'go home' to white supremacists and nazis ??? video
Charlottesville: far-right crowd with torches encircles counter-protest
group
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The photographer Pat Jarrett, who witnessed the incident, said: ???A gray
Dodge Charger plowed into a sedan and then into a minivan. Bodies flew.
People were terrified and screaming. Those closest to it said it was
definitely a violent attack. The driver, who people later described as a
skinny white guy with a straggly beard, reversed out of there and drove
off, the front end of his car all smashed up.???
Charlottesville mayor Mike Signer tweeted: ???I am heartbroken that a life
has been lost here. I urge all people of good will ??? go home.???
Speaking at a press conference on Saturday evening, the governor of
Virginia, Terry McAuliffe, who had earlier declared a state of
emergency, told the white supremacists: ???Go home ??? Shame on you. You
pretend you are patriots, but you are anything but a patriot.???
The mother of Fields told the Associated Press on Saturday night that
she knew her son was attending a rally in Virginia but didn???t know it
was a white supremacist rally.
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???I thought it had something to do with Trump. Trump???s not a white
supremacist,??? Samantha Bloom said, before becoming visibly upset as she
learned of the injuries and deaths at the rally ???He had an
African-American friend ???,??? she said before her voice trailed off.
Responding to the events in Charlottesville from Bedminster, New Jersey,
Trump: ???We condemn in the strongest possible terms this egregious
display of hatred, bigotry and violence on many sides, on many sides.???
But the Republican senator Marco Rubio tweeted that it was important for
Trump to describe the events as a ???terror attack by white supremacists???.
The FBI said it was opening a civil rights investigation into the
accident along with the justice department???s civil rights division and
the district attorney???s office.
The US attorney general, Jeff Sessions, said: ???The violence and deaths
in Charlottesville strike at the heart of American law and justice. When
such actions arise from racial bigotry and hatred, they betray our core
values and cannot be tolerated.
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Why do you always play dumb? We know you're not that dumb. WHat's your
game?
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Do YOU know any leftists from Ohio that went marching around then ran over
a protestor and killed he? Here is your chance to use false equivalency
and say the Leftists are as bad as the Rightwingers.
<crickets>
I answer your questions, but you won't answer mine.
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thing and aren't the least bit subtle about it. It's the left who have
I am not an actor. I played King Kasper in a musical play, but that was
more as a singer than an actor.
Where did I say you are an actor--or anyone else for that matter! You
need to read that again.
Read it again. Some idiot denied that the Russians hired actors. Maybe
the same idiot who denied that Trump hired actors to appear as a crowd
and his event to announce his candidacy.
Citation please
Oh, so you can't admit ANYTHING about Trump.
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/thr-esq/donald-trump-escapes-fec-punishment-paid-actors-at-presidential-announcement-966428
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His campaign would later admit paying $12,000, but given the "modest"
amount, the FEC is exercising discretion and dismissing a complaint he
violated reporting rules.
Citation please
I did already.
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As Donald Trump gets sworn in as the 45th president of the United States,
the Federal Election Commission has closed the chapter on an investigation
on how his presidential campaign started.
Citation please
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On June 16, 2015, Trump announced he was running for the highest office.
As first detailed in The Hollywood Reporter, the campaign hired actors to
cheer him on. That drew public attention, although it was later
overshadowed by his harsh pronouncement of Mexicans as "rapists." At the
time, Trump's then campaign manager Corey Lewandowski denied paying anyone
to attend the event and said that he had never heard of Extra Mile or
Gotham Government Relations, the two companies that THR reported were
involved in putting out a casting call for people to attend the event.
A few months later, with no disclosures related to this, the American
Democracy Legal Fund filed a complaint, alleging that Trump's campaign
violated the reporting provisions of the Federal Election Campaign Act of
1971.
Donald J. Trump for President, Inc., then admitted paying Gotham $12,000
on Oct. 8, 2015. Gotham reported to the FCC it hired Extra Mile as a
subcontractor to provide support at Trump's announcement. Still, this
doesn't settle the issue because of the allegation that Trump may have
accepted prohibited or excessive contributions from the two companies
involved with hiring the actors.
According to a FEC general counsel's report in March 2016, made public
Thursday, it was "clear" that Trump's campaign "did not pay Gotham for its
services for almost four months after the event, and did not report the
transaction for more than seven months after the event. Thus, Gotham's
apparent extension of credit to the Committee for the services rendered at
the June candidacy announcement may constitute an excessive or prohibited
contribution, and the Committee failed to report the amount it owed Gotham
as a debt."
"However," the report continued, "because of the seemingly modest amount
at issue, we recommend that the Commission exercise its prosecutorial
discretion and dismiss the allegation ..."
That's just what the FEC has done, quietly announcing its decision to
close the file on the complaint on the eve of Trump's inauguration.
Citation for all please
Learn how to click on links and use Google.
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divided America, and it's the left are the violent ones and it's the left
So, you also like to play Trump's game of false equivalency? Which violent
ones on the left? You aren't old enough to remember the Weather
Underground. Again, if you know any violent leftists it is your duty as a
citizen to call the FBI and give them the names. Or are you covering up
for them?
Why would I be "covering up" for leftists, Marsh? If I had the
opportunity to turn in leftists I wouldn't waste a second in doing so!
We all know that you are a leftist here, you don't have to tell us that.
It's written all over your constant postings and in everything you say.
Well, did you need a college education to figure that out?
Proud of being a leftist. Go figure. Why don't you move to Russia?
They'd welcome you with open arms.
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Again, I said, if YOU want to play the false equivalency game, pick up
the phone and turn in some of these leftwing wing terrorists that you
think are as dangerous as the neo-Nazis.
I'm not playing any game.
Yes, you are. Playing Trump's game of false equivalency.
"I'm not the Puppet, you're the Puppet."
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who overtook the Democratic party. "Fools"? Look into the mirror, Marsh.
FYI, the left was always dominant in the Democratic Party. That is nothing
new. Bernie tried to push it more to the left and was rejected. I am a
Bernie supporter, but the Democratic Party was not yet prepared to go that
far to the left.
Take it up with Biden.
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Take that up with Biden. He is the person who said the leftists took
over the Democratic party in 1972.
So what? Was it exactly 1972? Was it in reaction to Nixon.
Again, I reject the lie that JFK was not a leftist.
You attack JFK BECAUSE he was a leftist.
again, ask Biden. He said it!
So what
Biden did not say that the Democractic party never had Liberals before.
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That which you see defines the word.
Hey, man, that's like almost philosophical. Luckily you don't know what
it means.
I know a heck of a lot more than you think, Marsh. You've been warned.
Oh, so now you want to do Cyber Threats and McAdams allows you to make
them here?
"Threats"? LOL!!! Am I that much of a "threat" to you, Marsh by just
saying the words " I know a lot more than you think, Marsh. You've been
warned"? What, exactly is "threatening" about it?
"YOUuve been warned" is a Cyber Threat.
Prove it, Marsh. Show me where it says that the words "You've been
warned" is considered a Cyber threat.
Court decisions.
Really? I don't believe you. Post a link or tell me where I can find a "Court decision" on the words "You've been warned", Marsh. I Googled it, there's nothing there, so it's up to you to provide me with proof of your claim that the words "You've been warned" are a cyber threat" according to a court decision!
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Man Charged with Harassment Shows that It Can Come in Many Forms??? but
Has he Harassed?
Posted by Steve Karimi | Dec 05, 2014 | 0 Comments
Derek Grube has been charged with misdemeanor and felony harassment after
he posted an ad on Craigslist threatening students at the University of
Washington.
The post, titled ???UW ??? 32???, begins ???Dear UW Kids, Contrary to what
u may believe you are not better than anyone else u are not worth more
than anyone else and u certainly aren't above the rules just cuz u attend
UW and others don't.???
It goes on to criticize the behavior of students who make disruptions at
University libraries, and then threatens those that continue to cause
disruptions there. The post continues, warning, ???I swear to god if this
(expletive) doesn't stop I'm just gonna start shooting you worthless
(expletive) and do the world a huge favor. You've been warned.???
University Police, with the help of craigslist itself, discovered that the
post was made by an iPad that accessed the Internet from the school's
School of Social Work building. They found Grube in the building using an
iPad, where he allegedly admitted making the posting. Along with his iPad,
police also confiscated two hard drives and a cell phone from him.
According to his charging documents, Grube has only been in Seattle for a
few weeks. He is being held in King County Jail and his bail has been set
at $75,000.
This story brings to mind two separate avenues of analysis. First, it
shows that harassment can come in many forms. Harassment can be done in
person, over the phone, or even over the internet. It can come via the
spoken word, a recorded voice, a written word, picture, or video.
Regardless of the method of communication, harassment is harassment in
Washington.
The second avenue is perhaps a bit more relevant and makes this case
interesting. Under Washington law, harassment occurs when one knowingly
threatens an immediate injury??? and those threats create a reasonable
fear in the person threatened that they will be carried out.
A quality defense attorney will look at the facts presented here and
legitimately question whether Grube's post really fulfills the
requirements for a harassment conviction in Washington. The statute
requires that the threat put a reasonable fear in the person threatened.
Here, it is unclear whether the person that reported the post to UW police
was at the school or is even associated with it. Craigslist's Seattle
page, after all, can be viewed from anywhere on the planet.
This case is another example of the benefits of having an experienced
criminal attorney. Grube listed his address as the University Street
Ministry, which serves homeless youth and young adults in and around the
University District. It is likely that he is indigent and without private
counsel.
An experienced attorney, such as one from the Law Office of Steve Karimi,
will ensure that before you are held with excessive bail, the charges
against you meet your conduct. If you have been charged with a crime in
the Greater Seattle area, give him a call. He will ensure your rights are
protected.
Oh no you don't, Marsh! POST THE LINK to what you copied and pasted
above. I don't trust you any further than I can fly! Post the link to
this!
So you can't Google it yourself? IF I just posted the link without quoting
it you would not have bothered reading it. Are you trying to dispute it.

It would save us all some time if you would flag your messages like this
at the top with NO CONTENT: JUST MINDLSS ATTACKS.
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By the way...you claim that trolls are people who only use aliases, in
No, silly. I just said that some Commodore BBS only used aliases. Learn
ENglish. Go back and finish grammar school.
NOPE! Go back and read your post! You said exactly what I told you.
Learn English. Go back to grammar school.
Oh no you don't, Marsh. POST THE LINK to what you copied and pasted.
I don't trust you any further than I can fly! Post the link
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another thread. Nothing could be further from the truth. Try Googling it
once. You will see that a troll can be anyone, just like you. Here's how
Webster Dictionary defines the word. Note that it says *NOTHING* limiting
Well, gee if you look at the wrong page you can see that a Troll is a
mythological creature, maybe even see the movie. We were talking about
Internet trolls. Stay on topic.
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https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/troll
a : to antagonize (others) online by deliberately posting inflammatory, irrelevant, or offensive comments or other disruptive content
??? trolls engage in the most outrageous and offensive behaviors possible???all the better to troll you with. ???Whitney Phillips
b : to act as a troll (see 3troll 2) on (a forum, site, etc.)
??? is also notorious, for trolling message boards on the Internet, posting offensive material he himself has written and then suing anyone who responds in agreement. ???Mark Hemingway
c : to harass, criticize, or antagonize (someone) especially by provocatively disparaging or mocking public statements, postings, or acts.
Hmmmmm...I don't see anything about a troll being limited to someone who
only uses aliases. You made that up.
And I never said that. False charge.
Yes, you did, Marsh! Go look at your post!
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Bob Mueller made an excellent point in the indictments today which many
people here overlook. Some of the collusion was unwitting. As the KGB
used to say - useful idiots.
I have met John McAdams and I have talked to John McAdams in person.
I know he is not a Russian. But he has been enticed by the extreme
rightwing rhetoric of the Trump supporters and did not realize that they
are not his fellow Americans but actually are Russian agents taught to
mimic American hate groups and sow confusion.
Some of the trolls who post here hiding behind ridiculous aliases may
really just be Russian agents whose job is to use social media to sow
discord, distrust, and hatred.
The fools you see shouting "Lock her up" are not real Americans, they
are actors hired by the Russians to stir up hatred to destroy the US.
The leftists have divided America. The democratic party, according to
Joe Biden, was taken over by the Leftist Movement in 1972.
Don't you dare say that people who say "Lock her(Hillary) up" are not
American, Marsh. You President Trump haters are going around screaming at
the sky, and shouting "Lock him up", among other things. The word
False, I never said "lock him up." They are only talking about the
criminals already charged and those who pleaded guilty already. I'm sure
they will only get short sentences as long as they cooperate.
Who is "they"?
Carter Page, Steve Bannon, Paul Manafort, George Papadopoulos and
Michael Flynn, Felix Sater and Rick Gates.
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"extreme" describes the left, perfectly. Funny thing about you guys on the
violent, hate filled left, though. There are no actors. You are the real
So you know some leftists from your home state of Ohio who went out
marching with Tiki Torches and ran down protesters with their cars? Give
me their names or call the FBI and tell them. Why the cover-up?
Huh? Make sense, Marsh.
Well, we know about the extreme rightwinger from Ohio who ran over that
protestor and killed her. You have lots of them in Ohio. Remember, I still
have relatives in Ohio and I went to college there. So I know how racist a
state it it.
Citation please.
Citation? Don't you ever watch TV or listen to the news?
Man charged with murder after driving into anti-far-right protesters in
Charlottesville
James Fields, from Ohio, arrested following attack at ???Unite the Right???
gathering, and two police officers die in helicopter crash
Jason Wilson in Charlottesville, Virginia, Edward Helmore and Jon Swaine
Sun 13 Aug 2017 09.45 EDT
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One dead after car rams into anti-fascist protesters in Charlottesville
A man has been arrested and charged with murder after a car rammed into
a group of people peacefully protesting against a white supremacist
rally in Charlottesville, Virginia, killing one person and injuring 19.
Police said a 32-year-old woman had died and that they were attempting
to notify her family before releasing more details.
Col Martin Kumer, the superintendent of Albemarle-Charlottesville
regional jail, told the Guardian that 20-year-old James Fields, of Ohio,
had been arrested following the attack on Saturday.
James Fields was charged with second-degree murder.
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???He has been charged with second degree murder, three counts of
malicious wounding and failing to stop at an accident that resulted in a
death,??? Kumer said in an email.
Donald Trump condemned the ???violence on many sides???, but faced criticism
for failing to directly denounce the far-right demonstrators.
In a separate incident, two police officers died when their helicopter,
which was monitoring the far-right rally, crashed outside Charlottesville.
State police said in a statement the helicopter was ???assisting public
safety resources with the ongoing situation??? when it crashed in a wooded
area. The pilot, Lieutenant H Jay Cullen, 48, of Midlothian, Virginia,
and Trooper-pilot Berke Bates of Quinton, Virginia, died at the scene.
The deaths came at the end of a day marked by violent clashes between
far-right nationalists and people who had come to protest against their
occupation of a downtown park containing a statue of the Confederate
general Robert E Lee.
Witnesses said those hit by the car were peacefully protesting against
the white supremacist rally and footage showed the vehicle crashing into
another car, throwing people over the top of it.
Virginia governor says 'go home' to white supremacists and nazis ??? video
Charlottesville: far-right crowd with torches encircles counter-protest
group
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The photographer Pat Jarrett, who witnessed the incident, said: ???A gray
Dodge Charger plowed into a sedan and then into a minivan. Bodies flew.
People were terrified and screaming. Those closest to it said it was
definitely a violent attack. The driver, who people later described as a
skinny white guy with a straggly beard, reversed out of there and drove
off, the front end of his car all smashed up.???
Charlottesville mayor Mike Signer tweeted: ???I am heartbroken that a life
has been lost here. I urge all people of good will ??? go home.???
Speaking at a press conference on Saturday evening, the governor of
Virginia, Terry McAuliffe, who had earlier declared a state of
emergency, told the white supremacists: ???Go home ??? Shame on you. You
pretend you are patriots, but you are anything but a patriot.???
The mother of Fields told the Associated Press on Saturday night that
she knew her son was attending a rally in Virginia but didn???t know it
was a white supremacist rally.
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???I thought it had something to do with Trump. Trump???s not a white
supremacist,??? Samantha Bloom said, before becoming visibly upset as she
learned of the injuries and deaths at the rally ???He had an
African-American friend ???,??? she said before her voice trailed off.
Responding to the events in Charlottesville from Bedminster, New Jersey,
Trump: ???We condemn in the strongest possible terms this egregious
display of hatred, bigotry and violence on many sides, on many sides.???
But the Republican senator Marco Rubio tweeted that it was important for
Trump to describe the events as a ???terror attack by white supremacists???.
The FBI said it was opening a civil rights investigation into the
accident along with the justice department???s civil rights division and
the district attorney???s office.
The US attorney general, Jeff Sessions, said: ???The violence and deaths
in Charlottesville strike at the heart of American law and justice. When
such actions arise from racial bigotry and hatred, they betray our core
values and cannot be tolerated.
NBC News
Why do you always play dumb? We know you're not that dumb. WHat's your
game?
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Do YOU know any leftists from Ohio that went marching around then ran over
a protestor and killed he? Here is your chance to use false equivalency
and say the Leftists are as bad as the Rightwingers.
<crickets>
I answer your questions, but you won't answer mine.
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thing and aren't the least bit subtle about it. It's the left who have
I am not an actor. I played King Kasper in a musical play, but that was
more as a singer than an actor.
Where did I say you are an actor--or anyone else for that matter! You
need to read that again.
Read it again. Some idiot denied that the Russians hired actors. Maybe
the same idiot who denied that Trump hired actors to appear as a crowd
and his event to announce his candidacy.
Citation please
Oh, so you can't admit ANYTHING about Trump.
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His campaign would later admit paying $12,000, but given the "modest"
amount, the FEC is exercising discretion and dismissing a complaint he
violated reporting rules.
Citation please
I did already.
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As Donald Trump gets sworn in as the 45th president of the United States,
the Federal Election Commission has closed the chapter on an investigation
on how his presidential campaign started.
Citation please
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On June 16, 2015, Trump announced he was running for the highest office.
As first detailed in The Hollywood Reporter, the campaign hired actors to
cheer him on. That drew public attention, although it was later
overshadowed by his harsh pronouncement of Mexicans as "rapists." At the
time, Trump's then campaign manager Corey Lewandowski denied paying anyone
to attend the event and said that he had never heard of Extra Mile or
Gotham Government Relations, the two companies that THR reported were
involved in putting out a casting call for people to attend the event.
A few months later, with no disclosures related to this, the American
Democracy Legal Fund filed a complaint, alleging that Trump's campaign
violated the reporting provisions of the Federal Election Campaign Act of
1971.
Donald J. Trump for President, Inc., then admitted paying Gotham $12,000
on Oct. 8, 2015. Gotham reported to the FCC it hired Extra Mile as a
subcontractor to provide support at Trump's announcement. Still, this
doesn't settle the issue because of the allegation that Trump may have
accepted prohibited or excessive contributions from the two companies
involved with hiring the actors.
According to a FEC general counsel's report in March 2016, made public
Thursday, it was "clear" that Trump's campaign "did not pay Gotham for its
services for almost four months after the event, and did not report the
transaction for more than seven months after the event. Thus, Gotham's
apparent extension of credit to the Committee for the services rendered at
the June candidacy announcement may constitute an excessive or prohibited
contribution, and the Committee failed to report the amount it owed Gotham
as a debt."
"However," the report continued, "because of the seemingly modest amount
at issue, we recommend that the Commission exercise its prosecutorial
discretion and dismiss the allegation ..."
That's just what the FEC has done, quietly announcing its decision to
close the file on the complaint on the eve of Trump's inauguration.
Citation for all please
Learn how to click on links and use Google.
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divided America, and it's the left are the violent ones and it's the left
So, you also like to play Trump's game of false equivalency? Which violent
ones on the left? You aren't old enough to remember the Weather
Underground. Again, if you know any violent leftists it is your duty as a
citizen to call the FBI and give them the names. Or are you covering up
for them?
Why would I be "covering up" for leftists, Marsh? If I had the
opportunity to turn in leftists I wouldn't waste a second in doing so!
We all know that you are a leftist here, you don't have to tell us that.
It's written all over your constant postings and in everything you say.
Well, did you need a college education to figure that out?
Proud of being a leftist. Go figure. Why don't you move to Russia?
They'd welcome you with open arms.
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Again, I said, if YOU want to play the false equivalency game, pick up
the phone and turn in some of these leftwing wing terrorists that you
think are as dangerous as the neo-Nazis.
I'm not playing any game.
Yes, you are. Playing Trump's game of false equivalency.
"I'm not the Puppet, you're the Puppet."
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who overtook the Democratic party. "Fools"? Look into the mirror, Marsh.
FYI, the left was always dominant in the Democratic Party. That is nothing
new. Bernie tried to push it more to the left and was rejected. I am a
Bernie supporter, but the Democratic Party was not yet prepared to go that
far to the left.
Take it up with Biden.
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Take that up with Biden. He is the person who said the leftists took
over the Democratic party in 1972.
So what? Was it exactly 1972? Was it in reaction to Nixon.
Again, I reject the lie that JFK was not a leftist.
You attack JFK BECAUSE he was a leftist.
again, ask Biden. He said it!
So what
Biden did not say that the Democractic party never had Liberals before.
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That which you see defines the word.
Hey, man, that's like almost philosophical. Luckily you don't know what
it means.
I know a heck of a lot more than you think, Marsh. You've been warned.
Oh, so now you want to do Cyber Threats and McAdams allows you to make
them here?
"Threats"? LOL!!! Am I that much of a "threat" to you, Marsh by just
saying the words " I know a lot more than you think, Marsh. You've been
warned"? What, exactly is "threatening" about it?
"YOUuve been warned" is a Cyber Threat.
Prove it, Marsh. Show me where it says that the words "You've been
warned" is considered a Cyber threat.
Court decisions.
Really? I don't believe you. Post a link or tell me where I can find a "Court decision" on the words "You've been warned", Marsh. I Googled it, there's nothing there, so it's up to you to provide me with proof of your claim that the words "You've been warned" are a cyber threat" according to a court decision!
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Man Charged with Harassment Shows that It Can Come in Many Forms??? but
Has he Harassed?
Posted by Steve Karimi | Dec 05, 2014 | 0 Comments
Derek Grube has been charged with misdemeanor and felony harassment after
he posted an ad on Craigslist threatening students at the University of
Washington.
The post, titled ???UW ??? 32???, begins ???Dear UW Kids, Contrary to what
u may believe you are not better than anyone else u are not worth more
than anyone else and u certainly aren't above the rules just cuz u attend
UW and others don't.???
It goes on to criticize the behavior of students who make disruptions at
University libraries, and then threatens those that continue to cause
disruptions there. The post continues, warning, ???I swear to god if this
(expletive) doesn't stop I'm just gonna start shooting you worthless
(expletive) and do the world a huge favor. You've been warned.???
University Police, with the help of craigslist itself, discovered that the
post was made by an iPad that accessed the Internet from the school's
School of Social Work building. They found Grube in the building using an
iPad, where he allegedly admitted making the posting. Along with his iPad,
police also confiscated two hard drives and a cell phone from him.
According to his charging documents, Grube has only been in Seattle for a
few weeks. He is being held in King County Jail and his bail has been set
at $75,000.
This story brings to mind two separate avenues of analysis. First, it
shows that harassment can come in many forms. Harassment can be done in
person, over the phone, or even over the internet. It can come via the
spoken word, a recorded voice, a written word, picture, or video.
Regardless of the method of communication, harassment is harassment in
Washington.
The second avenue is perhaps a bit more relevant and makes this case
interesting. Under Washington law, harassment occurs when one knowingly
threatens an immediate injury??? and those threats create a reasonable
fear in the person threatened that they will be carried out.
A quality defense attorney will look at the facts presented here and
legitimately question whether Grube's post really fulfills the
requirements for a harassment conviction in Washington. The statute
requires that the threat put a reasonable fear in the person threatened.
Here, it is unclear whether the person that reported the post to UW police
was at the school or is even associated with it. Craigslist's Seattle
page, after all, can be viewed from anywhere on the planet.
This case is another example of the benefits of having an experienced
criminal attorney. Grube listed his address as the University Street
Ministry, which serves homeless youth and young adults in and around the
University District. It is likely that he is indigent and without private
counsel.
An experienced attorney, such as one from the Law Office of Steve Karimi,
will ensure that before you are held with excessive bail, the charges
against you meet your conduct. If you have been charged with a crime in
the Greater Seattle area, give him a call. He will ensure your rights are
protected.
Oh no you don't, Marsh! POST THE LINK to what you copied and pasted
above. I don't trust you any further than I can fly! Post the link to
this!
So you can't Google it yourself? IF I just posted the link without quoting
it you would not have bothered reading it. Are you trying to dispute it.
As I said above,I repeat:


"Really? I don't believe you. Post a link or tell me where I can find
a "Court decision" on the words "You've been warned", Marsh. I Googled it,
there's nothing there, so it's up to you to provide me with proof of your
claim that the words "You've been warned" are a cyber threat" according to
a court decision!" Posting copied and pasted drivel without posting the
link isn't the way to do things, yet you try to pull that crap.

You either post the link, or keep quiet, Marsh. I googled and there is
nothing about any court decision calling the words "You've been warned" a
"cyber threat". Stop insulting people by expecting us to take you at your
word. I don't trust you any more than I could pick you up and throw you.
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It would save us all some time if you would flag your messages like this
at the top with NO CONTENT: JUST MINDLSS ATTACKS.
It would save us all a lot of grief if you would post links and/or
citations to back up the things that you say!!!

"Mindlss(sic) attacks". That's cute, Marsh.
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By the way...you claim that trolls are people who only use aliases, in
No, silly. I just said that some Commodore BBS only used aliases. Learn
ENglish. Go back and finish grammar school.
NOPE! Go back and read your post! You said exactly what I told you.
Learn English. Go back to grammar school.
Oh no you don't, Marsh. POST THE LINK to what you copied and pasted.
I don't trust you any further than I can fly! Post the link
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another thread. Nothing could be further from the truth. Try Googling it
once. You will see that a troll can be anyone, just like you. Here's how
Webster Dictionary defines the word. Note that it says *NOTHING* limiting
Well, gee if you look at the wrong page you can see that a Troll is a
mythological creature, maybe even see the movie. We were talking about
Internet trolls. Stay on topic.
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https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/troll
a : to antagonize (others) online by deliberately posting inflammatory, irrelevant, or offensive comments or other disruptive content
??? trolls engage in the most outrageous and offensive behaviors possible???all the better to troll you with. ???Whitney Phillips
b : to act as a troll (see 3troll 2) on (a forum, site, etc.)
??? is also notorious, for trolling message boards on the Internet, posting offensive material he himself has written and then suing anyone who responds in agreement. ???Mark Hemingway
c : to harass, criticize, or antagonize (someone) especially by provocatively disparaging or mocking public statements, postings, or acts.
Hmmmmm...I don't see anything about a troll being limited to someone who
only uses aliases. You made that up.
And I never said that. False charge.
Yes, you did, Marsh! Go look at your post!
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Bob Mueller made an excellent point in the indictments today which many
people here overlook. Some of the collusion was unwitting. As the KGB
used to say - useful idiots.
I have met John McAdams and I have talked to John McAdams in person.
I know he is not a Russian. But he has been enticed by the extreme
rightwing rhetoric of the Trump supporters and did not realize that they
are not his fellow Americans but actually are Russian agents taught to
mimic American hate groups and sow confusion.
Some of the trolls who post here hiding behind ridiculous aliases may
really just be Russian agents whose job is to use social media to sow
discord, distrust, and hatred.
The fools you see shouting "Lock her up" are not real Americans, they
are actors hired by the Russians to stir up hatred to destroy the US.
The leftists have divided America. The democratic party, according to
Joe Biden, was taken over by the Leftist Movement in 1972.
Don't you dare say that people who say "Lock her(Hillary) up" are not
American, Marsh. You President Trump haters are going around screaming at
the sky, and shouting "Lock him up", among other things. The word
False, I never said "lock him up." They are only talking about the
criminals already charged and those who pleaded guilty already. I'm sure
they will only get short sentences as long as they cooperate.
Who is "they"?
Carter Page, Steve Bannon, Paul Manafort, George Papadopoulos and
Michael Flynn, Felix Sater and Rick Gates.
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"extreme" describes the left, perfectly. Funny thing about you guys on the
violent, hate filled left, though. There are no actors. You are the real
So you know some leftists from your home state of Ohio who went out
marching with Tiki Torches and ran down protesters with their cars? Give
me their names or call the FBI and tell them. Why the cover-up?
Huh? Make sense, Marsh.
Well, we know about the extreme rightwinger from Ohio who ran over that
protestor and killed her. You have lots of them in Ohio. Remember, I still
have relatives in Ohio and I went to college there. So I know how racist a
state it it.
Citation please.
Citation? Don't you ever watch TV or listen to the news?
Man charged with murder after driving into anti-far-right protesters in
Charlottesville
James Fields, from Ohio, arrested following attack at ???Unite the Right???
gathering, and two police officers die in helicopter crash
Jason Wilson in Charlottesville, Virginia, Edward Helmore and Jon Swaine
Sun 13 Aug 2017 09.45 EDT
First published on Sat 12 Aug 2017 11.48 EDT
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One dead after car rams into anti-fascist protesters in Charlottesville
A man has been arrested and charged with murder after a car rammed into
a group of people peacefully protesting against a white supremacist
rally in Charlottesville, Virginia, killing one person and injuring 19.
Police said a 32-year-old woman had died and that they were attempting
to notify her family before releasing more details.
Col Martin Kumer, the superintendent of Albemarle-Charlottesville
regional jail, told the Guardian that 20-year-old James Fields, of Ohio,
had been arrested following the attack on Saturday.
James Fields was charged with second-degree murder.
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???He has been charged with second degree murder, three counts of
malicious wounding and failing to stop at an accident that resulted in a
death,??? Kumer said in an email.
Donald Trump condemned the ???violence on many sides???, but faced criticism
for failing to directly denounce the far-right demonstrators.
In a separate incident, two police officers died when their helicopter,
which was monitoring the far-right rally, crashed outside Charlottesville.
State police said in a statement the helicopter was ???assisting public
safety resources with the ongoing situation??? when it crashed in a wooded
area. The pilot, Lieutenant H Jay Cullen, 48, of Midlothian, Virginia,
and Trooper-pilot Berke Bates of Quinton, Virginia, died at the scene.
The deaths came at the end of a day marked by violent clashes between
far-right nationalists and people who had come to protest against their
occupation of a downtown park containing a statue of the Confederate
general Robert E Lee.
Witnesses said those hit by the car were peacefully protesting against
the white supremacist rally and footage showed the vehicle crashing into
another car, throwing people over the top of it.
Virginia governor says 'go home' to white supremacists and nazis ??? video
Charlottesville: far-right crowd with torches encircles counter-protest
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The photographer Pat Jarrett, who witnessed the incident, said: ???A gray
Dodge Charger plowed into a sedan and then into a minivan. Bodies flew.
People were terrified and screaming. Those closest to it said it was
definitely a violent attack. The driver, who people later described as a
skinny white guy with a straggly beard, reversed out of there and drove
off, the front end of his car all smashed up.???
Charlottesville mayor Mike Signer tweeted: ???I am heartbroken that a life
has been lost here. I urge all people of good will ??? go home.???
Speaking at a press conference on Saturday evening, the governor of
Virginia, Terry McAuliffe, who had earlier declared a state of
emergency, told the white supremacists: ???Go home ??? Shame on you. You
pretend you are patriots, but you are anything but a patriot.???
The mother of Fields told the Associated Press on Saturday night that
she knew her son was attending a rally in Virginia but didn???t know it
was a white supremacist rally.
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???I thought it had something to do with Trump. Trump???s not a white
supremacist,??? Samantha Bloom said, before becoming visibly upset as she
learned of the injuries and deaths at the rally ???He had an
African-American friend ???,??? she said before her voice trailed off.
Responding to the events in Charlottesville from Bedminster, New Jersey,
Trump: ???We condemn in the strongest possible terms this egregious
display of hatred, bigotry and violence on many sides, on many sides.???
But the Republican senator Marco Rubio tweeted that it was important for
Trump to describe the events as a ???terror attack by white supremacists???.
The FBI said it was opening a civil rights investigation into the
accident along with the justice department???s civil rights division and
the district attorney???s office.
The US attorney general, Jeff Sessions, said: ???The violence and deaths
in Charlottesville strike at the heart of American law and justice. When
such actions arise from racial bigotry and hatred, they betray our core
values and cannot be tolerated.
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Why do you always play dumb? We know you're not that dumb. WHat's your
game?
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Do YOU know any leftists from Ohio that went marching around then ran over
a protestor and killed he? Here is your chance to use false equivalency
and say the Leftists are as bad as the Rightwingers.
<crickets>
I answer your questions, but you won't answer mine.
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thing and aren't the least bit subtle about it. It's the left who have
I am not an actor. I played King Kasper in a musical play, but that was
more as a singer than an actor.
Where did I say you are an actor--or anyone else for that matter! You
need to read that again.
Read it again. Some idiot denied that the Russians hired actors. Maybe
the same idiot who denied that Trump hired actors to appear as a crowd
and his event to announce his candidacy.
Citation please
Oh, so you can't admit ANYTHING about Trump.
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His campaign would later admit paying $12,000, but given the "modest"
amount, the FEC is exercising discretion and dismissing a complaint he
violated reporting rules.
Citation please
I did already.
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As Donald Trump gets sworn in as the 45th president of the United States,
the Federal Election Commission has closed the chapter on an investigation
on how his presidential campaign started.
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IBID
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On June 16, 2015, Trump announced he was running for the highest office.
As first detailed in The Hollywood Reporter, the campaign hired actors to
cheer him on. That drew public attention, although it was later
overshadowed by his harsh pronouncement of Mexicans as "rapists." At the
time, Trump's then campaign manager Corey Lewandowski denied paying anyone
to attend the event and said that he had never heard of Extra Mile or
Gotham Government Relations, the two companies that THR reported were
involved in putting out a casting call for people to attend the event.
A few months later, with no disclosures related to this, the American
Democracy Legal Fund filed a complaint, alleging that Trump's campaign
violated the reporting provisions of the Federal Election Campaign Act of
1971.
Donald J. Trump for President, Inc., then admitted paying Gotham $12,000
on Oct. 8, 2015. Gotham reported to the FCC it hired Extra Mile as a
subcontractor to provide support at Trump's announcement. Still, this
doesn't settle the issue because of the allegation that Trump may have
accepted prohibited or excessive contributions from the two companies
involved with hiring the actors.
According to a FEC general counsel's report in March 2016, made public
Thursday, it was "clear" that Trump's campaign "did not pay Gotham for its
services for almost four months after the event, and did not report the
transaction for more than seven months after the event. Thus, Gotham's
apparent extension of credit to the Committee for the services rendered at
the June candidacy announcement may constitute an excessive or prohibited
contribution, and the Committee failed to report the amount it owed Gotham
as a debt."
"However," the report continued, "because of the seemingly modest amount
at issue, we recommend that the Commission exercise its prosecutorial
discretion and dismiss the allegation ..."
That's just what the FEC has done, quietly announcing its decision to
close the file on the complaint on the eve of Trump's inauguration.
Citation for all please
Learn how to click on links and use Google.
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divided America, and it's the left are the violent ones and it's the left
So, you also like to play Trump's game of false equivalency? Which violent
ones on the left? You aren't old enough to remember the Weather
Underground. Again, if you know any violent leftists it is your duty as a
citizen to call the FBI and give them the names. Or are you covering up
for them?
Why would I be "covering up" for leftists, Marsh? If I had the
opportunity to turn in leftists I wouldn't waste a second in doing so!
We all know that you are a leftist here, you don't have to tell us that.
It's written all over your constant postings and in everything you say.
Well, did you need a college education to figure that out?
Proud of being a leftist. Go figure. Why don't you move to Russia?
They'd welcome you with open arms.
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Again, I said, if YOU want to play the false equivalency game, pick up
the phone and turn in some of these leftwing wing terrorists that you
think are as dangerous as the neo-Nazis.
I'm not playing any game.
Yes, you are. Playing Trump's game of false equivalency.
"I'm not the Puppet, you're the Puppet."
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who overtook the Democratic party. "Fools"? Look into the mirror, Marsh.
FYI, the left was always dominant in the Democratic Party. That is nothing
new. Bernie tried to push it more to the left and was rejected. I am a
Bernie supporter, but the Democratic Party was not yet prepared to go that
far to the left.
Take it up with Biden.
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Take that up with Biden. He is the person who said the leftists took
over the Democratic party in 1972.
So what? Was it exactly 1972? Was it in reaction to Nixon.
Again, I reject the lie that JFK was not a leftist.
You attack JFK BECAUSE he was a leftist.
again, ask Biden. He said it!
So what
Biden did not say that the Democractic party never had Liberals before.
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That which you see defines the word.
Hey, man, that's like almost philosophical. Luckily you don't know what
it means.
I know a heck of a lot more than you think, Marsh. You've been warned.
Oh, so now you want to do Cyber Threats and McAdams allows you to make
them here?
"Threats"? LOL!!! Am I that much of a "threat" to you, Marsh by just
saying the words " I know a lot more than you think, Marsh. You've been
warned"? What, exactly is "threatening" about it?
"YOUuve been warned" is a Cyber Threat.
Prove it, Marsh. Show me where it says that the words "You've been
warned" is considered a Cyber threat.
Court decisions.
Really? I don't believe you. Post a link or tell me where I can find a "Court decision" on the words "You've been warned", Marsh. I Googled it, there's nothing there, so it's up to you to provide me with proof of your claim that the words "You've been warned" are a cyber threat" according to a court decision!
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Man Charged with Harassment Shows that It Can Come in Many Forms??? but
Has he Harassed?
Posted by Steve Karimi | Dec 05, 2014 | 0 Comments
Derek Grube has been charged with misdemeanor and felony harassment after
he posted an ad on Craigslist threatening students at the University of
Washington.
The post, titled ???UW ??? 32???, begins ???Dear UW Kids, Contrary to what
u may believe you are not better than anyone else u are not worth more
than anyone else and u certainly aren't above the rules just cuz u attend
UW and others don't.???
It goes on to criticize the behavior of students who make disruptions at
University libraries, and then threatens those that continue to cause
disruptions there. The post continues, warning, ???I swear to god if this
(expletive) doesn't stop I'm just gonna start shooting you worthless
(expletive) and do the world a huge favor. You've been warned.???
University Police, with the help of craigslist itself, discovered that the
post was made by an iPad that accessed the Internet from the school's
School of Social Work building. They found Grube in the building using an
iPad, where he allegedly admitted making the posting. Along with his iPad,
police also confiscated two hard drives and a cell phone from him.
According to his charging documents, Grube has only been in Seattle for a
few weeks. He is being held in King County Jail and his bail has been set
at $75,000.
This story brings to mind two separate avenues of analysis. First, it
shows that harassment can come in many forms. Harassment can be done in
person, over the phone, or even over the internet. It can come via the
spoken word, a recorded voice, a written word, picture, or video.
Regardless of the method of communication, harassment is harassment in
Washington.
The second avenue is perhaps a bit more relevant and makes this case
interesting. Under Washington law, harassment occurs when one knowingly
threatens an immediate injury??? and those threats create a reasonable
fear in the person threatened that they will be carried out.
A quality defense attorney will look at the facts presented here and
legitimately question whether Grube's post really fulfills the
requirements for a harassment conviction in Washington. The statute
requires that the threat put a reasonable fear in the person threatened.
Here, it is unclear whether the person that reported the post to UW police
was at the school or is even associated with it. Craigslist's Seattle
page, after all, can be viewed from anywhere on the planet.
This case is another example of the benefits of having an experienced
criminal attorney. Grube listed his address as the University Street
Ministry, which serves homeless youth and young adults in and around the
University District. It is likely that he is indigent and without private
counsel.
An experienced attorney, such as one from the Law Office of Steve Karimi,
will ensure that before you are held with excessive bail, the charges
against you meet your conduct. If you have been charged with a crime in
the Greater Seattle area, give him a call. He will ensure your rights are
protected.
Oh no you don't, Marsh! POST THE LINK to what you copied and pasted
above. I don't trust you any further than I can fly! Post the link to
this!
So you can't Google it yourself? IF I just posted the link without quoting
it you would not have bothered reading it. Are you trying to dispute it.
"Really? I don't believe you. Post a link or tell me where I can find
a "Court decision" on the words "You've been warned", Marsh. I Googled it,
there's nothing there, so it's up to you to provide me with proof of your
claim that the words "You've been warned" are a cyber threat" according to
a court decision!" Posting copied and pasted drivel without posting the
link isn't the way to do things, yet you try to pull that crap.
You either post the link, or keep quiet, Marsh. I googled and there is
nothing about any court decision calling the words "You've been warned" a
"cyber threat". Stop insulting people by expecting us to take you at your
word. I don't trust you any more than I could pick you up and throw you.
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It would save us all some time if you would flag your messages like this
at the top with NO CONTENT: JUST MINDLSS ATTACKS.
It would save us all a lot of grief if you would post links and/or
citations to back up the things that you say!!!
I do so all the time and you claim you don't understand them and McAdams
claims they are too long. Worst one was the one that was so easy that
even YOU could have Googled it, but instead you just insinuated that I
made up the whole article. I don't see other posters doing that. Only you.
What's wrong with you? You don't know how to use Google?
Maybe you could go back to 6th grade and they'd teach you.
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"Mindlss(sic) attacks". That's cute, Marsh.
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By the way...you claim that trolls are people who only use aliases, in
No, silly. I just said that some Commodore BBS only used aliases. Learn
ENglish. Go back and finish grammar school.
NOPE! Go back and read your post! You said exactly what I told you.
Learn English. Go back to grammar school.
Oh no you don't, Marsh. POST THE LINK to what you copied and pasted.
I don't trust you any further than I can fly! Post the link
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another thread. Nothing could be further from the truth. Try Googling it
once. You will see that a troll can be anyone, just like you. Here's how
Webster Dictionary defines the word. Note that it says *NOTHING* limiting
Well, gee if you look at the wrong page you can see that a Troll is a
mythological creature, maybe even see the movie. We were talking about
Internet trolls. Stay on topic.
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https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/troll
a : to antagonize (others) online by deliberately posting inflammatory, irrelevant, or offensive comments or other disruptive content
??? trolls engage in the most outrageous and offensive behaviors possible???all the better to troll you with. ???Whitney Phillips
b : to act as a troll (see 3troll 2) on (a forum, site, etc.)
??? is also notorious, for trolling message boards on the Internet, posting offensive material he himself has written and then suing anyone who responds in agreement. ???Mark Hemingway
c : to harass, criticize, or antagonize (someone) especially by provocatively disparaging or mocking public statements, postings, or acts.
Hmmmmm...I don't see anything about a troll being limited to someone who
only uses aliases. You made that up.
And I never said that. False charge.
Yes, you did, Marsh! Go look at your post!
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Bob Mueller made an excellent point in the indictments today which many
people here overlook. Some of the collusion was unwitting. As the KGB
used to say - useful idiots.
I have met John McAdams and I have talked to John McAdams in person.
I know he is not a Russian. But he has been enticed by the extreme
rightwing rhetoric of the Trump supporters and did not realize that they
are not his fellow Americans but actually are Russian agents taught to
mimic American hate groups and sow confusion.
Some of the trolls who post here hiding behind ridiculous aliases may
really just be Russian agents whose job is to use social media to sow
discord, distrust, and hatred.
The fools you see shouting "Lock her up" are not real Americans, they
are actors hired by the Russians to stir up hatred to destroy the US.
The leftists have divided America. The democratic party, according to
Joe Biden, was taken over by the Leftist Movement in 1972.
Don't you dare say that people who say "Lock her(Hillary) up" are not
American, Marsh. You President Trump haters are going around screaming at
the sky, and shouting "Lock him up", among other things. The word
False, I never said "lock him up." They are only talking about the
criminals already charged and those who pleaded guilty already. I'm sure
they will only get short sentences as long as they cooperate.
Who is "they"?
Carter Page, Steve Bannon, Paul Manafort, George Papadopoulos and
Michael Flynn, Felix Sater and Rick Gates.
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"extreme" describes the left, perfectly. Funny thing about you guys on the
violent, hate filled left, though. There are no actors. You are the real
So you know some leftists from your home state of Ohio who went out
marching with Tiki Torches and ran down protesters with their cars? Give
me their names or call the FBI and tell them. Why the cover-up?
Huh? Make sense, Marsh.
Well, we know about the extreme rightwinger from Ohio who ran over that
protestor and killed her. You have lots of them in Ohio. Remember, I still
have relatives in Ohio and I went to college there. So I know how racist a
state it it.
Citation please.
Citation? Don't you ever watch TV or listen to the news?
Man charged with murder after driving into anti-far-right protesters in
Charlottesville
James Fields, from Ohio, arrested following attack at ???Unite the Right???
gathering, and two police officers die in helicopter crash
Jason Wilson in Charlottesville, Virginia, Edward Helmore and Jon Swaine
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One dead after car rams into anti-fascist protesters in Charlottesville
A man has been arrested and charged with murder after a car rammed into
a group of people peacefully protesting against a white supremacist
rally in Charlottesville, Virginia, killing one person and injuring 19.
Police said a 32-year-old woman had died and that they were attempting
to notify her family before releasing more details.
Col Martin Kumer, the superintendent of Albemarle-Charlottesville
regional jail, told the Guardian that 20-year-old James Fields, of Ohio,
had been arrested following the attack on Saturday.
James Fields was charged with second-degree murder.
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???He has been charged with second degree murder, three counts of
malicious wounding and failing to stop at an accident that resulted in a
death,??? Kumer said in an email.
Donald Trump condemned the ???violence on many sides???, but faced criticism
for failing to directly denounce the far-right demonstrators.
In a separate incident, two police officers died when their helicopter,
which was monitoring the far-right rally, crashed outside Charlottesville.
State police said in a statement the helicopter was ???assisting public
safety resources with the ongoing situation??? when it crashed in a wooded
area. The pilot, Lieutenant H Jay Cullen, 48, of Midlothian, Virginia,
and Trooper-pilot Berke Bates of Quinton, Virginia, died at the scene.
The deaths came at the end of a day marked by violent clashes between
far-right nationalists and people who had come to protest against their
occupation of a downtown park containing a statue of the Confederate
general Robert E Lee.
Witnesses said those hit by the car were peacefully protesting against
the white supremacist rally and footage showed the vehicle crashing into
another car, throwing people over the top of it.
Virginia governor says 'go home' to white supremacists and nazis ??? video
Charlottesville: far-right crowd with torches encircles counter-protest
group
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The photographer Pat Jarrett, who witnessed the incident, said: ???A gray
Dodge Charger plowed into a sedan and then into a minivan. Bodies flew.
People were terrified and screaming. Those closest to it said it was
definitely a violent attack. The driver, who people later described as a
skinny white guy with a straggly beard, reversed out of there and drove
off, the front end of his car all smashed up.???
Charlottesville mayor Mike Signer tweeted: ???I am heartbroken that a life
has been lost here. I urge all people of good will ??? go home.???
Speaking at a press conference on Saturday evening, the governor of
Virginia, Terry McAuliffe, who had earlier declared a state of
emergency, told the white supremacists: ???Go home ??? Shame on you. You
pretend you are patriots, but you are anything but a patriot.???
The mother of Fields told the Associated Press on Saturday night that
she knew her son was attending a rally in Virginia but didn???t know it
was a white supremacist rally.
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???I thought it had something to do with Trump. Trump???s not a white
supremacist,??? Samantha Bloom said, before becoming visibly upset as she
learned of the injuries and deaths at the rally ???He had an
African-American friend ???,??? she said before her voice trailed off.
Responding to the events in Charlottesville from Bedminster, New Jersey,
Trump: ???We condemn in the strongest possible terms this egregious
display of hatred, bigotry and violence on many sides, on many sides.???
But the Republican senator Marco Rubio tweeted that it was important for
Trump to describe the events as a ???terror attack by white supremacists???.
The FBI said it was opening a civil rights investigation into the
accident along with the justice department???s civil rights division and
the district attorney???s office.
The US attorney general, Jeff Sessions, said: ???The violence and deaths
in Charlottesville strike at the heart of American law and justice. When
such actions arise from racial bigotry and hatred, they betray our core
values and cannot be tolerated.
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Why do you always play dumb? We know you're not that dumb. WHat's your
game?
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Do YOU know any leftists from Ohio that went marching around then ran over
a protestor and killed he? Here is your chance to use false equivalency
and say the Leftists are as bad as the Rightwingers.
<crickets>
I answer your questions, but you won't answer mine.
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thing and aren't the least bit subtle about it. It's the left who have
I am not an actor. I played King Kasper in a musical play, but that was
more as a singer than an actor.
Where did I say you are an actor--or anyone else for that matter! You
need to read that again.
Read it again. Some idiot denied that the Russians hired actors. Maybe
the same idiot who denied that Trump hired actors to appear as a crowd
and his event to announce his candidacy.
Citation please
Oh, so you can't admit ANYTHING about Trump.
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His campaign would later admit paying $12,000, but given the "modest"
amount, the FEC is exercising discretion and dismissing a complaint he
violated reporting rules.
Citation please
I did already.
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As Donald Trump gets sworn in as the 45th president of the United States,
the Federal Election Commission has closed the chapter on an investigation
on how his presidential campaign started.
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On June 16, 2015, Trump announced he was running for the highest office.
As first detailed in The Hollywood Reporter, the campaign hired actors to
cheer him on. That drew public attention, although it was later
overshadowed by his harsh pronouncement of Mexicans as "rapists." At the
time, Trump's then campaign manager Corey Lewandowski denied paying anyone
to attend the event and said that he had never heard of Extra Mile or
Gotham Government Relations, the two companies that THR reported were
involved in putting out a casting call for people to attend the event.
A few months later, with no disclosures related to this, the American
Democracy Legal Fund filed a complaint, alleging that Trump's campaign
violated the reporting provisions of the Federal Election Campaign Act of
1971.
Donald J. Trump for President, Inc., then admitted paying Gotham $12,000
on Oct. 8, 2015. Gotham reported to the FCC it hired Extra Mile as a
subcontractor to provide support at Trump's announcement. Still, this
doesn't settle the issue because of the allegation that Trump may have
accepted prohibited or excessive contributions from the two companies
involved with hiring the actors.
According to a FEC general counsel's report in March 2016, made public
Thursday, it was "clear" that Trump's campaign "did not pay Gotham for its
services for almost four months after the event, and did not report the
transaction for more than seven months after the event. Thus, Gotham's
apparent extension of credit to the Committee for the services rendered at
the June candidacy announcement may constitute an excessive or prohibited
contribution, and the Committee failed to report the amount it owed Gotham
as a debt."
"However," the report continued, "because of the seemingly modest amount
at issue, we recommend that the Commission exercise its prosecutorial
discretion and dismiss the allegation ..."
That's just what the FEC has done, quietly announcing its decision to
close the file on the complaint on the eve of Trump's inauguration.
Citation for all please
Learn how to click on links and use Google.
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divided America, and it's the left are the violent ones and it's the left
So, you also like to play Trump's game of false equivalency? Which violent
ones on the left? You aren't old enough to remember the Weather
Underground. Again, if you know any violent leftists it is your duty as a
citizen to call the FBI and give them the names. Or are you covering up
for them?
Why would I be "covering up" for leftists, Marsh? If I had the
opportunity to turn in leftists I wouldn't waste a second in doing so!
We all know that you are a leftist here, you don't have to tell us that.
It's written all over your constant postings and in everything you say.
Well, did you need a college education to figure that out?
Proud of being a leftist. Go figure. Why don't you move to Russia?
They'd welcome you with open arms.
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Again, I said, if YOU want to play the false equivalency game, pick up
the phone and turn in some of these leftwing wing terrorists that you
think are as dangerous as the neo-Nazis.
I'm not playing any game.
Yes, you are. Playing Trump's game of false equivalency.
"I'm not the Puppet, you're the Puppet."
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who overtook the Democratic party. "Fools"? Look into the mirror, Marsh.
FYI, the left was always dominant in the Democratic Party. That is nothing
new. Bernie tried to push it more to the left and was rejected. I am a
Bernie supporter, but the Democratic Party was not yet prepared to go that
far to the left.
Take it up with Biden.
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Take that up with Biden. He is the person who said the leftists took
over the Democratic party in 1972.
So what? Was it exactly 1972? Was it in reaction to Nixon.
Again, I reject the lie that JFK was not a leftist.
You attack JFK BECAUSE he was a leftist.
again, ask Biden. He said it!
So what
Biden did not say that the Democractic party never had Liberals before.
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That which you see defines the word.
Hey, man, that's like almost philosophical. Luckily you don't know what
it means.
I know a heck of a lot more than you think, Marsh. You've been warned.
Oh, so now you want to do Cyber Threats and McAdams allows you to make
them here?
"Threats"? LOL!!! Am I that much of a "threat" to you, Marsh by just
saying the words " I know a lot more than you think, Marsh. You've been
warned"? What, exactly is "threatening" about it?
"YOUuve been warned" is a Cyber Threat.
Prove it, Marsh. Show me where it says that the words "You've been
warned" is considered a Cyber threat.
Court decisions.
Really? I don't believe you. Post a link or tell me where I can find a "Court decision" on the words "You've been warned", Marsh. I Googled it, there's nothing there, so it's up to you to provide me with proof of your claim that the words "You've been warned" are a cyber threat" according to a court decision!
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Man Charged with Harassment Shows that It Can Come in Many Forms??? but
Has he Harassed?
Posted by Steve Karimi | Dec 05, 2014 | 0 Comments
Derek Grube has been charged with misdemeanor and felony harassment after
he posted an ad on Craigslist threatening students at the University of
Washington.
The post, titled ???UW ??? 32???, begins ???Dear UW Kids, Contrary to what
u may believe you are not better than anyone else u are not worth more
than anyone else and u certainly aren't above the rules just cuz u attend
UW and others don't.???
It goes on to criticize the behavior of students who make disruptions at
University libraries, and then threatens those that continue to cause
disruptions there. The post continues, warning, ???I swear to god if this
(expletive) doesn't stop I'm just gonna start shooting you worthless
(expletive) and do the world a huge favor. You've been warned.???
University Police, with the help of craigslist itself, discovered that the
post was made by an iPad that accessed the Internet from the school's
School of Social Work building. They found Grube in the building using an
iPad, where he allegedly admitted making the posting. Along with his iPad,
police also confiscated two hard drives and a cell phone from him.
According to his charging documents, Grube has only been in Seattle for a
few weeks. He is being held in King County Jail and his bail has been set
at $75,000.
This story brings to mind two separate avenues of analysis. First, it
shows that harassment can come in many forms. Harassment can be done in
person, over the phone, or even over the internet. It can come via the
spoken word, a recorded voice, a written word, picture, or video.
Regardless of the method of communication, harassment is harassment in
Washington.
The second avenue is perhaps a bit more relevant and makes this case
interesting. Under Washington law, harassment occurs when one knowingly
threatens an immediate injury??? and those threats create a reasonable
fear in the person threatened that they will be carried out.
A quality defense attorney will look at the facts presented here and
legitimately question whether Grube's post really fulfills the
requirements for a harassment conviction in Washington. The statute
requires that the threat put a reasonable fear in the person threatened.
Here, it is unclear whether the person that reported the post to UW police
was at the school or is even associated with it. Craigslist's Seattle
page, after all, can be viewed from anywhere on the planet.
This case is another example of the benefits of having an experienced
criminal attorney. Grube listed his address as the University Street
Ministry, which serves homeless youth and young adults in and around the
University District. It is likely that he is indigent and without private
counsel.
An experienced attorney, such as one from the Law Office of Steve Karimi,
will ensure that before you are held with excessive bail, the charges
against you meet your conduct. If you have been charged with a crime in
the Greater Seattle area, give him a call. He will ensure your rights are
protected.
Oh no you don't, Marsh! POST THE LINK to what you copied and pasted
above. I don't trust you any further than I can fly! Post the link to
this!
So you can't Google it yourself? IF I just posted the link without quoting
it you would not have bothered reading it. Are you trying to dispute it.
"Really? I don't believe you. Post a link or tell me where I can find
a "Court decision" on the words "You've been warned", Marsh. I Googled it,
there's nothing there, so it's up to you to provide me with proof of your
claim that the words "You've been warned" are a cyber threat" according to
a court decision!" Posting copied and pasted drivel without posting the
link isn't the way to do things, yet you try to pull that crap.
You either post the link, or keep quiet, Marsh. I googled and there is
nothing about any court decision calling the words "You've been warned" a
"cyber threat". Stop insulting people by expecting us to take you at your
word. I don't trust you any more than I could pick you up and throw you.
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It would save us all some time if you would flag your messages like this
at the top with NO CONTENT: JUST MINDLSS ATTACKS.
It would save us all a lot of grief if you would post links and/or
citations to back up the things that you say!!!
I do so all the time and you claim you don't understand them and McAdams
claims they are too long. Worst one was the one that was so easy that
even YOU could have Googled it, but instead you just insinuated that I
made up the whole article. I don't see other posters doing that. Only you.
What's wrong with you? You don't know how to use Google?
Maybe you could go back to 6th grade and they'd teach you.
No you don't, and I have NEVER calimed that " I don't understand them".
Where do you come up with this crap, Marsh? That's what this entire
discussion is about. You posted something that you copied and pasted from
somewhere (or, you typed it up yourself) without as much as providing the
link. You are the only one who does that! WHY?! Oh wait, I know why...
Like i said, Marsh, I don'trust you any more than I could pick you up and
throw you. I use Google constantly. Why can't you? Why won't you just
post the link to that garbage you posted that didn't prove a thing you
said? How about you go back to school and have someone teach you how to
be civil and courteous instead of a grumpy old man!
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"Mindlss(sic) attacks". That's cute, Marsh.
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By the way...you claim that trolls are people who only use aliases, in
No, silly. I just said that some Commodore BBS only used aliases. Learn
ENglish. Go back and finish grammar school.
NOPE! Go back and read your post! You said exactly what I told you.
Learn English. Go back to grammar school.
Oh no you don't, Marsh. POST THE LINK to what you copied and pasted.
I don't trust you any further than I can fly! Post the link
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another thread. Nothing could be further from the truth. Try Googling it
once. You will see that a troll can be anyone, just like you. Here's how
Webster Dictionary defines the word. Note that it says *NOTHING* limiting
Well, gee if you look at the wrong page you can see that a Troll is a
mythological creature, maybe even see the movie. We were talking about
Internet trolls. Stay on topic.
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https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/troll
a : to antagonize (others) online by deliberately posting inflammatory, irrelevant, or offensive comments or other disruptive content
??? trolls engage in the most outrageous and offensive behaviors possible???all the better to troll you with. ???Whitney Phillips
b : to act as a troll (see 3troll 2) on (a forum, site, etc.)
??? is also notorious, for trolling message boards on the Internet, posting offensive material he himself has written and then suing anyone who responds in agreement. ???Mark Hemingway
c : to harass, criticize, or antagonize (someone) especially by provocatively disparaging or mocking public statements, postings, or acts.
Hmmmmm...I don't see anything about a troll being limited to someone who
only uses aliases. You made that up.
And I never said that. False charge.
Yes, you did, Marsh! Go look at your post!
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Bob Mueller made an excellent point in the indictments today which many
people here overlook. Some of the collusion was unwitting. As the KGB
used to say - useful idiots.
I have met John McAdams and I have talked to John McAdams in person.
I know he is not a Russian. But he has been enticed by the extreme
rightwing rhetoric of the Trump supporters and did not realize that they
are not his fellow Americans but actually are Russian agents taught to
mimic American hate groups and sow confusion.
Some of the trolls who post here hiding behind ridiculous aliases may
really just be Russian agents whose job is to use social media to sow
discord, distrust, and hatred.
The fools you see shouting "Lock her up" are not real Americans, they
are actors hired by the Russians to stir up hatred to destroy the US.
The leftists have divided America. The democratic party, according to
Joe Biden, was taken over by the Leftist Movement in 1972.
Don't you dare say that people who say "Lock her(Hillary) up" are not
American, Marsh. You President Trump haters are going around screaming at
the sky, and shouting "Lock him up", among other things. The word
False, I never said "lock him up." They are only talking about the
criminals already charged and those who pleaded guilty already. I'm sure
they will only get short sentences as long as they cooperate.
Who is "they"?
Carter Page, Steve Bannon, Paul Manafort, George Papadopoulos and
Michael Flynn, Felix Sater and Rick Gates.
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"extreme" describes the left, perfectly. Funny thing about you guys on the
violent, hate filled left, though. There are no actors. You are the real
So you know some leftists from your home state of Ohio who went out
marching with Tiki Torches and ran down protesters with their cars? Give
me their names or call the FBI and tell them. Why the cover-up?
Huh? Make sense, Marsh.
Well, we know about the extreme rightwinger from Ohio who ran over that
protestor and killed her. You have lots of them in Ohio. Remember, I still
have relatives in Ohio and I went to college there. So I know how racist a
state it it.
Citation please.
Citation? Don't you ever watch TV or listen to the news?
Man charged with murder after driving into anti-far-right protesters in
Charlottesville
James Fields, from Ohio, arrested following attack at ???Unite the Right???
gathering, and two police officers die in helicopter crash
Jason Wilson in Charlottesville, Virginia, Edward Helmore and Jon Swaine
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One dead after car rams into anti-fascist protesters in Charlottesville
A man has been arrested and charged with murder after a car rammed into
a group of people peacefully protesting against a white supremacist
rally in Charlottesville, Virginia, killing one person and injuring 19.
Police said a 32-year-old woman had died and that they were attempting
to notify her family before releasing more details.
Col Martin Kumer, the superintendent of Albemarle-Charlottesville
regional jail, told the Guardian that 20-year-old James Fields, of Ohio,
had been arrested following the attack on Saturday.
James Fields was charged with second-degree murder.
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???He has been charged with second degree murder, three counts of
malicious wounding and failing to stop at an accident that resulted in a
death,??? Kumer said in an email.
Donald Trump condemned the ???violence on many sides???, but faced criticism
for failing to directly denounce the far-right demonstrators.
In a separate incident, two police officers died when their helicopter,
which was monitoring the far-right rally, crashed outside Charlottesville.
State police said in a statement the helicopter was ???assisting public
safety resources with the ongoing situation??? when it crashed in a wooded
area. The pilot, Lieutenant H Jay Cullen, 48, of Midlothian, Virginia,
and Trooper-pilot Berke Bates of Quinton, Virginia, died at the scene.
The deaths came at the end of a day marked by violent clashes between
far-right nationalists and people who had come to protest against their
occupation of a downtown park containing a statue of the Confederate
general Robert E Lee.
Witnesses said those hit by the car were peacefully protesting against
the white supremacist rally and footage showed the vehicle crashing into
another car, throwing people over the top of it.
Virginia governor says 'go home' to white supremacists and nazis ??? video
Charlottesville: far-right crowd with torches encircles counter-protest
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The photographer Pat Jarrett, who witnessed the incident, said: ???A gray
Dodge Charger plowed into a sedan and then into a minivan. Bodies flew.
People were terrified and screaming. Those closest to it said it was
definitely a violent attack. The driver, who people later described as a
skinny white guy with a straggly beard, reversed out of there and drove
off, the front end of his car all smashed up.???
Charlottesville mayor Mike Signer tweeted: ???I am heartbroken that a life
has been lost here. I urge all people of good will ??? go home.???
Speaking at a press conference on Saturday evening, the governor of
Virginia, Terry McAuliffe, who had earlier declared a state of
emergency, told the white supremacists: ???Go home ??? Shame on you. You
pretend you are patriots, but you are anything but a patriot.???
The mother of Fields told the Associated Press on Saturday night that
she knew her son was attending a rally in Virginia but didn???t know it
was a white supremacist rally.
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???I thought it had something to do with Trump. Trump???s not a white
supremacist,??? Samantha Bloom said, before becoming visibly upset as she
learned of the injuries and deaths at the rally ???He had an
African-American friend ???,??? she said before her voice trailed off.
Responding to the events in Charlottesville from Bedminster, New Jersey,
Trump: ???We condemn in the strongest possible terms this egregious
display of hatred, bigotry and violence on many sides, on many sides.???
But the Republican senator Marco Rubio tweeted that it was important for
Trump to describe the events as a ???terror attack by white supremacists???.
The FBI said it was opening a civil rights investigation into the
accident along with the justice department???s civil rights division and
the district attorney???s office.
The US attorney general, Jeff Sessions, said: ???The violence and deaths
in Charlottesville strike at the heart of American law and justice. When
such actions arise from racial bigotry and hatred, they betray our core
values and cannot be tolerated.
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Why do you always play dumb? We know you're not that dumb. WHat's your
game?
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Do YOU know any leftists from Ohio that went marching around then ran over
a protestor and killed he? Here is your chance to use false equivalency
and say the Leftists are as bad as the Rightwingers.
<crickets>
I answer your questions, but you won't answer mine.
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thing and aren't the least bit subtle about it. It's the left who have
I am not an actor. I played King Kasper in a musical play, but that was
more as a singer than an actor.
Where did I say you are an actor--or anyone else for that matter! You
need to read that again.
Read it again. Some idiot denied that the Russians hired actors. Maybe
the same idiot who denied that Trump hired actors to appear as a crowd
and his event to announce his candidacy.
Citation please
Oh, so you can't admit ANYTHING about Trump.
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His campaign would later admit paying $12,000, but given the "modest"
amount, the FEC is exercising discretion and dismissing a complaint he
violated reporting rules.
Citation please
I did already.
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As Donald Trump gets sworn in as the 45th president of the United States,
the Federal Election Commission has closed the chapter on an investigation
on how his presidential campaign started.
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On June 16, 2015, Trump announced he was running for the highest office.
As first detailed in The Hollywood Reporter, the campaign hired actors to
cheer him on. That drew public attention, although it was later
overshadowed by his harsh pronouncement of Mexicans as "rapists." At the
time, Trump's then campaign manager Corey Lewandowski denied paying anyone
to attend the event and said that he had never heard of Extra Mile or
Gotham Government Relations, the two companies that THR reported were
involved in putting out a casting call for people to attend the event.
A few months later, with no disclosures related to this, the American
Democracy Legal Fund filed a complaint, alleging that Trump's campaign
violated the reporting provisions of the Federal Election Campaign Act of
1971.
Donald J. Trump for President, Inc., then admitted paying Gotham $12,000
on Oct. 8, 2015. Gotham reported to the FCC it hired Extra Mile as a
subcontractor to provide support at Trump's announcement. Still, this
doesn't settle the issue because of the allegation that Trump may have
accepted prohibited or excessive contributions from the two companies
involved with hiring the actors.
According to a FEC general counsel's report in March 2016, made public
Thursday, it was "clear" that Trump's campaign "did not pay Gotham for its
services for almost four months after the event, and did not report the
transaction for more than seven months after the event. Thus, Gotham's
apparent extension of credit to the Committee for the services rendered at
the June candidacy announcement may constitute an excessive or prohibited
contribution, and the Committee failed to report the amount it owed Gotham
as a debt."
"However," the report continued, "because of the seemingly modest amount
at issue, we recommend that the Commission exercise its prosecutorial
discretion and dismiss the allegation ..."
That's just what the FEC has done, quietly announcing its decision to
close the file on the complaint on the eve of Trump's inauguration.
Citation for all please
Learn how to click on links and use Google.
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divided America, and it's the left are the violent ones and it's the left
So, you also like to play Trump's game of false equivalency? Which violent
ones on the left? You aren't old enough to remember the Weather
Underground. Again, if you know any violent leftists it is your duty as a
citizen to call the FBI and give them the names. Or are you covering up
for them?
Why would I be "covering up" for leftists, Marsh? If I had the
opportunity to turn in leftists I wouldn't waste a second in doing so!
We all know that you are a leftist here, you don't have to tell us that.
It's written all over your constant postings and in everything you say.
Well, did you need a college education to figure that out?
Proud of being a leftist. Go figure. Why don't you move to Russia?
They'd welcome you with open arms.
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Again, I said, if YOU want to play the false equivalency game, pick up
the phone and turn in some of these leftwing wing terrorists that you
think are as dangerous as the neo-Nazis.
I'm not playing any game.
Yes, you are. Playing Trump's game of false equivalency.
"I'm not the Puppet, you're the Puppet."
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who overtook the Democratic party. "Fools"? Look into the mirror, Marsh.
FYI, the left was always dominant in the Democratic Party. That is nothing
new. Bernie tried to push it more to the left and was rejected. I am a
Bernie supporter, but the Democratic Party was not yet prepared to go that
far to the left.
Take it up with Biden.
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Take that up with Biden. He is the person who said the leftists took
over the Democratic party in 1972.
So what? Was it exactly 1972? Was it in reaction to Nixon.
Again, I reject the lie that JFK was not a leftist.
You attack JFK BECAUSE he was a leftist.
again, ask Biden. He said it!
So what
Biden did not say that the Democractic party never had Liberals before.
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That which you see defines the word.
Hey, man, that's like almost philosophical. Luckily you don't know what
it means.
I know a heck of a lot more than you think, Marsh. You've been warned.
Oh, so now you want to do Cyber Threats and McAdams allows you to make
them here?
"Threats"? LOL!!! Am I that much of a "threat" to you, Marsh by just
saying the words " I know a lot more than you think, Marsh. You've been
warned"? What, exactly is "threatening" about it?
"YOUuve been warned" is a Cyber Threat.
Prove it, Marsh. Show me where it says that the words "You've been
warned" is considered a Cyber threat.
Court decisions.
Really? I don't believe you. Post a link or tell me where I can find a "Court decision" on the words "You've been warned", Marsh. I Googled it, there's nothing there, so it's up to you to provide me with proof of your claim that the words "You've been warned" are a cyber threat" according to a court decision!
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Man Charged with Harassment Shows that It Can Come in Many Forms??? but
Has he Harassed?
Posted by Steve Karimi | Dec 05, 2014 | 0 Comments
Derek Grube has been charged with misdemeanor and felony harassment after
he posted an ad on Craigslist threatening students at the University of
Washington.
The post, titled ???UW ??? 32???, begins ???Dear UW Kids, Contrary to what
u may believe you are not better than anyone else u are not worth more
than anyone else and u certainly aren't above the rules just cuz u attend
UW and others don't.???
It goes on to criticize the behavior of students who make disruptions at
University libraries, and then threatens those that continue to cause
disruptions there. The post continues, warning, ???I swear to god if this
(expletive) doesn't stop I'm just gonna start shooting you worthless
(expletive) and do the world a huge favor. You've been warned.???
University Police, with the help of craigslist itself, discovered that the
post was made by an iPad that accessed the Internet from the school's
School of Social Work building. They found Grube in the building using an
iPad, where he allegedly admitted making the posting. Along with his iPad,
police also confiscated two hard drives and a cell phone from him.
According to his charging documents, Grube has only been in Seattle for a
few weeks. He is being held in King County Jail and his bail has been set
at $75,000.
This story brings to mind two separate avenues of analysis. First, it
shows that harassment can come in many forms. Harassment can be done in
person, over the phone, or even over the internet. It can come via the
spoken word, a recorded voice, a written word, picture, or video.
Regardless of the method of communication, harassment is harassment in
Washington.
The second avenue is perhaps a bit more relevant and makes this case
interesting. Under Washington law, harassment occurs when one knowingly
threatens an immediate injury??? and those threats create a reasonable
fear in the person threatened that they will be carried out.
A quality defense attorney will look at the facts presented here and
legitimately question whether Grube's post really fulfills the
requirements for a harassment conviction in Washington. The statute
requires that the threat put a reasonable fear in the person threatened.
Here, it is unclear whether the person that reported the post to UW police
was at the school or is even associated with it. Craigslist's Seattle
page, after all, can be viewed from anywhere on the planet.
This case is another example of the benefits of having an experienced
criminal attorney. Grube listed his address as the University Street
Ministry, which serves homeless youth and young adults in and around the
University District. It is likely that he is indigent and without private
counsel.
An experienced attorney, such as one from the Law Office of Steve Karimi,
will ensure that before you are held with excessive bail, the charges
against you meet your conduct. If you have been charged with a crime in
the Greater Seattle area, give him a call. He will ensure your rights are
protected.
Oh no you don't, Marsh! POST THE LINK to what you copied and pasted
above. I don't trust you any further than I can fly! Post the link to
this!
So you can't Google it yourself? IF I just posted the link without quoting
it you would not have bothered reading it. Are you trying to dispute it.
"Really? I don't believe you. Post a link or tell me where I can find
a "Court decision" on the words "You've been warned", Marsh. I Googled it,
there's nothing there, so it's up to you to provide me with proof of your
claim that the words "You've been warned" are a cyber threat" according to
a court decision!" Posting copied and pasted drivel without posting the
link isn't the way to do things, yet you try to pull that crap.
You either post the link, or keep quiet, Marsh. I googled and there is
nothing about any court decision calling the words "You've been warned" a
"cyber threat". Stop insulting people by expecting us to take you at your
word. I don't trust you any more than I could pick you up and throw you.
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It would save us all some time if you would flag your messages like this
at the top with NO CONTENT: JUST MINDLSS ATTACKS.
It would save us all a lot of grief if you would post links and/or
citations to back up the things that you say!!!
I do so all the time and you claim you don't understand them and McAdams
claims they are too long. Worst one was the one that was so easy that
even YOU could have Googled it, but instead you just insinuated that I
made up the whole article. I don't see other posters doing that. Only you.
What's wrong with you? You don't know how to use Google?
Maybe you could go back to 6th grade and they'd teach you.
No you don't, and I have NEVER calimed that " I don't understand them".
Where do you come up with this crap, Marsh? That's what this entire
discussion is about. You posted something that you copied and pasted from
somewhere (or, you typed it up yourself) without as much as providing the
link. You are the only one who does that! WHY?! Oh wait, I know why...
So, Steve, you really want to use an alis to self-identify as a Hillbilly
and you think people can't figure out who you are? And you want to
publicly admit that you indeed are accusing me of just making up a story
rather than cutting and pasting an article? And confirm that you don't
know how to use Google? OK, then use Bing or find some kindergartner to
teach you how to do an Internet search. There can't be too many lawyers
with the name Karimi. The header of the article says:

Posted by Steve Karimi | Dec 05, 2014

Just search for Steve Karimi Derek Grube

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Like i said, Marsh, I don'trust you any more than I could pick you up and
throw you. I use Google constantly. Why can't you? Why won't you just
You don't know how to use Google. Try Bing instead. But don't be a Yahoo.
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post the link to that garbage you posted that didn't prove a thing you
said? How about you go back to school and have someone teach you how to
be civil and courteous instead of a grumpy old man!
How can anyone be civil an unruly newsgroup like this? Try being sane
and you might be treated civilly.
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"Mindlss(sic) attacks". That's cute, Marsh.
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By the way...you claim that trolls are people who only use aliases, in
No, silly. I just said that some Commodore BBS only used aliases. Learn
ENglish. Go back and finish grammar school.
NOPE! Go back and read your post! You said exactly what I told you.
Learn English. Go back to grammar school.
Oh no you don't, Marsh. POST THE LINK to what you copied and pasted.
I don't trust you any further than I can fly! Post the link
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another thread. Nothing could be further from the truth. Try Googling it
once. You will see that a troll can be anyone, just like you. Here's how
Webster Dictionary defines the word. Note that it says *NOTHING* limiting
Well, gee if you look at the wrong page you can see that a Troll is a
mythological creature, maybe even see the movie. We were talking about
Internet trolls. Stay on topic.
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https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/troll
a : to antagonize (others) online by deliberately posting inflammatory, irrelevant, or offensive comments or other disruptive content
??? trolls engage in the most outrageous and offensive behaviors possible???all the better to troll you with. ???Whitney Phillips
b : to act as a troll (see 3troll 2) on (a forum, site, etc.)
??? is also notorious, for trolling message boards on the Internet, posting offensive material he himself has written and then suing anyone who responds in agreement. ???Mark Hemingway
c : to harass, criticize, or antagonize (someone) especially by provocatively disparaging or mocking public statements, postings, or acts.
Hmmmmm...I don't see anything about a troll being limited to someone who
only uses aliases. You made that up.
And I never said that. False charge.
Yes, you did, Marsh! Go look at your post!
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Bob Mueller made an excellent point in the indictments today which many
people here overlook. Some of the collusion was unwitting. As the KGB
used to say - useful idiots.
I have met John McAdams and I have talked to John McAdams in person.
I know he is not a Russian. But he has been enticed by the extreme
rightwing rhetoric of the Trump supporters and did not realize that they
are not his fellow Americans but actually are Russian agents taught to
mimic American hate groups and sow confusion.
Some of the trolls who post here hiding behind ridiculous aliases may
really just be Russian agents whose job is to use social media to sow
discord, distrust, and hatred.
The fools you see shouting "Lock her up" are not real Americans, they
are actors hired by the Russians to stir up hatred to destroy the US.
The leftists have divided America. The democratic party, according to
Joe Biden, was taken over by the Leftist Movement in 1972.
Don't you dare say that people who say "Lock her(Hillary) up" are not
American, Marsh. You President Trump haters are going around screaming at
the sky, and shouting "Lock him up", among other things. The word
False, I never said "lock him up." They are only talking about the
criminals already charged and those who pleaded guilty already. I'm sure
they will only get short sentences as long as they cooperate.
Who is "they"?
Carter Page, Steve Bannon, Paul Manafort, George Papadopoulos and
Michael Flynn, Felix Sater and Rick Gates.
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"extreme" describes the left, perfectly. Funny thing about you guys on the
violent, hate filled left, though. There are no actors. You are the real
So you know some leftists from your home state of Ohio who went out
marching with Tiki Torches and ran down protesters with their cars? Give
me their names or call the FBI and tell them. Why the cover-up?
Huh? Make sense, Marsh.
Well, we know about the extreme rightwinger from Ohio who ran over that
protestor and killed her. You have lots of them in Ohio. Remember, I still
have relatives in Ohio and I went to college there. So I know how racist a
state it it.
Citation please.
Citation? Don't you ever watch TV or listen to the news?
Man charged with murder after driving into anti-far-right protesters in
Charlottesville
James Fields, from Ohio, arrested following attack at ???Unite the Right???
gathering, and two police officers die in helicopter crash
Jason Wilson in Charlottesville, Virginia, Edward Helmore and Jon Swaine
Sun 13 Aug 2017 09.45 EDT
First published on Sat 12 Aug 2017 11.48 EDT
This article is 6 months old
One dead after car rams into anti-fascist protesters in Charlottesville
A man has been arrested and charged with murder after a car rammed into
a group of people peacefully protesting against a white supremacist
rally in Charlottesville, Virginia, killing one person and injuring 19.
Police said a 32-year-old woman had died and that they were attempting
to notify her family before releasing more details.
Col Martin Kumer, the superintendent of Albemarle-Charlottesville
regional jail, told the Guardian that 20-year-old James Fields, of Ohio,
had been arrested following the attack on Saturday.
James Fields was charged with second-degree murder.
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???He has been charged with second degree murder, three counts of
malicious wounding and failing to stop at an accident that resulted in a
death,??? Kumer said in an email.
Donald Trump condemned the ???violence on many sides???, but faced criticism
for failing to directly denounce the far-right demonstrators.
In a separate incident, two police officers died when their helicopter,
which was monitoring the far-right rally, crashed outside Charlottesville.
State police said in a statement the helicopter was ???assisting public
safety resources with the ongoing situation??? when it crashed in a wooded
area. The pilot, Lieutenant H Jay Cullen, 48, of Midlothian, Virginia,
and Trooper-pilot Berke Bates of Quinton, Virginia, died at the scene.
The deaths came at the end of a day marked by violent clashes between
far-right nationalists and people who had come to protest against their
occupation of a downtown park containing a statue of the Confederate
general Robert E Lee.
Witnesses said those hit by the car were peacefully protesting against
the white supremacist rally and footage showed the vehicle crashing into
another car, throwing people over the top of it.
Virginia governor says 'go home' to white supremacists and nazis ??? video
Charlottesville: far-right crowd with torches encircles counter-protest
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The photographer Pat Jarrett, who witnessed the incident, said: ???A gray
Dodge Charger plowed into a sedan and then into a minivan. Bodies flew.
People were terrified and screaming. Those closest to it said it was
definitely a violent attack. The driver, who people later described as a
skinny white guy with a straggly beard, reversed out of there and drove
off, the front end of his car all smashed up.???
Charlottesville mayor Mike Signer tweeted: ???I am heartbroken that a life
has been lost here. I urge all people of good will ??? go home.???
Speaking at a press conference on Saturday evening, the governor of
Virginia, Terry McAuliffe, who had earlier declared a state of
emergency, told the white supremacists: ???Go home ??? Shame on you. You
pretend you are patriots, but you are anything but a patriot.???
The mother of Fields told the Associated Press on Saturday night that
she knew her son was attending a rally in Virginia but didn???t know it
was a white supremacist rally.
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???I thought it had something to do with Trump. Trump???s not a white
supremacist,??? Samantha Bloom said, before becoming visibly upset as she
learned of the injuries and deaths at the rally ???He had an
African-American friend ???,??? she said before her voice trailed off.
Responding to the events in Charlottesville from Bedminster, New Jersey,
Trump: ???We condemn in the strongest possible terms this egregious
display of hatred, bigotry and violence on many sides, on many sides.???
But the Republican senator Marco Rubio tweeted that it was important for
Trump to describe the events as a ???terror attack by white supremacists???.
The FBI said it was opening a civil rights investigation into the
accident along with the justice department???s civil rights division and
the district attorney???s office.
The US attorney general, Jeff Sessions, said: ???The violence and deaths
in Charlottesville strike at the heart of American law and justice. When
such actions arise from racial bigotry and hatred, they betray our core
values and cannot be tolerated.
NBC News
Why do you always play dumb? We know you're not that dumb. WHat's your
game?
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Do YOU know any leftists from Ohio that went marching around then ran over
a protestor and killed he? Here is your chance to use false equivalency
and say the Leftists are as bad as the Rightwingers.
<crickets>
I answer your questions, but you won't answer mine.
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thing and aren't the least bit subtle about it. It's the left who have
I am not an actor. I played King Kasper in a musical play, but that was
more as a singer than an actor.
Where did I say you are an actor--or anyone else for that matter! You
need to read that again.
Read it again. Some idiot denied that the Russians hired actors. Maybe
the same idiot who denied that Trump hired actors to appear as a crowd
and his event to announce his candidacy.
Citation please
Oh, so you can't admit ANYTHING about Trump.
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His campaign would later admit paying $12,000, but given the "modest"
amount, the FEC is exercising discretion and dismissing a complaint he
violated reporting rules.
Citation please
I did already.
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As Donald Trump gets sworn in as the 45th president of the United States,
the Federal Election Commission has closed the chapter on an investigation
on how his presidential campaign started.
Citation please
IBID
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On June 16, 2015, Trump announced he was running for the highest office.
As first detailed in The Hollywood Reporter, the campaign hired actors to
cheer him on. That drew public attention, although it was later
overshadowed by his harsh pronouncement of Mexicans as "rapists." At the
time, Trump's then campaign manager Corey Lewandowski denied paying anyone
to attend the event and said that he had never heard of Extra Mile or
Gotham Government Relations, the two companies that THR reported were
involved in putting out a casting call for people to attend the event.
A few months later, with no disclosures related to this, the American
Democracy Legal Fund filed a complaint, alleging that Trump's campaign
violated the reporting provisions of the Federal Election Campaign Act of
1971.
Donald J. Trump for President, Inc., then admitted paying Gotham $12,000
on Oct. 8, 2015. Gotham reported to the FCC it hired Extra Mile as a
subcontractor to provide support at Trump's announcement. Still, this
doesn't settle the issue because of the allegation that Trump may have
accepted prohibited or excessive contributions from the two companies
involved with hiring the actors.
According to a FEC general counsel's report in March 2016, made public
Thursday, it was "clear" that Trump's campaign "did not pay Gotham for its
services for almost four months after the event, and did not report the
transaction for more than seven months after the event. Thus, Gotham's
apparent extension of credit to the Committee for the services rendered at
the June candidacy announcement may constitute an excessive or prohibited
contribution, and the Committee failed to report the amount it owed Gotham
as a debt."
"However," the report continued, "because of the seemingly modest amount
at issue, we recommend that the Commission exercise its prosecutorial
discretion and dismiss the allegation ..."
That's just what the FEC has done, quietly announcing its decision to
close the file on the complaint on the eve of Trump's inauguration.
Citation for all please
Learn how to click on links and use Google.
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divided America, and it's the left are the violent ones and it's the left
So, you also like to play Trump's game of false equivalency? Which violent
ones on the left? You aren't old enough to remember the Weather
Underground. Again, if you know any violent leftists it is your duty as a
citizen to call the FBI and give them the names. Or are you covering up
for them?
Why would I be "covering up" for leftists, Marsh? If I had the
opportunity to turn in leftists I wouldn't waste a second in doing so!
We all know that you are a leftist here, you don't have to tell us that.
It's written all over your constant postings and in everything you say.
Well, did you need a college education to figure that out?
Proud of being a leftist. Go figure. Why don't you move to Russia?
They'd welcome you with open arms.
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Again, I said, if YOU want to play the false equivalency game, pick up
the phone and turn in some of these leftwing wing terrorists that you
think are as dangerous as the neo-Nazis.
I'm not playing any game.
Yes, you are. Playing Trump's game of false equivalency.
"I'm not the Puppet, you're the Puppet."
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who overtook the Democratic party. "Fools"? Look into the mirror, Marsh.
FYI, the left was always dominant in the Democratic Party. That is nothing
new. Bernie tried to push it more to the left and was rejected. I am a
Bernie supporter, but the Democratic Party was not yet prepared to go that
far to the left.
Take it up with Biden.
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Take that up with Biden. He is the person who said the leftists took
over the Democratic party in 1972.
So what? Was it exactly 1972? Was it in reaction to Nixon.
Again, I reject the lie that JFK was not a leftist.
You attack JFK BECAUSE he was a leftist.
again, ask Biden. He said it!
So what
Biden did not say that the Democractic party never had Liberals before.
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That which you see defines the word.
Hey, man, that's like almost philosophical. Luckily you don't know what
it means.
I know a heck of a lot more than you think, Marsh. You've been warned.
Oh, so now you want to do Cyber Threats and McAdams allows you to make
them here?
"Threats"? LOL!!! Am I that much of a "threat" to you, Marsh by just
saying the words " I know a lot more than you think, Marsh. You've been
warned"? What, exactly is "threatening" about it?
"YOUuve been warned" is a Cyber Threat.
Prove it, Marsh. Show me where it says that the words "You've been
warned" is considered a Cyber threat.
Court decisions.
Really? I don't believe you. Post a link or tell me where I can find a "Court decision" on the words "You've been warned", Marsh. I Googled it, there's nothing there, so it's up to you to provide me with proof of your claim that the words "You've been warned" are a cyber threat" according to a court decision!
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Man Charged with Harassment Shows that It Can Come in Many Forms??? but
Has he Harassed?
Posted by Steve Karimi | Dec 05, 2014 | 0 Comments
Derek Grube has been charged with misdemeanor and felony harassment after
he posted an ad on Craigslist threatening students at the University of
Washington.
The post, titled ???UW ??? 32???, begins ???Dear UW Kids, Contrary to what
u may believe you are not better than anyone else u are not worth more
than anyone else and u certainly aren't above the rules just cuz u attend
UW and others don't.???
It goes on to criticize the behavior of students who make disruptions at
University libraries, and then threatens those that continue to cause
disruptions there. The post continues, warning, ???I swear to god if this
(expletive) doesn't stop I'm just gonna start shooting you worthless
(expletive) and do the world a huge favor. You've been warned.???
University Police, with the help of craigslist itself, discovered that the
post was made by an iPad that accessed the Internet from the school's
School of Social Work building. They found Grube in the building using an
iPad, where he allegedly admitted making the posting. Along with his iPad,
police also confiscated two hard drives and a cell phone from him.
According to his charging documents, Grube has only been in Seattle for a
few weeks. He is being held in King County Jail and his bail has been set
at $75,000.
This story brings to mind two separate avenues of analysis. First, it
shows that harassment can come in many forms. Harassment can be done in
person, over the phone, or even over the internet. It can come via the
spoken word, a recorded voice, a written word, picture, or video.
Regardless of the method of communication, harassment is harassment in
Washington.
The second avenue is perhaps a bit more relevant and makes this case
interesting. Under Washington law, harassment occurs when one knowingly
threatens an immediate injury??? and those threats create a reasonable
fear in the person threatened that they will be carried out.
A quality defense attorney will look at the facts presented here and
legitimately question whether Grube's post really fulfills the
requirements for a harassment conviction in Washington. The statute
requires that the threat put a reasonable fear in the person threatened.
Here, it is unclear whether the person that reported the post to UW police
was at the school or is even associated with it. Craigslist's Seattle
page, after all, can be viewed from anywhere on the planet.
This case is another example of the benefits of having an experienced
criminal attorney. Grube listed his address as the University Street
Ministry, which serves homeless youth and young adults in and around the
University District. It is likely that he is indigent and without private
counsel.
An experienced attorney, such as one from the Law Office of Steve Karimi,
will ensure that before you are held with excessive bail, the charges
against you meet your conduct. If you have been charged with a crime in
the Greater Seattle area, give him a call. He will ensure your rights are
protected.
Oh no you don't, Marsh! POST THE LINK to what you copied and pasted
above. I don't trust you any further than I can fly! Post the link to
this!
So you can't Google it yourself? IF I just posted the link without quoting
it you would not have bothered reading it. Are you trying to dispute it.
"Really? I don't believe you. Post a link or tell me where I can find
a "Court decision" on the words "You've been warned", Marsh. I Googled it,
there's nothing there, so it's up to you to provide me with proof of your
claim that the words "You've been warned" are a cyber threat" according to
a court decision!" Posting copied and pasted drivel without posting the
link isn't the way to do things, yet you try to pull that crap.
You either post the link, or keep quiet, Marsh. I googled and there is
nothing about any court decision calling the words "You've been warned" a
"cyber threat". Stop insulting people by expecting us to take you at your
word. I don't trust you any more than I could pick you up and throw you.
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It would save us all some time if you would flag your messages like this
at the top with NO CONTENT: JUST MINDLSS ATTACKS.
It would save us all a lot of grief if you would post links and/or
citations to back up the things that you say!!!
I do so all the time and you claim you don't understand them and McAdams
claims they are too long. Worst one was the one that was so easy that
even YOU could have Googled it, but instead you just insinuated that I
made up the whole article. I don't see other posters doing that. Only you.
What's wrong with you? You don't know how to use Google?
Maybe you could go back to 6th grade and they'd teach you.
No you don't, and I have NEVER calimed that " I don't understand them".
Where do you come up with this crap, Marsh? That's what this entire
discussion is about. You posted something that you copied and pasted from
somewhere (or, you typed it up yourself) without as much as providing the
link. You are the only one who does that! WHY?! Oh wait, I know why...
So, Steve, you really want to use an alis to self-identify as a Hillbilly
and you think people can't figure out who you are? And you want to
publicly admit that you indeed are accusing me of just making up a story
rather than cutting and pasting an article? And confirm that you don't
know how to use Google?
Yeah, Marsh. I did it just to stir you up. You so enjoy whining about
people picking on you, attacking you, lying about you, getting
preferential treatment and you being left out, and on and on and on... I
know how you feel about hillbillies, too. Country bumpkins, uneducated
morons as you call them. I just love getting your goat. You missed it the
last time I posted under this same screen name a few weeks ago when we a
were arguing on another topic in here. You aren't very observant. It went
right past you.

Get this straight, Marsh. The word doesn't revolve around you. I know
you think it does, but you're wrong. You can't stand it when you've been
bested and you have been bested by the best of us in here.

I know how to use Google. I've been at it for years with Google I also
use DuckDuck Go, Bing, Yahoo and others. And yeah, I PUBLICLY ACCUSE YOU
OF OF CUTTING AND PASTING AN ARTICLE WITHOUT ALSO INCLUDING THE LINK! I
even typed it in capital letters so everyone will see that I am accusing
you of cutting and pasting rather than providing a link. I haven't
anything to hide when it comes to you, Marsh. I told you once, I'll say it
again. I know a lot more about you than you think. You've been warned.
Call that a cyber threat all you want, but there's no such thing as the
words "You've been warned" being called a threat by "A court decision".
Nothing. You created that out of thin air. There was nothing within that
mess that you copied and pasted that said those words are a cyber threat.
So cut the crap, you grumpy old man.



OK, then use Bing or find some kindergartner to
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teach you how to do an Internet search. There can't be too many lawyers
Posted by Steve Karimi | Dec 05, 2014
Just search for Steve Karimi Derek Grube
http://www.domesticviolenceseattle.com/man-charged-with-harassment-shows-that-it-can-come-in-many-forms-but-has-he-harassed
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Like i said, Marsh, I don'trust you any more than I could pick you up and
throw you. I use Google constantly. Why can't you? Why won't you just
You don't know how to use Google. Try Bing instead. But don't be a Yahoo.
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post the link to that garbage you posted that didn't prove a thing you
said? How about you go back to school and have someone teach you how to
be civil and courteous instead of a grumpy old man!
How can anyone be civil an unruly newsgroup like this? Try being sane
and you might be treated civilly.
The unruly calling others unruly. Why doesn't that surprise me? You
pride yourself on talking down to people. Get off the soap box, old man.
Oh, and pot. meet kettle. Watch it with telling others to be sane. You
have lot to learn.
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"Mindlss(sic) attacks". That's cute, Marsh.
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By the way...you claim that trolls are people who only use aliases, in
No, silly. I just said that some Commodore BBS only used aliases. Learn
ENglish. Go back and finish grammar school.
NOPE! Go back and read your post! You said exactly what I told you.
Learn English. Go back to grammar school.
Oh no you don't, Marsh. POST THE LINK to what you copied and pasted.
I don't trust you any further than I can fly! Post the link
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another thread. Nothing could be further from the truth. Try Googling it
once. You will see that a troll can be anyone, just like you. Here's how
Webster Dictionary defines the word. Note that it says *NOTHING* limiting
Well, gee if you look at the wrong page you can see that a Troll is a
mythological creature, maybe even see the movie. We were talking about
Internet trolls. Stay on topic.
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https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/troll
a : to antagonize (others) online by deliberately posting inflammatory, irrelevant, or offensive comments or other disruptive content
??? trolls engage in the most outrageous and offensive behaviors possible???all the better to troll you with. ???Whitney Phillips
b : to act as a troll (see 3troll 2) on (a forum, site, etc.)
??? is also notorious, for trolling message boards on the Internet, posting offensive material he himself has written and then suing anyone who responds in agreement. ???Mark Hemingway
c : to harass, criticize, or antagonize (someone) especially by provocatively disparaging or mocking public statements, postings, or acts.
Hmmmmm...I don't see anything about a troll being limited to someone who
only uses aliases. You made that up.
And I never said that. False charge.
Yes, you did, Marsh! Go look at your post!
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I know a heck of a lot more than you think, Marsh. You've been warned.
Oh, so now you want to do Cyber Threats and McAdams allows you to make
them here?
"Threats"? LOL!!! Am I that much of a "threat" to you, Marsh by just
saying the words " I know a lot more than you think, Marsh. You've been
warned"? What, exactly is "threatening" about it?
"YOUuve been warned" is a Cyber Threat.
Prove it, Marsh. Show me where it says that the words "You've been
warned" is considered a Cyber threat.
Court decisions.
Really? I don't believe you. Post a link or tell me where I can find a "Court decision" on the words "You've been warned", Marsh. I Googled it, there's nothing there, so it's up to you to provide me with proof of your claim that the words "You've been warned" are a cyber threat" according to a court decision!
Now Marsh posts a huge article, thinking that people will actually
believe that it proves the point he has been making.

But as usual, it doesn't.
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Man Charged with Harassment Shows that It Can Come in Many Forms??? but
Has he Harassed?
Posted by Steve Karimi | Dec 05, 2014 | 0 Comments
Derek Grube has been charged with misdemeanor and felony harassment after
he posted an ad on Craigslist threatening students at the University of
Washington.
The post, titled ???UW ??? 32???, begins ???Dear UW Kids, Contrary to what
u may believe you are not better than anyone else u are not worth more
than anyone else and u certainly aren't above the rules just cuz u attend
UW and others don't.???
It goes on to criticize the behavior of students who make disruptions at
University libraries, and then threatens those that continue to cause
disruptions there. The post continues, warning, ???I swear to god if this
(expletive) doesn't stop I'm just gonna start shooting you worthless
(expletive) and do the world a huge favor. You've been warned.???
Claiming you are going to start shooting people is a threat.

"You've been warned" is not.

.John
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Bob Mueller made an excellent point in the indictments today which many
people here overlook. Some of the collusion was unwitting. As the KGB
used to say - useful idiots.
I have met John McAdams and I have talked to John McAdams in person.
I know he is not a Russian. But he has been enticed by the extreme
rightwing rhetoric of the Trump supporters and did not realize that they
are not his fellow Americans but actually are Russian agents taught to
mimic American hate groups and sow confusion.
Some of the trolls who post here hiding behind ridiculous aliases may
really just be Russian agents whose job is to use social media to sow
discord, distrust, and hatred.
The fools you see shouting "Lock her up" are not real Americans, they
are actors hired by the Russians to stir up hatred to destroy the US.
The leftists have divided America. The democratic party, according to
Joe Biden, was taken over by the Leftist Movement in 1972.
Don't you dare say that people who say "Lock her(Hillary) up" are not
American, Marsh. You President Trump haters are going around screaming at
the sky, and shouting "Lock him up", among other things. The word
False, I never said "lock him up." They are only talking about the
criminals already charged and those who pleaded guilty already. I'm sure
they will only get short sentences as long as they cooperate.
Who is "they"?
Carter Page, Steve Bannon, Paul Manafort, George Papadopoulos and
Michael Flynn, Felix Sater and Rick Gates.
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"extreme" describes the left, perfectly. Funny thing about you guys on the
violent, hate filled left, though. There are no actors. You are the real
So you know some leftists from your home state of Ohio who went out
marching with Tiki Torches and ran down protesters with their cars? Give
me their names or call the FBI and tell them. Why the cover-up?
Huh? Make sense, Marsh.
Well, we know about the extreme rightwinger from Ohio who ran over that
protestor and killed her. You have lots of them in Ohio. Remember, I still
have relatives in Ohio and I went to college there. So I know how racist a
state it it.
Citation please.
Citation? Don't you ever watch TV or listen to the news?
Man charged with murder after driving into anti-far-right protesters in
Charlottesville
James Fields, from Ohio, arrested following attack at ???Unite the Right???
gathering, and two police officers die in helicopter crash
Jason Wilson in Charlottesville, Virginia, Edward Helmore and Jon Swaine
Sun 13 Aug 2017 09.45 EDT
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One dead after car rams into anti-fascist protesters in Charlottesville
A man has been arrested and charged with murder after a car rammed into
a group of people peacefully protesting against a white supremacist
rally in Charlottesville, Virginia, killing one person and injuring 19.
Police said a 32-year-old woman had died and that they were attempting
to notify her family before releasing more details.
Col Martin Kumer, the superintendent of Albemarle-Charlottesville
regional jail, told the Guardian that 20-year-old James Fields, of Ohio,
had been arrested following the attack on Saturday.
James Fields was charged with second-degree murder.
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???He has been charged with second degree murder, three counts of
malicious wounding and failing to stop at an accident that resulted in a
death,??? Kumer said in an email.
Donald Trump condemned the ???violence on many sides???, but faced criticism
for failing to directly denounce the far-right demonstrators.
In a separate incident, two police officers died when their helicopter,
which was monitoring the far-right rally, crashed outside Charlottesville.
State police said in a statement the helicopter was ???assisting public
safety resources with the ongoing situation??? when it crashed in a wooded
area. The pilot, Lieutenant H Jay Cullen, 48, of Midlothian, Virginia,
and Trooper-pilot Berke Bates of Quinton, Virginia, died at the scene.
The deaths came at the end of a day marked by violent clashes between
far-right nationalists and people who had come to protest against their
occupation of a downtown park containing a statue of the Confederate
general Robert E Lee.
Witnesses said those hit by the car were peacefully protesting against
the white supremacist rally and footage showed the vehicle crashing into
another car, throwing people over the top of it.
Virginia governor says 'go home' to white supremacists and nazis ??? video
Charlottesville: far-right crowd with torches encircles counter-protest
group
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The photographer Pat Jarrett, who witnessed the incident, said: ???A gray
Dodge Charger plowed into a sedan and then into a minivan. Bodies flew.
People were terrified and screaming. Those closest to it said it was
definitely a violent attack. The driver, who people later described as a
skinny white guy with a straggly beard, reversed out of there and drove
off, the front end of his car all smashed up.???
Charlottesville mayor Mike Signer tweeted: ???I am heartbroken that a life
has been lost here. I urge all people of good will ??? go home.???
Speaking at a press conference on Saturday evening, the governor of
Virginia, Terry McAuliffe, who had earlier declared a state of
emergency, told the white supremacists: ???Go home ??? Shame on you. You
pretend you are patriots, but you are anything but a patriot.???
The mother of Fields told the Associated Press on Saturday night that
she knew her son was attending a rally in Virginia but didn???t know it
was a white supremacist rally.
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???I thought it had something to do with Trump. Trump???s not a white
supremacist,??? Samantha Bloom said, before becoming visibly upset as she
learned of the injuries and deaths at the rally ???He had an
African-American friend ???,??? she said before her voice trailed off.
Responding to the events in Charlottesville from Bedminster, New Jersey,
Trump: ???We condemn in the strongest possible terms this egregious
display of hatred, bigotry and violence on many sides, on many sides.???
But the Republican senator Marco Rubio tweeted that it was important for
Trump to describe the events as a ???terror attack by white supremacists???.
The FBI said it was opening a civil rights investigation into the
accident along with the justice department???s civil rights division and
the district attorney???s office.
The US attorney general, Jeff Sessions, said: ???The violence and deaths
in Charlottesville strike at the heart of American law and justice. When
such actions arise from racial bigotry and hatred, they betray our core
values and cannot be tolerated.
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Why do you always play dumb? We know you're not that dumb. WHat's your
game?
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Do YOU know any leftists from Ohio that went marching around then ran over
a protestor and killed he? Here is your chance to use false equivalency
and say the Leftists are as bad as the Rightwingers.
<crickets>
I answer your questions, but you won't answer mine.
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thing and aren't the least bit subtle about it. It's the left who have
I am not an actor. I played King Kasper in a musical play, but that was
more as a singer than an actor.
Where did I say you are an actor--or anyone else for that matter! You
need to read that again.
Read it again. Some idiot denied that the Russians hired actors. Maybe
the same idiot who denied that Trump hired actors to appear as a crowd
and his event to announce his candidacy.
Citation please
Oh, so you can't admit ANYTHING about Trump.
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/thr-esq/donald-trump-escapes-fec-punishment-paid-actors-at-presidential-announcement-966428
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His campaign would later admit paying $12,000, but given the "modest"
amount, the FEC is exercising discretion and dismissing a complaint he
violated reporting rules.
Citation please
I did already.
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As Donald Trump gets sworn in as the 45th president of the United States,
the Federal Election Commission has closed the chapter on an investigation
on how his presidential campaign started.
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IBID
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On June 16, 2015, Trump announced he was running for the highest office.
As first detailed in The Hollywood Reporter, the campaign hired actors to
cheer him on. That drew public attention, although it was later
overshadowed by his harsh pronouncement of Mexicans as "rapists." At the
time, Trump's then campaign manager Corey Lewandowski denied paying anyone
to attend the event and said that he had never heard of Extra Mile or
Gotham Government Relations, the two companies that THR reported were
involved in putting out a casting call for people to attend the event.
A few months later, with no disclosures related to this, the American
Democracy Legal Fund filed a complaint, alleging that Trump's campaign
violated the reporting provisions of the Federal Election Campaign Act of
1971.
Donald J. Trump for President, Inc., then admitted paying Gotham $12,000
on Oct. 8, 2015. Gotham reported to the FCC it hired Extra Mile as a
subcontractor to provide support at Trump's announcement. Still, this
doesn't settle the issue because of the allegation that Trump may have
accepted prohibited or excessive contributions from the two companies
involved with hiring the actors.
According to a FEC general counsel's report in March 2016, made public
Thursday, it was "clear" that Trump's campaign "did not pay Gotham for its
services for almost four months after the event, and did not report the
transaction for more than seven months after the event. Thus, Gotham's
apparent extension of credit to the Committee for the services rendered at
the June candidacy announcement may constitute an excessive or prohibited
contribution, and the Committee failed to report the amount it owed Gotham
as a debt."
"However," the report continued, "because of the seemingly modest amount
at issue, we recommend that the Commission exercise its prosecutorial
discretion and dismiss the allegation ..."
That's just what the FEC has done, quietly announcing its decision to
close the file on the complaint on the eve of Trump's inauguration.
Citation for all please
Learn how to click on links and use Google.
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divided America, and it's the left are the violent ones and it's the left
So, you also like to play Trump's game of false equivalency? Which violent
ones on the left? You aren't old enough to remember the Weather
Underground. Again, if you know any violent leftists it is your duty as a
citizen to call the FBI and give them the names. Or are you covering up
for them?
Why would I be "covering up" for leftists, Marsh? If I had the
opportunity to turn in leftists I wouldn't waste a second in doing so!
We all know that you are a leftist here, you don't have to tell us that.
It's written all over your constant postings and in everything you say.
Well, did you need a college education to figure that out?
Proud of being a leftist. Go figure. Why don't you move to Russia?
They'd welcome you with open arms.
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Again, I said, if YOU want to play the false equivalency game, pick up
the phone and turn in some of these leftwing wing terrorists that you
think are as dangerous as the neo-Nazis.
I'm not playing any game.
Yes, you are. Playing Trump's game of false equivalency.
"I'm not the Puppet, you're the Puppet."
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who overtook the Democratic party. "Fools"? Look into the mirror, Marsh.
FYI, the left was always dominant in the Democratic Party. That is nothing
new. Bernie tried to push it more to the left and was rejected. I am a
Bernie supporter, but the Democratic Party was not yet prepared to go that
far to the left.
Take it up with Biden.
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Take that up with Biden. He is the person who said the leftists took
over the Democratic party in 1972.
So what? Was it exactly 1972? Was it in reaction to Nixon.
Again, I reject the lie that JFK was not a leftist.
You attack JFK BECAUSE he was a leftist.
again, ask Biden. He said it!
So what
Biden did not say that the Democractic party never had Liberals before.
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That which you see defines the word.
Hey, man, that's like almost philosophical. Luckily you don't know what
it means.
I know a heck of a lot more than you think, Marsh. You've been warned.
Oh, so now you want to do Cyber Threats and McAdams allows you to make
them here?
"Threats"? LOL!!! Am I that much of a "threat" to you, Marsh by just
saying the words " I know a lot more than you think, Marsh. You've been
warned"? What, exactly is "threatening" about it?
"YOUuve been warned" is a Cyber Threat.
Prove it, Marsh. Show me where it says that the words "You've been
warned" is considered a Cyber threat.
Court decisions.
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By the way...you claim that trolls are people who only use aliases, in
No, silly. I just said that some Commodore BBS only used aliases. Learn
ENglish. Go back and finish grammar school.
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another thread. Nothing could be further from the truth. Try Googling it
once. You will see that a troll can be anyone, just like you. Here's how
Webster Dictionary defines the word. Note that it says *NOTHING* limiting
Well, gee if you look at the wrong page you can see that a Troll is a
mythological creature, maybe even see the movie. We were talking about
Internet trolls. Stay on topic.
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https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/troll
a : to antagonize (others) online by deliberately posting inflammatory, irrelevant, or offensive comments or other disruptive content
??? trolls engage in the most outrageous and offensive behaviors possible???all the better to troll you with. ???Whitney Phillips
b : to act as a troll (see 3troll 2) on (a forum, site, etc.)
??? is also notorious, for trolling message boards on the Internet, posting offensive material he himself has written and then suing anyone who responds in agreement. ???Mark Hemingway
c : to harass, criticize, or antagonize (someone) especially by provocatively disparaging or mocking public statements, postings, or acts.
Hmmmmm...I don't see anything about a troll being limited to someone who
only uses aliases. You made that up.
And I never said that. False charge.
Not a "false charge". This YOUR post, your words, your definition of
newsgroup trolls, posted January 18, 2017: Here is the link:

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.assassination.jfk/5gHMvv1LAjc/ICKplDKOAAAJ

Here's what you said:

Silly. Don't you even know the definition of Troll?

A NEW poster using an alias who attacks the regulars in a newsgroup. You
can't be a Troll. You use your real name. I can't be a troll. I use my
real name. We have both been in this newsgroup for over 20 years. We are
the regulars. Trolls attack the regulars. And hide behind aliases. Did you
notice that the Russian Troll farm was clever enough to set up its own US
server and synch the US posting times with the Russian bot times so that
they LOOKED like Americans? That's why I reminded YOU about YOUR time zone
which I KNOW. If I see you posting at 3AM I'm going to worry about you and
call your doctor.
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Bob Mueller made an excellent point in the indictments today which many
people here overlook. Some of the collusion was unwitting. As the KGB
used to say - useful idiots.
I have met John McAdams and I have talked to John McAdams in person.
I know he is not a Russian. But he has been enticed by the extreme
rightwing rhetoric of the Trump supporters and did not realize that they
are not his fellow Americans but actually are Russian agents taught to
mimic American hate groups and sow confusion.
Some of the trolls who post here hiding behind ridiculous aliases may
really just be Russian agents whose job is to use social media to sow
discord, distrust, and hatred.
The fools you see shouting "Lock her up" are not real Americans, they
are actors hired by the Russians to stir up hatred to destroy the US.
The leftists have divided America. The democratic party, according to
Joe Biden, was taken over by the Leftist Movement in 1972.
Don't you dare say that people who say "Lock her(Hillary) up" are not
American, Marsh. You President Trump haters are going around screaming at
the sky, and shouting "Lock him up", among other things. The word
False, I never said "lock him up." They are only talking about the
criminals already charged and those who pleaded guilty already. I'm sure
they will only get short sentences as long as they cooperate.
Who is "they"?
Carter Page, Steve Bannon, Paul Manafort, George Papadopoulos and
Michael Flynn, Felix Sater and Rick Gates.
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"extreme" describes the left, perfectly. Funny thing about you guys on the
violent, hate filled left, though. There are no actors. You are the real
So you know some leftists from your home state of Ohio who went out
marching with Tiki Torches and ran down protesters with their cars? Give
me their names or call the FBI and tell them. Why the cover-up?
Huh? Make sense, Marsh.
Well, we know about the extreme rightwinger from Ohio who ran over that
protestor and killed her. You have lots of them in Ohio. Remember, I still
have relatives in Ohio and I went to college there. So I know how racist a
state it it.
Citation please.
Citation? Don't you ever watch TV or listen to the news?
Man charged with murder after driving into anti-far-right protesters in
Charlottesville
James Fields, from Ohio, arrested following attack at ???Unite the Right???
gathering, and two police officers die in helicopter crash
Jason Wilson in Charlottesville, Virginia, Edward Helmore and Jon Swaine
Sun 13 Aug 2017 09.45 EDT
First published on Sat 12 Aug 2017 11.48 EDT
This article is 6 months old
One dead after car rams into anti-fascist protesters in Charlottesville
A man has been arrested and charged with murder after a car rammed into
a group of people peacefully protesting against a white supremacist
rally in Charlottesville, Virginia, killing one person and injuring 19.
Police said a 32-year-old woman had died and that they were attempting
to notify her family before releasing more details.
Col Martin Kumer, the superintendent of Albemarle-Charlottesville
regional jail, told the Guardian that 20-year-old James Fields, of Ohio,
had been arrested following the attack on Saturday.
James Fields was charged with second-degree murder.
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???He has been charged with second degree murder, three counts of
malicious wounding and failing to stop at an accident that resulted in a
death,??? Kumer said in an email.
Donald Trump condemned the ???violence on many sides???, but faced criticism
for failing to directly denounce the far-right demonstrators.
In a separate incident, two police officers died when their helicopter,
which was monitoring the far-right rally, crashed outside Charlottesville.
State police said in a statement the helicopter was ???assisting public
safety resources with the ongoing situation??? when it crashed in a wooded
area. The pilot, Lieutenant H Jay Cullen, 48, of Midlothian, Virginia,
and Trooper-pilot Berke Bates of Quinton, Virginia, died at the scene.
The deaths came at the end of a day marked by violent clashes between
far-right nationalists and people who had come to protest against their
occupation of a downtown park containing a statue of the Confederate
general Robert E Lee.
Witnesses said those hit by the car were peacefully protesting against
the white supremacist rally and footage showed the vehicle crashing into
another car, throwing people over the top of it.
Virginia governor says 'go home' to white supremacists and nazis ??? video
Charlottesville: far-right crowd with torches encircles counter-protest
group
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The photographer Pat Jarrett, who witnessed the incident, said: ???A gray
Dodge Charger plowed into a sedan and then into a minivan. Bodies flew.
People were terrified and screaming. Those closest to it said it was
definitely a violent attack. The driver, who people later described as a
skinny white guy with a straggly beard, reversed out of there and drove
off, the front end of his car all smashed up.???
Charlottesville mayor Mike Signer tweeted: ???I am heartbroken that a life
has been lost here. I urge all people of good will ??? go home.???
Speaking at a press conference on Saturday evening, the governor of
Virginia, Terry McAuliffe, who had earlier declared a state of
emergency, told the white supremacists: ???Go home ??? Shame on you. You
pretend you are patriots, but you are anything but a patriot.???
The mother of Fields told the Associated Press on Saturday night that
she knew her son was attending a rally in Virginia but didn???t know it
was a white supremacist rally.
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???I thought it had something to do with Trump. Trump???s not a white
supremacist,??? Samantha Bloom said, before becoming visibly upset as she
learned of the injuries and deaths at the rally ???He had an
African-American friend ???,??? she said before her voice trailed off.
Responding to the events in Charlottesville from Bedminster, New Jersey,
Trump: ???We condemn in the strongest possible terms this egregious
display of hatred, bigotry and violence on many sides, on many sides.???
But the Republican senator Marco Rubio tweeted that it was important for
Trump to describe the events as a ???terror attack by white supremacists???.
The FBI said it was opening a civil rights investigation into the
accident along with the justice department???s civil rights division and
the district attorney???s office.
The US attorney general, Jeff Sessions, said: ???The violence and deaths
in Charlottesville strike at the heart of American law and justice. When
such actions arise from racial bigotry and hatred, they betray our core
values and cannot be tolerated.
NBC News
Why do you always play dumb? We know you're not that dumb. WHat's your
game?
Post by Steve Barber
Post by Anthony Marsh
Do YOU know any leftists from Ohio that went marching around then ran over
a protestor and killed he? Here is your chance to use false equivalency
and say the Leftists are as bad as the Rightwingers.
<crickets>
I answer your questions, but you won't answer mine.
Post by Steve Barber
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by Steve Barber
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by Steve Barber
thing and aren't the least bit subtle about it. It's the left who have
I am not an actor. I played King Kasper in a musical play, but that was
more as a singer than an actor.
Where did I say you are an actor--or anyone else for that matter! You
need to read that again.
Read it again. Some idiot denied that the Russians hired actors. Maybe
the same idiot who denied that Trump hired actors to appear as a crowd
and his event to announce his candidacy.
Citation please
Oh, so you can't admit ANYTHING about Trump.
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/thr-esq/donald-trump-escapes-fec-punishment-paid-actors-at-presidential-announcement-966428
Post by Steve Barber
Post by Anthony Marsh
His campaign would later admit paying $12,000, but given the "modest"
amount, the FEC is exercising discretion and dismissing a complaint he
violated reporting rules.
Citation please
I did already.
Post by Steve Barber
Post by Anthony Marsh
As Donald Trump gets sworn in as the 45th president of the United States,
the Federal Election Commission has closed the chapter on an investigation
on how his presidential campaign started.
Citation please
IBID
Post by Steve Barber
Post by Anthony Marsh
On June 16, 2015, Trump announced he was running for the highest office.
As first detailed in The Hollywood Reporter, the campaign hired actors to
cheer him on. That drew public attention, although it was later
overshadowed by his harsh pronouncement of Mexicans as "rapists." At the
time, Trump's then campaign manager Corey Lewandowski denied paying anyone
to attend the event and said that he had never heard of Extra Mile or
Gotham Government Relations, the two companies that THR reported were
involved in putting out a casting call for people to attend the event.
A few months later, with no disclosures related to this, the American
Democracy Legal Fund filed a complaint, alleging that Trump's campaign
violated the reporting provisions of the Federal Election Campaign Act of
1971.
Donald J. Trump for President, Inc., then admitted paying Gotham $12,000
on Oct. 8, 2015. Gotham reported to the FCC it hired Extra Mile as a
subcontractor to provide support at Trump's announcement. Still, this
doesn't settle the issue because of the allegation that Trump may have
accepted prohibited or excessive contributions from the two companies
involved with hiring the actors.
According to a FEC general counsel's report in March 2016, made public
Thursday, it was "clear" that Trump's campaign "did not pay Gotham for its
services for almost four months after the event, and did not report the
transaction for more than seven months after the event. Thus, Gotham's
apparent extension of credit to the Committee for the services rendered at
the June candidacy announcement may constitute an excessive or prohibited
contribution, and the Committee failed to report the amount it owed Gotham
as a debt."
"However," the report continued, "because of the seemingly modest amount
at issue, we recommend that the Commission exercise its prosecutorial
discretion and dismiss the allegation ..."
That's just what the FEC has done, quietly announcing its decision to
close the file on the complaint on the eve of Trump's inauguration.
Citation for all please
Learn how to click on links and use Google.
Post by Steve Barber
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by Steve Barber
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by Steve Barber
divided America, and it's the left are the violent ones and it's the left
So, you also like to play Trump's game of false equivalency? Which violent
ones on the left? You aren't old enough to remember the Weather
Underground. Again, if you know any violent leftists it is your duty as a
citizen to call the FBI and give them the names. Or are you covering up
for them?
Why would I be "covering up" for leftists, Marsh? If I had the
opportunity to turn in leftists I wouldn't waste a second in doing so!
We all know that you are a leftist here, you don't have to tell us that.
It's written all over your constant postings and in everything you say.
Well, did you need a college education to figure that out?
Proud of being a leftist. Go figure. Why don't you move to Russia?
They'd welcome you with open arms.
Post by Anthony Marsh
Again, I said, if YOU want to play the false equivalency game, pick up
the phone and turn in some of these leftwing wing terrorists that you
think are as dangerous as the neo-Nazis.
I'm not playing any game.
Yes, you are. Playing Trump's game of false equivalency.
"I'm not the Puppet, you're the Puppet."
Post by Steve Barber
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by Steve Barber
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by Steve Barber
who overtook the Democratic party. "Fools"? Look into the mirror, Marsh.
FYI, the left was always dominant in the Democratic Party. That is nothing
new. Bernie tried to push it more to the left and was rejected. I am a
Bernie supporter, but the Democratic Party was not yet prepared to go that
far to the left.
Take it up with Biden.
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by Steve Barber
Take that up with Biden. He is the person who said the leftists took
over the Democratic party in 1972.
So what? Was it exactly 1972? Was it in reaction to Nixon.
Again, I reject the lie that JFK was not a leftist.
You attack JFK BECAUSE he was a leftist.
again, ask Biden. He said it!
So what
Biden did not say that the Democractic party never had Liberals before.
Post by Steve Barber
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by Steve Barber
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by Steve Barber
That which you see defines the word.
Hey, man, that's like almost philosophical. Luckily you don't know what
it means.
I know a heck of a lot more than you think, Marsh. You've been warned.
Oh, so now you want to do Cyber Threats and McAdams allows you to make
them here?
"Threats"? LOL!!! Am I that much of a "threat" to you, Marsh by just
saying the words " I know a lot more than you think, Marsh. You've been
warned"? What, exactly is "threatening" about it?
"YOUuve been warned" is a Cyber Threat.
Prove it, Marsh. Show me where it says that the words "You've been
warned" is considered a Cyber threat.
Court decisions.
Post by Steve Barber
By the way...you claim that trolls are people who only use aliases, in
No, silly. I just said that some Commodore BBS only used aliases. Learn
ENglish. Go back and finish grammar school.
Post by Steve Barber
another thread. Nothing could be further from the truth. Try Googling it
once. You will see that a troll can be anyone, just like you. Here's how
Webster Dictionary defines the word. Note that it says *NOTHING* limiting
Well, gee if you look at the wrong page you can see that a Troll is a
mythological creature, maybe even see the movie. We were talking about
Internet trolls. Stay on topic.
Post by Steve Barber
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/troll
a : to antagonize (others) online by deliberately posting inflammatory, irrelevant, or offensive comments or other disruptive content
??? trolls engage in the most outrageous and offensive behaviors possible???all the better to troll you with. ???Whitney Phillips
b : to act as a troll (see 3troll 2) on (a forum, site, etc.)
??? is also notorious, for trolling message boards on the Internet, posting offensive material he himself has written and then suing anyone who responds in agreement. ???Mark Hemingway
c : to harass, criticize, or antagonize (someone) especially by provocatively disparaging or mocking public statements, postings, or acts.
Hmmmmm...I don't see anything about a troll being limited to someone who
only uses aliases. You made that up.
And I never said that. False charge.
Not a "false charge". This YOUR post, your words, your definition of
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.assassination.jfk/5gHMvv1LAjc/ICKplDKOAAAJ
Silly. Don't you even know the definition of Troll?
A NEW poster using an alias who attacks the regulars in a newsgroup. You
can't be a Troll. You use your real name. I can't be a troll. I use my
real name. We have both been in this newsgroup for over 20 years. We are
the regulars. Trolls attack the regulars. And hide behind aliases. Did you
notice that the Russian Troll farm was clever enough to set up its own US
server and synch the US posting times with the Russian bot times so that
they LOOKED like Americans? That's why I reminded YOU about YOUR time zone
which I KNOW. If I see you posting at 3AM I'm going to worry about you and
call your doctor.
Hard to tell who said what when you don't know how to post properly.
I think you were trying to quote my mesage to .John reassuring him that
I do not call him a Troll. He is a ragular. He is the Moderator. He has
used his alias in public, bur not here. The definition does not rest on
only one factor.
Steve Barber
2018-03-03 16:27:11 UTC
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Raw Message
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by Steve Barber
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by Steve Barber
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by Steve Barber
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by Steve Barber
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by Steve Barber
Post by Anthony Marsh
Bob Mueller made an excellent point in the indictments today which many
people here overlook. Some of the collusion was unwitting. As the KGB
used to say - useful idiots.
I have met John McAdams and I have talked to John McAdams in person.
I know he is not a Russian. But he has been enticed by the extreme
rightwing rhetoric of the Trump supporters and did not realize that they
are not his fellow Americans but actually are Russian agents taught to
mimic American hate groups and sow confusion.
Some of the trolls who post here hiding behind ridiculous aliases may
really just be Russian agents whose job is to use social media to sow
discord, distrust, and hatred.
The fools you see shouting "Lock her up" are not real Americans, they
are actors hired by the Russians to stir up hatred to destroy the US.
The leftists have divided America. The democratic party, according to
Joe Biden, was taken over by the Leftist Movement in 1972.
Don't you dare say that people who say "Lock her(Hillary) up" are not
American, Marsh. You President Trump haters are going around screaming at
the sky, and shouting "Lock him up", among other things. The word
False, I never said "lock him up." They are only talking about the
criminals already charged and those who pleaded guilty already. I'm sure
they will only get short sentences as long as they cooperate.
Who is "they"?
Carter Page, Steve Bannon, Paul Manafort, George Papadopoulos and
Michael Flynn, Felix Sater and Rick Gates.
Post by Steve Barber
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by Steve Barber
"extreme" describes the left, perfectly. Funny thing about you guys on the
violent, hate filled left, though. There are no actors. You are the real
So you know some leftists from your home state of Ohio who went out
marching with Tiki Torches and ran down protesters with their cars? Give
me their names or call the FBI and tell them. Why the cover-up?
Huh? Make sense, Marsh.
Well, we know about the extreme rightwinger from Ohio who ran over that
protestor and killed her. You have lots of them in Ohio. Remember, I still
have relatives in Ohio and I went to college there. So I know how racist a
state it it.
Citation please.
Citation? Don't you ever watch TV or listen to the news?
Man charged with murder after driving into anti-far-right protesters in
Charlottesville
James Fields, from Ohio, arrested following attack at ???Unite the Right???
gathering, and two police officers die in helicopter crash
Jason Wilson in Charlottesville, Virginia, Edward Helmore and Jon Swaine
Sun 13 Aug 2017 09.45 EDT
First published on Sat 12 Aug 2017 11.48 EDT
This article is 6 months old
One dead after car rams into anti-fascist protesters in Charlottesville
A man has been arrested and charged with murder after a car rammed into
a group of people peacefully protesting against a white supremacist
rally in Charlottesville, Virginia, killing one person and injuring 19.
Police said a 32-year-old woman had died and that they were attempting
to notify her family before releasing more details.
Col Martin Kumer, the superintendent of Albemarle-Charlottesville
regional jail, told the Guardian that 20-year-old James Fields, of Ohio,
had been arrested following the attack on Saturday.
James Fields was charged with second-degree murder.
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???He has been charged with second degree murder, three counts of
malicious wounding and failing to stop at an accident that resulted in a
death,??? Kumer said in an email.
Donald Trump condemned the ???violence on many sides???, but faced criticism
for failing to directly denounce the far-right demonstrators.
In a separate incident, two police officers died when their helicopter,
which was monitoring the far-right rally, crashed outside Charlottesville.
State police said in a statement the helicopter was ???assisting public
safety resources with the ongoing situation??? when it crashed in a wooded
area. The pilot, Lieutenant H Jay Cullen, 48, of Midlothian, Virginia,
and Trooper-pilot Berke Bates of Quinton, Virginia, died at the scene.
The deaths came at the end of a day marked by violent clashes between
far-right nationalists and people who had come to protest against their
occupation of a downtown park containing a statue of the Confederate
general Robert E Lee.
Witnesses said those hit by the car were peacefully protesting against
the white supremacist rally and footage showed the vehicle crashing into
another car, throwing people over the top of it.
Virginia governor says 'go home' to white supremacists and nazis ??? video
Charlottesville: far-right crowd with torches encircles counter-protest
group
Read more
The photographer Pat Jarrett, who witnessed the incident, said: ???A gray
Dodge Charger plowed into a sedan and then into a minivan. Bodies flew.
People were terrified and screaming. Those closest to it said it was
definitely a violent attack. The driver, who people later described as a
skinny white guy with a straggly beard, reversed out of there and drove
off, the front end of his car all smashed up.???
Charlottesville mayor Mike Signer tweeted: ???I am heartbroken that a life
has been lost here. I urge all people of good will ??? go home.???
Speaking at a press conference on Saturday evening, the governor of
Virginia, Terry McAuliffe, who had earlier declared a state of
emergency, told the white supremacists: ???Go home ??? Shame on you. You
pretend you are patriots, but you are anything but a patriot.???
The mother of Fields told the Associated Press on Saturday night that
she knew her son was attending a rally in Virginia but didn???t know it
was a white supremacist rally.
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???I thought it had something to do with Trump. Trump???s not a white
supremacist,??? Samantha Bloom said, before becoming visibly upset as she
learned of the injuries and deaths at the rally ???He had an
African-American friend ???,??? she said before her voice trailed off.
Responding to the events in Charlottesville from Bedminster, New Jersey,
Trump: ???We condemn in the strongest possible terms this egregious
display of hatred, bigotry and violence on many sides, on many sides.???
But the Republican senator Marco Rubio tweeted that it was important for
Trump to describe the events as a ???terror attack by white supremacists???.
The FBI said it was opening a civil rights investigation into the
accident along with the justice department???s civil rights division and
the district attorney???s office.
The US attorney general, Jeff Sessions, said: ???The violence and deaths
in Charlottesville strike at the heart of American law and justice. When
such actions arise from racial bigotry and hatred, they betray our core
values and cannot be tolerated.
NBC News
Why do you always play dumb? We know you're not that dumb. WHat's your
game?
Post by Steve Barber
Post by Anthony Marsh
Do YOU know any leftists from Ohio that went marching around then ran over
a protestor and killed he? Here is your chance to use false equivalency
and say the Leftists are as bad as the Rightwingers.
<crickets>
I answer your questions, but you won't answer mine.
Post by Steve Barber
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by Steve Barber
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by Steve Barber
thing and aren't the least bit subtle about it. It's the left who have
I am not an actor. I played King Kasper in a musical play, but that was
more as a singer than an actor.
Where did I say you are an actor--or anyone else for that matter! You
need to read that again.
Read it again. Some idiot denied that the Russians hired actors. Maybe
the same idiot who denied that Trump hired actors to appear as a crowd
and his event to announce his candidacy.
Citation please
Oh, so you can't admit ANYTHING about Trump.
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/thr-esq/donald-trump-escapes-fec-punishment-paid-actors-at-presidential-announcement-966428
Post by Steve Barber
Post by Anthony Marsh
His campaign would later admit paying $12,000, but given the "modest"
amount, the FEC is exercising discretion and dismissing a complaint he
violated reporting rules.
Citation please
I did already.
Post by Steve Barber
Post by Anthony Marsh
As Donald Trump gets sworn in as the 45th president of the United States,
the Federal Election Commission has closed the chapter on an investigation
on how his presidential campaign started.
Citation please
IBID
Post by Steve Barber
Post by Anthony Marsh
On June 16, 2015, Trump announced he was running for the highest office.
As first detailed in The Hollywood Reporter, the campaign hired actors to
cheer him on. That drew public attention, although it was later
overshadowed by his harsh pronouncement of Mexicans as "rapists." At the
time, Trump's then campaign manager Corey Lewandowski denied paying anyone
to attend the event and said that he had never heard of Extra Mile or
Gotham Government Relations, the two companies that THR reported were
involved in putting out a casting call for people to attend the event.
A few months later, with no disclosures related to this, the American
Democracy Legal Fund filed a complaint, alleging that Trump's campaign
violated the reporting provisions of the Federal Election Campaign Act of
1971.
Donald J. Trump for President, Inc., then admitted paying Gotham $12,000
on Oct. 8, 2015. Gotham reported to the FCC it hired Extra Mile as a
subcontractor to provide support at Trump's announcement. Still, this
doesn't settle the issue because of the allegation that Trump may have
accepted prohibited or excessive contributions from the two companies
involved with hiring the actors.
According to a FEC general counsel's report in March 2016, made public
Thursday, it was "clear" that Trump's campaign "did not pay Gotham for its
services for almost four months after the event, and did not report the
transaction for more than seven months after the event. Thus, Gotham's
apparent extension of credit to the Committee for the services rendered at
the June candidacy announcement may constitute an excessive or prohibited
contribution, and the Committee failed to report the amount it owed Gotham
as a debt."
"However," the report continued, "because of the seemingly modest amount
at issue, we recommend that the Commission exercise its prosecutorial
discretion and dismiss the allegation ..."
That's just what the FEC has done, quietly announcing its decision to
close the file on the complaint on the eve of Trump's inauguration.
Citation for all please
Learn how to click on links and use Google.
Post by Steve Barber
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by Steve Barber
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by Steve Barber
divided America, and it's the left are the violent ones and it's the left
So, you also like to play Trump's game of false equivalency? Which violent
ones on the left? You aren't old enough to remember the Weather
Underground. Again, if you know any violent leftists it is your duty as a
citizen to call the FBI and give them the names. Or are you covering up
for them?
Why would I be "covering up" for leftists, Marsh? If I had the
opportunity to turn in leftists I wouldn't waste a second in doing so!
We all know that you are a leftist here, you don't have to tell us that.
It's written all over your constant postings and in everything you say.
Well, did you need a college education to figure that out?
Proud of being a leftist. Go figure. Why don't you move to Russia?
They'd welcome you with open arms.
Post by Anthony Marsh
Again, I said, if YOU want to play the false equivalency game, pick up
the phone and turn in some of these leftwing wing terrorists that you
think are as dangerous as the neo-Nazis.
I'm not playing any game.
Yes, you are. Playing Trump's game of false equivalency.
"I'm not the Puppet, you're the Puppet."
Post by Steve Barber
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by Steve Barber
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by Steve Barber
who overtook the Democratic party. "Fools"? Look into the mirror, Marsh.
FYI, the left was always dominant in the Democratic Party. That is nothing
new. Bernie tried to push it more to the left and was rejected. I am a
Bernie supporter, but the Democratic Party was not yet prepared to go that
far to the left.
Take it up with Biden.
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by Steve Barber
Take that up with Biden. He is the person who said the leftists took
over the Democratic party in 1972.
So what? Was it exactly 1972? Was it in reaction to Nixon.
Again, I reject the lie that JFK was not a leftist.
You attack JFK BECAUSE he was a leftist.
again, ask Biden. He said it!
So what
Biden did not say that the Democractic party never had Liberals before.
Post by Steve Barber
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by Steve Barber
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by Steve Barber
That which you see defines the word.
Hey, man, that's like almost philosophical. Luckily you don't know what
it means.
I know a heck of a lot more than you think, Marsh. You've been warned.
Oh, so now you want to do Cyber Threats and McAdams allows you to make
them here?
"Threats"? LOL!!! Am I that much of a "threat" to you, Marsh by just
saying the words " I know a lot more than you think, Marsh. You've been
warned"? What, exactly is "threatening" about it?
"YOUuve been warned" is a Cyber Threat.
Prove it, Marsh. Show me where it says that the words "You've been
warned" is considered a Cyber threat.
Court decisions.
Post by Steve Barber
By the way...you claim that trolls are people who only use aliases, in
No, silly. I just said that some Commodore BBS only used aliases. Learn
ENglish. Go back and finish grammar school.
Post by Steve Barber
another thread. Nothing could be further from the truth. Try Googling it
once. You will see that a troll can be anyone, just like you. Here's how
Webster Dictionary defines the word. Note that it says *NOTHING* limiting
Well, gee if you look at the wrong page you can see that a Troll is a
mythological creature, maybe even see the movie. We were talking about
Internet trolls. Stay on topic.
Post by Steve Barber
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/troll
a : to antagonize (others) online by deliberately posting inflammatory, irrelevant, or offensive comments or other disruptive content
??? trolls engage in the most outrageous and offensive behaviors possible???all the better to troll you with. ???Whitney Phillips
b : to act as a troll (see 3troll 2) on (a forum, site, etc.)
??? is also notorious, for trolling message boards on the Internet, posting offensive material he himself has written and then suing anyone who responds in agreement. ???Mark Hemingway
c : to harass, criticize, or antagonize (someone) especially by provocatively disparaging or mocking public statements, postings, or acts.
Hmmmmm...I don't see anything about a troll being limited to someone who
only uses aliases. You made that up.
And I never said that. False charge.
Not a "false charge". This YOUR post, your words, your definition of
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.assassination.jfk/5gHMvv1LAjc/ICKplDKOAAAJ
Silly. Don't you even know the definition of Troll?
A NEW poster using an alias who attacks the regulars in a newsgroup. You
can't be a Troll. You use your real name. I can't be a troll. I use my
real name. We have both been in this newsgroup for over 20 years. We are
the regulars. Trolls attack the regulars. And hide behind aliases. Did you
notice that the Russian Troll farm was clever enough to set up its own US
server and synch the US posting times with the Russian bot times so that
they LOOKED like Americans? That's why I reminded YOU about YOUR time zone
which I KNOW. If I see you posting at 3AM I'm going to worry about you and
call your doctor.
Hard to tell who said what when you don't know how to post properly.
I think you were trying to quote my mesage to .John reassuring him that
I do not call him a Troll. He is a ragular. He is the Moderator. He has
used his alias in public, bur not here. The definition does not rest on
only one factor.
Ummm...that's why I posted the link to your actual post, Marsh.

You just won't admit it that you said that only people with aliases are
trolls. Well, it's right there in plain English, posted right here in
this newsgroup on February 18, 2017. Don't bother to deny it. You said it.
That's all there is to it.

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.assassination.jfk/5gHMvv1LAjc/ICKplDKOAAAJ
John McAdams
2018-02-18 01:01:02 UTC
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On 17 Feb 2018 09:19:12 -0500, Anthony Marsh
Post by Anthony Marsh
Bob Mueller made an excellent point in the indictments today which many
people here overlook. Some of the collusion was unwitting. As the KGB
used to say - useful idiots.
I have met John McAdams and I have talked to John McAdams in person.
I know he is not a Russian. But he has been enticed by the extreme
rightwing rhetoric of the Trump supporters and did not realize that they
are not his fellow Americans but actually are Russian agents taught to
mimic American hate groups and sow confusion.
So all Trump supporters were Russian agents?
Post by Anthony Marsh
Some of the trolls who post here hiding behind ridiculous aliases may
really just be Russian agents whose job is to use social media to sow
discord, distrust, and hatred.
And just who are the people most likely to be trolls? Look in the
mirror, Tony.
Post by Anthony Marsh
The fools you see shouting "Lock her up" are not real Americans, they
are actors hired by the Russians to stir up hatred to destroy the US.
So all of those people at Trump rallies were paid by the Russians.
Boy, did they have a big budget!

Here is a more sober rendering:

http://money.cnn.com/video/news/2018/02/16/rosenstein-russian-nationals-indictment-sot.cnnmoney/index.html

Note, the Russians sponsored both pro-Trump and anti-Trump rallies. In
one case both on the same day in New York.

.John
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http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/home.htm
John McAdams
2018-02-18 01:08:50 UTC
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On Sat, 17 Feb 2018 19:01:02 -0600, John McAdams
Post by John McAdams
On 17 Feb 2018 09:19:12 -0500, Anthony Marsh
Post by Anthony Marsh
Bob Mueller made an excellent point in the indictments today which many
people here overlook. Some of the collusion was unwitting. As the KGB
used to say - useful idiots.
I have met John McAdams and I have talked to John McAdams in person.
I know he is not a Russian. But he has been enticed by the extreme
rightwing rhetoric of the Trump supporters and did not realize that they
are not his fellow Americans but actually are Russian agents taught to
mimic American hate groups and sow confusion.
So all Trump supporters were Russian agents?
Post by Anthony Marsh
Some of the trolls who post here hiding behind ridiculous aliases may
really just be Russian agents whose job is to use social media to sow
discord, distrust, and hatred.
And just who are the people most likely to be trolls? Look in the
mirror, Tony.
Post by Anthony Marsh
The fools you see shouting "Lock her up" are not real Americans, they
are actors hired by the Russians to stir up hatred to destroy the US.
So all of those people at Trump rallies were paid by the Russians.
Boy, did they have a big budget!
http://money.cnn.com/video/news/2018/02/16/rosenstein-russian-nationals-indictment-sot.cnnmoney/index.html
Note, the Russians sponsored both pro-Trump and anti-Trump rallies. In
one case both on the same day in New York.
Here is the irony of the indictments.

The Russians are being accused of doing things to disrupt the system
that were the SAME THINGS AMERICANS WERE DOING, in much greater
numbers, and to much more effect then the Russians.

In short, the Russians were trying to screw with the U.S. political
system, but their efforts were pretty puny compared to what Americans
were already doing.

.John
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http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/home.htm
bigdog
2018-02-18 03:45:33 UTC
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Post by John McAdams
On Sat, 17 Feb 2018 19:01:02 -0600, John McAdams
Post by John McAdams
On 17 Feb 2018 09:19:12 -0500, Anthony Marsh
Post by Anthony Marsh
Bob Mueller made an excellent point in the indictments today which many
people here overlook. Some of the collusion was unwitting. As the KGB
used to say - useful idiots.
I have met John McAdams and I have talked to John McAdams in person.
I know he is not a Russian. But he has been enticed by the extreme
rightwing rhetoric of the Trump supporters and did not realize that they
are not his fellow Americans but actually are Russian agents taught to
mimic American hate groups and sow confusion.
So all Trump supporters were Russian agents?
Post by Anthony Marsh
Some of the trolls who post here hiding behind ridiculous aliases may
really just be Russian agents whose job is to use social media to sow
discord, distrust, and hatred.
And just who are the people most likely to be trolls? Look in the
mirror, Tony.
Post by Anthony Marsh
The fools you see shouting "Lock her up" are not real Americans, they
are actors hired by the Russians to stir up hatred to destroy the US.
So all of those people at Trump rallies were paid by the Russians.
Boy, did they have a big budget!
http://money.cnn.com/video/news/2018/02/16/rosenstein-russian-nationals-indictment-sot.cnnmoney/index.html
Note, the Russians sponsored both pro-Trump and anti-Trump rallies. In
one case both on the same day in New York.
Here is the irony of the indictments.
The Russians are being accused of doing things to disrupt the system
that were the SAME THINGS AMERICANS WERE DOING, in much greater
numbers, and to much more effect then the Russians.
In short, the Russians were trying to screw with the U.S. political
system, but their efforts were pretty puny compared to what Americans
were already doing.
Politics is a contact sport. We've meddled in other countries elections so
we shouldn't be surprised or angered by the fact other countries would
meddle in ours. I seriously doubt the Russians tipped the scales in favor
of Trump but if they did, it just means they cheated better than we did.
Obama tried to get Netanyahu dumped and failed. Hillary railed against
Putin and got payback. Now the Dems have nothing to do but whine about
their failures.
Anthony Marsh
2018-02-19 01:15:04 UTC
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Post by John McAdams
On Sat, 17 Feb 2018 19:01:02 -0600, John McAdams
Post by John McAdams
On 17 Feb 2018 09:19:12 -0500, Anthony Marsh
Post by Anthony Marsh
Bob Mueller made an excellent point in the indictments today which many
people here overlook. Some of the collusion was unwitting. As the KGB
used to say - useful idiots.
I have met John McAdams and I have talked to John McAdams in person.
I know he is not a Russian. But he has been enticed by the extreme
rightwing rhetoric of the Trump supporters and did not realize that they
are not his fellow Americans but actually are Russian agents taught to
mimic American hate groups and sow confusion.
So all Trump supporters were Russian agents?
Post by Anthony Marsh
Some of the trolls who post here hiding behind ridiculous aliases may
really just be Russian agents whose job is to use social media to sow
discord, distrust, and hatred.
And just who are the people most likely to be trolls? Look in the
mirror, Tony.
Post by Anthony Marsh
The fools you see shouting "Lock her up" are not real Americans, they
are actors hired by the Russians to stir up hatred to destroy the US.
So all of those people at Trump rallies were paid by the Russians.
Boy, did they have a big budget!
http://money.cnn.com/video/news/2018/02/16/rosenstein-russian-nationals-indictment-sot.cnnmoney/index.html
Note, the Russians sponsored both pro-Trump and anti-Trump rallies. In
one case both on the same day in New York.
Here is the irony of the indictments.
The Russians are being accused of doing things to disrupt the system
that were the SAME THINGS AMERICANS WERE DOING, in much greater
numbers, and to much more effect then the Russians.
In short, the Russians were trying to screw with the U.S. political
system, but their efforts were pretty puny compared to what Americans
were already doing.
Politics is a contact sport. We've meddled in other countries elections so
Of course. We have a long history no matter who was President. The Diem
Coup or the Shah Coup, Panama, etc.
Post by bigdog
we shouldn't be surprised or angered by the fact other countries would
meddle in ours. I seriously doubt the Russians tipped the scales in favor
So again with the false equivalency. It's ok for them to attack us because
we attacked them? Yes, I was the ONLY one here smart enough to point out
that the US invaded Russia. But how far back do you want to go? Ever hear
of something called treaties where we agree to not attack each other
again? You think it's OK to drop nuclear weapons on Japan so therefor it's
OK for North Korea to drop nuclear weapons on the US?
Post by bigdog
of Trump but if they did, it just means they cheated better than we did.
UH?
Post by bigdog
Obama tried to get Netanyahu dumped and failed. Hillary railed against
Putin and got payback. Now the Dems have nothing to do but whine about
their failures.
Hillary did not have the power to overthrow Putin.
False equivalency.
mainframetech
2018-02-19 00:57:27 UTC
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Post by John McAdams
On Sat, 17 Feb 2018 19:01:02 -0600, John McAdams
Post by John McAdams
On 17 Feb 2018 09:19:12 -0500, Anthony Marsh
Post by Anthony Marsh
Bob Mueller made an excellent point in the indictments today which many
people here overlook. Some of the collusion was unwitting. As the KGB
used to say - useful idiots.
I have met John McAdams and I have talked to John McAdams in person.
I know he is not a Russian. But he has been enticed by the extreme
rightwing rhetoric of the Trump supporters and did not realize that they
are not his fellow Americans but actually are Russian agents taught to
mimic American hate groups and sow confusion.
So all Trump supporters were Russian agents?
Post by Anthony Marsh
Some of the trolls who post here hiding behind ridiculous aliases may
really just be Russian agents whose job is to use social media to sow
discord, distrust, and hatred.
And just who are the people most likely to be trolls? Look in the
mirror, Tony.
Post by Anthony Marsh
The fools you see shouting "Lock her up" are not real Americans, they
are actors hired by the Russians to stir up hatred to destroy the US.
So all of those people at Trump rallies were paid by the Russians.
Boy, did they have a big budget!
http://money.cnn.com/video/news/2018/02/16/rosenstein-russian-nationals-indictment-sot.cnnmoney/index.html
Note, the Russians sponsored both pro-Trump and anti-Trump rallies. In
one case both on the same day in New York.
Here is the irony of the indictments.
The Russians are being accused of doing things to disrupt the system
that were the SAME THINGS AMERICANS WERE DOING, in much greater
numbers, and to much more effect then the Russians.
In short, the Russians were trying to screw with the U.S. political
system, but their efforts were pretty puny compared to what Americans
were already doing.
.John
-----------------------
http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/home.htm
If that were true, we failed at getting Putin's enemies elected in
Russia, but they seem to have been effective here in electing Trump, the
least popular of the 2 candidates.

Chris
Anthony Marsh
2018-02-19 21:22:14 UTC
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Post by John McAdams
On Sat, 17 Feb 2018 19:01:02 -0600, John McAdams
Post by John McAdams
On 17 Feb 2018 09:19:12 -0500, Anthony Marsh
Post by Anthony Marsh
Bob Mueller made an excellent point in the indictments today which many
people here overlook. Some of the collusion was unwitting. As the KGB
used to say - useful idiots.
I have met John McAdams and I have talked to John McAdams in person.
I know he is not a Russian. But he has been enticed by the extreme
rightwing rhetoric of the Trump supporters and did not realize that they
are not his fellow Americans but actually are Russian agents taught to
mimic American hate groups and sow confusion.
So all Trump supporters were Russian agents?
Post by Anthony Marsh
Some of the trolls who post here hiding behind ridiculous aliases may
really just be Russian agents whose job is to use social media to sow
discord, distrust, and hatred.
And just who are the people most likely to be trolls? Look in the
mirror, Tony.
Post by Anthony Marsh
The fools you see shouting "Lock her up" are not real Americans, they
are actors hired by the Russians to stir up hatred to destroy the US.
So all of those people at Trump rallies were paid by the Russians.
Boy, did they have a big budget!
http://money.cnn.com/video/news/2018/02/16/rosenstein-russian-nationals-indictment-sot.cnnmoney/index.html
Note, the Russians sponsored both pro-Trump and anti-Trump rallies. In
one case both on the same day in New York.
Here is the irony of the indictments.
The Russians are being accused of doing things to disrupt the system
that were the SAME THINGS AMERICANS WERE DOING, in much greater
numbers, and to much more effect then the Russians.
In short, the Russians were trying to screw with the U.S. political
system, but their efforts were pretty puny compared to what Americans
were already doing.
.John
-----------------------
http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/home.htm
If that were true, we failed at getting Putin's enemies elected in
Russia, but they seem to have been effective here in electing Trump, the
least popular of the 2 candidates.
Maybe because Putin either killed them or put them in jail.
That's why Trump chanted "Lock her up." Because he knew he couldn't beat
Hillary in a fair election.
Post by mainframetech
Chris
bigdog
2018-02-20 20:49:46 UTC
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Post by John McAdams
On Sat, 17 Feb 2018 19:01:02 -0600, John McAdams
Post by John McAdams
On 17 Feb 2018 09:19:12 -0500, Anthony Marsh
Post by Anthony Marsh
Bob Mueller made an excellent point in the indictments today which many
people here overlook. Some of the collusion was unwitting. As the KGB
used to say - useful idiots.
I have met John McAdams and I have talked to John McAdams in person.
I know he is not a Russian. But he has been enticed by the extreme
rightwing rhetoric of the Trump supporters and did not realize that they
are not his fellow Americans but actually are Russian agents taught to
mimic American hate groups and sow confusion.
So all Trump supporters were Russian agents?
Post by Anthony Marsh
Some of the trolls who post here hiding behind ridiculous aliases may
really just be Russian agents whose job is to use social media to sow
discord, distrust, and hatred.
And just who are the people most likely to be trolls? Look in the
mirror, Tony.
Post by Anthony Marsh
The fools you see shouting "Lock her up" are not real Americans, they
are actors hired by the Russians to stir up hatred to destroy the US.
So all of those people at Trump rallies were paid by the Russians.
Boy, did they have a big budget!
http://money.cnn.com/video/news/2018/02/16/rosenstein-russian-nationals-indictment-sot.cnnmoney/index.html
Note, the Russians sponsored both pro-Trump and anti-Trump rallies. In
one case both on the same day in New York.
Here is the irony of the indictments.
The Russians are being accused of doing things to disrupt the system
that were the SAME THINGS AMERICANS WERE DOING, in much greater
numbers, and to much more effect then the Russians.
In short, the Russians were trying to screw with the U.S. political
system, but their efforts were pretty puny compared to what Americans
were already doing.
.John
-----------------------
http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/home.htm
If that were true, we failed at getting Putin's enemies elected in
Russia, but they seem to have been effective here in electing Trump, the
least popular of the 2 candidates.
So you just assume Russian meddling was responsible for altering the
outcome of the election. The Mueller indictment said it found no evidence
that was the case.
mainframetech
2018-02-21 18:57:41 UTC
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Post by mainframetech
Post by John McAdams
On Sat, 17 Feb 2018 19:01:02 -0600, John McAdams
Post by John McAdams
On 17 Feb 2018 09:19:12 -0500, Anthony Marsh
Post by Anthony Marsh
Bob Mueller made an excellent point in the indictments today which many
people here overlook. Some of the collusion was unwitting. As the KGB
used to say - useful idiots.
I have met John McAdams and I have talked to John McAdams in person.
I know he is not a Russian. But he has been enticed by the extreme
rightwing rhetoric of the Trump supporters and did not realize that they
are not his fellow Americans but actually are Russian agents taught to
mimic American hate groups and sow confusion.
So all Trump supporters were Russian agents?
Post by Anthony Marsh
Some of the trolls who post here hiding behind ridiculous aliases may
really just be Russian agents whose job is to use social media to sow
discord, distrust, and hatred.
And just who are the people most likely to be trolls? Look in the
mirror, Tony.
Post by Anthony Marsh
The fools you see shouting "Lock her up" are not real Americans, they
are actors hired by the Russians to stir up hatred to destroy the US.
So all of those people at Trump rallies were paid by the Russians.
Boy, did they have a big budget!
http://money.cnn.com/video/news/2018/02/16/rosenstein-russian-nationals-indictment-sot.cnnmoney/index.html
Note, the Russians sponsored both pro-Trump and anti-Trump rallies. In
one case both on the same day in New York.
Here is the irony of the indictments.
The Russians are being accused of doing things to disrupt the system
that were the SAME THINGS AMERICANS WERE DOING, in much greater
numbers, and to much more effect then the Russians.
In short, the Russians were trying to screw with the U.S. political
system, but their efforts were pretty puny compared to what Americans
were already doing.
.John
-----------------------
http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/home.htm
If that were true, we failed at getting Putin's enemies elected in
Russia, but they seem to have been effective here in electing Trump, the
least popular of the 2 candidates.
So you just assume Russian meddling was responsible for altering the
outcome of the election. The Mueller indictment said it found no evidence
that was the case.
That was Rosenstein's way of avoiding saying Trump was at fault. And
the indictments did NOT say it found no evidence. Rosenstein said that
THIS indictment doesn't say there was collusion. It didn't say anything
about future indictments. Amazing how you parrot Trump as if he knew
something! No evidence, what laugh!

Chris
bigdog
2018-02-23 00:02:06 UTC
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Post by John McAdams
On Sat, 17 Feb 2018 19:01:02 -0600, John McAdams
Post by John McAdams
On 17 Feb 2018 09:19:12 -0500, Anthony Marsh
Post by Anthony Marsh
Bob Mueller made an excellent point in the indictments today which many
people here overlook. Some of the collusion was unwitting. As the KGB
used to say - useful idiots.
I have met John McAdams and I have talked to John McAdams in person.
I know he is not a Russian. But he has been enticed by the extreme
rightwing rhetoric of the Trump supporters and did not realize that they
are not his fellow Americans but actually are Russian agents taught to
mimic American hate groups and sow confusion.
So all Trump supporters were Russian agents?
Post by Anthony Marsh
Some of the trolls who post here hiding behind ridiculous aliases may
really just be Russian agents whose job is to use social media to sow
discord, distrust, and hatred.
And just who are the people most likely to be trolls? Look in the
mirror, Tony.
Post by Anthony Marsh
The fools you see shouting "Lock her up" are not real Americans, they
are actors hired by the Russians to stir up hatred to destroy the US.
So all of those people at Trump rallies were paid by the Russians.
Boy, did they have a big budget!
http://money.cnn.com/video/news/2018/02/16/rosenstein-russian-nationals-indictment-sot.cnnmoney/index.html
Note, the Russians sponsored both pro-Trump and anti-Trump rallies. In
one case both on the same day in New York.
Here is the irony of the indictments.
The Russians are being accused of doing things to disrupt the system
that were the SAME THINGS AMERICANS WERE DOING, in much greater
numbers, and to much more effect then the Russians.
In short, the Russians were trying to screw with the U.S. political
system, but their efforts were pretty puny compared to what Americans
were already doing.
.John
-----------------------
http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/home.htm
If that were true, we failed at getting Putin's enemies elected in
Russia, but they seem to have been effective here in electing Trump, the
least popular of the 2 candidates.
So you just assume Russian meddling was responsible for altering the
outcome of the election. The Mueller indictment said it found no evidence
that was the case.
That was Rosenstein's way of avoiding saying Trump was at fault. And
the indictments did NOT say it found no evidence. Rosenstein said that
THIS indictment doesn't say there was collusion. It didn't say anything
about future indictments. Amazing how you parrot Trump as if he knew
something! No evidence, what laugh!
Really? Tell us what is in the indictment that indicates any American
knowingly colluded with Russian operatives. Just one measly example.
Anthony Marsh
2018-02-24 03:44:54 UTC
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Post by John McAdams
On Sat, 17 Feb 2018 19:01:02 -0600, John McAdams
Post by John McAdams
On 17 Feb 2018 09:19:12 -0500, Anthony Marsh
Post by Anthony Marsh
Bob Mueller made an excellent point in the indictments today which many
people here overlook. Some of the collusion was unwitting. As the KGB
used to say - useful idiots.
I have met John McAdams and I have talked to John McAdams in person.
I know he is not a Russian. But he has been enticed by the extreme
rightwing rhetoric of the Trump supporters and did not realize that they
are not his fellow Americans but actually are Russian agents taught to
mimic American hate groups and sow confusion.
So all Trump supporters were Russian agents?
Post by Anthony Marsh
Some of the trolls who post here hiding behind ridiculous aliases may
really just be Russian agents whose job is to use social media to sow
discord, distrust, and hatred.
And just who are the people most likely to be trolls? Look in the
mirror, Tony.
Post by Anthony Marsh
The fools you see shouting "Lock her up" are not real Americans, they
are actors hired by the Russians to stir up hatred to destroy the US.
So all of those people at Trump rallies were paid by the Russians.
Boy, did they have a big budget!
http://money.cnn.com/video/news/2018/02/16/rosenstein-russian-nationals-indictment-sot.cnnmoney/index.html
Note, the Russians sponsored both pro-Trump and anti-Trump rallies. In
one case both on the same day in New York.
Here is the irony of the indictments.
The Russians are being accused of doing things to disrupt the system
that were the SAME THINGS AMERICANS WERE DOING, in much greater
numbers, and to much more effect then the Russians.
In short, the Russians were trying to screw with the U.S. political
system, but their efforts were pretty puny compared to what Americans
were already doing.
.John
-----------------------
http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/home.htm
If that were true, we failed at getting Putin's enemies elected in
Russia, but they seem to have been effective here in electing Trump, the
least popular of the 2 candidates.
So you just assume Russian meddling was responsible for altering the
outcome of the election. The Mueller indictment said it found no evidence
that was the case.
That was Rosenstein's way of avoiding saying Trump was at fault. And
the indictments did NOT say it found no evidence. Rosenstein said that
THIS indictment doesn't say there was collusion. It didn't say anything
about future indictments. Amazing how you parrot Trump as if he knew
something! No evidence, what laugh!
Really? Tell us what is in the indictment that indicates any American
knowingly colluded with Russian operatives. Just one measly example.
We're not charging collusion right now, only conspiracy.
We have t flip a few more people.
mainframetech
2018-02-24 21:54:28 UTC
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Post by John McAdams
On Sat, 17 Feb 2018 19:01:02 -0600, John McAdams
Post by John McAdams
On 17 Feb 2018 09:19:12 -0500, Anthony Marsh
Post by Anthony Marsh
Bob Mueller made an excellent point in the indictments today which many
people here overlook. Some of the collusion was unwitting. As the KGB
used to say - useful idiots.
I have met John McAdams and I have talked to John McAdams in person.
I know he is not a Russian. But he has been enticed by the extreme
rightwing rhetoric of the Trump supporters and did not realize that they
are not his fellow Americans but actually are Russian agents taught to
mimic American hate groups and sow confusion.
So all Trump supporters were Russian agents?
Post by Anthony Marsh
Some of the trolls who post here hiding behind ridiculous aliases may
really just be Russian agents whose job is to use social media to sow
discord, distrust, and hatred.
And just who are the people most likely to be trolls? Look in the
mirror, Tony.
Post by Anthony Marsh
The fools you see shouting "Lock her up" are not real Americans, they
are actors hired by the Russians to stir up hatred to destroy the US.
So all of those people at Trump rallies were paid by the Russians.
Boy, did they have a big budget!
http://money.cnn.com/video/news/2018/02/16/rosenstein-russian-nationals-indictment-sot.cnnmoney/index.html
Note, the Russians sponsored both pro-Trump and anti-Trump rallies. In
one case both on the same day in New York.
Here is the irony of the indictments.
The Russians are being accused of doing things to disrupt the system
that were the SAME THINGS AMERICANS WERE DOING, in much greater
numbers, and to much more effect then the Russians.
In short, the Russians were trying to screw with the U.S. political
system, but their efforts were pretty puny compared to what Americans
were already doing.
.John
-----------------------
http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/home.htm
If that were true, we failed at getting Putin's enemies elected in
Russia, but they seem to have been effective here in electing Trump, the
least popular of the 2 candidates.
So you just assume Russian meddling was responsible for altering the
outcome of the election. The Mueller indictment said it found no evidence
that was the case.
That was Rosenstein's way of avoiding saying Trump was at fault. And
the indictments did NOT say it found no evidence. Rosenstein said that
THIS indictment doesn't say there was collusion. It didn't say anything
about future indictments. Amazing how you parrot Trump as if he knew
something! No evidence, what laugh!
Really? Tell us what is in the indictment that indicates any American
knowingly colluded with Russian operatives. Just one measly example.
You think Mueller tells me all his secrets? You're living in a fairy
tale if you think Mueller doesn't have that evidence tucked away for the
right time. Why, the connection with The son-in-law being overjoyed at
getting some Russian dirt on Hillary and the meeting he went to, says
there was collusion right then. Or let's call it 'conspiracy'.

But when you have so many persons all in the same Trump campaign team,
and EVERY ONE of them lied that they never talked with Russians, and then
later they are all found out, well, that looks bad for them.

Chris
bigdog
2018-02-27 00:21:40 UTC
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Post by mainframetech
Post by John McAdams
On Sat, 17 Feb 2018 19:01:02 -0600, John McAdams
Post by John McAdams
On 17 Feb 2018 09:19:12 -0500, Anthony Marsh
Post by Anthony Marsh
Bob Mueller made an excellent point in the indictments today which many
people here overlook. Some of the collusion was unwitting. As the KGB
used to say - useful idiots.
I have met John McAdams and I have talked to John McAdams in person.
I know he is not a Russian. But he has been enticed by the extreme
rightwing rhetoric of the Trump supporters and did not realize that they
are not his fellow Americans but actually are Russian agents taught to
mimic American hate groups and sow confusion.
So all Trump supporters were Russian agents?
Post by Anthony Marsh
Some of the trolls who post here hiding behind ridiculous aliases may
really just be Russian agents whose job is to use social media to sow
discord, distrust, and hatred.
And just who are the people most likely to be trolls? Look in the
mirror, Tony.
Post by Anthony Marsh
The fools you see shouting "Lock her up" are not real Americans, they
are actors hired by the Russians to stir up hatred to destroy the US.
So all of those people at Trump rallies were paid by the Russians.
Boy, did they have a big budget!
http://money.cnn.com/video/news/2018/02/16/rosenstein-russian-nationals-indictment-sot.cnnmoney/index.html
Note, the Russians sponsored both pro-Trump and anti-Trump rallies. In
one case both on the same day in New York.
Here is the irony of the indictments.
The Russians are being accused of doing things to disrupt the system
that were the SAME THINGS AMERICANS WERE DOING, in much greater
numbers, and to much more effect then the Russians.
In short, the Russians were trying to screw with the U.S. political
system, but their efforts were pretty puny compared to what Americans
were already doing.
.John
-----------------------
http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/home.htm
If that were true, we failed at getting Putin's enemies elected in
Russia, but they seem to have been effective here in electing Trump, the
least popular of the 2 candidates.
So you just assume Russian meddling was responsible for altering the
outcome of the election. The Mueller indictment said it found no evidence
that was the case.
That was Rosenstein's way of avoiding saying Trump was at fault. And
the indictments did NOT say it found no evidence. Rosenstein said that
THIS indictment doesn't say there was collusion. It didn't say anything
about future indictments. Amazing how you parrot Trump as if he knew
something! No evidence, what laugh!
Really? Tell us what is in the indictment that indicates any American
knowingly colluded with Russian operatives. Just one measly example.
You think Mueller tells me all his secrets?
You act as if he does. You keep telling us the other shoe is going to
drop. How would you know that if Mueller wasn't keeping you up to date on
his progress. Surely you wouldn't just make something like that up.
Post by mainframetech
You're living in a fairy
tale if you think Mueller doesn't have that evidence tucked away for the
right time.
So after telling us Mueller doesn't keep you informed of what he has you
immediately turn around and tell us Mueller has more than what he has
shown. I don't suppose you can even see the inconsistency.
Post by mainframetech
Why, the connection with The son-in-law being overjoyed at
getting some Russian dirt on Hillary and the meeting he went to, says
there was collusion right then. Or let's call it 'conspiracy'.
Was that in Mueller's indictment?
Post by mainframetech
But when you have so many persons all in the same Trump campaign team,
and EVERY ONE of them lied that they never talked with Russians, and then
later they are all found out, well, that looks bad for them.
Is that what Mueller told you?
mainframetech
2018-02-28 00:47:23 UTC
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Post by John McAdams
On Sat, 17 Feb 2018 19:01:02 -0600, John McAdams
Post by John McAdams
On 17 Feb 2018 09:19:12 -0500, Anthony Marsh
Post by Anthony Marsh
Bob Mueller made an excellent point in the indictments today which many
people here overlook. Some of the collusion was unwitting. As the KGB
used to say - useful idiots.
I have met John McAdams and I have talked to John McAdams in person.
I know he is not a Russian. But he has been enticed by the extreme
rightwing rhetoric of the Trump supporters and did not realize that they
are not his fellow Americans but actually are Russian agents taught to
mimic American hate groups and sow confusion.
So all Trump supporters were Russian agents?
Post by Anthony Marsh
Some of the trolls who post here hiding behind ridiculous aliases may
really just be Russian agents whose job is to use social media to sow
discord, distrust, and hatred.
And just who are the people most likely to be trolls? Look in the
mirror, Tony.
Post by Anthony Marsh
The fools you see shouting "Lock her up" are not real Americans, they
are actors hired by the Russians to stir up hatred to destroy the US.
So all of those people at Trump rallies were paid by the Russians.
Boy, did they have a big budget!
http://money.cnn.com/video/news/2018/02/16/rosenstein-russian-nationals-indictment-sot.cnnmoney/index.html
Note, the Russians sponsored both pro-Trump and anti-Trump rallies. In
one case both on the same day in New York.
Here is the irony of the indictments.
The Russians are being accused of doing things to disrupt the system
that were the SAME THINGS AMERICANS WERE DOING, in much greater
numbers, and to much more effect then the Russians.
In short, the Russians were trying to screw with the U.S. political
system, but their efforts were pretty puny compared to what Americans
were already doing.
.John
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http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/home.htm
If that were true, we failed at getting Putin's enemies elected in
Russia, but they seem to have been effective here in electing Trump, the
least popular of the 2 candidates.
So you just assume Russian meddling was responsible for altering the
outcome of the election. The Mueller indictment said it found no evidence
that was the case.
That was Rosenstein's way of avoiding saying Trump was at fault. And
the indictments did NOT say it found no evidence. Rosenstein said that
THIS indictment doesn't say there was collusion. It didn't say anything
about future indictments. Amazing how you parrot Trump as if he knew
something! No evidence, what laugh!
Really? Tell us what is in the indictment that indicates any American
knowingly colluded with Russian operatives. Just one measly example.
You think Mueller tells me all his secrets?
You act as if he does. You keep telling us the other shoe is going to
drop. How would you know that if Mueller wasn't keeping you up to date on
his progress. Surely you wouldn't just make something like that up.
WRONG! I act like many people do, which is to say that certain things
are OBVIOUS to some people. The fact that Mueller will find dirt on Trump
is a fargone conclusion to me. And don't complain about that, since you
act the same way about Oswald's guilt.
Post by bigdog
Post by mainframetech
You're living in a fairy
tale if you think Mueller doesn't have that evidence tucked away for the
right time.
So after telling us Mueller doesn't keep you informed of what he has you
immediately turn around and tell us Mueller has more than what he has
shown. I don't suppose you can even see the inconsistency.
There's no inconsistency, it's just your inability to think it through.
Mueller doesn't have to keep me informed, his actions do that, and the
fact that it's OBVIOUS that he has much evidence he hasn't unveiled yet.
Post by bigdog
Post by mainframetech
Why, the connection with The son-in-law being overjoyed at
getting some Russian dirt on Hillary and the meeting he went to, says
there was collusion right then. Or let's call it 'conspiracy'.
Was that in Mueller's indictment?
Doesn't need to be. Oswald's guilt is OBVIOUS to you, and Trump's is
to me.
Post by bigdog
Post by mainframetech
But when you have so many persons all in the same Trump campaign team,
and EVERY ONE of them lied that they never talked with Russians, and then
later they are all found out, well, that looks bad for them.
Is that what Mueller told you?
That's what was in the public news.

Chris
Anthony Marsh
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Post by John McAdams
On Sat, 17 Feb 2018 19:01:02 -0600, John McAdams
Post by John McAdams
On 17 Feb 2018 09:19:12 -0500, Anthony Marsh
Post by Anthony Marsh
Bob Mueller made an excellent point in the indictments today which many
people here overlook. Some of the collusion was unwitting. As the KGB
used to say - useful idiots.
I have met John McAdams and I have talked to John McAdams in person.
I know he is not a Russian. But he has been enticed by the extreme
rightwing rhetoric of the Trump supporters and did not realize that they
are not his fellow Americans but actually are Russian agents taught to
mimic American hate groups and sow confusion.
So all Trump supporters were Russian agents?
Post by Anthony Marsh
Some of the trolls who post here hiding behind ridiculous aliases may
really just be Russian agents whose job is to use social media to sow
discord, distrust, and hatred.
And just who are the people most likely to be trolls? Look in the
mirror, Tony.
Post by Anthony Marsh
The fools you see shouting "Lock her up" are not real Americans, they
are actors hired by the Russians to stir up hatred to destroy the US.
So all of those people at Trump rallies were paid by the Russians.
Boy, did they have a big budget!
http://money.cnn.com/video/news/2018/02/16/rosenstein-russian-nationals-indictment-sot.cnnmoney/index.html
Note, the Russians sponsored both pro-Trump and anti-Trump rallies. In
one case both on the same day in New York.
Here is the irony of the indictments.
The Russians are being accused of doing things to disrupt the system
that were the SAME THINGS AMERICANS WERE DOING, in much greater
numbers, and to much more effect then the Russians.
False. Your use of false equivalency marks you as a Trump supporter and
Putin apologist. The US never used the same tactics against Putin. Where
the Hell did you get that idea?
Post by John McAdams
In short, the Russians were trying to screw with the U.S. political
system, but their efforts were pretty puny compared to what Americans
were already doing.
Where? Show me. I bet you can point to the Diem Coup and the Shah Coup and
Panama. Those are not the same types of attacks. They were not attacks on
the election system. Show us the same type of social media and
infiltration attacks by the CIA on the Russian elections. Maybe you know
of some from your CIA contacts, but are not allowed to reveal them. I
would think this would qualify as a class in Political Science. Teach.
Post by John McAdams
.John
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slats
2018-02-19 01:20:47 UTC
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Post by John McAdams
On Sat, 17 Feb 2018 19:01:02 -0600, John McAdams
Post by John McAdams
On 17 Feb 2018 09:19:12 -0500, Anthony Marsh
Post by Anthony Marsh
Bob Mueller made an excellent point in the indictments today which
many people here overlook. Some of the collusion was unwitting. As
the KGB used to say - useful idiots.
I have met John McAdams and I have talked to John McAdams in person.
I know he is not a Russian. But he has been enticed by the extreme
rightwing rhetoric of the Trump supporters and did not realize that
they are not his fellow Americans but actually are Russian agents
taught to mimic American hate groups and sow confusion.
So all Trump supporters were Russian agents?
Post by Anthony Marsh
Some of the trolls who post here hiding behind ridiculous aliases may
really just be Russian agents whose job is to use social media to sow
discord, distrust, and hatred.
And just who are the people most likely to be trolls? Look in the
mirror, Tony.
Post by Anthony Marsh
The fools you see shouting "Lock her up" are not real Americans, they
are actors hired by the Russians to stir up hatred to destroy the US.
So all of those people at Trump rallies were paid by the Russians.
Boy, did they have a big budget!
http://money.cnn.com/video/news/2018/02/16/rosenstein-russian-nationals
-indictment-sot.cnnmoney/index.html
Note, the Russians sponsored both pro-Trump and anti-Trump rallies. In
one case both on the same day in New York.
Here is the irony of the indictments.
The Russians are being accused of doing things to disrupt the system
that were the SAME THINGS AMERICANS WERE DOING, in much greater
numbers, and to much more effect then the Russians.
In short, the Russians were trying to screw with the U.S. political
system, but their efforts were pretty puny compared to what Americans
were already doing.
.John
-----------------------
http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/home.htm
No kidding. In the Georgia special election of June 2017, Hollywood and
other left-wing special interests FLOODED the Dem candidate with cash in a
desperate attempt to influence the outcome in their favor. These were
elitist outsiders who had NO business sticking their nose in a local
election, yet stick they did.
Anthony Marsh
2018-02-19 21:19:26 UTC
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Post by slats
Post by John McAdams
On Sat, 17 Feb 2018 19:01:02 -0600, John McAdams
Post by John McAdams
On 17 Feb 2018 09:19:12 -0500, Anthony Marsh
Post by Anthony Marsh
Bob Mueller made an excellent point in the indictments today which
many people here overlook. Some of the collusion was unwitting. As
the KGB used to say - useful idiots.
I have met John McAdams and I have talked to John McAdams in person.
I know he is not a Russian. But he has been enticed by the extreme
rightwing rhetoric of the Trump supporters and did not realize that
they are not his fellow Americans but actually are Russian agents
taught to mimic American hate groups and sow confusion.
So all Trump supporters were Russian agents?
Post by Anthony Marsh
Some of the trolls who post here hiding behind ridiculous aliases may
really just be Russian agents whose job is to use social media to sow
discord, distrust, and hatred.
And just who are the people most likely to be trolls? Look in the
mirror, Tony.
Post by Anthony Marsh
The fools you see shouting "Lock her up" are not real Americans, they
are actors hired by the Russians to stir up hatred to destroy the US.
So all of those people at Trump rallies were paid by the Russians.
Boy, did they have a big budget!
http://money.cnn.com/video/news/2018/02/16/rosenstein-russian-nationals
-indictment-sot.cnnmoney/index.html
Note, the Russians sponsored both pro-Trump and anti-Trump rallies. In
one case both on the same day in New York.
Here is the irony of the indictments.
The Russians are being accused of doing things to disrupt the system
that were the SAME THINGS AMERICANS WERE DOING, in much greater
numbers, and to much more effect then the Russians.
In short, the Russians were trying to screw with the U.S. political
system, but their efforts were pretty puny compared to what Americans
were already doing.
.John
-----------------------
http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/home.htm
No kidding. In the Georgia special election of June 2017, Hollywood and
other left-wing special interests FLOODED the Dem candidate with cash in a
OMG. Hollywood is an intelligence agency like the Russians used?
False comparison. Do you have proof that the US government paid
Hollywood for that project? Any indictments?
No, just an over-active rightwing kook conspiracy imagination.
Post by slats
desperate attempt to influence the outcome in their favor. These were
elitist outsiders who had NO business sticking their nose in a local
election, yet stick they did.
Local election? Like Chicago or Milan?
You misuse words to create a false narrative.
John McAdams
2018-02-18 02:09:19 UTC
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On Sat, 17 Feb 2018 19:01:02 -0600, John McAdams
Post by John McAdams
On 17 Feb 2018 09:19:12 -0500, Anthony Marsh
Post by Anthony Marsh
Bob Mueller made an excellent point in the indictments today which many
people here overlook. Some of the collusion was unwitting. As the KGB
used to say - useful idiots.
I have met John McAdams and I have talked to John McAdams in person.
I know he is not a Russian. But he has been enticed by the extreme
rightwing rhetoric of the Trump supporters and did not realize that they
are not his fellow Americans but actually are Russian agents taught to
mimic American hate groups and sow confusion.
So all Trump supporters were Russian agents?
Post by Anthony Marsh
Some of the trolls who post here hiding behind ridiculous aliases may
really just be Russian agents whose job is to use social media to sow
discord, distrust, and hatred.
And just who are the people most likely to be trolls? Look in the
mirror, Tony.
Post by Anthony Marsh
The fools you see shouting "Lock her up" are not real Americans, they
are actors hired by the Russians to stir up hatred to destroy the US.
So all of those people at Trump rallies were paid by the Russians.
Boy, did they have a big budget!
http://money.cnn.com/video/news/2018/02/16/rosenstein-russian-nationals-indictment-sot.cnnmoney/index.html
Note, the Russians sponsored both pro-Trump and anti-Trump rallies. In
one case both on the same day in New York.
The actual indictment can be read here:

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2018/02/16/read-robert-muellers-indictment-13-russian-nationals-election-meddling/346688002/

Some interesting points:

The Russians supported Trump, but also Bernie Sanders!

The Russians organized a pro-Hillary rally among Muslims.

BUT THE BIG QUESTION:

Just how effective was any of this? It clearly moved few (probably
virtually no) votes. But how many people turned out to the rallies
the Russians organized?

There is nothing in the indictment on this.

What they apparently did broke various laws, but did it have any
effect?

Or did it show the same fecklessness that so much of U.S. government
shows?

.John
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http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/home.htm
mainframetech
2018-02-19 00:56:50 UTC
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Post by John McAdams
On Sat, 17 Feb 2018 19:01:02 -0600, John McAdams
Post by John McAdams
On 17 Feb 2018 09:19:12 -0500, Anthony Marsh
Post by Anthony Marsh
Bob Mueller made an excellent point in the indictments today which many
people here overlook. Some of the collusion was unwitting. As the KGB
used to say - useful idiots.
I have met John McAdams and I have talked to John McAdams in person.
I know he is not a Russian. But he has been enticed by the extreme
rightwing rhetoric of the Trump supporters and did not realize that they
are not his fellow Americans but actually are Russian agents taught to
mimic American hate groups and sow confusion.
So all Trump supporters were Russian agents?
Post by Anthony Marsh
Some of the trolls who post here hiding behind ridiculous aliases may
really just be Russian agents whose job is to use social media to sow
discord, distrust, and hatred.
And just who are the people most likely to be trolls? Look in the
mirror, Tony.
Post by Anthony Marsh
The fools you see shouting "Lock her up" are not real Americans, they
are actors hired by the Russians to stir up hatred to destroy the US.
So all of those people at Trump rallies were paid by the Russians.
Boy, did they have a big budget!
http://money.cnn.com/video/news/2018/02/16/rosenstein-russian-nationals-indictment-sot.cnnmoney/index.html
Note, the Russians sponsored both pro-Trump and anti-Trump rallies. In
one case both on the same day in New York.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2018/02/16/read-robert-muellers-indictment-13-russian-nationals-election-meddling/346688002/
The Russians supported Trump, but also Bernie Sanders!
The Russians organized a pro-Hillary rally among Muslims.
Since there are many in the US that hate Muslims thinking they were
responsible for 9/11, they were faked out to vote for other than Hillary
and that was Trump!
Post by John McAdams
Just how effective was any of this? It clearly moved few (probably
virtually no) votes. But how many people turned out to the rallies
the Russians organized?
The Russians played Americans, and had rallies for Trump. How many do
you think they convinced to vote for Trump, thinking he would be good
because he was different?
Post by John McAdams
There is nothing in the indictment on this.
What they apparently did broke various laws, but did it have any
effect?
Probably a large effect, since they did it well, and they weren't
thought to be Russians, but Americans.
Post by John McAdams
Or did it show the same fecklessness that so much of U.S. government
shows?
.John
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US government is very effective, only for themselves, not their
constituents.

Chris
Anthony Marsh
2018-02-19 01:17:07 UTC
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Post by John McAdams
On Sat, 17 Feb 2018 19:01:02 -0600, John McAdams
Post by John McAdams
On 17 Feb 2018 09:19:12 -0500, Anthony Marsh
Post by Anthony Marsh
Bob Mueller made an excellent point in the indictments today which many
people here overlook. Some of the collusion was unwitting. As the KGB
used to say - useful idiots.
I have met John McAdams and I have talked to John McAdams in person.
I know he is not a Russian. But he has been enticed by the extreme
rightwing rhetoric of the Trump supporters and did not realize that they
are not his fellow Americans but actually are Russian agents taught to
mimic American hate groups and sow confusion.
So all Trump supporters were Russian agents?
Post by Anthony Marsh
Some of the trolls who post here hiding behind ridiculous aliases may
really just be Russian agents whose job is to use social media to sow
discord, distrust, and hatred.
And just who are the people most likely to be trolls? Look in the
mirror, Tony.
Post by Anthony Marsh
The fools you see shouting "Lock her up" are not real Americans, they
are actors hired by the Russians to stir up hatred to destroy the US.
So all of those people at Trump rallies were paid by the Russians.
Boy, did they have a big budget!
http://money.cnn.com/video/news/2018/02/16/rosenstein-russian-nationals-indictment-sot.cnnmoney/index.html
Note, the Russians sponsored both pro-Trump and anti-Trump rallies. In
one case both on the same day in New York.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2018/02/16/read-robert-muellers-indictment-13-russian-nationals-election-meddling/346688002/
The Russians supported Trump, but also Bernie Sanders!
The Russians organized a pro-Hillary rally among Muslims.
Just how effective was any of this? It clearly moved few (probably
virtually no) votes. But how many people turned out to the rallies
the Russians organized?
There is nothing in the indictment on this.
What they apparently did broke various laws, but did it have any
effect?
Or did it show the same fecklessness that so much of U.S. government
shows?
.John
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http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/home.htm
Again, you ILLUSTRATE just how effective it was.
The point was not to elect Trump. They thought he'd lose and he did.
The point was to stir up hatred and distrust in Democracy.
Anthony Marsh
2018-02-19 01:20:15 UTC
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Post by John McAdams
On 17 Feb 2018 09:19:12 -0500, Anthony Marsh
Post by Anthony Marsh
Bob Mueller made an excellent point in the indictments today which many
people here overlook. Some of the collusion was unwitting. As the KGB
used to say - useful idiots.
I have met John McAdams and I have talked to John McAdams in person.
I know he is not a Russian. But he has been enticed by the extreme
rightwing rhetoric of the Trump supporters and did not realize that they
are not his fellow Americans but actually are Russian agents taught to
mimic American hate groups and sow confusion.
So all Trump supporters were Russian agents?
No, of course not. They never had that many Russian Agents.
Again, they used low information American as useful idiots.
Post by John McAdams
Post by Anthony Marsh
Some of the trolls who post here hiding behind ridiculous aliases may
really just be Russian agents whose job is to use social media to sow
discord, distrust, and hatred.
And just who are the people most likely to be trolls? Look in the
mirror, Tony.
Silly. Don't you even know the definition of Troll?

A NEW poster using an alias who attacks the regulars in a newsgroup. You
can't be a Troll. You use your real name. I can't be a troll. I use my
real name. We have both been in this newsgroup for over 20 years. We are
the regulars. Trolls attack the regulars. And hide behind aliases. Did you
notice that the Russian Troll farm was clever enough to set up its own US
server and synch the US posting times with the Russian bot times so that
they LOOKED like Americans? That's why I reminded YOU about YOUR time zone
which I KNOW. If I see you posting at 3AM I'm going to worry about you and
call your doctor.
Post by John McAdams
Post by Anthony Marsh
The fools you see shouting "Lock her up" are not real Americans, they
are actors hired by the Russians to stir up hatred to destroy the US.
So all of those people at Trump rallies were paid by the Russians.
Boy, did they have a big budget!
About 1.6 million dollars each month.
How else could they afford to give Trump $25B?
That is a very small percentage of what they save on not having to
modernize their military. Still using the same old tanks and planes.
Post by John McAdams
http://money.cnn.com/video/news/2018/02/16/rosenstein-russian-nationals-indictment-sot.cnnmoney/index.html
Note, the Russians sponsored both pro-Trump and anti-Trump rallies. In
one case both on the same day in New York.
Yes, exactly. The point is to stir up hatred. Take both sides and make
them argue.

Like one of our Trolls here who pretends to be a conspiracy believer
whose only goal is to attack me. And hiding behind a ridiculous alias.
Post by John McAdams
.John
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Post by mainframetech
Post by bigdog
Post by mainframetech
Post by bigdog
Post by mainframetech
Post by John McAdams
On Sat, 17 Feb 2018 19:01:02 -0600, John McAdams
Post by John McAdams
On 17 Feb 2018 09:19:12 -0500, Anthony Marsh
Post by Anthony Marsh
Bob Mueller made an excellent point in the indictments today which many
people here overlook. Some of the collusion was unwitting. As the KGB
used to say - useful idiots.
I have met John McAdams and I have talked to John McAdams in person.
I know he is not a Russian. But he has been enticed by the extreme
rightwing rhetoric of the Trump supporters and did not realize that they
are not his fellow Americans but actually are Russian agents taught to
mimic American hate groups and sow confusion.
So all Trump supporters were Russian agents?
Post by Anthony Marsh
Some of the trolls who post here hiding behind ridiculous aliases may
really just be Russian agents whose job is to use social media to sow
discord, distrust, and hatred.
And just who are the people most likely to be trolls? Look in the
mirror, Tony.
Post by Anthony Marsh
The fools you see shouting "Lock her up" are not real Americans, they
are actors hired by the Russians to stir up hatred to destroy the US.
So all of those people at Trump rallies were paid by the Russians.
Boy, did they have a big budget!
http://money.cnn.com/video/news/2018/02/16/rosenstein-russian-nationals-indictment-sot.cnnmoney/index.html
Note, the Russians sponsored both pro-Trump and anti-Trump rallies. In
one case both on the same day in New York.
Here is the irony of the indictments.
The Russians are being accused of doing things to disrupt the system
that were the SAME THINGS AMERICANS WERE DOING, in much greater
numbers, and to much more effect then the Russians.
In short, the Russians were trying to screw with the U.S. political
system, but their efforts were pretty puny compared to what Americans
were already doing.
.John
-----------------------
http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/home.htm
If that were true, we failed at getting Putin's enemies elected in
Russia, but they seem to have been effective here in electing Trump, the
least popular of the 2 candidates.
So you just assume Russian meddling was responsible for altering the
outcome of the election. The Mueller indictment said it found no evidence
that was the case.
That was Rosenstein's way of avoiding saying Trump was at fault. And
the indictments did NOT say it found no evidence. Rosenstein said that
THIS indictment doesn't say there was collusion. It didn't say anything
about future indictments. Amazing how you parrot Trump as if he knew
something! No evidence, what laugh!
Really? Tell us what is in the indictment that indicates any American
knowingly colluded with Russian operatives. Just one measly example.
You think Mueller tells me all his secrets?
You act as if he does. You keep telling us the other shoe is going to
drop. How would you know that if Mueller wasn't keeping you up to date on
his progress. Surely you wouldn't just make something like that up.
Post by mainframetech
You're living in a fairy
tale if you think Mueller doesn't have that evidence tucked away for the
right time.
So after telling us Mueller doesn't keep you informed of what he has you
immediately turn around and tell us Mueller has more than what he has
shown. I don't suppose you can even see the inconsistency.
Post by mainframetech
Why, the connection with The son-in-law being overjoyed at
getting some Russian dirt on Hillary and the meeting he went to, says
there was collusion right then. Or let's call it 'conspiracy'.
Was that in Mueller's indictment?
Post by mainframetech
But when you have so many persons all in the same Trump campaign team,
and EVERY ONE of them lied that they never talked with Russians, and then
later they are all found out, well, that looks bad for them.
Is that what Mueller told you?
Read the damn documents.
Bud
2018-02-18 03:46:19 UTC
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Post by Anthony Marsh
Bob Mueller made an excellent point in the indictments today which many
people here overlook. Some of the collusion was unwitting. As the KGB
used to say - useful idiots.
Take a bow Tony, they were referring to your fellow leftists who naively
aided the Evil Empire.
Post by Anthony Marsh
I have met John McAdams and I have talked to John McAdams in person.
I know he is not a Russian. But he has been enticed by the extreme
rightwing rhetoric of the Trump supporters and did not realize that they
are not his fellow Americans but actually are Russian agents taught to
mimic American hate groups and sow confusion.
Antifa?
Post by Anthony Marsh
Some of the trolls who post here hiding behind ridiculous aliases may
really just be Russian agents whose job is to use social media to sow
discord, distrust, and hatred.
Yes, they need to infiltrate a newsgroup where a couple dozen people
talk about a fifty year old murder. Your average model train convention is
about a thousand times more relevant.
Post by Anthony Marsh
The fools you see shouting "Lock her up" are not real Americans, they
are actors hired by the Russians to stir up hatred to destroy the US.
The bitch they wanted to see incarcerated isn`t a real American either,
she is a alien from Blah-ha 12, and she is stealing silverware from a
buffet to take back to her home planet as we speak.
c***@gmail.com
2018-02-18 20:06:25 UTC
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Post by Anthony Marsh
Bob Mueller made an excellent point in the indictments today which many
people here overlook. Some of the collusion was unwitting. As the KGB
used to say - useful idiots.
Perhaps you are not aware that the term "useful idiots" was a phrase the
Commies/KGB used in referring to Western Leftists who were sympathetic to
their baloney.
Post by Anthony Marsh
I have met John McAdams and I have talked to John McAdams in person.
I know he is not a Russian. But he has been enticed by the extreme
rightwing rhetoric of the Trump supporters and did not realize that they
are not his fellow Americans but actually are Russian agents taught to
mimic American hate groups and sow confusion.
Your paranoia is palpable.
Post by Anthony Marsh
Some of the trolls who post here hiding behind ridiculous aliases may
really just be Russian agents whose job is to use social media to sow
discord, distrust, and hatred.
Check under your school bus for Russian agents tonight.
Post by Anthony Marsh
The fools you see shouting "Lock her up" are not real Americans, they
are actors hired by the Russians to stir up hatred to destroy the US.
Yeah, Putin wanted someone in office who was going to be tougher on Russia
than Hillary. (Chuckle.)
Anthony Marsh
2018-02-19 21:17:44 UTC
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Post by Anthony Marsh
Bob Mueller made an excellent point in the indictments today which many
people here overlook. Some of the collusion was unwitting. As the KGB
used to say - useful idiots.
Perhaps you are not aware that the term "useful idiots" was a phrase the
Commies/KGB used in referring to Western Leftists who were sympathetic to
their baloney.
I thought I told you before that I am aware of it and the conditions had
flipp 180 degrees now. The Republicans support the Russians and the
Liberals point out that the Russians are attacking us.
Post by c***@gmail.com
Post by Anthony Marsh
I have met John McAdams and I have talked to John McAdams in person.
I know he is not a Russian. But he has been enticed by the extreme
rightwing rhetoric of the Trump supporters and did not realize that they
are not his fellow Americans but actually are Russian agents taught to
mimic American hate groups and sow confusion.
Your paranoia is palpable.
That is the purpose of the Russia operation.

Thanks for confirming that it worked.

So you want to dispute what I said about McAdams and claim that I am wrong
in my assessment? But you've never even met McAdams so how would you know?
It's not true that he is Bigfoot. That was just a joke.
Post by c***@gmail.com
Post by Anthony Marsh
Some of the trolls who post here hiding behind ridiculous aliases may
really just be Russian agents whose job is to use social media to sow
discord, distrust, and hatred.
Check under your school bus for Russian agents tonight.
I don't have a school bus any more. I retired early.
I already told you that I had a KGB agent riding on my bus when the
music group came to Boston.
Post by c***@gmail.com
Post by Anthony Marsh
The fools you see shouting "Lock her up" are not real Americans, they
are actors hired by the Russians to stir up hatred to destroy the US.
Yeah, Putin wanted someone in office who was going to be tougher on Russia
than Hillary. (Chuckle.)
Many people called Hillary just Obama's third term.
Do you see Trump being tough on Russia? He won't implement the sanctions.

The Treasury Department takes the lead on the technical aspect of
sanctions, but implementing punitive measures requires elaborate
coordination with allies, particularly the European Union, to build
diplomatic support and to ensure a unified approach. As a result, the
State Department plays a crucial role in making sanctions effective.

As secretary of state under the Obama administration, Hillary Clinton
created the coordinator for sanctions policy role. Fried said during his
tenure, the office worked hand in glove with Treasury to carry out tasks
such as working with Asian allies to push North Korea sanctions and
identifying individual Russians trying to evade targeted U.S. sanctions.
OHLeeRedux
2018-02-20 20:51:13 UTC
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Raw Message
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by c***@gmail.com
Post by Anthony Marsh
Bob Mueller made an excellent point in the indictments today which many
people here overlook. Some of the collusion was unwitting. As the KGB
used to say - useful idiots.
Perhaps you are not aware that the term "useful idiots" was a phrase the
Commies/KGB used in referring to Western Leftists who were sympathetic to
their baloney.
I thought I told you before that I am aware of it and the conditions had
flipp 180 degrees now. The Republicans support the Russians and the
Liberals point out that the Russians are attacking us.
Post by c***@gmail.com
Post by Anthony Marsh
I have met John McAdams and I have talked to John McAdams in person.
I know he is not a Russian. But he has been enticed by the extreme
rightwing rhetoric of the Trump supporters and did not realize that they
are not his fellow Americans but actually are Russian agents taught to
mimic American hate groups and sow confusion.
Your paranoia is palpable.
That is the purpose of the Russia operation.
Thanks for confirming that it worked.
So you want to dispute what I said about McAdams and claim that I am wrong
in my assessment? But you've never even met McAdams so how would you know?
It's not true that he is Bigfoot. That was just a joke.
Post by c***@gmail.com
Post by Anthony Marsh
Some of the trolls who post here hiding behind ridiculous aliases may
really just be Russian agents whose job is to use social media to sow
discord, distrust, and hatred.
Check under your school bus for Russian agents tonight.
I don't have a school bus any more. I retired early.
To the relief of parents all over New England.
c***@gmail.com
2018-02-20 21:17:00 UTC
Permalink
Raw Message
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by c***@gmail.com
Post by Anthony Marsh
Bob Mueller made an excellent point in the indictments today which many
people here overlook. Some of the collusion was unwitting. As the KGB
used to say - useful idiots.
Perhaps you are not aware that the term "useful idiots" was a phrase the
Commies/KGB used in referring to Western Leftists who were sympathetic to
their baloney.
I thought I told you before that I am aware of it and the conditions had
flipp 180 degrees now. The Republicans support the Russians and the
Liberals point out that the Russians are attacking us.
Just a few years ago, Romney as the Repub nominee for POTUS called Russia
our greatest geopolitical foe and libs generally laughed at him. Remember
Hillary and the Russia re-set button? Former President Bill Clinton
received a $500,000 speaking fee in Russia around the time the shady
uranium deal Hillary was in the middle of was going down. Coincidence?
Maybe...

Liberals shout that Russia is "attacking" us while they're under FBI
investigation during the Obama years for all sorts of Russian connections.
That's the real story. The Trump/Russia "collusion" story is a
smokescreen, and the liberal press is carrying Obama and Hillary's water.
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by c***@gmail.com
Post by Anthony Marsh
I have met John McAdams and I have talked to John McAdams in person.
I know he is not a Russian. But he has been enticed by the extreme
rightwing rhetoric of the Trump supporters and did not realize that they
are not his fellow Americans but actually are Russian agents taught to
mimic American hate groups and sow confusion.
Your paranoia is palpable.
That is the purpose of the Russia operation.
Thanks for confirming that it worked.
That's the fun part of paranoia; you are never wrong.
Post by Anthony Marsh
So you want to dispute what I said about McAdams and claim that I am wrong
in my assessment? But you've never even met McAdams so how would you know?
It's not true that he is Bigfoot. That was just a joke.
You're bizarre. You once had some constructive insight into the JFK
assassination when I first started posting here over fifteen years ago.
Not any longer.
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by c***@gmail.com
Post by Anthony Marsh
Some of the trolls who post here hiding behind ridiculous aliases may
really just be Russian agents whose job is to use social media to sow
discord, distrust, and hatred.
Check under your school bus for Russian agents tonight.
I don't have a school bus any more. I retired early.
I already told you that I had a KGB agent riding on my bus when the
music group came to Boston.
What a rich fantasy life you lead. Maybe there was an FBI agent on the bus
keeping an eye on the KGB agent. Spy versus spy.
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by c***@gmail.com
Post by Anthony Marsh
The fools you see shouting "Lock her up" are not real Americans, they
are actors hired by the Russians to stir up hatred to destroy the US.
Yeah, Putin wanted someone in office who was going to be tougher on Russia
than Hillary. (Chuckle.)
Many people called Hillary just Obama's third term.
Do you see Trump being tough on Russia? He won't implement the sanctions.
But he just allowed the US military to take out T-72 tanks in Syria and
kill an estimated 100 Russians and their paid mercenaries.
Post by Anthony Marsh
The Treasury Department takes the lead on the technical aspect of
sanctions, but implementing punitive measures requires elaborate
coordination with allies, particularly the European Union, to build
diplomatic support and to ensure a unified approach. As a result, the
State Department plays a crucial role in making sanctions effective.
As secretary of state under the Obama administration, Hillary Clinton
created the coordinator for sanctions policy role. Fried said during his
tenure, the office worked hand in glove with Treasury to carry out tasks
such as working with Asian allies to push North Korea sanctions and
identifying individual Russians trying to evade targeted U.S. sanctions.
Nice press release. Dodging sniper fire in Bosnia, almost joining the
Marines...that Hillary is one tough bitch.
Anthony Marsh
2018-02-21 18:57:53 UTC
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Post by c***@gmail.com
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by c***@gmail.com
Post by Anthony Marsh
Bob Mueller made an excellent point in the indictments today which many
people here overlook. Some of the collusion was unwitting. As the KGB
used to say - useful idiots.
Perhaps you are not aware that the term "useful idiots" was a phrase the
Commies/KGB used in referring to Western Leftists who were sympathetic to
their baloney.
I thought I told you before that I am aware of it and the conditions had
flipp 180 degrees now. The Republicans support the Russians and the
Liberals point out that the Russians are attacking us.
Just a few years ago, Romney as the Repub nominee for POTUS called Russia
our greatest geopolitical foe and libs generally laughed at him. Remember
Hillary and the Russia re-set button? Former President Bill Clinton
received a $500,000 speaking fee in Russia around the time the shady
uranium deal Hillary was in the middle of was going down. Coincidence?
Maybe...
Liberals shout that Russia is "attacking" us while they're under FBI
investigation during the Obama years for all sorts of Russian connections.
That's the real story. The Trump/Russia "collusion" story is a
smokescreen, and the liberal press is carrying Obama and Hillary's water.
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by c***@gmail.com
Post by Anthony Marsh
I have met John McAdams and I have talked to John McAdams in person.
I know he is not a Russian. But he has been enticed by the extreme
rightwing rhetoric of the Trump supporters and did not realize that they
are not his fellow Americans but actually are Russian agents taught to
mimic American hate groups and sow confusion.
Your paranoia is palpable.
That is the purpose of the Russia operation.
Thanks for confirming that it worked.
That's the fun part of paranoia; you are never wrong.
Post by Anthony Marsh
So you want to dispute what I said about McAdams and claim that I am wrong
in my assessment? But you've never even met McAdams so how would you know?
It's not true that he is Bigfoot. That was just a joke.
You're bizarre. You once had some constructive insight into the JFK
assassination when I first started posting here over fifteen years ago.
Not any longer.
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by c***@gmail.com
Post by Anthony Marsh
Some of the trolls who post here hiding behind ridiculous aliases may
really just be Russian agents whose job is to use social media to sow
discord, distrust, and hatred.
Check under your school bus for Russian agents tonight.
I don't have a school bus any more. I retired early.
I already told you that I had a KGB agent riding on my bus when the
music group came to Boston.
What a rich fantasy life you lead. Maybe there was an FBI agent on the bus
keeping an eye on the KGB agent. Spy versus spy.
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by c***@gmail.com
Post by Anthony Marsh
The fools you see shouting "Lock her up" are not real Americans, they
are actors hired by the Russians to stir up hatred to destroy the US.
Yeah, Putin wanted someone in office who was going to be tougher on Russia
than Hillary. (Chuckle.)
Many people called Hillary just Obama's third term.
Do you see Trump being tough on Russia? He won't implement the sanctions.
But he just allowed the US military to take out T-72 tanks in Syria and
kill an estimated 100 Russians and their paid mercenaries.
Post by Anthony Marsh
The Treasury Department takes the lead on the technical aspect of
sanctions, but implementing punitive measures requires elaborate
coordination with allies, particularly the European Union, to build
diplomatic support and to ensure a unified approach. As a result, the
State Department plays a crucial role in making sanctions effective.
As secretary of state under the Obama administration, Hillary Clinton
created the coordinator for sanctions policy role. Fried said during his
tenure, the office worked hand in glove with Treasury to carry out tasks
such as working with Asian allies to push North Korea sanctions and
identifying individual Russians trying to evade targeted U.S. sanctions.
Nice press release. Dodging sniper fire in Bosnia, almost joining the
Marines...that Hillary is one tough bitch.
How about your hero Trump? How many deferments did he get?
How are those bone spurs now? SHow me the X-rays.
OHLeeRedux
2018-02-22 14:42:35 UTC
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Raw Message
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by c***@gmail.com
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by c***@gmail.com
Post by Anthony Marsh
Bob Mueller made an excellent point in the indictments today which many
people here overlook. Some of the collusion was unwitting. As the KGB
used to say - useful idiots.
Perhaps you are not aware that the term "useful idiots" was a phrase the
Commies/KGB used in referring to Western Leftists who were sympathetic to
their baloney.
I thought I told you before that I am aware of it and the conditions had
flipp 180 degrees now. The Republicans support the Russians and the
Liberals point out that the Russians are attacking us.
Just a few years ago, Romney as the Repub nominee for POTUS called Russia
our greatest geopolitical foe and libs generally laughed at him. Remember
Hillary and the Russia re-set button? Former President Bill Clinton
received a $500,000 speaking fee in Russia around the time the shady
uranium deal Hillary was in the middle of was going down. Coincidence?
Maybe...
Liberals shout that Russia is "attacking" us while they're under FBI
investigation during the Obama years for all sorts of Russian connections.
That's the real story. The Trump/Russia "collusion" story is a
smokescreen, and the liberal press is carrying Obama and Hillary's water.
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by c***@gmail.com
Post by Anthony Marsh
I have met John McAdams and I have talked to John McAdams in person.
I know he is not a Russian. But he has been enticed by the extreme
rightwing rhetoric of the Trump supporters and did not realize that they
are not his fellow Americans but actually are Russian agents taught to
mimic American hate groups and sow confusion.
Your paranoia is palpable.
That is the purpose of the Russia operation.
Thanks for confirming that it worked.
That's the fun part of paranoia; you are never wrong.
Post by Anthony Marsh
So you want to dispute what I said about McAdams and claim that I am wrong
in my assessment? But you've never even met McAdams so how would you know?
It's not true that he is Bigfoot. That was just a joke.
You're bizarre. You once had some constructive insight into the JFK
assassination when I first started posting here over fifteen years ago.
Not any longer.
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by c***@gmail.com
Post by Anthony Marsh
Some of the trolls who post here hiding behind ridiculous aliases may
really just be Russian agents whose job is to use social media to sow
discord, distrust, and hatred.
Check under your school bus for Russian agents tonight.
I don't have a school bus any more. I retired early.
I already told you that I had a KGB agent riding on my bus when the
music group came to Boston.
What a rich fantasy life you lead. Maybe there was an FBI agent on the bus
keeping an eye on the KGB agent. Spy versus spy.
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by c***@gmail.com
Post by Anthony Marsh
The fools you see shouting "Lock her up" are not real Americans, they
are actors hired by the Russians to stir up hatred to destroy the US.
Yeah, Putin wanted someone in office who was going to be tougher on Russia
than Hillary. (Chuckle.)
Many people called Hillary just Obama's third term.
Do you see Trump being tough on Russia? He won't implement the sanctions.
But he just allowed the US military to take out T-72 tanks in Syria and
kill an estimated 100 Russians and their paid mercenaries.
Post by Anthony Marsh
The Treasury Department takes the lead on the technical aspect of
sanctions, but implementing punitive measures requires elaborate
coordination with allies, particularly the European Union, to build
diplomatic support and to ensure a unified approach. As a result, the
State Department plays a crucial role in making sanctions effective.
As secretary of state under the Obama administration, Hillary Clinton
created the coordinator for sanctions policy role. Fried said during his
tenure, the office worked hand in glove with Treasury to carry out tasks
such as working with Asian allies to push North Korea sanctions and
identifying individual Russians trying to evade targeted U.S. sanctions.
Nice press release. Dodging sniper fire in Bosnia, almost joining the
Marines...that Hillary is one tough bitch.
How about your hero Trump? How many deferments did he get?
How are those bone spurs now? SHow me the X-rays.
And what branch did you serve in, Anthony? [snicker]
Anthony Marsh
2018-02-23 15:31:43 UTC
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Post by OHLeeRedux
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by c***@gmail.com
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by c***@gmail.com
Post by Anthony Marsh
Bob Mueller made an excellent point in the indictments today which many
people here overlook. Some of the collusion was unwitting. As the KGB
used to say - useful idiots.
Perhaps you are not aware that the term "useful idiots" was a phrase the
Commies/KGB used in referring to Western Leftists who were sympathetic to
their baloney.
I thought I told you before that I am aware of it and the conditions had
flipp 180 degrees now. The Republicans support the Russians and the
Liberals point out that the Russians are attacking us.
Just a few years ago, Romney as the Repub nominee for POTUS called Russia
our greatest geopolitical foe and libs generally laughed at him. Remember
Hillary and the Russia re-set button? Former President Bill Clinton
received a $500,000 speaking fee in Russia around the time the shady
uranium deal Hillary was in the middle of was going down. Coincidence?
Maybe...
Liberals shout that Russia is "attacking" us while they're under FBI
investigation during the Obama years for all sorts of Russian connections.
That's the real story. The Trump/Russia "collusion" story is a
smokescreen, and the liberal press is carrying Obama and Hillary's water.
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by c***@gmail.com
Post by Anthony Marsh
I have met John McAdams and I have talked to John McAdams in person.
I know he is not a Russian. But he has been enticed by the extreme
rightwing rhetoric of the Trump supporters and did not realize that they
are not his fellow Americans but actually are Russian agents taught to
mimic American hate groups and sow confusion.
Your paranoia is palpable.
That is the purpose of the Russia operation.
Thanks for confirming that it worked.
That's the fun part of paranoia; you are never wrong.
Post by Anthony Marsh
So you want to dispute what I said about McAdams and claim that I am wrong
in my assessment? But you've never even met McAdams so how would you know?
It's not true that he is Bigfoot. That was just a joke.
You're bizarre. You once had some constructive insight into the JFK
assassination when I first started posting here over fifteen years ago.
Not any longer.
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by c***@gmail.com
Post by Anthony Marsh
Some of the trolls who post here hiding behind ridiculous aliases may
really just be Russian agents whose job is to use social media to sow
discord, distrust, and hatred.
Check under your school bus for Russian agents tonight.
I don't have a school bus any more. I retired early.
I already told you that I had a KGB agent riding on my bus when the
music group came to Boston.
What a rich fantasy life you lead. Maybe there was an FBI agent on the bus
keeping an eye on the KGB agent. Spy versus spy.
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by c***@gmail.com
Post by Anthony Marsh
The fools you see shouting "Lock her up" are not real Americans, they
are actors hired by the Russians to stir up hatred to destroy the US.
Yeah, Putin wanted someone in office who was going to be tougher on Russia
than Hillary. (Chuckle.)
Many people called Hillary just Obama's third term.
Do you see Trump being tough on Russia? He won't implement the sanctions.
But he just allowed the US military to take out T-72 tanks in Syria and
kill an estimated 100 Russians and their paid mercenaries.
Post by Anthony Marsh
The Treasury Department takes the lead on the technical aspect of
sanctions, but implementing punitive measures requires elaborate
coordination with allies, particularly the European Union, to build
diplomatic support and to ensure a unified approach. As a result, the
State Department plays a crucial role in making sanctions effective.
As secretary of state under the Obama administration, Hillary Clinton
created the coordinator for sanctions policy role. Fried said during his
tenure, the office worked hand in glove with Treasury to carry out tasks
such as working with Asian allies to push North Korea sanctions and
identifying individual Russians trying to evade targeted U.S. sanctions.
Nice press release. Dodging sniper fire in Bosnia, almost joining the
Marines...that Hillary is one tough bitch.
How about your hero Trump? How many deferments did he get?
How are those bone spurs now? SHow me the X-rays.
And what branch did you serve in, Anthony? [snicker]
My number wasn't picked luckily, but if I served it would be in a branch
you never heard of.
OHLeeRedux
2018-02-24 22:14:55 UTC
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Raw Message
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by OHLeeRedux
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by c***@gmail.com
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by c***@gmail.com
Post by Anthony Marsh
Bob Mueller made an excellent point in the indictments today which many
people here overlook. Some of the collusion was unwitting. As the KGB
used to say - useful idiots.
Perhaps you are not aware that the term "useful idiots" was a phrase the
Commies/KGB used in referring to Western Leftists who were sympathetic to
their baloney.
I thought I told you before that I am aware of it and the conditions had
flipp 180 degrees now. The Republicans support the Russians and the
Liberals point out that the Russians are attacking us.
Just a few years ago, Romney as the Repub nominee for POTUS called Russia
our greatest geopolitical foe and libs generally laughed at him. Remember
Hillary and the Russia re-set button? Former President Bill Clinton
received a $500,000 speaking fee in Russia around the time the shady
uranium deal Hillary was in the middle of was going down. Coincidence?
Maybe...
Liberals shout that Russia is "attacking" us while they're under FBI
investigation during the Obama years for all sorts of Russian connections.
That's the real story. The Trump/Russia "collusion" story is a
smokescreen, and the liberal press is carrying Obama and Hillary's water.
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by c***@gmail.com
Post by Anthony Marsh
I have met John McAdams and I have talked to John McAdams in person.
I know he is not a Russian. But he has been enticed by the extreme
rightwing rhetoric of the Trump supporters and did not realize that they
are not his fellow Americans but actually are Russian agents taught to
mimic American hate groups and sow confusion.
Your paranoia is palpable.
That is the purpose of the Russia operation.
Thanks for confirming that it worked.
That's the fun part of paranoia; you are never wrong.
Post by Anthony Marsh
So you want to dispute what I said about McAdams and claim that I am wrong
in my assessment? But you've never even met McAdams so how would you know?
It's not true that he is Bigfoot. That was just a joke.
You're bizarre. You once had some constructive insight into the JFK
assassination when I first started posting here over fifteen years ago.
Not any longer.
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by c***@gmail.com
Post by Anthony Marsh
Some of the trolls who post here hiding behind ridiculous aliases may
really just be Russian agents whose job is to use social media to sow
discord, distrust, and hatred.
Check under your school bus for Russian agents tonight.
I don't have a school bus any more. I retired early.
I already told you that I had a KGB agent riding on my bus when the
music group came to Boston.
What a rich fantasy life you lead. Maybe there was an FBI agent on the bus
keeping an eye on the KGB agent. Spy versus spy.
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by c***@gmail.com
Post by Anthony Marsh
The fools you see shouting "Lock her up" are not real Americans, they
are actors hired by the Russians to stir up hatred to destroy the US.
Yeah, Putin wanted someone in office who was going to be tougher on Russia
than Hillary. (Chuckle.)
Many people called Hillary just Obama's third term.
Do you see Trump being tough on Russia? He won't implement the sanctions.
But he just allowed the US military to take out T-72 tanks in Syria and
kill an estimated 100 Russians and their paid mercenaries.
Post by Anthony Marsh
The Treasury Department takes the lead on the technical aspect of
sanctions, but implementing punitive measures requires elaborate
coordination with allies, particularly the European Union, to build
diplomatic support and to ensure a unified approach. As a result, the
State Department plays a crucial role in making sanctions effective.
As secretary of state under the Obama administration, Hillary Clinton
created the coordinator for sanctions policy role. Fried said during his
tenure, the office worked hand in glove with Treasury to carry out tasks
such as working with Asian allies to push North Korea sanctions and
identifying individual Russians trying to evade targeted U.S. sanctions.
Nice press release. Dodging sniper fire in Bosnia, almost joining the
Marines...that Hillary is one tough bitch.
How about your hero Trump? How many deferments did he get?
How are those bone spurs now? SHow me the X-rays.
And what branch did you serve in, Anthony? [snicker]
My number wasn't picked luckily, but if I served it would be in a branch
you never heard of.
Never heard of enlisting? You criticize Trump for using a loophole to get
out of serving his country, but you did exactly the same thing. "The
didn't pick my number. Whew! Let somebody else's kid go in my place."

And if you had been qualified for some top secret branch of the military,
as you just implied, then why didn't you do that? Bus driving a more
rewarding career?
Anthony Marsh
2018-02-26 04:42:38 UTC
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Post by OHLeeRedux
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by OHLeeRedux
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by c***@gmail.com
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by c***@gmail.com
Post by Anthony Marsh
Bob Mueller made an excellent point in the indictments today which many
people here overlook. Some of the collusion was unwitting. As the KGB
used to say - useful idiots.
Perhaps you are not aware that the term "useful idiots" was a phrase the
Commies/KGB used in referring to Western Leftists who were sympathetic to
their baloney.
I thought I told you before that I am aware of it and the conditions had
flipp 180 degrees now. The Republicans support the Russians and the
Liberals point out that the Russians are attacking us.
Just a few years ago, Romney as the Repub nominee for POTUS called Russia
our greatest geopolitical foe and libs generally laughed at him. Remember
Hillary and the Russia re-set button? Former President Bill Clinton
received a $500,000 speaking fee in Russia around the time the shady
uranium deal Hillary was in the middle of was going down. Coincidence?
Maybe...
Liberals shout that Russia is "attacking" us while they're under FBI
investigation during the Obama years for all sorts of Russian connections.
That's the real story. The Trump/Russia "collusion" story is a
smokescreen, and the liberal press is carrying Obama and Hillary's water.
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by c***@gmail.com
Post by Anthony Marsh
I have met John McAdams and I have talked to John McAdams in person.
I know he is not a Russian. But he has been enticed by the extreme
rightwing rhetoric of the Trump supporters and did not realize that they
are not his fellow Americans but actually are Russian agents taught to
mimic American hate groups and sow confusion.
Your paranoia is palpable.
That is the purpose of the Russia operation.
Thanks for confirming that it worked.
That's the fun part of paranoia; you are never wrong.
Post by Anthony Marsh
So you want to dispute what I said about McAdams and claim that I am wrong
in my assessment? But you've never even met McAdams so how would you know?
It's not true that he is Bigfoot. That was just a joke.
You're bizarre. You once had some constructive insight into the JFK
assassination when I first started posting here over fifteen years ago.
Not any longer.
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by c***@gmail.com
Post by Anthony Marsh
Some of the trolls who post here hiding behind ridiculous aliases may
really just be Russian agents whose job is to use social media to sow
discord, distrust, and hatred.
Check under your school bus for Russian agents tonight.
I don't have a school bus any more. I retired early.
I already told you that I had a KGB agent riding on my bus when the
music group came to Boston.
What a rich fantasy life you lead. Maybe there was an FBI agent on the bus
keeping an eye on the KGB agent. Spy versus spy.
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by c***@gmail.com
Post by Anthony Marsh
The fools you see shouting "Lock her up" are not real Americans, they
are actors hired by the Russians to stir up hatred to destroy the US.
Yeah, Putin wanted someone in office who was going to be tougher on Russia
than Hillary. (Chuckle.)
Many people called Hillary just Obama's third term.
Do you see Trump being tough on Russia? He won't implement the sanctions.
But he just allowed the US military to take out T-72 tanks in Syria and
kill an estimated 100 Russians and their paid mercenaries.
Post by Anthony Marsh
The Treasury Department takes the lead on the technical aspect of
sanctions, but implementing punitive measures requires elaborate
coordination with allies, particularly the European Union, to build
diplomatic support and to ensure a unified approach. As a result, the
State Department plays a crucial role in making sanctions effective.
As secretary of state under the Obama administration, Hillary Clinton
created the coordinator for sanctions policy role. Fried said during his
tenure, the office worked hand in glove with Treasury to carry out tasks
such as working with Asian allies to push North Korea sanctions and
identifying individual Russians trying to evade targeted U.S. sanctions.
Nice press release. Dodging sniper fire in Bosnia, almost joining the
Marines...that Hillary is one tough bitch.
How about your hero Trump? How many deferments did he get?
How are those bone spurs now? SHow me the X-rays.
And what branch did you serve in, Anthony? [snicker]
My number wasn't picked luckily, but if I served it would be in a branch
you never heard of.
Never heard of enlisting? You criticize Trump for using a loophole to get
out of serving his country, but you did exactly the same thing. "The
No. I had a real deferment for a real medical condition.
Trump got deferments for fake conditions that his rich father paid a
doctor to make up. Again, I repeat, SHOW me the X-rays.
Post by OHLeeRedux
didn't pick my number. Whew! Let somebody else's kid go in my place."
And if you had been qualified for some top secret branch of the military,
as you just implied, then why didn't you do that? Bus driving a more
rewarding career?
I was in college at the time and had deferments for the eduction that I
was trying to complete. Trump, nothing.
I was not driving a bus then.
You Trolls think that you can pick up on something and keep hararasssing
other posters about something totally unrelated to the topic.
Anything to defend your hero Trump.
OHLeeRedux
2018-02-27 00:46:11 UTC
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Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by OHLeeRedux
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by OHLeeRedux
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by c***@gmail.com
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by c***@gmail.com
Post by Anthony Marsh
Bob Mueller made an excellent point in the indictments today which many
people here overlook. Some of the collusion was unwitting. As the KGB
used to say - useful idiots.
Perhaps you are not aware that the term "useful idiots" was a phrase the
Commies/KGB used in referring to Western Leftists who were sympathetic to
their baloney.
I thought I told you before that I am aware of it and the conditions had
flipp 180 degrees now. The Republicans support the Russians and the
Liberals point out that the Russians are attacking us.
Just a few years ago, Romney as the Repub nominee for POTUS called Russia
our greatest geopolitical foe and libs generally laughed at him. Remember
Hillary and the Russia re-set button? Former President Bill Clinton
received a $500,000 speaking fee in Russia around the time the shady
uranium deal Hillary was in the middle of was going down. Coincidence?
Maybe...
Liberals shout that Russia is "attacking" us while they're under FBI
investigation during the Obama years for all sorts of Russian connections.
That's the real story. The Trump/Russia "collusion" story is a
smokescreen, and the liberal press is carrying Obama and Hillary's water.
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by c***@gmail.com
Post by Anthony Marsh
I have met John McAdams and I have talked to John McAdams in person.
I know he is not a Russian. But he has been enticed by the extreme
rightwing rhetoric of the Trump supporters and did not realize that they
are not his fellow Americans but actually are Russian agents taught to
mimic American hate groups and sow confusion.
Your paranoia is palpable.
That is the purpose of the Russia operation.
Thanks for confirming that it worked.
That's the fun part of paranoia; you are never wrong.
Post by Anthony Marsh
So you want to dispute what I said about McAdams and claim that I am wrong
in my assessment? But you've never even met McAdams so how would you know?
It's not true that he is Bigfoot. That was just a joke.
You're bizarre. You once had some constructive insight into the JFK
assassination when I first started posting here over fifteen years ago.
Not any longer.
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by c***@gmail.com
Post by Anthony Marsh
Some of the trolls who post here hiding behind ridiculous aliases may
really just be Russian agents whose job is to use social media to sow
discord, distrust, and hatred.
Check under your school bus for Russian agents tonight.
I don't have a school bus any more. I retired early.
I already told you that I had a KGB agent riding on my bus when the
music group came to Boston.
What a rich fantasy life you lead. Maybe there was an FBI agent on the bus
keeping an eye on the KGB agent. Spy versus spy.
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by c***@gmail.com
Post by Anthony Marsh
The fools you see shouting "Lock her up" are not real Americans, they
are actors hired by the Russians to stir up hatred to destroy the US.
Yeah, Putin wanted someone in office who was going to be tougher on Russia
than Hillary. (Chuckle.)
Many people called Hillary just Obama's third term.
Do you see Trump being tough on Russia? He won't implement the sanctions.
But he just allowed the US military to take out T-72 tanks in Syria and
kill an estimated 100 Russians and their paid mercenaries.
Post by Anthony Marsh
The Treasury Department takes the lead on the technical aspect of
sanctions, but implementing punitive measures requires elaborate
coordination with allies, particularly the European Union, to build
diplomatic support and to ensure a unified approach. As a result, the
State Department plays a crucial role in making sanctions effective.
As secretary of state under the Obama administration, Hillary Clinton
created the coordinator for sanctions policy role. Fried said during his
tenure, the office worked hand in glove with Treasury to carry out tasks
such as working with Asian allies to push North Korea sanctions and
identifying individual Russians trying to evade targeted U.S. sanctions.
Nice press release. Dodging sniper fire in Bosnia, almost joining the
Marines...that Hillary is one tough bitch.
How about your hero Trump? How many deferments did he get?
How are those bone spurs now? SHow me the X-rays.
And what branch did you serve in, Anthony? [snicker]
My number wasn't picked luckily, but if I served it would be in a branch
you never heard of.
Never heard of enlisting? You criticize Trump for using a loophole to get
out of serving his country, but you did exactly the same thing. "The
No. I had a real deferment for a real medical condition.
Trump got deferments for fake conditions that his rich father paid a
doctor to make up. Again, I repeat, SHOW me the X-rays.
Post by OHLeeRedux
didn't pick my number. Whew! Let somebody else's kid go in my place."
And if you had been qualified for some top secret branch of the military,
as you just implied, then why didn't you do that? Bus driving a more
rewarding career?
I was in college at the time and had deferments for the eduction that I
was trying to complete. Trump, nothing.
You used an educational deferment to duck military service. Trump used a
medical deferment. No substantial difference. People finding loopholes to
avoid doing their duty.

Just like your hypocrisy in calling your opponents Nazis and uneducated
hillbillies and then whining like a little bitch dog when someone gives
you a taste of your own medicine.

Keep it up, Anthony. It's great entertainment.
Anthony Marsh
2018-02-28 21:28:38 UTC
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Raw Message
Post by OHLeeRedux
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by OHLeeRedux
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by OHLeeRedux
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by c***@gmail.com
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by c***@gmail.com
Post by Anthony Marsh
Bob Mueller made an excellent point in the indictments today which many
people here overlook. Some of the collusion was unwitting. As the KGB
used to say - useful idiots.
Perhaps you are not aware that the term "useful idiots" was a phrase the
Commies/KGB used in referring to Western Leftists who were sympathetic to
their baloney.
I thought I told you before that I am aware of it and the conditions had
flipp 180 degrees now. The Republicans support the Russians and the
Liberals point out that the Russians are attacking us.
Just a few years ago, Romney as the Repub nominee for POTUS called Russia
our greatest geopolitical foe and libs generally laughed at him. Remember
Hillary and the Russia re-set button? Former President Bill Clinton
received a $500,000 speaking fee in Russia around the time the shady
uranium deal Hillary was in the middle of was going down. Coincidence?
Maybe...
Liberals shout that Russia is "attacking" us while they're under FBI
investigation during the Obama years for all sorts of Russian connections.
That's the real story. The Trump/Russia "collusion" story is a
smokescreen, and the liberal press is carrying Obama and Hillary's water.
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by c***@gmail.com
Post by Anthony Marsh
I have met John McAdams and I have talked to John McAdams in person.
I know he is not a Russian. But he has been enticed by the extreme
rightwing rhetoric of the Trump supporters and did not realize that they
are not his fellow Americans but actually are Russian agents taught to
mimic American hate groups and sow confusion.
Your paranoia is palpable.
That is the purpose of the Russia operation.
Thanks for confirming that it worked.
That's the fun part of paranoia; you are never wrong.
Post by Anthony Marsh
So you want to dispute what I said about McAdams and claim that I am wrong
in my assessment? But you've never even met McAdams so how would you know?
It's not true that he is Bigfoot. That was just a joke.
You're bizarre. You once had some constructive insight into the JFK
assassination when I first started posting here over fifteen years ago.
Not any longer.
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by c***@gmail.com
Post by Anthony Marsh
Some of the trolls who post here hiding behind ridiculous aliases may
really just be Russian agents whose job is to use social media to sow
discord, distrust, and hatred.
Check under your school bus for Russian agents tonight.
I don't have a school bus any more. I retired early.
I already told you that I had a KGB agent riding on my bus when the
music group came to Boston.
What a rich fantasy life you lead. Maybe there was an FBI agent on the bus
keeping an eye on the KGB agent. Spy versus spy.
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by c***@gmail.com
Post by Anthony Marsh
The fools you see shouting "Lock her up" are not real Americans, they
are actors hired by the Russians to stir up hatred to destroy the US.
Yeah, Putin wanted someone in office who was going to be tougher on Russia
than Hillary. (Chuckle.)
Many people called Hillary just Obama's third term.
Do you see Trump being tough on Russia? He won't implement the sanctions.
But he just allowed the US military to take out T-72 tanks in Syria and
kill an estimated 100 Russians and their paid mercenaries.
Post by Anthony Marsh
The Treasury Department takes the lead on the technical aspect of
sanctions, but implementing punitive measures requires elaborate
coordination with allies, particularly the European Union, to build
diplomatic support and to ensure a unified approach. As a result, the
State Department plays a crucial role in making sanctions effective.
As secretary of state under the Obama administration, Hillary Clinton
created the coordinator for sanctions policy role. Fried said during his
tenure, the office worked hand in glove with Treasury to carry out tasks
such as working with Asian allies to push North Korea sanctions and
identifying individual Russians trying to evade targeted U.S. sanctions.
Nice press release. Dodging sniper fire in Bosnia, almost joining the
Marines...that Hillary is one tough bitch.
How about your hero Trump? How many deferments did he get?
How are those bone spurs now? SHow me the X-rays.
And what branch did you serve in, Anthony? [snicker]
My number wasn't picked luckily, but if I served it would be in a branch
you never heard of.
Never heard of enlisting? You criticize Trump for using a loophole to get
out of serving his country, but you did exactly the same thing. "The
No. I had a real deferment for a real medical condition.
Trump got deferments for fake conditions that his rich father paid a
doctor to make up. Again, I repeat, SHOW me the X-rays.
Post by OHLeeRedux
didn't pick my number. Whew! Let somebody else's kid go in my place."
And if you had been qualified for some top secret branch of the military,
as you just implied, then why didn't you do that? Bus driving a more
rewarding career?
I was in college at the time and had deferments for the eduction that I
was trying to complete. Trump, nothing.
You used an educational deferment to duck military service. Trump used a
medical deferment. No substantial difference. People finding loopholes to
avoid doing their duty.
Big difference. Mine was real. I was already in college.
His was fake. He never had bone spurs, just a rich father.
Post by OHLeeRedux
Just like your hypocrisy in calling your opponents Nazis and uneducated
hillbillies and then whining like a little bitch dog when someone gives
They are not all Nazis and not all uneducated hillbillies.
Post by OHLeeRedux
you a taste of your own medicine.
Keep it up, Anthony. It's great entertainment.
OHLeeRedux
2018-02-27 00:47:13 UTC
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Raw Message
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by OHLeeRedux
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by OHLeeRedux
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by c***@gmail.com
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by c***@gmail.com
Post by Anthony Marsh
Bob Mueller made an excellent point in the indictments today which many
people here overlook. Some of the collusion was unwitting. As the KGB
used to say - useful idiots.
Perhaps you are not aware that the term "useful idiots" was a phrase the
Commies/KGB used in referring to Western Leftists who were sympathetic to
their baloney.
I thought I told you before that I am aware of it and the conditions had
flipp 180 degrees now. The Republicans support the Russians and the
Liberals point out that the Russians are attacking us.
Just a few years ago, Romney as the Repub nominee for POTUS called Russia
our greatest geopolitical foe and libs generally laughed at him. Remember
Hillary and the Russia re-set button? Former President Bill Clinton
received a $500,000 speaking fee in Russia around the time the shady
uranium deal Hillary was in the middle of was going down. Coincidence?
Maybe...
Liberals shout that Russia is "attacking" us while they're under FBI
investigation during the Obama years for all sorts of Russian connections.
That's the real story. The Trump/Russia "collusion" story is a
smokescreen, and the liberal press is carrying Obama and Hillary's water.
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by c***@gmail.com
Post by Anthony Marsh
I have met John McAdams and I have talked to John McAdams in person.
I know he is not a Russian. But he has been enticed by the extreme
rightwing rhetoric of the Trump supporters and did not realize that they
are not his fellow Americans but actually are Russian agents taught to
mimic American hate groups and sow confusion.
Your paranoia is palpable.
That is the purpose of the Russia operation.
Thanks for confirming that it worked.
That's the fun part of paranoia; you are never wrong.
Post by Anthony Marsh
So you want to dispute what I said about McAdams and claim that I am wrong
in my assessment? But you've never even met McAdams so how would you know?
It's not true that he is Bigfoot. That was just a joke.
You're bizarre. You once had some constructive insight into the JFK
assassination when I first started posting here over fifteen years ago.
Not any longer.
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by c***@gmail.com
Post by Anthony Marsh
Some of the trolls who post here hiding behind ridiculous aliases may
really just be Russian agents whose job is to use social media to sow
discord, distrust, and hatred.
Check under your school bus for Russian agents tonight.
I don't have a school bus any more. I retired early.
I already told you that I had a KGB agent riding on my bus when the
music group came to Boston.
What a rich fantasy life you lead. Maybe there was an FBI agent on the bus
keeping an eye on the KGB agent. Spy versus spy.
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by c***@gmail.com
Post by Anthony Marsh
The fools you see shouting "Lock her up" are not real Americans, they
are actors hired by the Russians to stir up hatred to destroy the US.
Yeah, Putin wanted someone in office who was going to be tougher on Russia
than Hillary. (Chuckle.)
Many people called Hillary just Obama's third term.
Do you see Trump being tough on Russia? He won't implement the sanctions.
But he just allowed the US military to take out T-72 tanks in Syria and
kill an estimated 100 Russians and their paid mercenaries.
Post by Anthony Marsh
The Treasury Department takes the lead on the technical aspect of
sanctions, but implementing punitive measures requires elaborate
coordination with allies, particularly the European Union, to build
diplomatic support and to ensure a unified approach. As a result, the
State Department plays a crucial role in making sanctions effective.
As secretary of state under the Obama administration, Hillary Clinton
created the coordinator for sanctions policy role. Fried said during his
tenure, the office worked hand in glove with Treasury to carry out tasks
such as working with Asian allies to push North Korea sanctions and
identifying individual Russians trying to evade targeted U.S. sanctions.
Nice press release. Dodging sniper fire in Bosnia, almost joining the
Marines...that Hillary is one tough bitch.
How about your hero Trump? How many deferments did he get?
How are those bone spurs now? SHow me the X-rays.
And what branch did you serve in, Anthony? [snicker]
My number wasn't picked luckily, but if I served it would be in a branch
you never heard of.
Never heard of enlisting? You criticize Trump for using a loophole to get
out of serving his country, but you did exactly the same thing. "The
No. I had a real deferment for a real medical condition.
Show us the doctor's report.
Post by Anthony Marsh
Trump got deferments for fake conditions that his rich father paid a
doctor to make up. Again, I repeat, SHOW me the X-rays.
See above.
Steve Barber
2018-02-27 00:54:45 UTC
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Raw Message
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by OHLeeRedux
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by OHLeeRedux
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by c***@gmail.com
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by c***@gmail.com
Post by Anthony Marsh
Bob Mueller made an excellent point in the indictments today which many
people here overlook. Some of the collusion was unwitting. As the KGB
used to say - useful idiots.
Perhaps you are not aware that the term "useful idiots" was a phrase the
Commies/KGB used in referring to Western Leftists who were sympathetic to
their baloney.
I thought I told you before that I am aware of it and the conditions had
flipp 180 degrees now. The Republicans support the Russians and the
Liberals point out that the Russians are attacking us.
Just a few years ago, Romney as the Repub nominee for POTUS called Russia
our greatest geopolitical foe and libs generally laughed at him. Remember
Hillary and the Russia re-set button? Former President Bill Clinton
received a $500,000 speaking fee in Russia around the time the shady
uranium deal Hillary was in the middle of was going down. Coincidence?
Maybe...
Liberals shout that Russia is "attacking" us while they're under FBI
investigation during the Obama years for all sorts of Russian connections.
That's the real story. The Trump/Russia "collusion" story is a
smokescreen, and the liberal press is carrying Obama and Hillary's water.
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by c***@gmail.com
Post by Anthony Marsh
I have met John McAdams and I have talked to John McAdams in person.
I know he is not a Russian. But he has been enticed by the extreme
rightwing rhetoric of the Trump supporters and did not realize that they
are not his fellow Americans but actually are Russian agents taught to
mimic American hate groups and sow confusion.
Your paranoia is palpable.
That is the purpose of the Russia operation.
Thanks for confirming that it worked.
That's the fun part of paranoia; you are never wrong.
Post by Anthony Marsh
So you want to dispute what I said about McAdams and claim that I am wrong
in my assessment? But you've never even met McAdams so how would you know?
It's not true that he is Bigfoot. That was just a joke.
You're bizarre. You once had some constructive insight into the JFK
assassination when I first started posting here over fifteen years ago.
Not any longer.
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by c***@gmail.com
Post by Anthony Marsh
Some of the trolls who post here hiding behind ridiculous aliases may
really just be Russian agents whose job is to use social media to sow
discord, distrust, and hatred.
Check under your school bus for Russian agents tonight.
I don't have a school bus any more. I retired early.
I already told you that I had a KGB agent riding on my bus when the
music group came to Boston.
What a rich fantasy life you lead. Maybe there was an FBI agent on the bus
keeping an eye on the KGB agent. Spy versus spy.
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by c***@gmail.com
Post by Anthony Marsh
The fools you see shouting "Lock her up" are not real Americans, they
are actors hired by the Russians to stir up hatred to destroy the US.
Yeah, Putin wanted someone in office who was going to be tougher on Russia
than Hillary. (Chuckle.)
Many people called Hillary just Obama's third term.
Do you see Trump being tough on Russia? He won't implement the sanctions.
But he just allowed the US military to take out T-72 tanks in Syria and
kill an estimated 100 Russians and their paid mercenaries.
Post by Anthony Marsh
The Treasury Department takes the lead on the technical aspect of
sanctions, but implementing punitive measures requires elaborate
coordination with allies, particularly the European Union, to build
diplomatic support and to ensure a unified approach. As a result, the
State Department plays a crucial role in making sanctions effective.
As secretary of state under the Obama administration, Hillary Clinton
created the coordinator for sanctions policy role. Fried said during his
tenure, the office worked hand in glove with Treasury to carry out tasks
such as working with Asian allies to push North Korea sanctions and
identifying individual Russians trying to evade targeted U.S. sanctions.
Nice press release. Dodging sniper fire in Bosnia, almost joining the
Marines...that Hillary is one tough bitch.
How about your hero Trump? How many deferments did he get?
How are those bone spurs now? SHow me the X-rays.
And what branch did you serve in, Anthony? [snicker]
My number wasn't picked luckily, but if I served it would be in a branch
you never heard of.
Never heard of enlisting? You criticize Trump for using a loophole to get
out of serving his country, but you did exactly the same thing. "The
No. I had a real deferment for a real medical condition.
Trump got deferments for fake conditions that his rich father paid a
doctor to make up. Again, I repeat, SHOW me the X-rays.
Post by OHLeeRedux
didn't pick my number. Whew! Let somebody else's kid go in my place."
And if you had been qualified for some top secret branch of the military,
as you just implied, then why didn't you do that? Bus driving a more
rewarding career?
I was in college at the time and had deferments for the eduction that I
was trying to complete. Trump, nothing.
I was not driving a bus then.
You Trolls think that you can pick up on something and keep hararasssing
other posters about something totally unrelated to the topic.
Anything to defend your hero Trump.
Pot, meet kettle! By the way...where did that college education get you?
Steve Barber
2018-02-27 00:55:29 UTC
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Raw Message
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by OHLeeRedux
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by OHLeeRedux
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by c***@gmail.com
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by c***@gmail.com
Post by Anthony Marsh
Bob Mueller made an excellent point in the indictments today which many
people here overlook. Some of the collusion was unwitting. As the KGB
used to say - useful idiots.
Perhaps you are not aware that the term "useful idiots" was a phrase the
Commies/KGB used in referring to Western Leftists who were sympathetic to
their baloney.
I thought I told you before that I am aware of it and the conditions had
flipp 180 degrees now. The Republicans support the Russians and the
Liberals point out that the Russians are attacking us.
Just a few years ago, Romney as the Repub nominee for POTUS called Russia
our greatest geopolitical foe and libs generally laughed at him. Remember
Hillary and the Russia re-set button? Former President Bill Clinton
received a $500,000 speaking fee in Russia around the time the shady
uranium deal Hillary was in the middle of was going down. Coincidence?
Maybe...
Liberals shout that Russia is "attacking" us while they're under FBI
investigation during the Obama years for all sorts of Russian connections.
That's the real story. The Trump/Russia "collusion" story is a
smokescreen, and the liberal press is carrying Obama and Hillary's water.
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by c***@gmail.com
Post by Anthony Marsh
I have met John McAdams and I have talked to John McAdams in person.
I know he is not a Russian. But he has been enticed by the extreme
rightwing rhetoric of the Trump supporters and did not realize that they
are not his fellow Americans but actually are Russian agents taught to
mimic American hate groups and sow confusion.
Your paranoia is palpable.
That is the purpose of the Russia operation.
Thanks for confirming that it worked.
That's the fun part of paranoia; you are never wrong.
Post by Anthony Marsh
So you want to dispute what I said about McAdams and claim that I am wrong
in my assessment? But you've never even met McAdams so how would you know?
It's not true that he is Bigfoot. That was just a joke.
You're bizarre. You once had some constructive insight into the JFK
assassination when I first started posting here over fifteen years ago.
Not any longer.
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by c***@gmail.com
Post by Anthony Marsh
Some of the trolls who post here hiding behind ridiculous aliases may
really just be Russian agents whose job is to use social media to sow
discord, distrust, and hatred.
Check under your school bus for Russian agents tonight.
I don't have a school bus any more. I retired early.
I already told you that I had a KGB agent riding on my bus when the
music group came to Boston.
What a rich fantasy life you lead. Maybe there was an FBI agent on the bus
keeping an eye on the KGB agent. Spy versus spy.
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by c***@gmail.com
Post by Anthony Marsh
The fools you see shouting "Lock her up" are not real Americans, they
are actors hired by the Russians to stir up hatred to destroy the US.
Yeah, Putin wanted someone in office who was going to be tougher on Russia
than Hillary. (Chuckle.)
Many people called Hillary just Obama's third term.
Do you see Trump being tough on Russia? He won't implement the sanctions.
But he just allowed the US military to take out T-72 tanks in Syria and
kill an estimated 100 Russians and their paid mercenaries.
Post by Anthony Marsh
The Treasury Department takes the lead on the technical aspect of
sanctions, but implementing punitive measures requires elaborate
coordination with allies, particularly the European Union, to build
diplomatic support and to ensure a unified approach. As a result, the
State Department plays a crucial role in making sanctions effective.
As secretary of state under the Obama administration, Hillary Clinton
created the coordinator for sanctions policy role. Fried said during his
tenure, the office worked hand in glove with Treasury to carry out tasks
such as working with Asian allies to push North Korea sanctions and
identifying individual Russians trying to evade targeted U.S. sanctions.
Nice press release. Dodging sniper fire in Bosnia, almost joining the
Marines...that Hillary is one tough bitch.
How about your hero Trump? How many deferments did he get?
How are those bone spurs now? SHow me the X-rays.
And what branch did you serve in, Anthony? [snicker]
My number wasn't picked luckily, but if I served it would be in a branch
you never heard of.
Never heard of enlisting? You criticize Trump for using a loophole to get
out of serving his country, but you did exactly the same thing. "The
No. I had a real deferment for a real medical condition.
Trump got deferments for fake conditions that his rich father paid a
doctor to make up. Again, I repeat, SHOW me the X-rays.
And Billy Boy Clinton's rich grand daddy kept Billy boy out of the
service. But I'm sure you are just fine with that.
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by OHLeeRedux
didn't pick my number. Whew! Let somebody else's kid go in my place."
And if you had been qualified for some top secret branch of the military,
as you just implied, then why didn't you do that? Bus driving a more
rewarding career?
I was in college at the time and had deferments for the eduction that I
was trying to complete. Trump, nothing.
I was not driving a bus then.
You Trolls think that you can pick up on something and keep hararasssing
other posters about something totally unrelated to the topic.
Anything to defend your hero Trump.
Anthony Marsh
2018-02-28 21:27:06 UTC
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Raw Message
Post by Steve Barber
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by OHLeeRedux
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by OHLeeRedux
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by c***@gmail.com
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by c***@gmail.com
Post by Anthony Marsh
Bob Mueller made an excellent point in the indictments today which many
people here overlook. Some of the collusion was unwitting. As the KGB
used to say - useful idiots.
Perhaps you are not aware that the term "useful idiots" was a phrase the
Commies/KGB used in referring to Western Leftists who were sympathetic to
their baloney.
I thought I told you before that I am aware of it and the conditions had
flipp 180 degrees now. The Republicans support the Russians and the
Liberals point out that the Russians are attacking us.
Just a few years ago, Romney as the Repub nominee for POTUS called Russia
our greatest geopolitical foe and libs generally laughed at him. Remember
Hillary and the Russia re-set button? Former President Bill Clinton
received a $500,000 speaking fee in Russia around the time the shady
uranium deal Hillary was in the middle of was going down. Coincidence?
Maybe...
Liberals shout that Russia is "attacking" us while they're under FBI
investigation during the Obama years for all sorts of Russian connections.
That's the real story. The Trump/Russia "collusion" story is a
smokescreen, and the liberal press is carrying Obama and Hillary's water.
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by c***@gmail.com
Post by Anthony Marsh
I have met John McAdams and I have talked to John McAdams in person.
I know he is not a Russian. But he has been enticed by the extreme
rightwing rhetoric of the Trump supporters and did not realize that they
are not his fellow Americans but actually are Russian agents taught to
mimic American hate groups and sow confusion.
Your paranoia is palpable.
That is the purpose of the Russia operation.
Thanks for confirming that it worked.
That's the fun part of paranoia; you are never wrong.
Post by Anthony Marsh
So you want to dispute what I said about McAdams and claim that I am wrong
in my assessment? But you've never even met McAdams so how would you know?
It's not true that he is Bigfoot. That was just a joke.
You're bizarre. You once had some constructive insight into the JFK
assassination when I first started posting here over fifteen years ago.
Not any longer.
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by c***@gmail.com
Post by Anthony Marsh
Some of the trolls who post here hiding behind ridiculous aliases may
really just be Russian agents whose job is to use social media to sow
discord, distrust, and hatred.
Check under your school bus for Russian agents tonight.
I don't have a school bus any more. I retired early.
I already told you that I had a KGB agent riding on my bus when the
music group came to Boston.
What a rich fantasy life you lead. Maybe there was an FBI agent on the bus
keeping an eye on the KGB agent. Spy versus spy.
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by c***@gmail.com
Post by Anthony Marsh
The fools you see shouting "Lock her up" are not real Americans, they
are actors hired by the Russians to stir up hatred to destroy the US.
Yeah, Putin wanted someone in office who was going to be tougher on Russia
than Hillary. (Chuckle.)
Many people called Hillary just Obama's third term.
Do you see Trump being tough on Russia? He won't implement the sanctions.
But he just allowed the US military to take out T-72 tanks in Syria and
kill an estimated 100 Russians and their paid mercenaries.
Post by Anthony Marsh
The Treasury Department takes the lead on the technical aspect of
sanctions, but implementing punitive measures requires elaborate
coordination with allies, particularly the European Union, to build
diplomatic support and to ensure a unified approach. As a result, the
State Department plays a crucial role in making sanctions effective.
As secretary of state under the Obama administration, Hillary Clinton
created the coordinator for sanctions policy role. Fried said during his
tenure, the office worked hand in glove with Treasury to carry out tasks
such as working with Asian allies to push North Korea sanctions and
identifying individual Russians trying to evade targeted U.S. sanctions.
Nice press release. Dodging sniper fire in Bosnia, almost joining the
Marines...that Hillary is one tough bitch.
How about your hero Trump? How many deferments did he get?
How are those bone spurs now? SHow me the X-rays.
And what branch did you serve in, Anthony? [snicker]
My number wasn't picked luckily, but if I served it would be in a branch
you never heard of.
Never heard of enlisting? You criticize Trump for using a loophole to get
out of serving his country, but you did exactly the same thing. "The
No. I had a real deferment for a real medical condition.
Trump got deferments for fake conditions that his rich father paid a
doctor to make up. Again, I repeat, SHOW me the X-rays.
And Billy Boy Clinton's rich grand daddy kept Billy boy out of the
service. But I'm sure you are just fine with that.
Of course not. When you paint yourself into a corner you have to rely on
Trump tricks to attack the other person.
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didn't pick my number. Whew! Let somebody else's kid go in my place."
And if you had been qualified for some top secret branch of the military,
as you just implied, then why didn't you do that? Bus driving a more
rewarding career?
I was in college at the time and had deferments for the eduction that I
was trying to complete. Trump, nothing.
I was not driving a bus then.
You Trolls think that you can pick up on something and keep hararasssing
other posters about something totally unrelated to the topic.
Anything to defend your hero Trump.
c***@gmail.com
2018-02-23 00:19:01 UTC
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Post by Anthony Marsh
Bob Mueller made an excellent point in the indictments today which many
people here overlook. Some of the collusion was unwitting. As the KGB
used to say - useful idiots.
Perhaps you are not aware that the term "useful idiots" was a phrase the
Commies/KGB used in referring to Western Leftists who were sympathetic to
their baloney.
I thought I told you before that I am aware of it and the conditions had
flipp 180 degrees now. The Republicans support the Russians and the
Liberals point out that the Russians are attacking us.
Just a few years ago, Romney as the Repub nominee for POTUS called Russia
our greatest geopolitical foe and libs generally laughed at him. Remember
Hillary and the Russia re-set button? Former President Bill Clinton
received a $500,000 speaking fee in Russia around the time the shady
uranium deal Hillary was in the middle of was going down. Coincidence?
Maybe...
Liberals shout that Russia is "attacking" us while they're under FBI
investigation during the Obama years for all sorts of Russian connections.
That's the real story. The Trump/Russia "collusion" story is a
smokescreen, and the liberal press is carrying Obama and Hillary's water.
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by c***@gmail.com
Post by Anthony Marsh
I have met John McAdams and I have talked to John McAdams in person.
I know he is not a Russian. But he has been enticed by the extreme
rightwing rhetoric of the Trump supporters and did not realize that they
are not his fellow Americans but actually are Russian agents taught to
mimic American hate groups and sow confusion.
Your paranoia is palpable.
That is the purpose of the Russia operation.
Thanks for confirming that it worked.
That's the fun part of paranoia; you are never wrong.
Post by Anthony Marsh
So you want to dispute what I said about McAdams and claim that I am wrong
in my assessment? But you've never even met McAdams so how would you know?
It's not true that he is Bigfoot. That was just a joke.
You're bizarre. You once had some constructive insight into the JFK
assassination when I first started posting here over fifteen years ago.
Not any longer.
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by c***@gmail.com
Post by Anthony Marsh
Some of the trolls who post here hiding behind ridiculous aliases may
really just be Russian agents whose job is to use social media to sow
discord, distrust, and hatred.
Check under your school bus for Russian agents tonight.
I don't have a school bus any more. I retired early.
I already told you that I had a KGB agent riding on my bus when the
music group came to Boston.
What a rich fantasy life you lead. Maybe there was an FBI agent on the bus
keeping an eye on the KGB agent. Spy versus spy.
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by c***@gmail.com
Post by Anthony Marsh
The fools you see shouting "Lock her up" are not real Americans, they
are actors hired by the Russians to stir up hatred to destroy the US.
Yeah, Putin wanted someone in office who was going to be tougher on Russia
than Hillary. (Chuckle.)
Many people called Hillary just Obama's third term.
Do you see Trump being tough on Russia? He won't implement the sanctions.
But he just allowed the US military to take out T-72 tanks in Syria and
kill an estimated 100 Russians and their paid mercenaries.
Post by Anthony Marsh
The Treasury Department takes the lead on the technical aspect of
sanctions, but implementing punitive measures requires elaborate
coordination with allies, particularly the European Union, to build
diplomatic support and to ensure a unified approach. As a result, the
State Department plays a crucial role in making sanctions effective.
As secretary of state under the Obama administration, Hillary Clinton
created the coordinator for sanctions policy role. Fried said during his
tenure, the office worked hand in glove with Treasury to carry out tasks
such as working with Asian allies to push North Korea sanctions and
identifying individual Russians trying to evade targeted U.S. sanctions.
Nice press release. Dodging sniper fire in Bosnia, almost joining the
Marines...that Hillary is one tough bitch.
How about your hero Trump? How many deferments did he get?
How are those bone spurs now? SHow me the X-rays.
If you want to make serving in the military mandatory for being POTUS, go for it. That'll effectively keep almost any Democrat out of the office.
Anthony Marsh
2018-02-24 03:37:18 UTC
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Post by c***@gmail.com
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by c***@gmail.com
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by c***@gmail.com
Post by Anthony Marsh
Bob Mueller made an excellent point in the indictments today which many
people here overlook. Some of the collusion was unwitting. As the KGB
used to say - useful idiots.
Perhaps you are not aware that the term "useful idiots" was a phrase the
Commies/KGB used in referring to Western Leftists who were sympathetic to
their baloney.
I thought I told you before that I am aware of it and the conditions had
flipp 180 degrees now. The Republicans support the Russians and the
Liberals point out that the Russians are attacking us.
Just a few years ago, Romney as the Repub nominee for POTUS called Russia
our greatest geopolitical foe and libs generally laughed at him. Remember
Hillary and the Russia re-set button? Former President Bill Clinton
received a $500,000 speaking fee in Russia around the time the shady
uranium deal Hillary was in the middle of was going down. Coincidence?
Maybe...
Liberals shout that Russia is "attacking" us while they're under FBI
investigation during the Obama years for all sorts of Russian connections.
That's the real story. The Trump/Russia "collusion" story is a
smokescreen, and the liberal press is carrying Obama and Hillary's water.
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by c***@gmail.com
Post by Anthony Marsh
I have met John McAdams and I have talked to John McAdams in person.
I know he is not a Russian. But he has been enticed by the extreme
rightwing rhetoric of the Trump supporters and did not realize that they
are not his fellow Americans but actually are Russian agents taught to
mimic American hate groups and sow confusion.
Your paranoia is palpable.
That is the purpose of the Russia operation.
Thanks for confirming that it worked.
That's the fun part of paranoia; you are never wrong.
Post by Anthony Marsh
So you want to dispute what I said about McAdams and claim that I am wrong
in my assessment? But you've never even met McAdams so how would you know?
It's not true that he is Bigfoot. That was just a joke.
You're bizarre. You once had some constructive insight into the JFK
assassination when I first started posting here over fifteen years ago.
Not any longer.
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by c***@gmail.com
Post by Anthony Marsh
Some of the trolls who post here hiding behind ridiculous aliases may
really just be Russian agents whose job is to use social media to sow
discord, distrust, and hatred.
Check under your school bus for Russian agents tonight.
I don't have a school bus any more. I retired early.
I already told you that I had a KGB agent riding on my bus when the
music group came to Boston.
What a rich fantasy life you lead. Maybe there was an FBI agent on the bus
keeping an eye on the KGB agent. Spy versus spy.
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by c***@gmail.com
Post by Anthony Marsh
The fools you see shouting "Lock her up" are not real Americans, they
are actors hired by the Russians to stir up hatred to destroy the US.
Yeah, Putin wanted someone in office who was going to be tougher on Russia
than Hillary. (Chuckle.)
Many people called Hillary just Obama's third term.
Do you see Trump being tough on Russia? He won't implement the sanctions.
But he just allowed the US military to take out T-72 tanks in Syria and
kill an estimated 100 Russians and their paid mercenaries.
Post by Anthony Marsh
The Treasury Department takes the lead on the technical aspect of
sanctions, but implementing punitive measures requires elaborate
coordination with allies, particularly the European Union, to build
diplomatic support and to ensure a unified approach. As a result, the
State Department plays a crucial role in making sanctions effective.
As secretary of state under the Obama administration, Hillary Clinton
created the coordinator for sanctions policy role. Fried said during his
tenure, the office worked hand in glove with Treasury to carry out tasks
such as working with Asian allies to push North Korea sanctions and
identifying individual Russians trying to evade targeted U.S. sanctions.
Nice press release. Dodging sniper fire in Bosnia, almost joining the
Marines...that Hillary is one tough bitch.
How about your hero Trump? How many deferments did he get?
How are those bone spurs now? SHow me the X-rays.
If you want to make serving in the military mandatory for being POTUS, go for it. That'll effectively keep almost any Democrat out of the office.
False. I never suggested that. This was only about Trump.
Kennedy was rich, but he served.

AGain, SHOW me the bone spurrs or admit that they were fictitious.
donald willis
2018-02-25 02:27:14 UTC
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Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by c***@gmail.com
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by c***@gmail.com
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by c***@gmail.com
Post by Anthony Marsh
Bob Mueller made an excellent point in the indictments today which many
people here overlook. Some of the collusion was unwitting. As the KGB
used to say - useful idiots.
Perhaps you are not aware that the term "useful idiots" was a phrase the
Commies/KGB used in referring to Western Leftists who were sympathetic to
their baloney.
I thought I told you before that I am aware of it and the conditions had
flipp 180 degrees now. The Republicans support the Russians and the
Liberals point out that the Russians are attacking us.
Just a few years ago, Romney as the Repub nominee for POTUS called Russia
our greatest geopolitical foe and libs generally laughed at him. Remember
Hillary and the Russia re-set button? Former President Bill Clinton
received a $500,000 speaking fee in Russia around the time the shady
uranium deal Hillary was in the middle of was going down. Coincidence?
Maybe...
Liberals shout that Russia is "attacking" us while they're under FBI
investigation during the Obama years for all sorts of Russian connections.
That's the real story. The Trump/Russia "collusion" story is a
smokescreen, and the liberal press is carrying Obama and Hillary's water.
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by c***@gmail.com
Post by Anthony Marsh
I have met John McAdams and I have talked to John McAdams in person.
I know he is not a Russian. But he has been enticed by the extreme
rightwing rhetoric of the Trump supporters and did not realize that they
are not his fellow Americans but actually are Russian agents taught to
mimic American hate groups and sow confusion.
Your paranoia is palpable.
That is the purpose of the Russia operation.
Thanks for confirming that it worked.
That's the fun part of paranoia; you are never wrong.
Post by Anthony Marsh
So you want to dispute what I said about McAdams and claim that I am wrong
in my assessment? But you've never even met McAdams so how would you know?
It's not true that he is Bigfoot. That was just a joke.
You're bizarre. You once had some constructive insight into the JFK
assassination when I first started posting here over fifteen years ago.
Not any longer.
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by c***@gmail.com
Post by Anthony Marsh
Some of the trolls who post here hiding behind ridiculous aliases may
really just be Russian agents whose job is to use social media to sow
discord, distrust, and hatred.
Check under your school bus for Russian agents tonight.
I don't have a school bus any more. I retired early.
I already told you that I had a KGB agent riding on my bus when the
music group came to Boston.
What a rich fantasy life you lead. Maybe there was an FBI agent on the bus
keeping an eye on the KGB agent. Spy versus spy.
Post by Anthony Marsh
Post by c***@gmail.com
Post by Anthony Marsh
The fools you see shouting "Lock her up" are not real Americans, they
are actors hired by the Russians to stir up hatred to destroy the US.
Yeah, Putin wanted someone in office who was going to be tougher on Russia
than Hillary. (Chuckle.)
Many people called Hillary just Obama's third term.
Do you see Trump being tough on Russia? He won't implement the sanctions.
But he just allowed the US military to take out T-72 tanks in Syria and
kill an estimated 100 Russians and their paid mercenaries.
Post by Anthony Marsh
The Treasury Department takes the lead on the technical aspect of
sanctions, but implementing punitive measures requires elaborate
coordination with allies, particularly the European Union, to build
diplomatic support and to ensure a unified approach. As a result, the
State Department plays a crucial role in making sanctions effective.
As secretary of state under the Obama administration, Hillary Clinton
created the coordinator for sanctions policy role. Fried said during his
tenure, the office worked hand in glove with Treasury to carry out tasks
such as working with Asian allies to push North Korea sanctions and
identifying individual Russians trying to evade targeted U.S. sanctions.
Nice press release. Dodging sniper fire in Bosnia, almost joining the
Marines...that Hillary is one tough bitch.
How about your hero Trump? How many deferments did he get?
How are those bone spurs now? SHow me the X-rays.
If you want to make serving in the military mandatory for being POTUS, go for it. That'll effectively keep almost any Democrat out of the office.
False. I never suggested that. This was only about Trump.
Kennedy was rich, but he served.
AGain, SHOW me the bone spurrs or admit that they were fictitious.
Yes, that's funny, in a way. Trump is calling the security guy at the
school a coward, when that word could be turned back on him--Donald "Bone
Spurs" Trump....
BOZ
2018-02-19 01:10:03 UTC
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Post by Anthony Marsh
Bob Mueller made an excellent point in the indictments today which many
people here overlook. Some of the collusion was unwitting. As the KGB
used to say - useful idiots.
I have met John McAdams and I have talked to John McAdams in person.
I know he is not a Russian. But he has been enticed by the extreme
rightwing rhetoric of the Trump supporters and did not realize that they
are not his fellow Americans but actually are Russian agents taught to
mimic American hate groups and sow confusion.
Some of the trolls who post here hiding behind ridiculous aliases may
really just be Russian agents whose job is to use social media to sow
discord, distrust, and hatred.
The fools you see shouting "Lock her up" are not real Americans, they
are actors hired by the Russians to stir up hatred to destroy the US.
YOU WILLNEVER INDICT US MARSH.
Anthony Marsh
2018-02-19 21:21:39 UTC
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Post by Anthony Marsh
Bob Mueller made an excellent point in the indictments today which many
people here overlook. Some of the collusion was unwitting. As the KGB
used to say - useful idiots.
I have met John McAdams and I have talked to John McAdams in person.
I know he is not a Russian. But he has been enticed by the extreme
rightwing rhetoric of the Trump supporters and did not realize that they
are not his fellow Americans but actually are Russian agents taught to
mimic American hate groups and sow confusion.
Some of the trolls who post here hiding behind ridiculous aliases may
really just be Russian agents whose job is to use social media to sow
discord, distrust, and hatred.
The fools you see shouting "Lock her up" are not real Americans, they
are actors hired by the Russians to stir up hatred to destroy the US.
YOU WILLNEVER INDICT US MARSH.
I don't want to indict anyone.
Sanctions, baby, sanctions. Dry up your money.
d***@gmail.com
2018-02-26 22:44:35 UTC
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Post by Anthony Marsh
Some of the trolls who post here hiding behind ridiculous aliases may
really just be Russian agents whose job is to use social media to sow
discord, distrust, and hatred.
The fools you see shouting "Lock her up" are not real Americans, they
are actors hired by the Russians to stir up hatred to destroy the US.
You've probably taken this a step too far. I think the "Lock her up!"
chanters are mostly legitimate Trump supporters. We heard that chant all
across America during the campaign. These weren't Russians. These were
regular Americans who may have been influenced by memes on the internet
(produced by the Russian troll farm) to encourage this mindset.

With regards to the identities of people who post in this forum - it's
doubtful that anybody is a Russian. Russia probably doesn't have much of
an interest in the Kennedy assassination to any significant degree any
longer. I'm sure they embrace the notion that the CIA was behind it (as
Putin suggested not too long ago), but the extent that they are trolling
this forum is kind of silly.

Back in 1975, Penn Jones received an anonymous and mysterious note that
was supposedly written by Oswald to "Mr. Hunt". It wasn't until 1999 we
discovered that this was planted by Russian disinformation operatives to
encourage the CIA-Did-It Theory.

David Emerling
Memphis, TN
Anthony Marsh
2018-02-27 16:05:58 UTC
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Post by Anthony Marsh
Some of the trolls who post here hiding behind ridiculous aliases may
really just be Russian agents whose job is to use social media to sow
discord, distrust, and hatred.
The fools you see shouting "Lock her up" are not real Americans, they
are actors hired by the Russians to stir up hatred to destroy the US.
You've probably taken this a step too far. I think the "Lock her up!"
chanters are mostly legitimate Trump supporters. We heard that chant all
across America during the campaign. These weren't Russians. These were
regular Americans who may have been influenced by memes on the internet
(produced by the Russian troll farm) to encourage this mindset.
With regards to the identities of people who post in this forum - it's
doubtful that anybody is a Russian. Russia probably doesn't have much of
an interest in the Kennedy assassination to any significant degree any
longer. I'm sure they embrace the notion that the CIA was behind it (as
Putin suggested not too long ago), but the extent that they are trolling
this forum is kind of silly.
Back in 1975, Penn Jones received an anonymous and mysterious note that
was supposedly written by Oswald to "Mr. Hunt". It wasn't until 1999 we
discovered that this was planted by Russian disinformation operatives to
encourage the CIA-Did-It Theory.
David Emerling
Memphis, TN
Which I think was a mistake by the KGB section in charge of the hoaxes.
If they meant E. Howard Hunt of the CIA, he would never have used his
real name to Oswald.
It should have been a Mr. Knight letter.
Or it could have been a hoax by a former employee of H.L. Hunt to get
revenge for being fired.
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