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I want to know whether Dr. Robert Grossman was really there or not.

He was on NBC's 50th anniversary special in 2013 and said he picked up
JFK's head and closely examined the wound. There was no large hole in the
back of the head; the wound was on the side.

But no doctor, to my knowledge, ever acknowledged he was there that day.
The room was small, crowded, doctors bumped into each other. No one saw
him?

It's like he came out of nowhere.

Anthony Marsh

2015-06-18 04:03:03 UTC

I want to know whether Dr. Robert Grossman was really there or not.
He was on NBC's 50th anniversary special in 2013 and said he picked up
JFK's head and closely examined the wound. There was no large hole in the
back of the head; the wound was on the side.
But no doctor, to my knowledge, ever acknowledged he was there that day.
The room was small, crowded, doctors bumped into each other. No one saw
him?

So you claim. Wihout doing ANY research. Fun to guess, isn't it?

Post by s***@yahoo.com
It's like he came out of nowhere.

Just like Dr. Crenshaw. 2 seconds checking the WC volumes would have
saved them thousands of dollars in the lawsuit.
But I guess you guys never learn.
BTW, no one picked up JFK's head. You misuse words and misquote
witnesses to push your crazy theories.
There was no large hole in the back of the head. There was not even a
tiny bullet hole.

claviger

2015-06-18 20:56:47 UTC

Post by Anthony Marsh
Just like Dr. Crenshaw. 2 seconds checking the WC volumes would have
saved them thousands of dollars in the lawsuit.
But I guess you guys never learn.
BTW, no one picked up JFK's head. You misuse words and misquote
witnesses to push your crazy theories.
There was no large hole in the back of the head. There was not even a
tiny bullet hole.

Audrey Bell claims Dr Perry handled the head and turned it to show her the
large wound in back of the head.

Anthony Marsh

2015-06-20 18:04:53 UTC

Audrey Bell claims Dr Perry handled the head and turned it to show her the
large wound in back of the head.

TURNED it, did not pick it up.

mainframetech

2015-06-18 16:28:14 UTC

I want to know whether Dr. Robert Grossman was really there or not.
He was on NBC's 50th anniversary special in 2013 and said he picked up
JFK's head and closely examined the wound. There was no large hole in the
back of the head; the wound was on the side.
But no doctor, to my knowledge, ever acknowledged he was there that day.
The room was small, crowded, doctors bumped into each other. No one saw
him?
It's like he came out of nowhere.

You're right. Grossman decided to make some fame and fortune by saying
he was there, when he was (at best) just at the door for a moment with
Clark. Clark, his mentor and boss never mentioned him when he was in
testimony.

Grossman's description was what the head wound looked like after Humes
and Boswell had gotten at it in Bethesda at 6:35pm BEFORE the autopsy.
During the autopsy the greater damage was apparent on the head, and that's
what Grossman was describing.

Chris

claviger

2015-06-19 00:19:38 UTC

I want to know whether Dr. Robert Grossman was really there or not.
He was on NBC's 50th anniversary special in 2013 and said he picked up
JFK's head and closely examined the wound. There was no large hole in the
back of the head; the wound was on the side.
But no doctor, to my knowledge, ever acknowledged he was there that day.
The room was small, crowded, doctors bumped into each other. No one saw
him?
It's like he came out of nowhere.

Two doctors saw Dr Grossman in the Parkland Emergency Room. Dr Salyer was
the first to mention him being there in WC testimony. Dr Crenshaw
includes Dr Grossman in his published list of 28 doctors seen inside TR1.

Robert G Grossman MD
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Dr Crenshaw List of Doctors in TR1.
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Salyer, Kenneth Everett WC Testimony Doctor, Parkland Hospital.
The testimony of Dr. Kenneth Everett Salyer was taken at 6:15 p.m., on March 25, 1964, at Parkland Memorial Hospital, Dallas, Tex., by Mr. Arlen Specter, assistant counsel of the President's Commission.
http://jfkassassination.net/russ/testimony/salyer.htm

s***@yahoo.com

2015-06-21 00:42:01 UTC

I want to know whether Dr. Robert Grossman was really there or not.
He was on NBC's 50th anniversary special in 2013 and said he picked up
JFK's head and closely examined the wound. There was no large hole in the
back of the head; the wound was on the side.
But no doctor, to my knowledge, ever acknowledged he was there that day.
The room was small, crowded, doctors bumped into each other. No one saw
him?
It's like he came out of nowhere.

Two doctors saw Dr Grossman in the Parkland Emergency Room. Dr Salyer was
the first to mention him being there in WC testimony. Dr Crenshaw
includes Dr Grossman in his published list of 28 doctors seen inside TR1.
Robert G Grossman MD
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Dr Crenshaw List of Doctors in TR1.
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Salyer, Kenneth Everett WC Testimony Doctor, Parkland Hospital.
The testimony of Dr. Kenneth Everett Salyer was taken at 6:15 p.m., on March 25, 1964, at Parkland Memorial Hospital, Dallas, Tex., by Mr. Arlen Specter, assistant counsel of the President's Commission.
http://jfkassassination.net/russ/testimony/salyer.htm

Salyer testified he's not sure whether Grossman was there or not.

Mr. SPECTER - Did you have an opportunity to observe his [JFK's] throat?
Dr. SALYER - No; I really did not. I think there were a lot of people--a
lot of doctors more closely around him. I might mention also, I think just
right after I came in the room Dr. Clark and Dr. Grossman also arrived.
Mr. SPECTER - Doctor who?
Dr. SALYER - Dr. Grossman, just briefly. He's a neurosurgeon also.
Mr. SPECTER - What is his name?
Dr. SALYER - Dr. Grossman--Bob Grossman He was just there, I think, briefly.
Mr. SPECTER - How long was he there?
Dr. SALYER - I couldn't say--I'm not sure he came in the room. I know they
were together--I cannot say that for sure.

Contrast that with what Grossman said he did. Vast differences.

Carrico, Perry, McClelland never mention Grossman anywhere that I can see.

By "there" I should have been clearer. Not briefly there but "there"
observing the President in the details that he says he did.

If Grossman's account is true, he wasn't just "there", he was a major
figure working on JFK. A significant witness.

claviger

2015-06-22 01:47:14 UTC

I want to know whether Dr. Robert Grossman was really there or not.
He was on NBC's 50th anniversary special in 2013 and said he picked up
JFK's head and closely examined the wound. There was no large hole in the
back of the head; the wound was on the side.
But no doctor, to my knowledge, ever acknowledged he was there that day.
The room was small, crowded, doctors bumped into each other. No one saw
him?
It's like he came out of nowhere.

Two doctors saw Dr Grossman in the Parkland Emergency Room. Dr Salyer was
the first to mention him being there in WC testimony. Dr Crenshaw
includes Dr Grossman in his published list of 28 doctors seen inside TR1.
Robert G Grossman MD
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Salyer, Kenneth Everett WC Testimony Doctor, Parkland Hospital.
The testimony of Dr. Kenneth Everett Salyer was taken at 6:15 p.m., on March 25, 1964, at Parkland Memorial Hospital, Dallas, Tex., by Mr. Arlen Specter, assistant counsel of the President's Commission.
http://jfkassassination.net/russ/testimony/salyer.htm

Salyer testified he's not sure whether Grossman was there or not.
Mr. SPECTER - Did you have an opportunity to observe his [JFK's] throat?
Dr. SALYER - No; I really did not. I think there were a lot of people--a
lot of doctors more closely around him. I might mention also, I think just
right after I came in the room Dr. Clark and Dr. Grossman also arrived.
Mr. SPECTER - Doctor who?
Dr. SALYER - Dr. Grossman, just briefly. He's a neurosurgeon also.
Mr. SPECTER - What is his name?
Dr. SALYER - Dr. Grossman--Bob Grossman He was just there, I think, briefly.
Mr. SPECTER - How long was he there?
Dr. SALYER - I couldn't say--I'm not sure he came in the room. I know they
were together--I cannot say that for sure.
Contrast that with what Grossman said he did. Vast differences.
Carrico, Perry, McClelland never mention Grossman anywhere that I can see.
By "there" I should have been clearer. Not briefly there but "there"
observing the President in the details that he says he did.
If Grossman's account is true, he wasn't just "there", he was a major
figure working on JFK. A significant witness.

So you are calling Dr Grossman a liar. Is Dr Crenshaw a liar too?

s***@yahoo.com

2015-06-23 14:23:13 UTC

I want to know whether Dr. Robert Grossman was really there or not.
He was on NBC's 50th anniversary special in 2013 and said he picked up
JFK's head and closely examined the wound. There was no large hole in the
back of the head; the wound was on the side.
But no doctor, to my knowledge, ever acknowledged he was there that day.
The room was small, crowded, doctors bumped into each other. No one saw
him?
It's like he came out of nowhere.

Two doctors saw Dr Grossman in the Parkland Emergency Room. Dr Salyer was
the first to mention him being there in WC testimony. Dr Crenshaw
includes Dr Grossman in his published list of 28 doctors seen inside TR1.
Robert G Grossman MD
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Dr Crenshaw List of Doctors in TR1.
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Salyer, Kenneth Everett WC Testimony Doctor, Parkland Hospital.
The testimony of Dr. Kenneth Everett Salyer was taken at 6:15 p.m., on March 25, 1964, at Parkland Memorial Hospital, Dallas, Tex., by Mr. Arlen Specter, assistant counsel of the President's Commission.
http://jfkassassination.net/russ/testimony/salyer.htm

Salyer testified he's not sure whether Grossman was there or not.
Mr. SPECTER - Did you have an opportunity to observe his [JFK's] throat?
Dr. SALYER - No; I really did not. I think there were a lot of people--a
lot of doctors more closely around him. I might mention also, I think just
right after I came in the room Dr. Clark and Dr. Grossman also arrived.
Mr. SPECTER - Doctor who?
Dr. SALYER - Dr. Grossman, just briefly. He's a neurosurgeon also.
Mr. SPECTER - What is his name?
Dr. SALYER - Dr. Grossman--Bob Grossman He was just there, I think, briefly.
Mr. SPECTER - How long was he there?
Dr. SALYER - I couldn't say--I'm not sure he came in the room. I know they
were together--I cannot say that for sure.
Contrast that with what Grossman said he did. Vast differences.
Carrico, Perry, McClelland never mention Grossman anywhere that I can see.
By "there" I should have been clearer. Not briefly there but "there"
observing the President in the details that he says he did.
If Grossman's account is true, he wasn't just "there", he was a major
figure working on JFK. A significant witness.

So you are calling Dr Grossman a liar. Is Dr Crenshaw a liar too?

I would say that the evidence indicates he was not involved in the manner
he says, decades later, that he was.

Do you have evidence otherwise? Read what he says he did.

He's remembering things that the evidence doesn't support. A lot of
witnesses in this matter, years and decades later, have said things that
we know aren't true.

I am placing him in that basket and dismissing his claims about examining
JFK's head wound.

As to Crenshaw. Probably like Grossman what he believes what he says even
when it's not true.

claviger

2015-06-24 18:47:28 UTC