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2004-01-08 21:46:51 UTC
Below is my partial interview with retired Officer Joe Cody. I
interviewed Joe Cody and J.R. Leavelle the same morning inside my
DaysInn Motel room on Beltline Rd. June 26,1989.
Bob-I am in Dallas, Texas with Joe Cody. Mr. Cody, you are now retired
from the Dallas Police Dept., is that correct.
Cody- Yes, that's correct.
Bob- How long were you employed there?
Cody- 29=BD years.
Bob- Where were you assigned, which division?
Cody- I worked in several divisions, mainly traffic.
Bob- From our previous phone conversation you stated that you purchased
the pistol for Jack Ruby, the pistol that he shot Lee Harvey Oswald
with. Is that correct and would you care to comment on that?
Cody- Well, I knew Jack Ruby quite well. He was an iceskater and I was
an iceskater. Ruby called me one day and he was having problems with his
money that he collected from his club and I went down there and he ask
me about a safe and I told him a safe was going to cost, you know, a
thousand or two thousand dollars and so forth. He just wanted to buy a
pistol and I met him at Ray Brantleys Hardware,and I bought the pistol.
It cost $62.50. I saved him the tax on the pistol by buying it.
Bob- Would you happen to recall the exact date that you purchsed the
pistol?
Cody- Ugh, no I don't.
Bob- Mr. Cody, did you have any involvement in the interrogation of
Oswald and did you happen to have an opportunity to observe his actions
and moods?
Cody- Well, yes I did. Jerry Hill, Nick McDonald, and Paul Bentley
brought him up to the Office. At that time we didn't know that Oswald
was involved in killing the President, but we did know that he was
involved in killing an Officer out there. And they brought him up to
Burglary & Theft and I talked to him a little while. I ask him his name
and he told me and I ask where he worked and he said, the Texas School
Book Depository, and that's when the light dawned. I went across and
told Captain Fritz that we had him in there, in the interrogation room
over there. I think Jim leavelle talked to him later. (Leavelle sitting
on the bed shakes his head, yes) That's how we knew that Oswald was
involved in the shooting of the President.
Bob- You told me on the telephone that you visited Jack Ruby in jail, is
that correct?
Do you recall any of the conversation that you had with Ruby?
Cody- Yes, I do. He had three visitors on the visiting list and I
believe, that was, Dallas' Wes Weiss, D.L. Blankenship, and myself. I
went up and seen him. It seems like Ruby, for all these years had set in
his nightclub and the Officers would set there and say, ya know, we put
so and so in jail and he got out in 20 minutes. Ruby told me the reason
he shot, they weren't going to do anything with that boy. He just shot
him.
Bob- What kind of a man was Jack Ruby, and how would you size him up as
a man?
Cody- Well, he was a short guy, he was Jewish. He had an extreme ego. He
was just a peculiar man.
Bob- What's you personal opinion of the controversy of a conspiracy
involving Oswald and Ruby?
Cody- I think theres no, no truth to that whatsoever. Now, what Lee
Harvey Oswald did, if he had a conspiracy with somebody, I don't know if
he did or if he didn't. As far as him being in cahoots with with Jack
Ruby, no way, no way.
Bob- Did you appear before the warren Commission?
Cody- No. I did not.
Bob- Do you find that a bit peculiar or curious?
Cody- Well, no. I've been talked to by, I believe one of the
Investigators of the Warren Commission, and a black Police Sergeant out
of New York talked to me in great length, but no, I don't think it was
unusual.
(Leavelle interupts and states, There was a lot of Officers did some
work on that case, but was never called before the Warren Commission.)
interviewed Joe Cody and J.R. Leavelle the same morning inside my
DaysInn Motel room on Beltline Rd. June 26,1989.
Bob-I am in Dallas, Texas with Joe Cody. Mr. Cody, you are now retired
from the Dallas Police Dept., is that correct.
Cody- Yes, that's correct.
Bob- How long were you employed there?
Cody- 29=BD years.
Bob- Where were you assigned, which division?
Cody- I worked in several divisions, mainly traffic.
Bob- From our previous phone conversation you stated that you purchased
the pistol for Jack Ruby, the pistol that he shot Lee Harvey Oswald
with. Is that correct and would you care to comment on that?
Cody- Well, I knew Jack Ruby quite well. He was an iceskater and I was
an iceskater. Ruby called me one day and he was having problems with his
money that he collected from his club and I went down there and he ask
me about a safe and I told him a safe was going to cost, you know, a
thousand or two thousand dollars and so forth. He just wanted to buy a
pistol and I met him at Ray Brantleys Hardware,and I bought the pistol.
It cost $62.50. I saved him the tax on the pistol by buying it.
Bob- Would you happen to recall the exact date that you purchsed the
pistol?
Cody- Ugh, no I don't.
Bob- Mr. Cody, did you have any involvement in the interrogation of
Oswald and did you happen to have an opportunity to observe his actions
and moods?
Cody- Well, yes I did. Jerry Hill, Nick McDonald, and Paul Bentley
brought him up to the Office. At that time we didn't know that Oswald
was involved in killing the President, but we did know that he was
involved in killing an Officer out there. And they brought him up to
Burglary & Theft and I talked to him a little while. I ask him his name
and he told me and I ask where he worked and he said, the Texas School
Book Depository, and that's when the light dawned. I went across and
told Captain Fritz that we had him in there, in the interrogation room
over there. I think Jim leavelle talked to him later. (Leavelle sitting
on the bed shakes his head, yes) That's how we knew that Oswald was
involved in the shooting of the President.
Bob- You told me on the telephone that you visited Jack Ruby in jail, is
that correct?
Do you recall any of the conversation that you had with Ruby?
Cody- Yes, I do. He had three visitors on the visiting list and I
believe, that was, Dallas' Wes Weiss, D.L. Blankenship, and myself. I
went up and seen him. It seems like Ruby, for all these years had set in
his nightclub and the Officers would set there and say, ya know, we put
so and so in jail and he got out in 20 minutes. Ruby told me the reason
he shot, they weren't going to do anything with that boy. He just shot
him.
Bob- What kind of a man was Jack Ruby, and how would you size him up as
a man?
Cody- Well, he was a short guy, he was Jewish. He had an extreme ego. He
was just a peculiar man.
Bob- What's you personal opinion of the controversy of a conspiracy
involving Oswald and Ruby?
Cody- I think theres no, no truth to that whatsoever. Now, what Lee
Harvey Oswald did, if he had a conspiracy with somebody, I don't know if
he did or if he didn't. As far as him being in cahoots with with Jack
Ruby, no way, no way.
Bob- Did you appear before the warren Commission?
Cody- No. I did not.
Bob- Do you find that a bit peculiar or curious?
Cody- Well, no. I've been talked to by, I believe one of the
Investigators of the Warren Commission, and a black Police Sergeant out
of New York talked to me in great length, but no, I don't think it was
unusual.
(Leavelle interupts and states, There was a lot of Officers did some
work on that case, but was never called before the Warren Commission.)