Post by donald willis
Don't look now, but Roy Milton Jones' 1964 FBI interview put Oswald right
back on the bus to Oak Cliff, and exoneration there
One would think that between the authors of the Warren Report and our
modern-day LN researchers, SOMEONE would have done their due diligence and
long ago eliminated Roy Milton Jones as a possibility for the "man" that
bus driver Cecil McWatters picked up "on Elm around Houston". Yet, the
Commission's Norman Redlich went for Jones hook line & sinker because
Jones said that "he had exchanged words with a woman passenger" (WR p159),
not that unusual an occurrence on a bus, when you think of it.
Quick! What's the most memorable thing that McWatters said about the
"man" in his affidavit? Yes, that "he had told me the president was shot
in the temple". First, it's highly unlikely that someone who had just
"attended the usual morning session of classes" at his high school would,
circa 12:45pm, have information re the President's wounds. Secondly,
Jones himself "advised he could not recall any conversation between the
bus driver and himself or any other person on the bus about the President
being shot in the temple He said he did not hear any person make this
remark on the bus." (FBI report 4/3/64/CE 2641)
Jones was not the man on McWatters' bus. And yet Jones does seem to have
been on a Dallas bus that day. "Jones estimated that there were about
fifteen people on the bus at this time and two police officers boarded the
bus and checked each passenger to see if any were carrying firearms....
Jones estimated the bus was held up by the police offices for about one
hour and, after they were permitted to resume, they crossed the Marsalis
Bridge...." (FBI report)
Scour McWatters' lengthy Commission testimony, but you will find NO
reference to a one-hour delay caused by a police inspection on his bus.
Certainly, Redlich must have read the passages in Jones' interview re the
President's head wound and the boarding by the police. It would seem,
then, that the highly selective Mr. Redlich simply ignored same, perhaps
because they did not fit his agenda. Had he been just a mite more
scrupulous, or at least thorough, he could have categorically eliminated
Jones as a candidate for the role of McWatters' odd passenger, whom
McWatters positively identified, in a lineup, as Oswald (With Malice,
p458). And, according to Joseph Backes, in his article "Oswald and
McWatters' Bus", if it was Oswald on the bus, he would have gotten to the
Marsalis area, near his rooming house, about... 1:20pm.
Thank you, Mr. Jones.
Time for LNers to locate another Jones, though it may be too late....
Roy Milton Jones, a young man still in high school and working part time,
was indeed one of the people on McWatters' bus. This, of course was not
Oswald's usual bus, which was the 22-BECKLEY bus that dropped Oswald off
almost in front of his rooming house four days a week, Mon, Tues, Wed,
Thurs after work (it had a stop on Beckley yards from the rooming house),
and picked him up there, also, on Tues, Wed, Thurs, and Friday mornings to
go to the TSBD (the bus had a stop on Houston and Elm, right at the
Oswald normally rode the 22-Beckley eight times a week but had never
gotten on McWatters' 30-Marsalis bus until Nov. 22.
Jones, however, LIVED NEAR THE 30-MARSALIS BUS WESTERN END OF THE LINE
(about 7 blocks away from Oswald's rooming house, west of Dealey Plaza, in
Oak Cliff). Jones took McWatters' bus several times a week. Including Nov.
22, although it pains CTs to admit it. And on Nov. 22 he wrote the bus as
usual to Marsalis in Oak Cliff, and got off there.
McWatters had never given Jones a transfer slip because Jones never needed
one, living at the Oak Cliff west end of the line, as he did. McWatters
didn't give Jones a transfer slip on Nov. 22, either. He DID give one to
Oswald, who was not on his usual bus, and got off it after only two blocks
(thereby missing the police bus search which happened later), and asked
for a transfer slip, perhaps hoping he could us it if he ran across his
usual 22-Beckley bus (thus not wasting his 23 cent fare).
When he asked for the transfer, Oswald was probably intending to get on
the right bus, his usual comfortable 8 times a week bus. But he couldn't
find it. So he took a cab, costing him a buck. We know how panicked he was
because he left a nickel tip on a 95 cent fare (that wasn't usual Oswald).
I speculate it was the first cab ride of Oswald's life. (No, he didn't go
to Parkland to see his newborn daughter-- too expensive).
Though Jones had ridden with McWatters before, McWatters didn't really
notice him until after Oswald had been captured with a 22 Nov. McWatters
bus transfer, causing McWatters to be questioned later in the day about
the man who got it, YET Jones-the-teenager (who McWatters at first thought
got the transfer) was still riding on McWatters' bus the next week.
McWatters had at first mixed the two younger men up. He bothered to find
out then who Jones was, where he lived, and so on, and told the Commission
who he was, and about his mistake. Simple enough. The man who got his
transfer was *another* young man, not Jones. Simple.
Now, the transfer in Oswald's pocket absolutely puts him on McWatters
40-Marsalis bus Nov. 22 sometimes just before 1 PM (the pre-cut transfer
time) on Nov. 22 and nowhere else on Earth. McWatters said it was only one
of two transfers he gave out that day (the other was to a woman), and that
the only transfer he gave out to a man who boarded his bus by beating on
the door (not at a bus stop) about 12:40 and only rode a couple of blocks
going west before getting off the slow bus and asking for his transfer.
For many reasons, that could not have been Jones, the young man who
discussed where the president had been shot. It had to have been Oswald,
as he had the transfer, which was dated that day, and certainly was from
McWatters. And those facts certainly mean he didn't take McWatters bus all
the to Marsalis in Oak Cliff. Had he done so, he'd have had no reason to
ask for a bus transfer (he would have been 7 blocks from the Beckley
rooming house), and McWatters (as I understand the rules here) would have
had no reason to to give him one.
Instead, Oswald took a cab. He told his questioners he took a cab. Why
not? A cabbie remembered picking up a man of his description where
McWatters said the transfer-man (not Jones) got OFF the bus, and dropped
that fare in Oak Cliff about two blocks from Oswald's rooming house. And
the time was in the 15 minutes before 1 O'Clock. The time Roberts said
Oswald came in, although a five minutes earlier (cab ride eight minutes)
would have worked just as well.